True Born and Bred White Aussies Speak Out

Searched around for a while. Couldn’t find any policy documents relating to giving priority treatment to non-whites.

So I’m calling ‘bullshit’ on Amanda Dawes.

Katie IS racist because she negatively generalises and stereotypes. It’s not hard to spot.

*shudder*

40 thoughts on “True Born and Bred White Aussies Speak Out

  1. end of the line? Wouldnt be because we tend to have less chronic health issues due to being more priviledged/treated better/not overcomng generations of abuse etc … the ignorance of these people is overwhelming.

  2. Duh! Always wait in line!
    What about when your at any queue and then you push in front of everyone else because you are “true born and bred white”, I wouldnt be to happy.

    Get private insurance.

  3. True born and bred white Aussie?

    You mean, inbred? (sorry, that’s the first thought that came to mind with her stupid post) 😉

    If only she knew how lucky she is to live in a country that still cares about it’s people and has a public health system!

    And whilst the public system is not perfect, I can assure you that private hasn’t been much better on my end.

  4. God forbid that the people that actually need the care are assessed on a needs basis and thus get treated in the correct order! lets change it so the whites go first!

    (for any fools wanting to quote me please make sure you get the sarcastic tone while mocking the foolishness of those that do not understand the concept of triage)

  5. As if you’d find a *policy* document that explicitly states “Native-born White Australians can wait, wait, wait and then wait some more”.

    Think outside your little box for a minute TAB.
    Who is more likely to scream “discrimination” and file a lawsuit if they don’t get treatment right away?

    Don’t tell me hospitals and doctors don’t consider the legal liabilities of they dare upset a minority patient in any way.

    • “Who is more likely to scream “discrimination” and file a lawsuit if they don’t get treatment right away?”

      Irony. This very post is an example of a white person screaming ‘discrimination’…

      • I thought that everyone had to wait to access the public hospital system regardless of the colour of their skin or where they were born. The public system treat people as if they are just a number anyway.

        As for Schlockadelic’s assertion that doctors and hospitals consider the legal liabilities of upsetting “minority” patients, this is a joke isn’t it? Do you have any proof of this or are you just pulling something from your arse? I work with what you would call “minority” patients and have had to wait with them in a doctors surgery on many occasions for up to 90 minutes after their appointment time to see a doctor. No special treatment there. I have also seen them wait a long time to be admitted to a public hospital for surgery. Again no special treatment. So where the hell do you get this crap from. Obviously not the real world!

      • People do not get served first based on their race at public hospitals.
        It is based on criticalness…
        but call me a racist for these specific points about the aboriginal people I see every day.
        (This is a generalisation and is not aimed at all aboriginal people, as I know of many aboriginal people that are not at all like this and are embarrassed by the ones like this in their community.)
        Our hospitals here in the territory, where majority of Aboriginal Australians live are full…
        People have to be treated in hallways. Why?
        well it is a well known FACT that majority of Aboriginal people that take themselves to hospitals here with so called illnesses are not even sick.. They are there to get themselves a nice bed a feed for the night and a roof over their head… NOT A LIE!! Ask a few nurses from the territory… question is why would they do this? because they are under privileged/treated like shit/and are overcoming generations of abuse etc… Yeah BULL SHIT!! That whole spiel is just a poor bugger me excuse… that pretty much allows the aboriginal people of this day and age to rob hard working Australian’s White or Black of their hard earned dollars.
        They are not under privileged… They choose to live in underprivileged conditions.
        “Have a read up on the amount of money that an aboriginal person is given through the governments indigenous Australian payout schemes.” – It’s a fuck tonne more then I earn a year I’ll tell you that much.
        And do you know what they blow this money on??
        Piss, Smokes, Drugs, and cars that are destroyed within a week. Amongst other wasteful things.
        And then when there broke and have spent and wasted all our hard earned money. They are out on the streets humbugging us for $2.00 for the bus… And pinching durries of anyone seen with a cigarette in their hands…
        And as for saying that Australian white’s discriminate against aboriginal people well that’s a load off shit. Ever herd off the all blacks… yeah that’s right aboriginal people have their own football team… that is aboriginal only… You ever heard of an all Caucasian footy team?? No well yea cos if there were it’d be racist. Have a look around and judge for your selves on who is really discriminated against…
        Also you might be thinking that aboriginal people are like this as they are not properly educated..??
        Well there are free education schemes for them to… they don’t pay a cent for their education they have all the opportunities in the world… More than most Australians will have in their live time. . The aboriginal people off this day and age need to take responsibility for their own lives stop wasting start saving and start building a better future for your people.

        • So who provides hospitals and housing in the Top End?

          The Government. So how about placing the blame where it rightly belongs – with Territory and Federal Governments – not with Aboriginal people.

        • Mind Made up – YOUR AN IDIOT (sic) re-read and actually look at what my arguement(sic) is getting at.. they are given enough to support themselves, the goverment (sic) is not to blame. it’s sort of like.. you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.. well in this case, you can give them all the money in the world.. and all the benefits they can get and yet it still doesn’t help.

        • KT, you are an idiot! Don’t pull your ‘come to the NT to see it’ crap, I’ve lived and worked in the NT so I have seen it.

          The point that you are missing is that aborigines have an entirely different worldview to European Australians. In one life time many will be faced with the developments that us Europeans have has centuries to deal with.

          When you can come down from your privileged throne and get with the real world, come back and talk. At the moment you’re spewing crap that just proves that you know absolutely nothing about the situation and are incredibly uneducated.

  6. Stupid idiot should purchase private health insurance if she’s too precious to wait in line. But no, she sponges off the taxpayer in pure bogan style.

  7. You know what Amanda I am one of the minority (being Aboriginal) and when I get sick I have to wait in line just as long as the next person. Doesn’t matter what colour a persons’ skin is, its getting served in order of arrival unless the illness or injury is classed as a priority (or at least that’s what I thought) but hey maybe we are all wrong and Amanda is right (of course I’m being sarcastic if you can’t tell).

    Amanda I don’t judge unless I am ready to be judged myself… but in this case I will make an exception because I judge you to be an impatient person who obviously was not sick or injured enough to go to the head of the line and because maybe “you were in a rush to get somewhere or do something” and maybe individuals from a different background to yours, who could have arrived before you or had an appointment, got treated before you, that you became even more angry and thought “Hey I’m pissed I’m going to aerate my stupid racist opinion all over facebook to get some attention”

    But now you just look like an idiot. Well that’s my rant and that’s all I have to say. Judge me as you will

  8. “Katie Rose: Just looked at what racist means”

    The meaning of racist or racism:
    rac·ism   
    [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
    –noun
    1.a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2.a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3.hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Cultural Dictionary
    racism definition

    The belief that some races are inherently superior (physically, intellectually, or culturally) to others and therefore have a right to dominate them. In the United States, racism, particularly by whites against blacks, has created profound racial tension and conflict in virtually all aspects of American society. Until the breakthroughs achieved by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s, white domination over blacks was institutionalized and supported in all branches and levels of government, by denying blacks their civil rights and opportunities to participate in political, economic, and social communities.

    Word Origin & History
    racist

    1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from Fr. racisme , 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1907) and racialist (1917), both often used at first in a British or South African context.

    Now just reading through these definitions and Katie just have to say this is not something you should be proud of and stating that you are on the internet just makes you look like an idiot because obviously you only read what you wanted and did not see the context as a whole.

    All people are equal in their own right and just because an indigenous race of people where/are not as “advanced” as the non-indigenous people did/does not make them a lesser people. They just had/have different values and priorities and were/are advanced in different ways (mostly culturally).

  9. amanda doesn’t seem to know how a health system works and katie was dropped on her head as a child. repeatedly by the looks of it

  10. I am tired of people complaining about our public health system: compared with most/all others in the world, it is excellent. Try being in most countries and turning up to an emergency dept: mostly we are attended to within 4 hours or so. Having worked in one, there is no preference given except on the basis of need, which is surely how it should be. Health is an area where no matter how much money it receives, there will always be short-comings.

  11. I’m starting to see a pattern on how people use the phrase “born and bred” to justify things without actually thinking about it. Ugh. It’s leaving a really bad taste in my mouth.

  12. I suppose she would prefer an apatheid system where we have separate hospitals and clinics, and whites get the higher standard of care and higher urgency? F off moron. They don’t see you first because you’re Black/White/Rainbow, it’s who gets their first or who needs care urgently.

    Once I accidentally overdosed on prescription medicine and they didn’t even see me for 45 mins. In that time I’d vomited 4 times on the waiting room floor. It was awful, but there were people with far worse injuries than mine who needed far more urgent attention than me needing an IV antidote for a non-life threatening OD of valium.

    • Oddly enough, I’m an asian and I’ve waited in the ER for hours as well. I’ve had people who were white, black, asian, young and old who were served before me. Put it this way one of the last jobs I’d EVER want to do is to be a triege nurse.

      Either (rarely) you’re sitting there doing nothing or everyone is screaming at you about how this is the worst pain in the universe and how obviously they must be suffering more than anyone else and how could you not see that.

      Whilst I can’t guarantee that every triege nurse is perfect, the system here (as far as education and the standard of the medical profession here) is pretty damn good. It’s their job to judge who has the greater priority.

      As a patient we’re generally going to have no idea why other patients are there and considering how busy most trieges are the last thing they have time to do is discriminate based on race. ER is a shit stressed filled job and total respect for any nurse or doctor willing to work in this department. The triege is the front line of this.

      They do prioritise because that’s their job. They do appear relatively calm because they have to. If a kid has an appendix which is about to burst they’re going to put them through first because it can kill them, if they’ve swallowed something toxic once again they’re probably going to get priority. Just because you can’t see someone bleeding all over the floor does not mean it isn’t a higher priority. We have a half decent system but it doesn’t always mean it can handle everything that’s thrown at it all at once.

    • I’m keen to see racists eliminated from the national gene pool, so I am doing my own triage here.

      The Asian kid would get my vote on who should be seen first.

    • That’s disgraceful. They should have just let that asian kid die while they attended to your ingrown toenail .
      The nerve of those ‘doctors’ thinking that just because your illness was less serious that they could just leave you to wait while they treated other people because they were allegedly more urgent than you.

      I’ve included some free sarcasm tags for you because I doubt you’d pick up on the sarcasm on your own.

      • Ummm Paddy_Irish_girl I think you missed the joke. It’s cute the way you’re so anti-racist in a hotheaded, aggressive (and now sarcastic) way, but honestly, try to understand the meaning behind other’s postings before you ark up. I’ve notice this a couple of times with your replies. It’s not just you, alot of people on this site respond to nasty racism with nasty hyperbole, and often the original issues are not addressed. It gets a bit undergrad at times, which is a shame, because racism IS an important thing to expose and discuss.

      • ps. Amanda Dawes sounds like a right c*nt. I mean, what the hell is she even talking about? The idea that race drives treatment in this country is ridiculous, if you’re talking about turning up at a hospital/clinic. I work in the system, and I’ve never heard or seen it. Of course, health outcomes by race can be significantly different, but actual treatment is about as un-racist as you can get: there’s nothing in the process to support it. Is she maybe whingeing about that vague ‘boat people get health cards’ thing?

      • Pete, I think Paddy_irish_girl is replying to Krystal, not Josh.

        So I think she understood the meaning behind the post alright.
        I understood the sarcasm (joke).

  13. Amanda grow up – in hospital Emergency Departments they have what is called a “triage system” – every hospital has this. I have worked in Medical Oncology and Haematology in the public health system, and those Departments also now have triage systems in place due to the high rate of referrals to specialists in those areas. You don’t want to wait, get private health insurance – this “may” get you an earlier appointment.
    Next time, think before you make your hillbilly statements, based on “little/no” fact.

  14. For Amanda, so you won’t be so ignorant when attending an Emergency Department again (and probably harrasing the poor doctors/nursing staff, who are already over-worked and under-appreciated already.

    In Australia, the triage system is used to guide hospital staff towards seeing patients according to how sick they are. This system allows patients with life-threatening problems to be seen first.

    In general, the triage system has five levels:

    1. Immediate (life threatening)
    2. Emergency (could become life-threatening)
    3. Urgent (not life-threatening)
    4. Semi-urgent
    5. Non-urgent (needs treatment when time permits).

    You will be treated as soon as possible, but someone who arrives in the Emergency Department after you may be seen before you if they need treatment more urgently.

    Sorry, for the long rant back!

  15. @ Krystal … i was probably the asian kid! and you could have been the 20 something year old drunken woman shouting at the ambo’s wheeling me in that white people have to wait and that’s it’s like totes unfair.

    In the end, public health doesn’t work in a “first in, first serve” fashion, the sooner stupid people understand, the better. If I get hit by a guy who can’t seem to drive his car in the correct lane (who was white, who decided to yell at me for being a bad asian female driver who needs to go back to where she came from… even though he was driving in the wrong direction and the police said it was his fault…) I do believe I should go in to see a doctor before the woman who drunkenly couldn’t get her tampon out because she cut the string off so it wouldn’t show or escape unexpectedly.

    In conclusion, sorry about the rant, people are made to wait because the triage nurse believes that there are others there that need to be seen to first, if you don’t like it, well, try not to hurt yourself.

  16. Amanda doesn’t sound like she has much going for her, if she really thinks that’s how the public health system works. I once had to take my brother to the emergency room, with a concussion. He was seen as soon as possible, only because anyone with anything which can be life threatening is attended to immediately. But, whatever you think Amanda. And as for Katie, I’m impressed she knew how to spell racist, even more so to hear that she actually owns a dictionary. Not sure that means there is hope for the bogan population though……

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