Great site. I love it how bogans are so picky about which immigrants they hate. It is ok to have british parents but not asian ones!?!
well, the world isnt over-populated with brits.
Are you too scared to post using your real name?
lol wat a shit page talk about gook luvin raghead fucking cuntfaces lol
Wow, you were clearly strained through a hanky, weren’t you?
If you don’t like it, leave it. I’m sure you’re familiar with the phrase.
hey admin hope some cunt bash the fuck out of ya u gook cunt
You missed the part above where it said that all three of the admins of this site are white, didn’t you? I’m glad of the reassurance that you’re mentally defective, because the idea of someone with all their marbles thinking such a violent sentiment is ok disturbs me. Just saying, “Inita”.
wow cass i’m just impressed you could understand what Inita Bonghit was saying. i wish i could read English and bogan as well.
I love how you sit on your sanctimonious stool and judge people and publish personal information about them, while you cower behind a fake screen name and a mass of sheep jumping on the band wagon for a cause they are so ignorant about. The only thing that one can conclude from this is a) you are either an Islamic follower manipulating the uncultured minds of some many stupid followers, b) you are 15 years old virgin with no life experience of education or both.
Either way what you are doing is the exact same thing that you are ‘shaming’ others for doing, the difference is they have the balls to actually stand up for their beliefs using their own names and educated information.
You see antibogan the problem with cowardly posting other peoples information on your site is; that someday you are going to come across someone who has connections…today may just be that day.
great little rant there. couple problems though
1) fake screen names…. nope not me
2)”mass of sheep jumping on the band wagon for a cause they are so ignorant about” are you sure your thinking of the right people?
3)im not islamic, im not christian im not jewish and i dont care if you are. we either treat all religion equally of dissolve all religion (personally either way i’m happy)
4) i’m not 15, i’m not under educated, are you sure your not thinking of the Australian defense league and ban the burqa?
5) the concept that tab is doing the same thing as the people it is shaming is way off. i wouldn’t be ashamed to say in a public place/job interview/ the local pub that i’m not racist would you feel shame if you stood up in those same places and said you are?
6)and finally i love hypocrisy so thank you for this. you rant and rave about how cowardly TAB is for using fake names, you call yourself “your mother” why not use your real name?
7) you then go on and throw out a threat about your connections and wonder why people use screen names?
actually dskfjhak dfhkdjshfk, the largest immigrant group in Australia is the Brits, followed by New Zealanders…obviously the myth of “yellow peril” didn’t die with the end of the 2nd world war
Er, so if there are more Asians than Brits that justifies racism? What sort of moronic argument is that?
The real argument is this. Once a particular group of people characterized by language, race, culture establish themselves, they have an inalienable right to perpetuate their ‘they-ness’… if anyone seeks to despoil that..they won’t be welcome. The formula for ‘trouble’ is this..when any one minority becomes large enough to challenge the pre existing one. Take Malaysia for example. in the 60s it was like 48% Malay/Muslim and 35% Chinese and 17% other races. In 1969 they had Malay/Chinese race riots.
If minorities are small and diverse..they are managable and acceptable. Stability of a country is only guaranteed by a strong majority of one type. Simple sociological fact.
Ah good then all we need to do to fix up Australia is to make sure the original inhabitants of this country get a fair go is by deporting the white racists.
Sounds good to me. A win all around.
The oriinal inhabitants already get a great go. If you dont agree protest on the special loan rates they are entitled to based on RACE. Or incentives to open buisnesses or the allocation of jobs for themwithin government departments. those of us are born here do not get the same deal why is that and dont site past descrepanys (spelling). For Aboriginals are entitled to these benfets not basedon their situation but based soley on RACE. this means the australian government is making RACIST policies. Good intentions yes RACIST YES. If i did not give a job to a applicant because he/she was say chinese i would be liable for a discriminaton case but for a job to be secured for a aboriginal it is OK? wake up Australia humans arehumans
Are you honestly saying that non-whites get a better deal in Australia than whites? Do you really want to enter into this debate wearing a blindfold?
Re: the ‘special loan rates’ – they are also available to non-Muslims. Get your facts straight dumb arse.
I never mentioned muslims as islam is not a race. What I did say was people who can qualify for Aboriginal satus get a lot of concessions that those who do not qualify miss out on based on race.
I did not call any one a dumb arse or other slander and will not.
please read my messages carefully before jumping to your usual replies .
If you can please explain to me ( a dumb arse) how a decision based on race is not a racist decision.
Not really sure what you’re on about here, so I’ll bite and ask the question:
Do you believe that Indigenous Australians have it better than non-Indigenous Australians?
I believe that people classified as indigenous are eligable to entitlements/concessions that others are not. All Australians should be treated equally regardless of theie heritage.
To give a concession/entitlement based on race is racist. for to give to one race and not the other is discriminatry.
And then if you are only half Indigenous do you then only receive half the benifits?
what about in the unfortunate case of adoption lets say a aboriginal baby is adoptade by a very wealthy family this child will have no finacial education or health dissadvantage in life so why would the child be entitled to incentives/ benefits other than Race. It is time ausralians were called australian not indegenous chinese arab just australians
So is it discriminatory to provide people in wheelchairs a ramp to get up stairs?
How are you disadvantaged in life, Scott? And are you aware of how disadvantaged Indigenous people have been for the past 220+ years?
Just to be sure .
Anti disrimination website says it is ok to discrimnate.
So just to be sure – the lawyer with a good job and a good home is going to feel discriminated against when he walks out of the Centrelink office after being denied access to financial assistance.
How’s your logic travelling at this point, Scott?
Oh man, the more I think about it, the more excited I become! I can’t wait to walk into Centrelink tomorrow and ask for unemployment benefits, even though I’ve got a job. I can’t wait to walk into a hospital and ask for a bed, some meals and a nurse on call despite not being sick. I can’t wait to apply for housing assistance tomorrow, despite owning my own home.
And when I’m denied each time, I’m going to write to the HREOC about being discriminated against.
Lawyer? why would a lawyer Aboriginal or not be at centerlink I dont see the relevence.
However in my case point with the two children single mum. (lets say housing commision no real bright future ahead for either children)
Please explain to me why the Indigenous child is treated differently. if you can explain this i will except your reasoning.
remember by definition a decision based n race is a racist decision.
now I am not calling you a racist (although you did mention “unique learning styles of Indigenous people”) Somthing more appropriate may read the unique learning style of children growing up in low socioeconomic communities. Dont forget indeginous brains work just as well as every other human brains. but I digress.
so again i ask you is a decision based on race a racist decision?
I
“Lawyer? why would a lawyer Aboriginal or not be at centerlink I dont see the relevence. (sic)”
That’s the point. Assistance is given to those who need it. A lawyer does not need Centrelink assistance, so is he the victim of discrimination when Centrelink refuses to give him financial assistance?
“However in my case point with the two children single mum. (lets say housing commision no real bright future ahead for either children)”
Why are you changing the story? Earlier the scenario was “…lets say a aboriginal baby is adoptade (sic) by a very wealthy family…”. If the Aboriginal child grows up to be a wealthy Aboriginal man, he will not be inclined to apply for financial assistance. Do you follow? Now if it was a ‘housing commision (sic) no real bright future’, then why on earth is the mother adopting children???
“Please explain to me why the Indigenous child is treated differently. if you can explain this i will except your reasoning.”
I cannot address this until you confirm your scenario. And while I’m trying to address your incoherent points, you’re proving to me that you haven’t bothered to read any of the information that has been made available to you in this thread.
“remember by definition a decision based n race is a racist decision.”
racism |ˈrāˌsizəm|
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
“now I am not calling you a racist (although you did mention “unique learning styles of Indigenous people”)”
They do have unique learning styles. Have you read any of the information that has been spoon fed to you yet? Also, it was only 40 years ago that Aboriginals were even considered Australians and included in the Census and allowed to vote. Can you imagine being a 10 year old Aboriginal child whose mother and father are 45 years old? Can you imagine what kind of perspectives those parents have of our education, employment and democratic rights processes and systems???
Ican not disagree with the disadvantages placed on indegenous in the past however please explain to me what these dissadvantages are at the present.
and how they are enforced by government as part of policy.
and i cannot see the relevance with the wheelchair comment.
It is the race issue we were discussing so if you provided a rramp only for indeginous or only for whites or onlr for chinese etc yes thats discriminatry was that your point because my point is the “ramp” should be given to all Australians that need a “ramp” not just to one section of society.
Is it unfair to provide assistance to those who need it, was the point, Scott.
Indigenous people have for generations been disadvantaged through direct discrimination. Only 40 years ago were they even counted as Australians in the Census and allowed to vote. And this generational disadvantage follows through to each new generation. For example, a lot are uneducated and hold little value in our education system. In fact – our education system does little to address the unique learning styles of Indigenous people.
So you are telling me that it is only fair to provide assistance to those that need it. I think this is my point. All Australian citizens should be treated equally regardless of race. As a admin for this site I can not see how you harbour the point of view that disrimination is ok.
example two:
Two children same mother different fathers. Both aust citzen one 1/4 indigenous
Children are brought up by the single mother.
What further dissadvantage does the child with 1/8 indegenous over his/her sibling. And why should this child be treated differently in the eyes of government.
This is the issue i am raising with you/this website. If you wish to champion a cause you should be willing to admit that the current system is not perfect and that two wrongs never make a right. the current (reverse?) Racism should not be tollerated.. Or should it be allowed? that is the question is racism/discrimination ok as long as it is not on the minority?
A child with Aboriginal blood lines raised in a rich family with privilege, opportunity, resources and support is not going to be waiting in the queue at Centrelink waiting for an extra 15% in his pay packet.
How about you read the links you were presented with to understand:
a) the extent of Indigenous disadvantage;
b) the reasons behind Indigenous disadvantage?
Yes, I’m telling you that it is fair to provide assistance to those that need it. Is it fair if a lawyer walks into a Centrelink office and asks for financial assistance?
Hi,
By any chance are you Scott Pengelly from Melton victoria?
no i am am not this person.
i am just a person who is questioning why Australians are treated differently based on race.
TAB will do everything to avoid the question :
Is a decision based on race a racist decision?
he will site past wrong doings by govenment, insult you even make racist claims himself but never will he answer the question.
Is a decision based on race a racist decision.
I dont think he wants to answer it.
No, a decision based on race is not necessarily a racist decision.
Next question?
Give it up Scott, TAB is just being a typical beaurocrat and avoiding the actual issue that he seems to be intent on not answering! I get your point, along with a multitude of Australians, I also agree that our government is racist – AGAINST WHITE MULTIGENERATIONAL AUSTRALIANS.
TAB – since you seem intent on taking almost evrything everyone says out of context and quoting it (sic), then all I have to say is that you are childish and moronic, you do nothing to assist your cause and only seem intent on creating anger, further intolerance and further divide! Advice; when you can’t answer something, say “I can’t answer that” instead of pis*ing people off, you are encouraging intolerance!
In terms of people whom make posts using their own PERSONAL facebook and Twitter accounts; I feel it very unprofessional and unethical of you to post their EMPLOYER! You are SLANDERING companies, as afterall, that company has NOT accepted that employee as an employee, rather the private user simply listed it, meaning that the company has in no way condoned the person or their comments! So I would watch that if I were you!
Scott has given up, as the debate has become too hard. Are you willing to address the point of argument for him? Or just go on endless rants about how small your penis is?
A single parent with two dependent children if employed receives benefits under Family Tax, rebates for child care and Centrelink benefits with attendant concessions if caring for children under six. Single parents are also highly likely to be eligible for government housing.
Being a single parent with dependent children is not a permanent condition. Most single parents are able to eventually access work and study. It’s by no means a great or desirable lifestyle. Most single parents are unfortunate victims of family breakdown, some are widowed at a young age, but most people eventually emerge, find employment, successfully raise their kids and often form new relationships.
A bit different for Indigenous people, in a society where their culture has been all but destroyed, often marginalised, often victims of generational poverty, subject still to discrimination in housing and employment and with less access to educational opportunities than their non-Indigenous peers. You can’t really “stop” being Aboriginal. There are plenty of racists around to remind you.
no just been busy , oh and its nice the reply box is a lot easier to read now.
the debate was not really going anywhere so yes i have given up this does not mean I agree with your racist agenda.
i still believe All Australian citizens should be treated equally.
And for Josh access to education is not given on race lines. More so the higher aboriginal rates you refer too may be due to the higher proportion of aboriginals living in remote areas,
but a Aboriginal living in the suburbs has the same access to public education.
just a honest question but Scot and Daniel are you under the belife that aboriginals in Australia get a better chance then white people? and if so with all the extra advantages would you want to be black?
If Scott thinks “all Australians should be treated equally regardless of theie heritage” then why does it seems in his own rants, he feels certain Australians SHOULD NOT treated equally regardless of their heritage?
Quote dskfjhak dfhkdjshfk: “well, the world isnt over-populated with brits.”
You’re joking right?
LMAO!
Nearly every white person outside of Europe is derived from a Brit you twit – ever heard of colonisation?
I… Wow. You must have a crippling level of intellectual blinkerage. Speaking of colonisation, are you aware that Britain is not the only entity in Europe? Are you familiar with the Vikings (Greenland, Iceland, almost North America), French (Cameroon, Côte d’Ivoire), Spanish (South America), Dutch (Antilles, Indonesia, almost Australia), Belgians, Portuguese, Germans, Italians etc etc etc?
your all gay towel wearing monkeys that need to fuck off back to ur home countries
Leave the towels alone. I like towels.
your mother shouldve swallowed you, one less racist bogan
at least we’ll be ok when the vogons come to destroy earth
So glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this! 🙂
Guess I have to fuck off back to Nepean Hospital then…
I like towels. They help dry me after the ritual shower.
I also like monkeys. They fling poo.
Hey pinhead, if you ain’t of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent then you need to fuck off back to your’s!!
i always thought a bogan had a mullet,wore thongs and drove v8’s,didnt see eny of that in eny of the pictures here.you blokes are fuckin daft
Ha love all the anit-racism stuff but all the pro bogan hating is classic.
Whinge about racism and call them bogans, call some a useless muslim and its bad.
Way to categorize one group and bag them even though you dont know any every ‘bogan’ is racist.
i’d visit site more for a chuckle if didnt mean it’d get more hits.
How would you describe/categorise a bogan Rob?
P.S – had a quick look at your open profile and noticed that in your ‘info’, you’ve identified ‘being racist’ as one of your interests.
Good one.
Rob has a point.
Whilst not a race, I would argue that being a bogan is a form of disability.
After all, bogans are not capable of independent thought. They are often of low intelligence and have poor impulse control.
Bogan: “The term bogan is Australian slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for an individual who is recognised to be from a lower class background or someone whose limited education, speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplifies such a background.” (sic)
I might say that based on this definition the term “Bogan” is a least discriminatory, definatley judgemental, degrading and assuming. At no point does it even imply that a bogan is RACIST.
Racist: “Racism is the belief that there are inherent differences in people’s traits and capacities that are entirely due to their race, however defined, and that, as a consequence, justify the different treatment of those people, both socially and legally.” (sic)
So, the term Bogan, in itself, is racist!! Asside from the fact that the term is used to descibe a type of person, it is “Australian” and is always used for white australians! See term “however defined”.
I am often refered to as a Bogan but I am not of: Limited education, speech, clothing and beaviour. Rather I was well raised, reasonably wealthy, well educated, well dressed and INSULTED when someone uses RACIST remarks toward me such as Bogan when I merely protest the need to protect OUR country from others!! Australia is FOUNDED on Christian beliefs and we are FORCED to eat halal meat (by way of lack of choice in mainstream suppliers) and to allow people to wear face coverings in public! If I were to attend an Islamic based society, my wife would be FORCED to wear full coverings – hence – assimilate!! So I merely expect the same courtesy, and such courtesies to be ENFORCED!! Does that make me racist? Or a Bogan?
BY DEFINITION: NO IT DOSEN’T
So perhaps fighting racism with racism is not a wise idea?!?!
The term ‘bogan’ doesn’t refer to all white Australians, in the same way that the words ‘wog’, ‘coon’, ‘nigger’, ‘nip’ and ‘monkey’ encompass entire races.
Logic fail.
Oohhhh for crying out loud Sally… where in this wide world did you latch onto ‘we hate asians’ thingy?
are you blind ? Didn’t you see the photo of the Asian man shaking hands with one of our very white blokes?
I’m MARRIED to an Asian .. my children are BI racial..part slanty eyed..part white.. (they are also beautiful)
The “Immigrants” we don’t encourage are any who wish to impose a different legal system on our land.
After all..LOOK at what happened when ‘whitey’ came here.. are you so naive as to think blacky, or yellowy, or middle easterny won’t try the same ???? ALL cultures and races seek to perpetuate themselves and reinforce their own culture, usually at the expense of ‘non them’. So… you can discuss this if you wish at adl_1683@y7mail.com with me.
theres too many gooks about u silly cunt :))
There are too many morons around, including you.
Zero highlighting on this site of extreme racism from muslims directed at non muslims…funny that
Send us any screenshots you have and we’ll post them.
Its because muslims blow people up, asians sell drugs, wogs sell drugs, arabs sell guns, drugs and stab people.
Nearly all white immigrants are very peaceful.
Please, i want to be proven wrong
Puhlease… How many Muslims, Asians, Italians, Greeks and Arabs live near you in Grosvenor, QLD?
All that really has to be done to prove you wrong is to provide evidence of white people who are selling drugs, making bombs, selling guns or stabbing people; and also to find evidence of Muslims who are not blowing people up, Asians, Italians and Greeks who are not selling drugs and Arabs who are not selling drugs and stabbing people.
Would you like me to hold your hand while you attempt that research, Stan?
Hahaha, funniest nonsense ever! Your post itself is already prejudiced and derogatory. You call that peaceful? Check the dictionary first please. You’re only embarrassing yourself.
ok that was 5 minutes of YouTubing for a real obvious troll but i was interested into how long that would take
@Stan… honestly, are you kidding? Almost every screenshot on here is of white people being generally abusive and vicious. Don’t you consider that proof? What about all the articles on hate crimes?
@ theantibogan – Are you too scared to post using your real name & email?
*facepalm* yeah leave the door slightly open for intenet attacks… dont reveal your identity you muppet.
This page is like a breath of fresh vegitarian fart gas. I may be going out on a limb here but the more society even acnowledges the differences between us.. black white, yellow slant eyes or dirty hippy looking uni students.. the more it actually divides.. Personally I do not care what who or where you come from.. and I can happily be anti islamic anti hindu, anti atheist, well anti anything yet keep my opinions to myself..
not sure about you guys but if somthing isnt bothering anyone then really is it anyones business to poke at it… well thats about it really just another rant among rants
“….yet keep my opinions to myself..”
Yet you seem to be having some trouble with that today.
If you’re here to be an apologist for discrimination, kindly fuck yourself.
was it not you justifiing discrimination with our chat and the language you use not the nicest is it?
It’s not discrimination when it’s assistance granted on the basis of need you FUCKING SHIT-BREATH.
I’m sick of people whinging about LANGUAGE when they disengage from debate.
fucking shit breath disengage from debate?
The first reply you wrote to me you called me a dumb arse now this.
you have a website proclaiming anti disrimination yet your avitar is a violent image of someone getting kicke while on the ground.
you may be the biggest hipocryte i have ever encounted..
And it is discrimination when it is granted on the basis of race.
To grant or deny on the basis of race is racist.
you dont have to take my word for it you can look up many different dictionarys they will all say the same thin. so cal me whatever you like but failing to admit to this basic fundamental paints your whole “awareness campaign” as a joke
If you cant understand that you should ask the other admins and they might be able to help you out.
“To grant or deny on the basis of race is racist.”
Ahh, but Centrelink gives assistance on the basis of need, primarily.
Indigenous people have been the victims of racism and institutionalised discrimination for centuries. They are a marginised minority society, living as outsiders and are generally the kind of people who will end up needing educational assistance, job seeking assistance, health assistance, housing assistance and financial assistance. Have you ever had to apply for any of those things? If so, you are part of a much smaller percentage of people in regards to affiliation to your ethnic position in society, and you will find that those kinds of assistance will still very much be available to you, but on the basis of need.
If you think life is so unfair because Aboriginals can seek different avenues of support to you, then you are a whiney fucking sook.
Oh so i am a whiny fucking sook for bringing attention to disrimination?
You are the one who built a website to talk about about racism and discrimination and when someone does you call them a whiny fucking sook.
i thought everyone was equal.
You thought everyone was equal? Yet you don’t have issue with millionaires being unable to claim financial assistance. Aren’t they being discriminated against?
TAB im begining to think you are angry about somthing.
Why would a millionare seek financial assistance?
And what does it have to do with the questions I am asking you?
And Melissa if you read all the comments you will notice TAB has only tried to insult and verbally abuse me but that is cool (I think he is a angry man), and if he neesd to vent on me he can.
If a millionaire sought financial assistance, would it be UNFAIR if he was denied it?
Fuck you’re slow.
fuck im slow LOL
you are a ignoramous ( i quote infectious grooves).
A millionare would or would not be granted financial assistance based on financial circumsance. Why would I take issue with this it is not disciminatory or racist.
A person should be treated equally regardless of race this is the point.
If they were to be granted or denied financal assistance based on race and not financial circumstance it is racist!!!!!!!!!
I don’t know why the other administators let you post responses, your responses jump all over the place like the first response you gave citing a refernece to muslims?
now a reference to millionaires.
But tell me if a non indeginous applied for a job and a indiginous applied for a job and this job is reserved for indigenous applicants is this not discrimination based on race.
I may be a dumb arse,slow, blindfolded but I am not a hypocrite like you.
None tolerate discrimination.
Oh but you do tolerate and condone.
All oppose vehemently.
Vehemently maybe should change this to subjectively.
According to you, it would be discriminatory because it is not available to everyone. The Government makes decisions about finance, health and education based on need. Any person can have access to financial, health and educational assistance in this country, regardless of race. But Indigenous people have more of an extensive range of services as they have been systematically discriminated against all the way up until the early 1970’s and continue to feel the effects of that until this day. There is an enormous gap in the educational outcomes of Indigenous people, as well as life expectancy and consequently employment and housing.
Who knows what the hell you’re talking about Scott. Your sentences seem like they’ve been put together by a 6 year old playing with fridge magnet letters.
Buddy, Alex is asking your name, not your email. Don’t constantly masturbate your brain by avoiding precise questions. Besides, show your face on this site instead of playing undercover agent, reporting, copy and paste like a parrot. You must be spending lazy hours behind your screen all day peeking on FB, Twitter and other sites to find what? Everyone knows it already, so get a life, you coward. Sooo easy to hide behind anonymity. Your propaganda goes nowhere. One day, someone with the same senile brain as you but from the opposite side will corner you. Don’t complain when that day comes.
Huh?
LOL @ ‘Don’t constantly masturbate your brain by avoiding precise questions.’
Yeah good one. Ha ha. Hmm.
What?
ROFLMAO what a joke!
Great site and a harsher but appropriate complement to Things Bogans Like.
This is the dark underbelly of the boofheads highlighted there.
Indeed.
And just above this post too, it seems.
LOL love that picture! Wish more of his worshippers would follow that example.
Hey, you cunts still owe the blacks compensation, you said sorry, now wheres the money, hey
well… a couple of them tried it..and the high court judgements make interesting reading.
look for me at Koala732 blog 🙂
Errr… Another ADL loon hey John? Kindly fuck off
compensation woul be the great health care and houses the majority of “blacks” now live in.
Positive discrimination, is still discrimination. TAB seem to forget that, as well as the fact that all the “ills” suffered by indigenous Australians were committed in the main, a long time ago. Every generation since has had to pay for those past deeds. Saying sorry was no good, the apology wasn’t accepted, the day after that apology I was working in a remote Goldfields town at the courthouse, and I was still the same white dog cunt as the day before. Handing over fistfuls of money is a cynical vote buying exercise in maintaining welfare dependency. The first $5,000 baby bonus had the town flooded with all the aborigines blowing it on piss, TV’s, cars (they would pool it and get a decent car for the whole extended family to use), the callout rates for police and ambulance services spiked when the money hit their accounts.Job applications ask for ethnicity, benefit applications ask for ethnicity, aborigines can access ALL public health services, but whites cannot present at the aboriginal health services facilities, aboriginals can access ALL legal resources including legal aid from the government, but whites cannot access the aboriginal legal service. Aboriginals who don’t pay their ambulance costs (in WA at least), after a certain period of time have them waived. The housing they are provided which ends up trashed is repaired at taxpayer expense, when in the rare circumstance an aboriginal family is evicted after long drawn out and expensive processes and appeals and judgements, the news are all over it, and they scream blue murder. Meanwhile the white family getting evicted doesn’t even make the news, unless the person makes a fuss or a stand like deliberately sleeping in a car and getting the media to come along. So at the end of the day the fact that it is dressed up in quaint terms as community cohesion and integration, and positive discrimination, or enabling, the fact is, the state discriminates when it provides resources and benefits to people based on race (why else would they ask for heritage on applications?). To say they don’t have the same opportunities is wrong, they have the same opportunities to get educated, get a job and use the brains we all know they have, but most choose not to, they rely on welfare from generation to generation, they say it is cultural to live in remote areas where they know there are very low job prospects. My work in the court system allowed me to see all of this first hand, to see the resources given to the indigenous offenders and their families, but the simple fact remains they have all the opportunities we have but choose not to use them or pursue them, apart from the minority who are hard working diligent productive members of the community. The crushing cycle of poverty and disadvantage is kept ticking over by government and vested interests, the aboriginal industry is huge, and it milks money from communities into the pockets of so called “representatives”, who negotiate on their behalf, or who help them with funding for community projects. Take for instance a cultural heritage survey on a proposed mine site. The representative body of the local aborigines objects to the application as standard, they then work out with the mining company the logistics of a survey prior to withdrawing the objection. The representative then arranges x amount of “elders” or community leaders to go with the mining companies geological, environmental and cultural officers onto the ground. The company pays the representative x amount of dollars a day for each aboriginal person on the field trip, the mining company hires or provides vehicles, they provide all the food required, they supply everything, the aborigines just turn up. The group then drive grid lines across the site, conscientious aboriginal people make notes and point out areas of significance, the other less conscientious, read the paper, put their feet up and sleep (again I have been there done that).
The representative gets say $250 a day per aboriginal person on the field trip, they in turn get $100 a day. That is the aboriginal industry in action right there.
Very clever, did you do that all on your own? This the best you can come up with to something that challenges your perceptions?
In your world a heap of racist intolerant rubbish is supposed to “challenge perceptions”?
Sorry you have the wrong planet.
How the fuck is any of that racist or intolerant? You cockheads lose the plot every time you see or hear something you don’t like., I guess all 5 people who come on here for their group wank like the shit you post.
No baby. You lost credibility with your first thousand posts here. From now on, I read the first and last few words of your incoherent paragraph-less rants and then entertain myself by giving you something to bite on.
I fucked your dad.
Well you enjoy your little game of insults and stereotyping, the fact that fuck all people come on here, and that your supporter base would fit into a phone box is quite funny.
Phone box huh? You were saying…?
YOUR ALL A PACK OF GUTLESS CUNTS HIDING BEHIND A COMPUTER. PUTING SHIT ON PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWS. LETS SEE A BUNCH OF UNVIERSITY STUDENTS WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO. WHY DON’T YOU GET A JOB AND PAY SOME MORE TAX SO US BLACK CUNTS CAN TAKE MORE, HEY
What exactly is an “UNVIERSITY”? If by “UNVIERSITY” you mean university I can see why you are so hostile to people who go to them, you feel dejected and inadequate because you were too stupid to get into an “UNVIERSITY”, I mean a university. And therefore have a loathing for people who get university degrees because they do not strive for the same levels of mediocrity that your bogan aspirations have lead you to embrace.
Touché!
If you look at the ‘About Us’ section which is conveniently located above all these comments, you’ll notice that one site moderator is retired, and one is a lawyer suggesting neither are ‘UNVIERSITY’ students.
There is one lawyer, and another moderator who is self-employed indicating they have jobs, and do pay taxes.
Just sayin’.
Hi Jess, so …in your marketing study I guess you’ve heard of Edward Bernays ? consider this.
Bernays was Freud’s nephew….. Freud passed on the info about the subconcious to Eddy..who translated that into ‘marketing’… short version ..”sex sells”… he invented public relations. If you’ve not seen it…. this is a must see for marketing people “The Century of the Self” (youtube)..but back to my story. Bernays and Freud.. were Jewish.
Bernays wrote a book called “Engineering consent” which explained how to manipulate mass opinion… betcha can’t guess who bought the book ?…. “Joseph Goebbels”….Hitlers propaganda minster. Considering how it all ended for the Jews… one is tempted to describe that process as the ultimate irony of history.
I wish I had a backbone..
Er, make that above THIS post.
Very illuminating to see the trolls’ dribbles. How’s the weather in Victoria “John Jigaboo”?
And “university” is spelt thus. Learn to spell before you make an idiot of yourself again on a public blog.
The weather was good in Victoria about a week ago, I have been riding my Harley through the NT, bit warm, but not a Mosque in sight. Sorry bout the spelling error, I do type a bit quick sometimes. Joshy, Joshy, Joshy you are being a bit hard on me. Fuck head
Ziggy I am white but you and your kind do not speak for me and never will. Do not EVER presume to do so.
I read your site, the ignorance and racism is appalling.
It’s just a bunch of regurgitated crap from the usual dead shit circulations, re-branded as his own thoughts and opinions, which nobody really cares about.
Hey – just started reading! It’s nice to see an intelligent blog written well and in good humour, responding to the horrible nonsense racism. Many times I have found myself sick to the stomach when an acquaintance has surprised me with a “wink wink, nudge nudge, I’m white, you’re white, so let’s bag the Asians and the Abos” attitude. Merely the fact that they assume their views are so widespread that I will automatically share them too is a fright! Time to start openly and honestly addressing the not-so-secret problem of racism in Australia.
Exactly Pedestrienne. Racism ignored is racism accepted.
and racism needlessly publicised is racism promoted AB is it not?
Racism ignored is racism accepted.
… and racism regurgitated for the purposes of ridicule is a surefire way to get blog hits. 😉
Pedestrienne… please equip yourself on how the current generation has been utterly brainwashed by the likes of Herbert Marcuse and his Frankfurt school ilk.. by viewing this informative doco “The history of Political Correctness” youtube. But if you roilllly want to be brought up to speed and even understand politics aah..that will take you FOUR hours of watching “The Century of the Self” on google vids..or youtube.
I promise…you will actually have an indepedent mind after all that. (might be a bit lonely though as I don’t see too many here on this blog)
Intelligent and in good humour, these muppets are foul mouthed, brainwashed leftards who need mummys help to get out of the basement.
So you’re exposing these people that you call “racist” we can see their names and faces.
How bout you guys show yourselves instead of hiding behind masks?
Big and tough aren’t you?
Where’s your face and name then, ‘showus@hotmail.com’?
Racism apologist – no time for you.
Cowardly racist hypocrit.
Are you calling me Racist?
You were called a racism apologist. You haven’t said anything racist, but you imply that the people who appear on this blog are not racist, as you’ve placed the word ‘racist’ in inverted commas.
After doing this, you attempt to divert the attention from the ‘racists’ in this blog to the fact that none of three authors of this blog feel comfortable in providing photos of themselves. Hypocritical, seeing as though you’re posting without a photo, under the name ‘Butterfly’.
Hope this clears things up for you, bogan.
Hiding? I’m using my real name “Butterfly”. I don’t believe we need to prove that we’re “tough” either.
Nazi dittobots: outraged at having their own words accurately quoted back at them, since 2010.
Hahaha wow… I only just read that linked page.
Further proof that there is no such thing as an intelligent fascist apologist.
Ok, so now you called me Bogan. That is slander.
Ah no it’s not. Nor is my curiosity about whether you are a racist or not. Are you a racist Acherontia?
No i am not a racist.
why its ok for you to slander someone you don’t even know by calling them a bogan and then point out every bit of racism from facebook?
Meaning of slander (noun)
an abusive attack on a person’s character or good name; defamation; denigration.
By calling me a Bogan, that is an attack on my character.
“You’re a fuck up, you’re a joke, you’re a clown, take your pants down. Get fucked you fucking fuckwit…” – Frenzal Rhomb.
By your very definition, you have tasted foot. Your character/good name has not been attacked, as nobody knows who you are. You use a fake email address (showus@hotmail.com) and you go by the name ‘Butterfly’.
It’s only slander and defamation if you are posting under your real name.
It depends on how you feel about bogans. If you don’t like bogans, you’re with theantibogan. If you think bogans are getting a rough deal on here, then chances are that you are a racist apologist. The meaning of the word bogan has changed over time too – don’t consider for a second that it still has it’s 1980s meaning/s.
AB, please define the current definition of Bogan as your obviously superior intellect understands it so we mere mortals may become enlightened and therby more become more understanding as to why your Bogan prejudice is appropriate yet a Bogans percieved intolerances apparently are not.
Not withstanding the spelling and grammatical errors you have mentioned numerous times already.
Regards
Anti-Anti Bogan
I think it has been established that the term ‘bogan’ can be defined in more than one way. Most dictionaries cannot trace the etymology of the word, nor can they agree on one singular definition.
It’s obvious what you are eluding to, however, and that is that by using the word ‘bogan’, we are discriminating against people from the lower class. You might have a leg to stand on, that is, if you could find any sliver of evidence of any TAB author discriminating on the basis of socio-economic class as opposed to discriminating on the basis of racist/sexist/discriminatory behaviour.
Not one single post on our website suggests that those who earn less than the median wage are lesser people. What we often elude to is that those who are racist or sexist are generally less educated (and this is oft highlighted through our observations of spelling and grammar as a SIDE POINT). Coming from a poor background is not necessarily linked to having a lesser education, as public education is free all the way through until the end of University, and the responsibility of academic progress is on the student – not on the person funding the education.
Hopefully this answers your question. It’s important to note that nobody here gives a crap whether you’re satisfied with the response or not.
DirtyNicko,
Hope the following link will help you understand the definition of a bogan. That is clearly what this blog refers to as a ‘bogan’ as opposed to the traditional use of the term.
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
A computer with the Internet has an I.P address, that is all i need, no I.P address is the same.
ok well thats all good and fine, I will be taking this website to a Current Affair and any other news reporter i can think of.
I hope that this is the attention you people were after.
“A computer with the Internet has an I.P address, that is all i need, no I.P address is the same.”
Huh?
Yes, please take this to A Current Affair. They will most likely view the evident breaches of our racial discrimination legislation, and captured abuse that breaches the telecommunications act and thank us.
If you are here to excuse racism and discrimination, kindly go and fuck yourself with a beanbag.
Well, this was posted in April.. ACA must be taking its time getting to this story hey?
Either that, or they rejected you. Being rejected by ACA… the show that will put any crap on air… how does it feel?
Butterfly research less talk.
A Computer does not always have the same IP Address, as when the computer’s IP address is assigned newly each time, this is known as using a dynamic IP address.
But in saying words are an attack on your character with a name like Butterfly would you be playing Madame Butterfly on the stage or in a movie?
Only a bogan would take something to A Current Affair.
Sure, and i will make sure they know about the lovely people running this site “kindly go and fuck yourself with a beanbag.”
What wonderful statements you have for human kind!
You really need to be more thick skinned, ‘Butterfly’. Perhaps if you came here with some relevant discussion points and didn’t criticise our showcasing of racism in Australia, you might not have put us on the back foot about you so quickly.
But once again, by all means – go to A Current Affair. We don’t mind the publicity, and it will help ordinary Australians witness this hideously accessible racism as being real and current.
Oh, Butterfly. I keep typing all these messages to you, and then realising they’re pointless (and condescending).
Maybe just have a cup of tea and a honey sandwich? Then, would you like to have a proper discussion of what bothers you about this blog?
I don’t appreciate being called names.
That is all
Righto. I’d get a bit het up about being called a bogan too. Hope in the future if you want to post any comments we can have a decent dialogue.
Wait…
Did the new bogan-bot just refer to A Current Affair as a news organisation?
If you honestly wanted to be taken seriously, forget about it now.
Seriously.
I find that assertion so funny I can’t even laugh about it.
But, to grant a flimsy premise for the sake of completely annihilating it, i’d love for ACA/TT to do a huge beat up piece on how unAustralian the esteemed team behind the Antibogan are… would fit in there nicely with their regularly scheduled white-backlash hysteria.
And because they have a penchant for not researching anything (unless it’s placing a 24-hour-7-day paparazzi hit-squad on some vapid piece of human waste like Lara Bingle), it’s not inconceivable that they actually run with the piece.
But still, new troll, whilst there is plenty of bogans ridiculed on this fine blog, it’s not like they’re being publicly exposed for doing nothing…
Their words speak – when you can glean the gist through the tangle of grammatical bombs, bloopers and boners – for themselves.
They have not been misquoted or edited in anyway.
If they were so embarrassed by the implications or associations of statements made, they would not have made them in the first place.
It’s hilarious to see how many of the most hardcore zealots are tripping over themselves to declare themselves ‘not racist!’ after placing themselves on the public record defending the totally antithetical position.
If this is a case of slander, then surely the wounds are self inflicted?
John Stuart-Mill defended the free-speech principle with the following qualification: (paraphrase) the answer to abhorrent speech is not less free speech, but more.
It seems to me that the Antibogan guys are operating expressly from the same principle.
Yes we laugh at bogans, ridicule is always the best response to unintelligible propositions.
But it’s also a fine way of channeling emotion in a useful way- it’s much better to laugh at the manifest illiteracy of ‘white-culture’ advocates, than sob at the thought of so many heartless, willfully ignorant and cruel people declaring themselves ‘Aussies’ (a label that I, and I imagine that i’m not the only one, ONCE wore with a certain amount of pride).
And though you don’t seem to have researched any further than asking Derrr-in or Nutzi-Nick why you should be outraged, I should just point out that i’ve read some fucking terrific pieces (like that posted here, but attributed to Ghassan Hage: https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/a-day-in-the-life-a-lebanese-australian/) that I don’t know that I would have stumbled upon otherwise.
This is the free-speech principle in action- countering hateful, vicious, violent and deeply, deeply stupid speech with a moving personal account of the multicultural, secular society at work.
Which has only compelled you idiots to babble louder, and ever more incoherently.
When you can string two sentences back, and have at least SOME knowledge of history and world-affairs, i’d be more than happy to debate you again.
Next.
Wait…
Did the new bogan-bot just refer to A Current Affair as a news organisation?
If you honestly wanted to be taken seriously, forget about it now.
Seriously.
I find that assertion so funny I can’t even laugh about it.
But, to grant a flimsy premise for the sake of completely annihilating it, i’d love for ACA/TT to do a huge beat up piece on how unAustralian the esteemed team behind the Antibogan are… would fit in there nicely with their regularly scheduled white-backlash hysteria.
And because they have a penchant for not researching anything (unless it’s placing a 24-hour-7-day paparazzi hit-squad on some vapid piece of human waste like Lara Bingle), it’s not inconceivable that they actually run with the piece.
But still, new troll, whilst there is plenty of bogans ridiculed on this fine blog, it’s not like they’re being publicly exposed for doing nothing…
Their words speak – when you can glean the gist through the tangle of grammatical bombs, bloopers and boners – for themselves.
They have not been misquoted or edited in anyway.
If they were so embarrassed by the implications or associations of statements made, they would not have made them in the first place.
It’s hilarious to see how many of the most hardcore zealots are tripping over themselves to declare themselves ‘not racist!’ after placing themselves on the public record defending the totally antithetical position.
If this is a case of slander, then surely the wounds are self inflicted?
John Stuart-Mill defended the free-speech principle with the following qualification: (paraphrase) the answer to abhorrent speech is not less free speech, but more.
It seems to me that the Antibogan guys are operating expressly from the same principle.
Yes we laugh at bogans, ridicule is always the best response to unintelligible propositions.
But it’s also a fine way of channeling emotion in a useful way- it’s much better to laugh at the manifest illiteracy of ‘white-culture’ advocates, than sob at the thought of so many heartless, willfully ignorant and cruel people declaring themselves ‘Aussies’ (a label that I, and I imagine that i’m not the only one, ONCE wore with a certain amount of pride).
And though you don’t seem to have researched any further than asking Derrr-in or Nutzi-Nick why you should be outraged, I should just point out that i’ve read some fucking terrific pieces (like that posted here, but attributed to Ghassan Hage: https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/a-day-in-the-life-a-lebanese-australian/) that I don’t know that I would have stumbled upon otherwise.
This is the free-speech principle in action- countering hateful, vicious, violent and deeply, deeply stupid speech with a moving personal account of the multicultural, secular society at work.
Which has only compelled you idiots to babble louder, and ever more incoherently.
When you can string two sentences back to back, and have at least SOME knowledge of history and world-affairs, i’d be more than happy to debate you again.
Next.
Bla Bla Bla, no matter what anyone says u people are one better, its u guys against the world isn’t it.
Regardless of the things you say and do, you will never change my thoughts and opinions.
I’ll leave you to your little corner.
Goodbye
Damn. Because the only reason theantibogan exists is so we can change the mind of a dead shit internet troll called ‘Butterfly’.
Damn damn damn.
Hahaha had to laugh at that one
Hey Butterly, you have a friend in me, these three clowns are just gutless little wannabe’s. They started this blog to try and make a name for themselves, and to be straight up, they are. They are attracting a group of misguided fuckwits that live sheltered lives and have not experienced the real world. The anti bogan crew are just a group of boys that were all picked on at school, why not check their profiles. One still thinks he’s a kid, doing bombs in a pool and mentions his passion for gay movies, the next wears an animal mask, just to remind himself of his first and only sexual encounter, and the third considers himself the ‘Enforcer’, but look at the clothing, pops pants and braces and a slick 1920′ hairdo. Don’t take offence to what they say, Butterly, they are just trying be cool.
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And by the way antibogan, STOP THE FUCKEN BOATS RUDD YOU FUCKWIT, AUSTRALIA HAS HAD ENOUGH, SEND THE CUNTS BACK OR SINK EM, HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, the staple bogan rational for their misguided moronic beliefs. “The Real World”. Oh of course, those who don’t share their idiotic world view OBVIOUSLY don’t live in “the real world”. And, what kind of bogan protohuman couldn’t condescend to insults and childish tormenting by claiming those they attack are themselves childish “One still thinks he’s a kid, doing bombs in a pool and mentions his passion for gay movies”, not to mention questioning of sexuality, as bogans fear their own homosexual feelings and so externalize their self hate. Of course the childish idiocy doesn’t stop there; see how the bogan continues to deride the presumed sexuality of the second of its objects of vitriolic nonsense: “the next wears an animal mask, just to remind himself of his first and only sexual encounter”. The bogan once again externalizes their own aberrant sexual deviations onto others, in this case bestiality. Now to the last, the bogan states: “the third considers himself the ‘Enforcer’, but look at the clothing, pops pants and braces and a slick 1920′ hairdo”. No doubt the bogan considers himself as an, perhaps the, “Enforcer”, whatever that is. No doubt, in the infantile mind of the bogan a person dressed in “pops pants and braces and [with] a slick 1920′ hairdo” cannot possibly be an “Enforcer”, again, whatever that is. The bogan finishes with “they are just trying be cool”. Of course that’s all they are doing, trying to combat racist bigotry is just their cover, they are actually “just trying be cool”. Heaven forbid someone should try to be cool.
Then the boganous cretin externalises their idiocy and totalises it as something pertaining to Australia in general with: “STOP THE FUCKEN BOATS RUDD YOU FUCKWIT, AUSTRALIA HAS HAD ENOUGH, SEND THE CUNTS BACK OR SINK EM” assuming it has some mandate to speak on behalf of the entire country. No doubt in the underdeveloped intellect of the bogan anyone who doesn’t agree with its own silly beliefs about the “real world” is “un-Australian” (let’s not confuse bogans by explaining that the difficulty is actually defining what Australian is, one might suggest they read some Benedict Anderson, unfortunately his book doesn’t have enough pictures to hold the bogans attention). Yes, the bogan is indeed easy intellectual prey for people who actually use their ability to think beyond mediocrity and parochialism; unfortunately the bogan is also easy prey for unscrupulous politicians and business men who manipulate petty nationalisms for their own advantage, usually at the expense of the very bogans who swallow their nationalistic shit.
In short: Bogan, go fuck yourself, no one wants YOU around you mindless gimp. We would rather have a million immigrants of any nationality, religion or colour than even one bogan fucktard like you.
Yeah Butterly, these three clowns are all well educated, it appears that the cock that wrote the latest comment considers himself a bit of a lawyer. The comments reek of hypocracy, as they use fake names and will not dare post there own email address. So, send me an email, mey email address is for real, maybe we could get together, Butterfly.
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ANTIBOGAN TAKES IT UP THE ASS, DO DA, DO DA. G Banger, what a name you fucken cock.
Butterfly, email me at jigaboojohn@hotmail.com its a fair dinkum email address, I will reply.
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Hey antibogan, hows you personal violence orders going? Did you have any luck taking em out on one John J Jigaboo??????????? We are all still waiting patiently.
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YOU GUYS ARE FUCKEN HOPELESS
Well none of us have taken any out, but a lady (M.C) may want to take you up on an email you sent to her a while ago… Yes, the IP addresses match. Yes, the Police would consider that enough evidence to warrant charges. Perhaps you should take a break for a few more days, and quit impersonating Darrin Hodges. He fails enough as it is without your assistance.
hahahahaHAAAAA!! good one TAB! 😀
I think it’s time to remind Jigapoo and Death’s Head Moth that racism and discrimination are illegal under Commonwealth and State laws. Everywhere in this country. Including on Facebook and any other website or social networking site that can be viewed in Australia no matter what its country of origin. The same as if you wrote it in the newspaper.
So your “defamation” rubbish has no legs.
So be grateful all you get so far is scorn and ridicule heaped upon you.
Though we can also alert the authorities as we would if we saw evidence of child exploitation, or phishing scams, or any other criminal activity on the Net. Like hate speech for instance.
Hear, Hear!
This site strikes down bigotry with the same herd-like ignorance that bigots maintain to strike down minorities.
Elevate your tactics above reactionary yelling or don’t bother trying to represent the side of people who consider their values before accepting them. You aren’t helping by being aggressive. You’re taking the movement backwards.
This website doesn’t aim to strike down bigotry, just expose it. Thanks for dropping by.
and gain 15 minutes of fame
Why Sam, are you worried this blog is actually scoring some runs?
Being nice to racists and bigots does not work.
Join to stop the employment and housing rackets used by the Libs to drive Australian Living Conditions down. no457s@gmail.com
Oh let me guess…it’s Addled Jack and his boys’ club. My mum warned me about guys like you.
Thanks for baiting the racists; it’s always funny to imagine them bashing away furiously on a keyboard, with a furrowed brow, trying ever so hard to justify their views while using racial slurs and threats of physical abuse to ‘win’ the argument.
Australia is a great place and I love it more than any other country, but sometimes I’m ashamed to be sharing the same land mass with people who want to disadvantage it by denying migrants and their cultures the right to live here based purely on ‘AWOL FIFO’, ‘WHITE PRIDE’ etc
How would you like the indigenous Australians to kick you out? What I’m trying to say is, This isn’t our country and it never was and never will be, we’re all migrants. Quit trying to take ownership, get over it, grow up and educate yourselves with facts and not hate; you’re giving the rest of us a bad name.
Hello all, 🙂
Thanks for effort you’ve all put into this thread. You’ve made it very entertaining to read, I’ve particulary enjoyed posts from whatyoureadingfor in regards to the credibility of a current affair and today tonight as legitimate news organisations and reading Ziggy’s website on white pride. It’s not something I had considered before.
It’s clear to see that you’re all very passionate about your particular views and it definately does make for very interesting reading. I’ve been meaning to contribute something to this thread for some time now, but I’ve never really had anything to say. But I will say one thing, although it is sensational to see young people standing up for what they believe in, perhaps you might wish to consider moving away from name calling. I know that you all might think that the calibre of individual you debate with is often less than your own. but If someone is stupid, it’s merely a matter of time before they open their mouths and confirm it.
I think Sam summed it up quite well if somewhat harshly,
“Elevate your tactics above reactionary yelling” and “you aren’t helping by being aggressive. You’re taking the movement backwards.”
I think a number of very clearly intelligent young people such as Josh, and whatareyoureadingfor are being riled by the likes of Mr Jigaboo. There are both sharp and equipped people on both sides of any argument, and it’s a shame to see that you’re being blatently stirred up by profanity and low level character attack so some odd fellow can have a giggle on the other side of keyboard.
I commend you for stepping up to be hero’s of equality, but if you are, don’t reduce the impact and credibility of what you have to say by stooping to entertain childish remarks. If you feel that you are intellectually superior and better qualifed to have an opinion, let that be reflected in how you say what you wish to.
Feel free to dismiss my suggestions, it’s a risk we all take by sharing our opinions. But if you would like to be taken seriously, by people that actually matter, it might be worth your while to consider it.
Thank you and keep up the good work, I’ll continue reading regardless of any backlash this post may attract.
Good luck and Kind regards
Chris.
Jigaboo et. al has/have been banned. They were left around in the early days to promote activity on the blog.
As for this website doing the wrong thing, we disagree. Please refer to the disclaimer. It is important to note (and this was not made obvious) that the authors of the blog are very heavily involved in other areas of anti-racism activism outside of this blog and go about their activities in very understanding and knowledge-building, discussion-promoting ways. Racism is a cancer that needs to be treated in a number of ways – sometimes rationality doesn’t work, and you need a bit of ‘let’s make racism look fucking stupid’ on the side. Enter theantibogan.
But appreciate your comments and the way you presented them. We look forward to having you comment more regularly Chris.
It’s interesting…it could almost be hilarious…that the anti-bogans/anti-racists/anti-whites/anti-Australians keep referring to Australian laws against “racism” or ‘discrimination’!
Because, apparently, Australia has no standing in their eyes usually as a nation because we “stole” the land we made this nation on from the Aboriginals.
Laws, statutes, and policies that Australia used to have to protect itself and the population? No, they don’t seem to count, they don’t matter, they were ‘discriminatory’. They had to be gotten out of the way. Forgetting of course that they are largely why these “anti-racists” had such a safe and comfortable country to grow up in…AND why so many foreigners want in here for a ‘better life’!
So, in an ‘illegal’ nation on ‘stolen’ ground…it’s the new laws that favour foreigners that matter.
Also, conveniently, it’s amazing how ‘anti-racists’ flit between decrying Australia as a “stolen” nation with no legal status…AND demanding that Australia, as a sovereign nation, observe UN declarations on refugees when it suits!
The contradictions of the multi-cult/anti-racist movement are dizzying!
Hi here as well Scott!
I love their contradictions about as much as I love our hypocracy!
We’ll beat them – one illogical uniformed and unsubstantiated argument at a time!
What hypocrisy (or even hypcracy as the case may be) do you mean?
Can any liberal, for once, try and explain and back up what they say?
That though, is likely yet another example of the constant contradiction of the left.
Which is seriously illi-informed, only logical in the coldest and most callous sense, and who’s attempts at “argument” are woefully unsubstantiated, at best.
Hey Scott!
Let’s lead by example shall we?
Let’s show those liberal multicultists that our arguments are sound by providing REFERENCES and links to LEGITIMATE websites to back our claims – since they seem hell bent on not backing up what they say.
Take for example – our fear that we are being swamped by inv-Asians.
I’ve found the following EVIDENCE that this is the case and will now provide it to the PINKOS to back our claims that OUR public transport system is being flooded!!!!
One photo?
Go and stick that right up you fucking ass!
I am NOT going to be told that I am not enduring what I do each day now!
Australians are NOT going to be told that we are “imagining” what we face, endure, and suffer every day now!
Multicultists seem to think they can wave their hands, like some Jedi mind trick, and have us believe that *what’s happening is not happening*, *you’re not seeing what you’re seeing*, *this is not occurring*…and it’s bullshit, total bullshit.
I ride…we ride…on buses and trains every day…and they are fucking paked to the gills, stuffed, crammed, CROWDED FULL…of Asians, Arabs, Indians, Islanders, Africans, and God know’s what else!
It was not like this even five years ago!
You cannot pretend what is happening, isn’t.
We’re not going to be lied to, we’re not stupid, we’re not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes.
It’s VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS the various races of these masses, newly arrived, and NOT Australians, and that the gibberish they are all spouting is not English!
You all want, insanely, to “de-whiten” Australia…and do you THINK it wouldn’t be fucking obvious as that happens?
What in God’s name do you think is going to happen as you “welcome”(?!) hundreds of thousands of foreigners into a civil, orderly, white country?
I ride on the trains of Melbourne ever day, I KNOW very well that I am crammed in with hordes of people that should NOT be here!
One would be fortunate to see three or four other White/Australian faces on our over-crowded buses and trains now.
I see what is going on, I KNOW what is going on!
I ride on our buses and trains.
DO YOU???
Nobody wants to ‘de-whiten’ Australia. All along we’ve been saying that we don’t care what a person looks like, as long as they are positively contributing members of society.
Enough with the buses and trains. You’re referring to a problem with transport infrastructure, not a superiority held by white people over non-white people. You do realise that your very presence on the buses and trains takes away the space available for other passengers too, right?
Oh my god… more than 30 years of socialism, hey-you-from-the Maghreb-feel-free-to-come-in-my-country, massive immigration in Europe has proven that it is a total failure. Did you hear latest report from Merkel in Germany and other politicians in France, UK and Belgium? And now we are going to try it or implement it in Australia? You must be joking !!! No way. When I fly to my country, Australia, I don’t want to arrive in an airport full of blacks, arabs at customs, bagage handling, counters… like in Paris… or UK. I want to see my good Aussies fellas. Not some communautarism melting pot of people who are here to make a buck, get the citizenship, make 10 kids in name of Allah… Sorry, not in my name buddy, and many others.
Go away.
I ride on the Melbourne train and tram network and scott, you are lying. You choose to see colour wherever you go, you could see two white guys doing something wrong and think nothing of it but if you saw two black guys doing the same thing, you’d remember it. you are biased.
A perfect example is your own facebook page, with you cracking it about 1 middle eastener killing a police officer and wanting to deport them all because they’re apparently all killers. Can they all be blanketed by one idiots mistakes? and if they can……well I think that puts us all in a pretty bad position….. most of those kiddy fiddling priests seem pretty damn white to me, wanna be lumped in with them? How about that idiot in port arthur eh? wanna be likened to him? No? Of course not, that is unreasonable.
Again, i ride the met system too and I love it. I don’t always get a seat but I very often do, In all of my many many rides, I could count the bad experiences I’ve had on one hand, that’s less than the bank. Should I hate the bank?
Went to Melbourne on Wednesday and got back today. I go to Melbourne about 8 – 10 times per year. Transport was on time and reliable every day. I got a seat nearly every time. Facts and projections for Melbourne suggest that road transport makes up over 91% of transport, and that walking and bicycle use are the fastest growing forms of transport.
Dear Scott,
Of course I don’t ride on trains!
I’m rich – I have a driver.
You are poor – you have no driver.
I feel very dirty when I have to travel with poor people.
Especially poor white people who have squandered away the hard work their Anglo forefathers put in to making this the best country on earth.
Especially poor white people who have the superior intelligence Anglo gene but are too fundamentally useless to utilise it.
That better not be you Scott or our friendship is over!
Just wanna say that you guys are my new heroes. LOVE this site.
That is all 🙂
Make sure you subscribe, and share with your friends 🙂
Hey I saw info on another site that you were giving away your bumper stickers. IS this still on the go? Would love to get some – they are awesome.
I thought you lads and lasses would get a laugh out of this little gem I came across.
I think the Australian Protectionist Party is summed up quite well here.
Sure it is immature, but aren’t we all sometimes?
Regards
It’s trendy and unfortunately easy to pay out on ‘bogans’ or ‘white trash’. I wish this site had a little more intellectual vigour that would allow it to see the dramatic shifts that are occurring in our society.
I found this article today (covering the topic of racism) that would be too hot (and dare I say uncomfortable) for this site to cover. I find it tedious what this site covers…I would much prefer that this site tried to explore the real issues…the real reason why we see racism; and its root causes.
You must feel like a real hero, coming here and dictating what we choose to ‘cover’ and what we don’t. If there’s a blog void in your life, fill it. I don’t head to fashion blogs and complain about how they don’t discuss Havaianas anymore.
You’re right, I have better things to do than argue with narrow-minded intellectual lightweights. Good luck with your blog…but just a tip before I leave, if you did some research on the subject (instead of relying on headlines and media reports) you’d know that the drivers of racism are only set to increase in the foreseeable future in Australia. If you really cared about racism it’s this that you should be concerned with.
Anyway, best of luck in whatever your (anti?) hate site is trying to achieve anyway.
Hi Shane,
Thanks for your feedback. I’ll be sure to pretend to give a shit by giving you a quick response.
We’ve done the research, and we know what drives racism. We know generally who drives it, and why. This website doesn’t claim to be a one dimensional racism killer, no sir. It just highlights the barbaric stupidity. The authors of this blog strongly believe that racism is only ever eliminated through education, conversation, exposure, experience and myth busting.
If you’re going to come here with your insults and links to misleading articles written by BNP fascists, and then assume that all we do in our non-stop fight against racism is make this silly blog, then you are more stupid than first thought.
Go and get fucked by your dad, inbred hick.
And the massive irony here is that your “research” is ONE opinion piece (largely referencing Britain) up against all the many links and offerings by TAB. Who exactly is the ‘Intellectual Lightweight’?
Hey Shane, I don’t know what the beef you have with TAB? but hey why not enlighten all of us with your intellectual heavy weight? ..let us know what drives racism & how they are increasing etc. please don’t provide British examples though, because the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels. ..and if you take BNP seriously??? there will be a lot of people laughing at you.. 🙂
The article in The Telegraph is written by a BNP guy and all statistics are for UK, and has no relavance to Australia, it’s a completely different situation. Where do indigenous people of Australia fit in to the article’s equation? It’s funny how the writer puts muslims from all countries together and calculate the unemployment figure to be 35%, some how implying that religion and employment has a co relation. “I’m agnostic, I’m not sure if I wanna do a job :(” ha ha ha ha…. 🙂 If you think BNP is all about real issues of racism??? Pauline Hanson should also win ‘Australian of the year’, 🙂
M-Dawg!! says: “The article in The Telegraph is written by a BNP guy”
How do you know this?
Why does that matter? The paper still has an editor.
Maybe people who care about these issues are the type to (a) write articles about it and (b) join parties who care about it. Duh!
“please don’t provide British examples though, because the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
*Vast* differences between Britain and its own colony Australia?! No parallels? Give me a break!
There will be a lot of people laughing at you for that one, M-Dawg.
On this site’s definition of bogan it states:
“And this is no mere Australian phenomenon – in the US, you have rednecks, in the UK, chavs. While there are variations, the crux of the discussion remains the same.”
And the article, if you’d read it, discusses the demonisation of white working class people, something excusable because they’re ‘white’.
Same thing’s happening everywhere in the Western world.
ok.. now let’s pretend I give a flying fuck by replying to shock-moron.
Leo McKinstry???? who is he??? for fuck’s sake shockokmuncher, why does this matter?
well quick brush up on “Information 101”. Check for the source. when your bank sends an email asking for your address details to be updated do it, not when the Nigerian Prince sends the same e-mail.
*sigh! Non white racists reading this must think all white people are as thick as shock-fuck 😦
people who care about the “issues” yes….people who make non-issues to be “issues”, sacred little losers like you & Scott…. FML!!!!!! 😦
How do you compare the working middle class in Briton & Australia?
I focus on the issue being discussed shock-fuck, not bull shit like you do.
Population, land mass, rate of development, infrastructure, room for development.. these are what effect working class white or otherwise.. and you think it is the same in Briton & here…??
You have an internet connection… use it..not just for porn…
I think you like Scott, although keep kissing Briton’s arse has never been there or seen it. 🙂
So may be Briton isn’t what you think it is, it hasn’t been for the past 30-40 years anyways.
I’ll give you a life long break shock fuck, just don’t troll this blog.
Working class in the UK aren’t all chavs, working class people aren’t all red necks. All white people aren’t dumb fucks.
You like Scott see colour everywhere you go and in everything you do. That is your problem.
You are a racist that think for some reason white people have something special than others. Scott thought it was a super gene, but he couldn’t find it so he went to the opp shop to by some K-Mart jeans 🙂
..and whoop-di-dooooo, you also happens to be white.. actually white people don’t have anything special, they’re white because they lack melanin in their skin compared to others.
anyways…science and fact isn’t for you.. for under achievers like you only thing you have to make your self feel good about you is your skin colour. So you keep clinging on to that perceived superiority.
While you whinge & bitch about it all the time.. what is your solution to this perceived “issue:?
Why not put it down in dot points a plan that you think we should implement.
..see a psychologist/psychiatrist..may be they’ll bulk bill.
Shane/Shockadelic – have either of you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?
M-Dawg!! says: “Blah blah blah”.
Rob says: “Shockadelic – have you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?”
I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.
M-Dawg stated “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences.
No benefit drawing parallels.
Between (A) a country populated mostly by people of British descent and (B) Britain.
Come off it!
“I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.”
Enlightening!
Tell me more.
Of course Britain initially created the nation as we know it today. However, this does not mean that the cultures of the UK and Australia are exactly the same as of the present day. If you think that you can experience all of the culture of Britain simply by living here you are sadly deluded.
Hey Shocky
I really love this bit:
“Rob says: “Shockadelic – have you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?”
I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.
M-Dawg stated “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences.
No benefit drawing parallels.
Between (A) a country populated mostly by people of British descent and (B) Britain.
Come off it!”
As someone who has lived in the UK and in Australia I would have to wholeheartedly agree with you.
When I was last in the UK enjoying a lamington and some pavlova at a barbeque on Brighton Beach and sinking a VB, I couldn’t help noticing how everyone’s accents were exactly like mine.
Furthermore I noted how everyone was slapping on the sunscreen and insect repelant and a poor bugger had to be rescued by a surf life saver because he’d got into trouble in a rip after being stung by a bluebottle.
As we sat on the edge of the beach chomping down on our meat pie floaters, under the shade of the eucalyptus trees and Norfolk Island pines, we discussed politics and culture. Whether to vote Labour or Liberal in the next State elections. Whether or not we were going to watch channel 9 or 10 that night. Whether or not we were going to see the AFL that weekend at Wembley Stadium.
We also worried about bushfire season coming up as we were planning to spend summer in The Cotswolds and also how much El Nino would affect The Lake District that year.
It was almost as if 220 years of diverging and divergent cultures did not exist.
I just loved England it was EXACTLY like Australia!
Tool…
Oh! Bummer! We didn’t have the luxuries you enjoyed, in Mildura where we lived 😦 TA, There was no beach within few hours, and it was too cold to go to a beach anyways. Skies were always gray and we were worried about floods & how that would effect the industrial areas. All the international students from the university would hit the town and that scared me, so may Asians & Black people, most of the doctors working at the teaching hospital in town were foreigners too. I was really scared because if the cold made me sick I will have to go to a foreign doctor. So, the boys got together went down to the pub for few pints and it snowed that evening, so we made a snow man and fought with snow balls… legged home later when we got tired Life in Mildura sucks man. I wish I was in Birmingham in the UK. 😦
Birmingham. Totally. I’d be at that German market. That’s right Shockadelic – GERMAN! Don’t they know WE one the war!?!
That should won – not one. Oh dear.
Ben says: “this does not mean that the cultures of the UK and Australia are exactly the same”
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! “I just loved England it was EXACTLY like Australia!”
At no time did I, nor would I, claim to two nations are *exactly* the same.
I was responding to this inanity from M-Dawg: “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences. No parallels. Between British and Australian.
Hogwash. And you know it.
Terror, when you were “last in the UK” I’m sure you noticed they had about six thousand accents.
All of which will be lost soon, thanks to the Wonders of Post-Racialism! (patent pending).
Lamingtons and pavlovas are not what makes Australians “Australians”.
A Chinese person could eat them for dinner, but they’d still be Chinese when they woke up in the morning.
The British do drink beer, eat meat pies, go to the beach, discuss politics and culture,
vote for the same tweedledee-tweedledum political sharks, watch mainstream TV,
play rugby, soccer, cricket, worry about the weather.
“It was almost as if 220 years of diverging and divergent cultures did not exist.”
Oh, so now Australia *does* have it’s own native White culture.
Interesting….
Hi Shocky
Have you actually been outside Australia at all? Ever? In your 43 pathetic years on this planet?
“At no time did I, nor would I, claim to two nations are *exactly* the same.
I was responding to this inanity from M-Dawg: “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences. No parallels. Between British and Australian.
Hogwash. And you know it.”
*yawn* – whatever… You’ve actually yet to show the *benefit* of drawing parallels. That’s kinda the point you’re missing.
“Terror, when you were “last in the UK” I’m sure you noticed they had about six thousand accents.”
6000 accents – really? Why not make it truly a believable figure by saying there are 60,000,000 accents – I like extra zeros.
“All of which will be lost soon, thanks to the Wonders of Post-Racialism! (patent pending).”
Yes – this is true – accents are decreasing not increasing in number. I noticed the other day how all accents are disappearing here too!
Linguistic anthropology not really your strong point there sweety – best keep your thoughts to yourself on that one – it’s a little embarrassing to witness your serious medical condition of foot-in-mouth disease.
“Oh, so now Australia *does* have it’s own native White culture.
Interesting….”
Ummm – “…so Australia *does have [IT IS] own native White culture?*
“it’s” and “its”- if your going to attempt to be a smarmy git then please learn to distinguish between the two.
As for your point – what the fuck is your point?
There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture
This is what we call: Attempt at being snide FAIL.
Tool…
I know I’m 18 months late to this conversation, but I did want to respond.
Oh, Terror, you do make me laugh. Having said that, you did score a bit of an own goal there:
““it’s” and “its”- if your going to attempt to be a smarmy git then please learn to distinguish between the two.”
* “you’re”
As to the actual point Shockadelic was blathering about: Britain also colonised India, Zimbabwe, Singapore, Papua New Guinea and a WHOLE bunch of other places (don’t take my word for it, google that sucker), and I fail to see any validity to your argument that colonisation = compatibility. (the USA, f’rinstance.)
In fact, most of the UK’s immigration stats are due to them having agreed to allow persons from the Commonwealth (previously “colonies” to migrate there… but somehow ours is the only former colony whose culture is close enough to Britain’s as to allow parallels to be drawn?
Hold on isn’t The English migrants from Germany?
Rob says: “Birmingham. Totally. I’d be at that German market. That’s right Shockadelic – GERMAN! Don’t they know WE one the war!?!”
I guess you haven’t heard of the European Union.
I’m sure there’ve been ‘Germans’ in England for quite a while now. Both before and after we ‘one the war’.
We one two wars in fact! We one WWI and we one WWII (say that really fast).
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! says: “Have you actually been outside Australia at all? Ever?”
Irrelevant.
We’re discussing Australia and its society.
Other societies may have parallels though, particularly *British* societies.
“You’ve actually yet to show the *benefit* of drawing parallels.”
Yes, who needs to show why this would benefit our discussion.
Why *does* the sun need to shine?
All those people wasting time doing comparisons through foreign research trips and cross-cultural studies should really wake up to themselves.
“6000 accents – really?”
You took that literally?
Yes, accents are being lost.
Is this not regrettable?
Aren’t accents cultural heritage?
You lot whine about the ‘loss’ of Aboriginal culture and other people colonised by Europeans.
I’m sure they lost their original accents along with a lot of other things.
But that was only a tragedy when it happened to ‘coloured’ people, eh?
Any cultural loss by Whites is not really a loss at all. It’s ‘enrichment’!
“There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture”
Really? Then why do I keep hearing people claim, in defense of multicultural immigration, that “Australia doesn’t even *have* a culture”.
I heard this so many times I’ve lost count.
It really would be helpful to your cause if you guys could make up your minds what your argument *actually is*.
Attempt at being snide: FAIL.
Shocky:
Ah so you haven’t been outside this country then. This is quite obvious to deduce as you think that it is irrelevant.
It’s what we call perspective sweety. And you are seriously lacking it. No wonder you are scared you poor thing – you actually believe all those news reports that tell you what a big, scary place the world is out there because you have no evidence to the contrary… Shhh… I’ll let you in on a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: bad news sells better… it’s true – if you actually have perspective you begin to see that the scary bad world being reported back to you nightly is actually not as big and bad and scary as it superficially appears…
“Yes, who needs to show why this would benefit our discussion.
Why *does* the sun need to shine?”
Oooooh – great debating skills – won me over with that irrelevant attempt at a sidestep.
“All those people wasting time doing comparisons through foreign research trips and cross-cultural studies should really wake up to themselves.”
As the only person in this discussion (between you and I) who has actually travelled overseas and as an academic, I am particularly familiar with cross-cultural studies – thanks for trying to play that card though – I simply want you to explain to me the *benefit* in your desire to draw some bizarre parallel between two distinctly separate countries. And no – references to the sun doesn’t quite cut it as a response.
““6000 accents – really?”
You took that literally?”
Sweety – I take none of what you write literally – your BANANANAS trade lesson and THIRD WORLD = DEVELOPED COUNTRY definition showed me right from the onset that nothing you say can ever be taken literally.
“Yes, accents are being lost.
Is this not regrettable?
Aren’t accents cultural heritage?”
And they are being replaced by new accents – this is what happens – it’s called linguistic evolution. As opposed to the extinction of a language which is a significant loss of cultural heritage, accent shifts are actually a normal part of the evolving of language – big fucking difference – learn it before you start your extremely amateur and immature rants.
“You lot whine about the ‘loss’ of Aboriginal culture and other people colonised by Europeans.
I’m sure they lost their original accents along with a lot of other things.”
Again – note the difference between ‘accent’ and ‘language’ and then look at the terms “extinction” and “evolution’ – sometimes you are even more pathetic than your already base low.
“But that was only a tragedy when it happened to ‘coloured’ people, eh?
Any cultural loss by Whites is not really a loss at all. It’s ‘enrichment’!”
No – you’re absolutely right here – I mourn the loss White culture – which is apparently a culture based solely on the amount of pigmentation in ones skin…
Oh wait – are you taking about some form of Anglo-Saxon culture? Right there too – it’s so sad that Christmas has been cancelled this year.
“There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture”
Really? Then why do I keep hearing people claim, in defense of multicultural immigration, that “Australia doesn’t even *have* a culture”.
I heard this so many times I’ve lost count.”
Yet again you have proved to me that you actually don’t have any understanding of the meaning of the word “culture”. Please look it up if you are going to use it.
Also – if I say “[t]here are cultures here in Australia” – note the use of the letter ‘s’ to indicate a plural – i.e. more than one – and you then take this to mean that I am suggesting that Australia has a culture – note the use of the letter ‘a’ here to indicate singular – i.e. only one – then you’ve likely got a serious disconnect between your left and right cerebral cortex. Are you retarded? Do you actually have brain damage? Should I actually be nice to you because of this, instead? I would feel very guilty if, after all these months of communications it turned out you were behaving so impossibly stupidly because of a legitimate medical condition…
…Actually this would explain a lot, including your last attempt at a put-down:
“Attempt at being snide: FAIL.”
I mean honestly! – quoting me back at me – really? – are we in primary school?
That is truly pathetic…
Ha! Yes I have heard of the EU…..your point? I guess you are pro the UK joining then?
Currency – that is – barainiac.
Are we in primary school? Apparently, because all I ever hear from you is “Nyah nu-nyah nyah”.
The big, bad world?
I didn’t think it possible, but you’ve just lowered the level of imbecility a little more.
My objections to immigration aren’t based on how ‘bad’ the world is.
There’s plenty of ‘bad’ right here.
It’s based on the rightful inheritance of cultural legacy.
I and other Australians are entitled to it, and nobody else is, unless *we* say so.
And nobody ever asked our permission to institute a 75% Third-World immigration program.
“I simply want you to explain to me the *benefit* in your desire to draw some bizarre parallel between two distinctly separate countries.”
You mean like this blog quoting *American* bogan websites?
Drawing parallels between a country and its own colony is hardly ‘bizarre’.
They’re related cultures and peoples, both undergoing the same demographic changes.
This doesn’t *need* explaining. Except to an imbecile.
“your BANANANAS trade lesson” wasn’t *literal*.
It was an exemplary hypothesis.
When you were in school and the teacher gave some example to show something (a man rows a boat at X miles an hour to get to town seven miles away), did you think they were actually *literally* discussing a man rowing a boat?
“And they are being replaced by new accents”
Then that is an irreplaceable cultural loss.
They are being replaced by *other* accents, not “new” ones.
“it’s called linguistic evolution.”
No evolution is change of what *already exists*, not its displacement by something else unrelated to it and artificially introduced from outside the cultural system.
Cane toads didn’t ‘evolve’ out of the local Queensland ecosystem. They were introduced artificially, and so are all these foreign cultures. (That was an analogy. Look it up.)
“Again – note the difference between ‘accent’ and ‘language’”
I didn’t say one cultural loss was equal to, greater than or less than another.
“I mourn the loss White culture – which is apparently a culture based solely on the amount of pigmentation in ones skin…”
This is the most ridiculous part of your ‘perspective’.
You think ‘White’ is just a reference to skin.
It’s so very very sad.
‘White’ is just a broad inclusive term meaning basically ‘European’ (people and cultures).
The reason ‘European’ isn’t always appropriate is that many people of European descent don’t live in Europe (the Americas, Australasia, South Africa) and many people who are citizens of European countries are not *ethnically* ‘European’.
And since Europeans have ‘culture’, Whites have ‘culture’.
“Please look it up if you are going to use it.”
No, the people claiming Australians don’t *have* a culture need to look it up.
“[t]here are cultures here in Australia” – note the use of the letter ‘s’ to indicate a plural”
Oooh, clever.
I’m well aware there are more than one.
But there is a general majority culture and that is what most people are referring to when they say “Australian culture”.
There are many cultures in Spain and France, but most people would understand what is meant by “Spanish culture” or “French culture”, except for pedantic prissy princesses who need everything explained to them like they’re a brain-damaged toddler.
If you expect me to believe you are an educated, intelligent person, then start acting like you are.
“It’s based on the rightful inheritance of cultural legacy.
I and other Australians are entitled to it, and nobody else is, unless *we* say so.”
That’s a laugh. Rightful inheritance and cultural legacy belong to the Aboriginal people, even if they didn’t have the firepower to defend themselves against invasion. As for *we* saying so, the majority of Australians support immigration.
“But there is a general majority culture and that is what most people are referring to when they say “Australian culture”.”
Please, enlighten us as to what you believe entails Australian culture.
theantibogan says: “That’s a laugh. Rightful inheritance and cultural legacy belong to the Aboriginal people”
They are entitled to their own cultural legacy, ours. And we aren’t entitled to theirs (if they wanted to restrict the manufacture of boomerangs, they would be entitled).
Events that happened over 200 years ago are beyond anyone’s control.
We can only control what happens *today*.
Fact is, there is now a ‘Australian’ people with their own culture, and if you need that culture *defined* for you, like you’re dissecting a frog, then you are the ‘UnAustralian’. (I note you have yet to define what *that* word means).
“the majority of Australians support immigration.”
Do they? Do they support 75% Third World immigration?
How could they when they don’t even know what’s happening?
You yourself have made erroneous claims about what kind of immigration we have now.
I’d imagine most other people are just as uninformed, or more so.
So you’re going to avoid answering this question again I see. You can’t define Australian culture? So be it. Thanks for playing, Mr Cultural Identity.
None of the statistics I’ve provided have been erroneous. On the other hand, you’ve stated that 75% of Australia’s current migrant intake are from ‘third world’ countries. Whether or not you want to pay attention to the thorough debunking you’ve been handed by TA is irrelevant. Australian residents who actually oppose immigration generally oppose it on the grounds of the inability of a new person to ‘adapt’ to our ‘way of life’. While you harp on about ‘third world migrants’, you continue to avoid acknowledging the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy. The people moving to Australia permanently are for the most part, skilled, educated, healthy and have money.
That shoulsd be “They are entitled to their own cultural legacy, *not* ours”
Why should I define “Australian” when you refuse to define “UnAustralian”?
“On the other hand, you’ve stated that 75% of Australia’s current migrant intake are from ‘third world’ countries.”
On the other hand?
You mean that *is* an erroneous statistic?
Well use the link and find out for yourself.
“thorough debunking TA”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
“Australian residents who actually oppose immigration generally oppose it on the grounds of the inability of a new person to ‘adapt’ to our ‘way of life’.”
Now who’s making generalisations?
I’m opposing on it on that, and *many other*, grounds.
I speak for myself.
“the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy.”
Good. Then they should be quite happy where they are, improving their own societies even further.
“The people moving to Australia permanently are for the most part, skilled, educated, healthy and have money.”
And have no right to take my ethnic reality from me.
You couldn’t even bring yourself to give your opinion of what defines the culture in Australia. All you could do was come up with a wikipedia link, and then tell us to discount aspects of it that you didn’t agree with! Ha!
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Australia
This should do, though you can discount any reference to arty-farty or multiculti stuff.“
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statistics/pdf/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf
“The United Kingdom remains Australia’s largest source of migrants with an outcome of 25,738 or 15.3 per cent of the total Migration Program, down from 30,590 or 17.9 per cent in 2008-09 and over 20 per cent in previous years.
Chart D shows the top 10 citizenships, excluding New Zealand citizens (New Zealand citizens are not counted as part of the Migration Program).”
“On the other hand?
You mean that *is* an erroneous statistic?”
No. You called my statistics erroneous. I denied that they were erroneous on one hand, and suggested that yours were erroneous on the other hand. Geddit?
““the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy.”
Good. Then they should be quite happy where they are, improving their own societies even further.”
Again, applause for your amazing debating skills.
“And have no right to take my ethnic reality from me.”
BAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
Say what?
Shocky – slammed yet again by TAB so no need for me to add anything…
…except:
“I didn’t think it possible, but you’ve just lowered the level of imbecility a little more.”
Yes I’ve lowered the level of stupidity – I use it by logical deductions – you on the other hand seem hell bent on raising the level of stupidity to new and amazing highs.
At the end of the day it’s quite simple – if you really care about a loss of “white culture” – just go and start breeding darrrrling…
theantibogan says:
“You couldn’t even bring yourself to give your opinion of what defines the culture in Australia.”
I don’t need an opinion of it for it to exist.
Do you need to define what “Russian culture” is before you admit there is such a thing?
Does a woman first have to *define* what a woman is, to provide some Prissy Princess with a bullet-point list of “What a Woman Is” before she has a right to *be* a woman, or have opinions about women.
If you refuse to define ‘UnAustralian’ while using it in your blog’s title, it’s a little rich to be demanding definitions on what you see in front of you every day.
Culture is often identified with the *artifacts* and customs.
Those are the external expression of a people.
You can’t have those without first having an internal shared understanding of reality, a mindset. That is the real culture, not the external trappings.
Without a ‘Tibetan’ mentality there can be no ‘Tibetan’ music.
Without a ‘French’ mentality there can be no ‘French’ architecture.
You expect a list of “stuff”.
The true nature of a people is psychological.
Once the ‘Australian’ mindset is lost, there is no ‘Australian’ culture, even if people still play cricket and eat lamingtons.
There’s no way I can explain our people’s mindset. I’m not *that* brilliant.
I do know that it’s not ‘Chinese’ or ‘Turkish’ or ‘Samoan’ or ‘Zulu’ or ‘Peruvian’ or ‘Eskimo’ or thousands of other ethnic realities.
Knowing what something is not is half what defines it. Cold is not hot.
Now tell me how opposing racism, sexism and homophobia makes you ‘Australian’, rather than ‘UnAustralian’?
Are those issues unique to our country?
No they not exist everywhere in the world?
These things make one no more ‘UnAustralian’ than they would make one ‘UnCanadian’, ‘UnSwedish’ or ‘UnGreek’.
So please explain what ‘UnAustralian’ actually means.
Is “Yes, a mistake” ‘admitting incorrectness’ or not?
Mistakes are ‘correct’, are they?
“Your link to ‘check recent immigration figures’ is a little flimsy”
Flimsy!!?
It’s a facility on the IMMIRATION DEPARTMENT website (where *your* link is from), which allows you to check on data *updated* every month.
You rely on old reports from 2009 or earlier with minimal summary.
Top ten? Settlement reports tell you every country as well as migration stream, religion, education and a whole bunch of options.
Say what, indeed.
Was that supposed to be Bwahahahaha?
You’ll never make it as an evil villian, sorry.
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! says:
“Shocky – slammed yet again by TAB so no need for me to add anything…”
Please!
“…except:”
Oh well.
“if you really care about a loss of “white culture” – just go and start breeding darrrrling…”
Darrrling.
And the not-so-subtle homophobia from the anti-homophobes sneaks in again.
First it was Thai ladyboys, then being ‘flamboyant’.
And apparently its okay to be an 18 year old gay man, but not a 43 year old one.
Now it’s DAAAARRRLING!!!
Ooo, you are awful!
Plenty of White people are breeding. That doesn’t stop immigration.
Endless avoidance regarding YOUR definition of what Australian culture involves. Accusations of my avoidance of describing what it means to be UnAustralian. More superb debating skills. Here are some definitions of UnAustralian for you:
* not like Australians: contrary to what are seen as the characteristically Australian traditions of fairness and egalitarianism
* something, particularly art or literature, as not Australian in character
* non participant in Australian culture.
You may be wondering why I find it important for YOU to define what Australian culture is because I’m anticipating your answer, and ready to show you how many of the qualities, traits, pastimes and values within Australian culture are actually quite applicable within other countries and cultures. Perhaps that’s why you feel it necessary to continue to avoid defining it.
Re: your settlement reports. I said flimsy, because of
a) the amount of variables, distracting from the issue (which is Australian migrants’ country of origin)
b) the need to navigate through a series of steps in order to find exactly what it is you’re referring to.
What I gave you was the most current (2009-10) statistics regarding the country of origin of immigrants to Australia.
“I believe you claimed most immigrants today still come from the same old sources (UK, New Zealand).
You even admitted you were incorrect…”
Didn’t you say that I was incorrect when I said that?
theantibogan says: “Endless avoidance regarding YOUR definition of what Australian culture involves.”
*I* don’t need a definition of something I’ve lived in my whole life.
Do blind people need a definition of blindness?
“Accusations of my avoidance of describing what it means to be UnAustralian.”
Well, you put the word in the TITLE of your blog!
You put up a page defining what a bogan is, why not UnAustralian?
Maybe because then YOU would have to define “Australian” first?
And this won’t but it:
* not like Australians: contrary to what are seen as the characteristically Australian traditions of fairness and egalitarianism
* something, particularly art or literature, as not Australian in character
* non participant in Australian culture.
Not like Australians?
How can an Australian not be like an Australian?
Please enlighten us as to the “character’ of the ‘characteristically’ Australian.
Now *you* need to provide a list, or otherwise we won’t know what’s ‘characteristically’ Australian.
Art and literature are the creations of individuals.
Are you suggesting people only create collectivist-type art, rather than personal expression?
Long live Stalin!
“* non participant in Australian culture.”
You haven’t defined what ‘Australian culture’ is yet.
Yes, YOU. Since you insist people MUST participate in it, YOU must define it.
“ready to show you how many of the qualities, traits, pastimes and values within Australian culture are actually quite applicable within other countries and cultures.”
Likewise. *I* am waiting for *you*.
So what if we have things in common with other peoples.
Of course we do.
Because
a) we’re British-based, so we’d have much in common with any British-type culture.
b) likewise any ‘European’ culture generally
c) likewise any ‘Christian’ culture
d) likewise any Caucasoid culture
e) likewise any temperate climate culture
f) likewise any colonial culture
g) likewise any Modern culture
h) likewise any Homo sapiens culture (don’t get too excited, see below)
It’s not what we have in common that makes immigrants problematic.
It’s what we *don’t* have in common.
Culture as I’ve said is primarily determined by psychology (mental reality).
The material artifacts and customary practices are *expressions* of our inner perspectives.
As consciousness isn’t one-dimensional, neither is culture.
Your consciousness goes from the personal to the universal, and culture does too.
There are layers to culture.
Your personal lifestyle is an expression of your ego.
But culture like mind has other deeper layers.
The deeper you go, the more profound perhaps, but also the more remote from daily existence.
So what ‘humans’ share might be more fundamental, that’s not we live our lives.
We live on the more local, regional cultural level, just like your ego-mind is generally unaware of the ‘generic’ universal level of consciousness.
We live locally, both psychologically and culturally.
Just because people are ‘human’ does mean we can, or should, all live together.
Re: your settlement reports. I said flimsy, because of
a) the amount of variables [PICK ONE], distracting from the issue (which is Australian migrants’ country of origin [PICK *THAT* ONE])
b) the need to navigate through a series of steps in order to find exactly what it is you’re referring to.
Oh, it’s sooooo hard!
1. pick a report type (one variable or two. Country of origin is one variable. Okay? One.
2. select criteria (country of origin. Wow, I’m exhausted already!)
3. select date range (Ugh! I can’t take it!)
4. ignore everything else
5. click Next (Where’s Dad when you need him?)
5. enter capta (Goddamn it!)
6. click Submit (What a nightmare!)
”
As you will see from the most current data, the majority of immigrants to Australia are coming from the UK and NZ”
And you did it AGAIN!!
The *majority?!!
The report you linked to has UK at 15.3%.
15!!!
And it doesn’t state NZ stats.
But they’d certainly be less than 34.7% (which they’d have to be to make UK + NZ = 50% or more = majority)
Now can you *admit* you’re wrong this time?
Because it’s bleeding obvious.
Hypocrites! You people are just are as racist, bigotted and verging of hate speech then the people you claim to oppose. The term Bogan is a racism pure and simple! You are appling the term to a group of people due to there cultural traits and national origin in order to “insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people” Racial Discrimination Act 1975.
No, the term bogan isn’t applied on the basis of national origin at all.
Utter rubbish!
It’s a catch-all term for ignorant boof-headed haters who are incapable of a sensible thought, but who are happy to post public vilification of minorities who are often powerless and voiceless.
That they mostly happen to be white Anglos just reflects the demographic dominance of that ethnic group in this country.
TAB also attacks sexism and homophobia as well.
It is no accident that the same grubs who are happy to defame ethnic minorities (including Indigenous people) also have warped views on women, gays and lesbians.
theantibogan says: “No, the term bogan isn’t applied on the basis of national origin at all.”
So, where are your articles about Black Tanzanian ‘bogans’ or Korean ‘bogans’?
I’m sure there are racist, sexist, homophobic people in Tanzania and Korea.
And if ‘bogan’ only applies to White people because it’s an ethnic definition (food, customs, language), then it is ‘racist’.
It is a demeaning slur directed only at a racial group, who have certain cultural affinities.
A word no less hateful than ‘nigger’ or ‘kike’.
Josh says:
“That they mostly happen to be white Anglos just reflects the demographic dominance of that ethnic group in this country.”
Oh, so we are an ethnic group now, eh?
Does that mean we have the same rights as any other ethnic group?
And why are we the dominant one in this country?
Is that because of history?
So the fact Australia is full of White people isn’t something wrong that needs to be *fixed* (by 75% non-white immigration), it’s just a fact, the consequence of history.
For Australia to be predominantly Whites is not more evil than Japan being filled with Japanese (who didn’t originate there) or India being filled with Indic people (who didn’t originate there).
It’s just a fact. A consequence of history.
No cure required.
Shockadelic: “So, where are your articles about Black Tanzanian ‘bogans’ or Korean ‘bogans’?
I’m sure there are racist, sexist, homophobic people in Tanzania and Korea.” There are posts on here about non-white bogans, so try reading the site. Also the site authors have repeatedly asked racism apologists to send in screenshots of the masses of bogans they claim exist in other cultures – and funnily enough they never back up their talk with action. Your claim that bogan is an ethnic slur has no basis in reality. Bogan.
Hey guys. Love your work. Here’s a couple of freaks I have exposed on my blog:
appexposed.blogspot.com
Cheers
Shonk avoids the question yet again
“*I* don’t need a definition of something I’ve lived in my whole life.
Do blind people need a definition of blindness?”
I’m not too impressed by your “Australian culture”. I’d much rather have mine, because it doesn’t embrace racism and bigotry. The normal people on this forum no doubt would agree with me.
Your lot are always carrying on about “Australian culture” and “the Australian way of life” yet become very coy when asked to provide a definition. And I can guarantee that if we managed to squeeze one out of them it would bear no resemblance to the reality.
I’ve asked him several times already. Same with Scott.
Josh says: “Shonk avoids the question yet again”
“Shonk” has already answered the question.
theantibogan says:
“I’ve asked him several times already. Same with Scott.”
And I answered.
Australian ‘culture’ is not a list of A + B + C.
It is the *holistic* social reality.
Created by the people born and raised here for generations, not people who just got off the plane from China, India, Lebanon.
There’s no point trying to dissect it into component parts.
A jigsaw is more than the pieces that constitute it.
Do you need a precise definition to know ‘Australian culture’ is *not* Russian culture, is *not* Japanese culture, is *not* Mexican culture?
Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.
Australian culture has adopted elements from other cultures (surfing, pizza, jazz) while still remaining essentially unchanged in general character.
It’s not the “stuff”.
It’s the people and their psychology.
You yourself refer to ‘characteristically Australian’.
That cannot exist unless there’s a characteristically Australian people with a characteristic psychology.
Now we all know “Australian” exists, whether we can define it or not, but what’s “UnAustralian”?
*That* is a term that needs definition.
“It is the *holistic* social reality.
Created by the people born and raised here for generations, not people who just got off the plane from China, India, Lebanon.”
Then what about the people who got off the boat from those countries over 100 years ago?
“Do you need a precise definition to know ‘Australian culture’ is *not* Russian culture, is *not* Japanese culture, is *not* Mexican culture?”
Then there clearly is definitive distinctions between ‘cultures’. So you won’t have any problems outlining what you think they are. Right?
“Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.”
Thank you for acknowledging this. How then is our ‘culture’ being eroded by people from other countries?
“Australian culture has adopted elements from other cultures (surfing, pizza, jazz) while still remaining essentially unchanged in general character.”
Thank you for acknowledging that the Australian culture has not been changed or threatened.
“It’s the people and their psychology.”
Thank you for acknowledging that the culture belongs to those who live within it.
“You yourself refer to ‘characteristically Australian’.
That cannot exist unless there’s a characteristically Australian people with a characteristic psychology.”
The elements of an ‘Australian culture’ have been outlined by many people and organisations over time. Would you deny that beer is a part of our culture? If not, why? If so, you will acknowledge that this has long been an established part of our culture. As has the beach, a love of sports, mateship, a fair go, larrikinism etc etc.
“Now we all know “Australian” exists, whether we can define it or not, but what’s “UnAustralian”?
*That* is a term that needs definition.”
Anyone who acts in a way that damages Australia’s reputation as being friendly, compassionate and fighters for the ‘fair go’ and equality, put briefly.
theantibogan says: “Then what about the people who got off the boat from those countries over 100 years ago?”
They were either unwanted, or expected to blend in as much as possible.
“Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.”
“Thank you for acknowledging this. How then is our ‘culture’ being eroded by people from other countries?’
Eroded is the right word.
A gradual process so incremental you don’t even notice it happening.
It’s being eroded by the sheer number and complexity of the immigrant population.
How can such a large, perpetually topped-up, complex group ever become “us”?
The culture/psychology of “Australians” is one of simplicity and casual community.
The harshness of early settlement meant we all had to stick together, we had to fuse into a singular community and leave old-world divisions behind.
When you came here, you weren’t Scottish or Irish or Dutch anymore.
You were expected to become ‘one of us’ as much as possible, defusing differences (by ignoring them or in humorous mocking), and your children were expected to be 100% Australian.
Australians are a ‘mongrel’, which is why I chuckle every time I hear people start saying I want some “pure” “Superman” race.
But we are a mongrel of various *European* types.
It may not be possible for obviously non-European people or their descendants to ever really “be us”.
The differences cannot be easily ignored.
And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.
And in today’s Information Age, the idea that you must move people around to move culture around is just laughable.
“It’s the people and their psychology.”
“Thank you for acknowledging that the culture belongs to those who live within it.”
Did I say residents?
“The people” who define “Australian” are the people born here, born part of that “Australian” ethnicity, and who define themselves that way.
We may or may not “adopt” people from elsewhere, but that’s up to us, not them.
Ethnicities are defined by the people themselves. The people define who is and isn’t part of their ethnicity.
Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.
Ask an Aborigine if anyone can be a member of their tribe just by claiming so.
No, you must either be blood relations, or *adopted* by the tribe (i.e. the *tribe* decides who is included).
“Would you deny that beer is a part of our culture? If not, why?
the beach, a love of sports”
A list of stuff.
Beer and the beach are *expressions* of our nature, not the nature itself.
They exemplify egalitarianism, simplicity, casualness.
“mateship, a fair go, larrikinism”
Now you’re getting somewhere.
This is psychology, not “stuff”.
“Anyone who acts in a way that damages Australia’s reputation as being friendly, compassionate and fighters for the ‘fair go’ and equality, put briefly.”
And where is the display of friendly, irreverent, “she’ll be right” on this blog?
What would an “Australian” do if they went up to the bar to get a round
and some half-drunk grumpy guy was moaning about Muslim refos taking all our jobs?
Would the “Australian” get up on the bar and say “Attention everyone! This guy is making politically incorrect offensive comments and should be utterly condemned!”
The “Australians” in the bar would start laughing. “Get a life, wanker!”
An “Australian” would have casually tolerated the drunk, perhaps gently mocking him, then unobtrusively avoid that person for the rest of the evening.
And your obsession with spelling and grammar!
This is a country where we’ll go to a barbie at Davo’s this arvo.
We will *never, ever* go to a barbeque at David’s this afternoon.
Okay, you want a definition?
I’ll try my best (I don’t why I bother, because you won’t actually give it any thought before you toss off your predictable, knee-jerk response).
Early settlement was hard.
There wasn’t a lot to go around, so we all had to share (the source of our preference for simplicity and egalitarianism, distaste for ostentation).
This egalitarian essence exist in the support for the underdog (has too little) and the rejection of tall poppies (has too much).
Our preference for easy, simple food and clothing (meat pies, board shorts).
Our rejection of extreme prudery and extreme vulgarity.
The old world was far away and we were all stuck here together and had to make the best of it.
The only authorities were the loathed prison officials and bureaucrats (the source of our anti-hierarchal, anti-authoritarian attitudes. This is why Australians don’t like being handed an official list of Things You Can’t Do by some pompous know-it-all).
From this situation our psychology developed.
Life was tough for everyone, so sob stories didn’t go down too well (Hey Johnno, refo says life is tough! What else is new?).
We all had to work together. Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English, assorted others, had to become *one people.
A tough life in a geographically inverted world (Christmas in summer!), complicated by trying to diffuse the differences between people, helped develop our irreverent humour, our affectionate mocking, our sense of the absurd (what other country would build an Opera House shaped like sea shells?).
Our early difficulty made us extremely appreciative of any “time off”, hence our desire for an easy life, as much as that is possible.
The cramped conditions of prison life and the awareness of the availability of open land, made any kind of “space” very valued, hence our love of the beach, the open road, the big backyard.
So why do some “Australians” have such a problem with today’s immigration?
Racism? Xenophobia?
Those things exist everywhere.
No, it’s a sense of incongruity, of going against the grain, of *our particular psychology.
Multiculturalism is not simplicity, is not fusion.
Many of these cultures are very fond of hierarchy, authority, ostentation and are humourless.
The retention of original identities conflicts with our expectation of fusion, of leaving the old world behind (Why come here if you don’t want to “be us”?)
The excessiveness, impracticallity and complexity of it contradicts our ideals of easiness, simplicity, space, fusion.
It’s idealism contradicts our essential realism.
To “Australians” our current immigration policies are going against the grain of our very nature.
Burrp!! 😐
“They were either unwanted, or expected to blend in as much as possible.”
And your point is?
“Eroded is the right word.
A gradual process so incremental you don’t even notice it happening.”
You are referring to an aesthetic change in Australia, namely the colour and appearance of those born here. You aren’t referring to a cultural change.
“The culture/psychology of “Australians” is one of simplicity and casual community.”
I thought you couldn’t attribute characteristics to the Australian culture – but now you are! Simplicity? Bullshit. Casual community? Well immigrants generally value community just as much as you and I.
“The harshness of early settlement meant we all had to stick together, we had to fuse into a singular community and leave old-world divisions behind.
When you came here, you weren’t Scottish or Irish or Dutch anymore.”
Multiculturalism generally does work as a fusion of cultures, leaving old world divisions behind. Of course, jackasses like yourself like to elude to isolated examples of ethnic crime to point out the failures of multiculturalism, ignoring the examples of white crime that would still exist if we lived in a whites-only society. Ethnic crime does not equal a failure of multiculturalism.
“Australians are a ‘mongrel’, which is why I chuckle every time I hear people start saying I want some “pure” “Superman” race.”
People don’t quote you as saying ‘Superman’, they quote you as saying ‘pure’. Meaning white only. Whites are far from perfect.
“It may not be possible for obviously non-European people or their descendants to ever really “be us”.
The differences cannot be easily ignored.”
Differences that you continue to refuse to outline.
“And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.”
Yeah – that’s really the point of our immigration program too…
“Did I say residents?”
When you say ‘the people’ of Australia, I assumed you meant the people living in Australia.
“Ethnicities are defined by the people themselves. The people define who is and isn’t part of their ethnicity.
Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.”
Your opinion.
“Ask an Aborigine if anyone can be a member of their tribe just by claiming so.”
Aboriginal tribal culture doesn’t have any similarities with multiculturalism. Multiculturalism means just that – multiple cultures living as one culture.
“A list of stuff.
Beer and the beach are *expressions* of our nature, not the nature itself.
They exemplify egalitarianism, simplicity, casualness.”
Then it’s impossible to be exclusionary when so many migrants embrace so many aspects of out ‘nature’ by embracing our ‘stuff’. The ONLY reason you’ve managed to identify as an argument for non-whites being unable to be Australian is that they aren’t white. You keep implying that ‘they’ can’t be ‘us’ because 222 years ago ‘we’ were the majority and ‘they’ were unwelcome. If this is your only argument, you’ve failed. You’ve also failed to describe our culture as ‘eroding’ simply by the increasingly changing ‘appearance’ of those living here – despite their embracing all things considered to be ‘Australian’.
“What would an “Australian” do if they went up to the bar to get a round
and some half-drunk grumpy guy was moaning about Muslim refos taking all our jobs?”
The she’ll be right attitude is no longer the cultural norm in this country. We have advocacy groups, we have human rights groups. We have groups fighting for the rights of disabled people, women’s rights, the rights of homosexuals, the rights of children, the rights of refugees, the rights of working Australians, the rights of the homeless and unemployed. We have countless groups and organisations that stand up and oppose denigration and discrimination, whether it be isolated cases or institutionalised discrimination.
“An “Australian” would have casually tolerated the drunk, perhaps gently mocking him, then unobtrusively avoid that person for the rest of the evening.”
Casually? Gently? Unobtrusively? Are you sure you’re describing an ‘Australian’? Ever seen an Australian when someone has jumped in front of him in a queue? Ever seen an Australian when someone has taken the parking spot he was waiting for? Ever seen an Australian who has been short-changed? Fuck man – how far back in the past are you living?
*Blah blah blah references to life 200 years ago*
*Insert personal, unsupported definition of ‘Australian’*
I am not going to bother arguing your pathetic attempt at describing modern Australian culture. You’ve tried to compare Australia in 2010 to Australia in 1800. You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.
AB, Shockadelic has kicked your regressive, knee jerk arse post after post
When you’re called upon to be official adjudicator, only then will your opinion be worth something.
theantibogan says: “I am not going to bother arguing your pathetic attempt at describing modern Australian culture.”
Deep exasperated sigh.
That’s why I was reluctant to ‘bother’ in the first place!
I knew you would do this.
Not a second’s contemplation before the predictable PC ‘response’.
That fact you can’t understand *why* the founding era of our nation has any importance today, shows how little you even understand the concept of ‘nation’ or ‘people’ or ‘culture’ or ‘ethnicity’.
The early years of any new nation will have a profound and lasting influence on that nation forever afterwards.
Australia is not a blank state that appeared out of thin air in 1973.
A blank canvas on which you can just paint any old utopian vision you feel like.
“You are referring to an aesthetic change in Australia, namely the colour and appearance of those born here. You aren’t referring to a cultural change.”
I’m referring to both.
The introduction of millions of non-European people, born and raised in other cultures, changes more than the skin tone variation in our population.
When is it going to get through to you that ‘White’ is not *just* a reference to skin tone, but everything that goes *with* that, a civilisation with roots going back thousands of years.
Your beliefs insist you can just tack any old thing with human DNA into it, and all that’s changed is skin tone.
No, those other people also have histories going back thousands of years that shape who they are physically, psychologically, aesthetically, philosophically, in every possible element of human existence.
You are pretending that you can take pieces from one jigsaw and tack them on another, and when someone complains that the picture doesn’t make sense anymore, you think they’re complaining about the colours in the exotic pieces, not their effect on the overall picture.
“I thought you couldn’t attribute characteristics to the Australian culture – but now you are!”
I said I would find it difficult.
I did my best, but of course you didn’t actually want to hear any definition at all.
You just want to attack, attack, attack.
“Simplicity? Bullshit.”
You know nothing about Australia.
“Casual community? Well immigrants generally value community just as much as you and I.”
They value *their* community.
The casualness of Australians is reflected in their propensity to react to strangers as if they were cousins.
Of course, this is being *exploited* by people who care nothing for our real community, only for money or ideology.
“Multiculturalism generally does work as a fusion of cultures”
No it does not.
By definition, it encourages the retention, even promotion, of distinct old world identities.
The exact opposite of the Australian psychology of a fused community, where differences are *minimised* or ignored.
“ignoring the examples of white crime that would still exist if we lived in a whites-only society”
Of course they would.
Crime exists everywhere.
But bringing disparate ethnic groups together and encouraging the retention of distinct identities, *encourages* crime, as each group sees the others as ‘not my people’
“People don’t quote you as saying ‘Superman’, they quote you as saying ‘pure’.”
Did I say ‘quote’?
Several comments have specifically used these words, in a pathetic attempt to portray me as a cookie-cutter neo-Nazi.
Maintaining the distinctiveness of Australians doesn’t make them any better or worse, just different.
If there were no differences between ‘peoples’, there would be no ‘peoples’ at all.
Differences don’t necessarily make you superior or inferior, they just make you different.
Is chess ‘superior’ to backgammon?
Some may think so, some may think the reverse.
Every people on Earth who hasn’t been infected with the PC-brain virus thinks their people are ‘the best’.
It’s a healthy instinct that ensures survival.
“Whites are far from perfect.”
And I never said anything about ‘perfect’ either.
“The differences cannot be easily ignored.”
“Differences that you continue to refuse to outline.”
Keh?
Culture, race, religion, psychology, everything that makes one people different from another.
“And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.”
“Yeah – that’s really the point of our immigration program too…”
You guys are always talking about how immigration brings culture into our country, how it ‘enriches’ us.
Now it’s irrelevant, eh?
This is what is so exasperating about you people.
Any time you want, you just change the argument to the opposite of what you just said, and act as if you still make sense.
“When you say ‘the people’ of Australia, I assumed you meant the people living in Australia.”
You assumed wrong.
We were discussing what the *ethnicity* ‘Australian’ is, weren’t we?
“Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.”
“Your opinion.”
You asked me for a definition.
And your insistence that anyone can tack on a hyphenated identity, to an identity that has existed for two centuries, is also just “your opinion”.
“Aboriginal tribal culture doesn’t have any similarities with multiculturalism.”
I didn’t say it did.
They have *ethnicities*. And no, you can’t join in unless they let you.
“Multiculturalism means just that – multiple cultures living as one culture.”
No its actually meaningless, in any real sense of ‘culture’.
‘Culture’ requires more than a Noah’s Ark of two of everything.
Real ‘culture’ needs a history, a territory, a *mass* of people who genuinely share that culture, not dozens of displanted personal histories shared in a superficial way.
“The ONLY reason you’ve managed to identify as an argument for non-whites being unable to be Australian is that they aren’t white.”
And *everything that goes along *with that!!!
People are not just bodies.
They are a complete package: genetics, psychology, customs, beliefs, cultural norms, perceptions and perspectives created by *separate* histories going back thousands of years.
If history has taught us anything (slavery, colonisation) it’s that mixing disparate peoples together is disastrous to the human spirit.
Yet this is exactly what you want to encourage, the decontextualising of people into a meaningless stew.
“You keep implying that ‘they’ can’t be ‘us’ because 222 years ago ‘we’ were the majority and ‘they’ were unwelcome.”
We have been and still are the majority.
A common ancestry is one of the factors that *define* ethnicity.
“The she’ll be right attitude is no longer the cultural norm in this country.”
Because it won’t be right.
“We have advocacy groups, we have human rights groups. We have groups fighting for the rights of…, the rights of ……, the rights of …….., the rights of …….., the rights of ….., the rights of ……”
You think that a few opinionated ‘spokespersons’ with a megaphone and a chip-on-the-shoulder define the ‘cultural norm’ in Australia?
You are beyond clueless.
They are the exception to the rule.
“Casually? Gently? Unobtrusively? Are you sure you’re describing an ‘Australian’?”
Yes, an Australian.
Not a rights-spokesperson with a megaphone and a chip-on-the-shoulder.
“Ever seen an Australian when someone has jumped in front of him in a queue? …the parking spot? Short-changed?”
You are describing a reaction to a *direct, personal* situation.
Your soapbox attacks on Facebook fiends has nothing to do with any personal disadvantage you have suffered.
And neither would the guy in the bar. But you’d get out your megaphone anyway.
“*Insert personal, unsupported definition of ‘Australian’*”
Says Mr Utopian Fantasy.
“You’ve tried to compare Australia in 2010 to Australia in 1800. “
I’ve tried to explain how the particular ‘character’ you claim to understand came about.
The formative years of a nation are just as definitive of its character as the formative years of an individual person.
That character is not going to change because of wishful thinking, Happyland propaganda or hypothetical universalisms.
“You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.”
They are.
90% of our citizens are.
And our *ethnicity* is intrincally White, though if we want, we could include others (not if *they* want, if we want).
Buuurrrrp! 😐
Shockadelic: “You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.” They are.
90% of our citizens are.
Even if that’s true (and not your usual unsubstantiated bullshit opinion – I notice no links or evidence to back up your figures), 90% of white Australia does not vote for parties like Australia First or the APP. Sucks to be you.
However it doesnt take into account: asylum seekers, people who some people call ‘wogs’ and people that aren’t actually ‘white’ (asians, muslims born here etc.) so the figure could be much more. If you see in any Australian classroom I would expect 20-40% are not white.
About APP election results, they received 1,864 votes and also 773 votes from Group R independents. Which equals to 2637 votes. Then all those preferences went to the LDP which were ultimately useless as they failed to get a seat.
Yes but we all know why that doesnt happen dont we, you know the liberals,labour,greens using taxpayer funded slush funds to keep their voice from being heard, gaoling people for nothing, demonising them,taking their words out of context ,media harrassment etc etc .We know how you cultural marxists work.We also knows who controls you anti white grubs.You people are a blight on White Australian society.You sell your souls to the altar of mediocrity and multiculturalism.Race is real, race is more than skin deep.Science,genetics, biology proves such.
Stop White Genocide.Multiculturalism for all white countries and only white countries.Who was the racist jew who stated multiculturalism was good for Australia but not Israel?Hypocrits.He was a well known lawyer Jew.
Anyway you people should go talk to your communist prime minister Gillard the Dillard about this.Such is the freedom hating morons you are.Oh and by the way how come Julia Gillard has’nt faced her treason charges yet?Yeah look it up why dont you.
Dingo,
“Science,genetics, biology proves such.”
Which Biology book have you been reading? care to share the source?
theantibogan says: “Simplicity? Bullshit.”
Fish and chips
Stubbies shorts
Aeroplane jelly
Mad Max
Hills Hoist rotary clothes line
“Prisoner”
Utes
AFL
Speedo
Blundstone
Big Banana/Big Pineapple (they’re big, not complicated)
Vegemite
Eskies
Rainwater tanks
Mr Whippy
Lamingtons
Meat pies
Weetbix
Ugg boots
Pavlova
Bonds
King Gee
AC/DC
Thongs
Zinc cream
Milo
Victa lawn mowers
Surfwear
Canned food (if it can be canned, we can it)
Australians have a preference toward simplicity.
That doesn’t mean *everything* is simple.
No society is absolutist (though some of the idiots on soapboxes with megaphones are).
It’s just a general inclination toward simplicity, not complexity, and multiculturalism goes against the grain.
Perhaps you and all your megaphoned friends are cosmopolitan arty-farty pretentious designer internationalists, so you think everyone is like your friends.
There’s nothing necessarily wrong with being a post-racial, post-national, universalist as long as you’re honest about it.
But you claim you are acting in the interests of “Australians”, when you don’t either know or respect what they are.
Burrp!!😐 Is that someone’s shopping list?
It’s just Shockadelic claiming to speak on behalf of all Australians while accusing everyone else of doing the same thing. 😀
I can add a shit load more of Aussie culture than that.As well as the explanation on why the cultural marxists try and denigrate it.
Did you know that many prominent politicians fullly support the asianisation of Australia?
Hmmm.
Im going to enjoy making these so called anti racists look as stupid as i know they are.Been debating them for over 20yrs and making them look like the morons they are.
Dingo,
Why would politicians support ‘asianisation’? they them selves aren’t Asian & the people voting for them aren’t Asian either. And Newly arrived migrants aren’t allowed to vote until they become Australian citizens.
The logic there is kind of a FAIL!
So far you have only made yourself look stupid 😦
Looking at the list, what a boring life Shockadelic has (or is that his “culture”). Boring as fuck. I’m a white Australian, but you don’t speak for me, dumb arse.
you don’t understand him either…
Shockadelic like to use items owned or was brought to Australia mostly by overseas company?
Good on them!!!!
Also they should realise Members of ACDC were migrants from Scotland.
Err…fish and chips is British, AFL is probably a combination of Gaelic football and the ancient Aboriginal game of Margrook, Mel Gibson was born in New York and is a dual citizen, AC/DC spent most of their time touring as an international rock band – there is no racism in the music biz except for those few pathetic losers who peddle hate music, virtually everything you have mentioned has a variant in the UK, the US and several other countries.
Canned food was invented by the Americans as a way of feeding their soldiers and later on the cowboys on the trail.
Simple perhaps. Uniquely Australian, no. And do you know what? It doesn’t matter.
Yes i mean anti white ,hypocritically racist,cultural marxist grubs like you.
Are you trying to down play the White Australian culture?
You don’t know it because your probably not 1 of us.Sucks to feel like an outcaste in somebody elses country.(ps Dont try any of that ABoriginals were here first crap either, they were the 5th wave of immigrants to this continent, not the first.ps Ever heard of the Australian pygmies?Probably not because your a dickhead.
Members were migrants from Scotland like Jimmy Barnes.
ACDC Members were migrants from Scotland like Jimmy Barnes.
So what is this about hating Migrants?
“Simple perhaps. Uniquely Australian, no.”
I didn’t say these were ‘exclusive’, just examples of preference for simplicity.
“And do you know what? It doesn’t matter.”
To you.
Oh look, the blog has a new name.
Again.
Is this going to be a weekly occurence?
Maybe you should have a proper brainstorm (presuming each of you still has a functioning brain) and *decide* what the hell you want to call yourselves.
You don’t make a name for yourself without *a* name.
*snore*
boring…
TAB’s blog! TAB’s rules! …… 🙂 simple
Love it or L-E-A-V-E it..
Make ya own blog, change names hourly, see who gives a fuck?
Criticising the blog for changing its name. Seriously, that’s the best the white supremacist bogan trash movement can come up with? And your point was?
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! : “*snore*
boring…”
You took the words right out of my mouth.
M-Dawg!! “Love it or L-E-A-V-E it..”
Now where have I heard that before?
“Make ya own blog, change names hourly, see who gives a fuck?”
Nobody will give a fuck if I change the names hourly.
And the same goes here.
What are people going to tell their friends?
I found this site called “antibogan”, no “Full of Racists”, no “UnAustralian”, no “Anti-racism anti-sexism anti-discrimination” (could you get more generic?), oh never mind.
BTW, I tried this great drink, called Coca-Cola, no Coka-Cobo, no Cola-Kobi, no Coki-Loki, no Cobo-Loco, oh never mind, have a Pepsi.
Why Why: “Criticising the blog for changing its name.”
Again and again and again.
“Seriously, that’s the best the white supremacist bogan trash movement can come up with?”
There’s a movement now?
“And your point was?”
I believe the “point” was already stated.
Burrrrp!! You heard that before from your ilk, insecure scary little white supremacists.
Fuck off! shock stupid cunt, you’re wasting time & space. Get off ya arse & do something about what ever fuck is bothering you. And then you will receive the consequences.., you can deal with them, because you think you are fucking ‘know it all’ ‘got it all right’, you can fight ya battle successfully if that is the case.
Try it, see what happens.
Threats from a moron.
Takes one to know one 🙂 ey?
Shockadelic: Nobody will give a fuck if I change the names hourly. And the same goes here. Clearly YOU gave so much of a fuck that you had to comment on it. Or is your hypocrisy so ingrained that you don’t realise you’re demonstrating it? Again and again and again?
Shockadelic: There’s a movement now? A pathetic one which will never speak to the majority of Australians. Thankfully. There’s a website (clearly doesn’t get as much attention as this one), and protests of four people. And a representative called Shockadelic who doesn’t seem to have much to do except write one thousand word essays on this site, and then does word counts and complain about the length of posts other people put on this site (oh, have I mentioned that you are a hypocrite?).
Whatever happened to wanting to change people’s minds diretcly (sic) and influencing the passersby on this website Shocky? You changed that one didn’t you? Whatever happened to providing debate because all the poor communists on this site have the same opinion? Oh wait, you changed that one too. What other retard excuse are you going to come up with for spending so much time on this site? What are you going to change it to next?
And then because you’ve run out of ammunition, you criticise this website for changing (its name)?
Have I mentioned how much of a hypocrite you are? 😀 😀 😀
I am so pleased to have discovered this blog. Public naming and shaming – what a wonderful and simple idea! I certainly hope that featured individuals step back and rethink their opinions. It is a rare occasion that I would use my real name to post on a website (I do like so have some modicum of ‘net privacy) but here I am absolutely proud to display my name and say: “I support the anti-bogan blog”.
I have lived abroad for a couple of years now and one of the reasons I have a disinterest in returning to Aus is the intensely racist culture there. Of course, I have seen local racism in every place I’ve travelled but I find the racism in Australia to be particularly rampant. Not to mention baseless – Australia is a country made up of immigrants and descendents of immigrants. It makes no sense!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for trying. I think it’s an uphill battle (like trying to get Australians to stop smashing each other in the faces with glasses or punching each other up while drunk) but I’m just happy you’re out there giving it a go.
Farking TRAITOR.
“Public naming and shaming – what a wonderful and simple idea! ”
Be careful what you wish for.Eyes could be on YOU.
Sure you have nothing to be ashamed of ?
You better hope you don’t .
Anybody can dig up peoples past bitch.
Guess what/
KHARMA IS A BITCH,BITCH.
It’s spelled Karma, bitch.
John J Jigaboo (12:24:48) : fake profile?
A ass is a donkey like hoof animal, so are you saying others should take it up the animal?
LOL
By the way abuse is a sign of weakness from those scare and stupid to debate the issue.
can I email you some screanshots that I think belong here?
Just letting you know. Your disclaimer doesnt protect you. You have identified people associated with issues who have said positve things. They can at law now proceed to a legal action against you. For fun I’ve decidede to contact everyperson I can identify from your page and tell them to immediately seek legal advice.
It’s like offending someone but thinking its ok by saying I dont mean to be rude but……..
You have you’re rights but so do other people.
“You have identified people associated with issues who have said positve things.”
Hi Jamie. You would make a wonderful lawyer! Imagine defending a guy who murdered a child saying that he hadn’t done anything wrong because he had donated money to charities and volunteered in the SES.
“They can at law now proceed to a legal action against you.”
They made public comments. What legal rationale are they going to pursue, Jamie? That we fabricated their comments? A Facebook subpoena should handle that one. That we defamed them by published the very same comments that they published? Well that’s a bit dense, isn’t it?
“It’s like offending someone but thinking its ok by saying I dont mean to be rude but…….”
No it’s not. It’s like dancing naked in the street and then getting upset when people look at you. What people choose to do in the public sphere is up to them. But how it is interpreted by said public is out of their control.
“You have you’re rights but so do other people.”
How do I know you’re a hopeless faux-intellect, racism/sexism apologist? Because you stand up for them, and you can’t use ‘your/you’re’ in the correct context.
You fail. Go away.
Another bush lawyer. You know nothing. Your “legal advice” does not meet the non-trivial test.
this website should be shut down. you’re just as bad as the ‘racists’. your targetting of bogans could be classified as racism too
No it couldn’t. Go away dope.
Yes it can dopey.Now you go away or ill educate you and you will be a bogans bitch.Freak.
Just found this…. great site…Name and shame!
With sites like this, coupled with proper education and pro-active solutions (although I dont see this coming from the government who seem to inflame racism to win the bogan majority vote) we can hopefully make inroads.
Although I despair – as these bogans eventually have children generation after generation will become brainwashed with their uneducated racist rhetoric
oh shut up idiot its new age inbreds like you thats kill australia as we know it there no real aussie know thanks to the foreigners
How sad your life must be now.
And, uh… where were your people from? Oh, unless you’re Indigenous?
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.(something i was taught when i was old enough to talk to others.)
Grow up you so called anti racist grubs.You are the racists here.You all support the white genocide policy which is the multi”CULT”ural policy.(For you smarties please allow me to explain it using the UN and Geneva convention meanings.Forced non white immigration into all white communities and only white communities is Genocide , it does not allow us whites a living space of our own.So seeing as we Aussies never voted for the multiculturalism policy(to which was not wanted when first introduced by way of stealth nor is it wanted now)it is a forced policy which is what the Un and Geneva conventions call GENOCIDE.Look it up you bloody fools.
Stop the Asianisation of Australia.
(ps a large percentage of asians and other non whites come from NZ and Britain, not to mention they make up the bulk of all immigrants as a whole.Also asians have been the largest settlers here since 1982/83.So to those who think we are n ot being taken over by asians, one only needs to open their bloody eyes and see it for yourself.)
This website is rubbish and against freedom of speech.
You people need to build a bridge and get the fark over it you sensitive self serving white guilt tripped morons.
Ill give you an example of your idiocy.
You so called anti racist multiculturalists dont even realise you are destroying the Aboriginal race through inbreeding,mongrelisation.Multiculturalism is doing to the Aborigines exactly what the colonialists wanted to do to them.Breed them out of existance.The colonialists couldnt do it but you multiculturalists are sure doing 1 good job of doing it.For example you fools, when white man first came to Australia, the Aboriginal population was estimated to be anywhere from 150,000 to around 300,000 pure bred Aborigines.They are now over 500,000.Only around 40,000 pure blooded Aborigines exist.Thats right over 450,000 so called Aborigines have white,asian,polynesian,melanesian,etc blood in them.That to me is genocide of the ABoriginal people.Estimated time before the full bloods die out?Round 40yrs or so at the rate they interbreed.Bye Bye the different Aboriginal cultures.
If you people are so not racist, then why dont you ask News Limited for a European all star side to play against the Aboriginal all star side or the Polynesian all star side or the Melanesian all star side or even the asian, negro,middle eastern semite all star side.Why be racist?
I also notice how you only include WHITE racists..pmsl.Thats racist in itself.I notice you dont have the youtube video of the Middle Easterners rapping to the song wogs all over sydney and threatening white Aussies, you know like they were allowed to do after the Cronulla riots,like burn churches, bash any white person they seen ,many hospitalised and allowed to do so by the police.Car loads going through Sydney waging wanto damage.Unlike the 2 or 3 middle easterners who had a couple of bruises after being attacked by Aussies.
Some fun facts about the Cronulla riots for those that don’t know.
1)The Cronulla riots were attended by asians, islanders, Aboriginals etc etc .
2)It was a black Aboriginal fellow who lead the f off lebs chant.
3)It was a black islander who was arrested for wearing a mohamed f’s camels tshirt.
lol, so much for it being a white riot huh.
Off course does this website ever talk about the treatment white Aussies receive from the non white minorities?
Whites are more likely to be a victim of a race hate crime, not non white minorities.
We white Aussies got the blame for the Indian student attacks when it wasnt even us , it was middle easterners, negros,Aborigines and even Indians themselves who were attacking them.
Who the fark do you hypocritical racist ,genocidal maniacs think you are?
You darn ill informed fools who support multi”cult”uralism are actually supporting the very death, extinction,genocide of the DIVERSITY you all claim to embrace.Such is your blind bloody ignorance.
Your cultural marxist educators have taught you all well.
ps Why do the schools teach our white children to feel guilty about past wrongdoings of their forebares(holocaust,slavery,colonialism,stolen generations,Indian massacres etc etc etc ) and not the non whites past wrongdoings?
IE There were more white slaves in America than white slaves, blacks also owned white slaves, the father of American slavery was a black man, not white.(JOhn Casor), matter of fact it was the semite Jews who brought the majority of slaves to America not whites.They owned 11 out of the 12 major slaves boats.Matter of fact, between the negros and Jews they both owned the majority of slaves.75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.Yet we get the whole blame for it.
ps I can prove everything ive said here for anybody wanting to know more.
SAY NO TO WHITE GUILT and cultural marxist grubs educatiing your white children.
They are child abusers, teaching your white children to feel guilty for non white minorities and teaching black children to hate white people for past wrong doings and not teaching them the truth about their own peoples past.
Go read the Fabrication of Aboriginal History by Kieth WIndshuttle at the syndey line website for the lies they teach.Blaming us for Aboriginal massacres that whites had nothing to do with.
Anyway i thought id post the facts for you darn multiculturalist fools, just to piss you off.Cant beat the facts.Thats why i stick to them.
“…it does not allow us whites a living space of our own…”
Oh no!
“…we Aussies never voted for the multiculturalism policy…”
Nor did we vote for any of the laws that currently exist in our society. Democratically elected political parties form policy based on what’s in the nation’s best interests, while gauging public opinion in order for re-election.
“…call GENOCIDE.Look it up you bloody fools.”
Genocide:
“noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.”
Sorry, but nobody is dying, therefore there’s no genocide occurring.
“…blah blah blah, ‘Asianisation’ etc…”
There are over 4 billion Asians in the world. There are 22 million Australians. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more of them, sorry.
“…blah blah blah you’re killing the Aboriginals…”
Hopefully you’re not being serious. White European settlers practically inflicted genocide on the Aboriginal people 200 odd years ago. Aboriginals now make up less than 3% of our population. As for saying ‘bye bye’ to the Aboriginals, they largely have a different idea of what sustaining a culture involves. The culture and history of the Aboriginal people is structurally resilient and stronger than ever. It has survived over 40,000 years without the need for books or computers.
“If you people are so not racist, then why dont you ask News Limited for a European all star side to play against the Aboriginal all star side or the Polynesian all star side or the Melanesian all star side or even the asian, negro,middle eastern semite all star side.Why be racist?”
I don’t remember personally asking News Limited for this competition. It was created to acknowledge the growing presence of Indigenous players in our game. While Indigenous peoples make up less than 3% of our population, they still managed to win last year’s game.
The authors of this blog are white Australians. We are embarrassed at the actions of those who represent us. We are also part of the dominant culture where racism and discrimination is more prevalent.
“Some fun facts about the Cronulla riots for those that don’t know.
1)The Cronulla riots were attended by asians, islanders, Aboriginals etc etc .
2)It was a black Aboriginal fellow who lead the f off lebs chant.
3)It was a black islander who was arrested for wearing a mohamed f’s camels tshirt.
lol, so much for it being a white riot huh.”
Never have I had so much ‘fun’ reading garbage ‘facts’ and untruths.
“Whites are more likely to be a victim of a race hate crime, not non white minorities.”
Completely untrue. Statistically disproven.
“We white Aussies got the blame for the Indian student attacks when it wasnt even us , it was middle easterners, negros,Aborigines and even Indians themselves who were attacking them.”
That is not racism, nor is it institutionalised racism.
“You darn ill informed fools who support multi”cult”uralism are actually supporting the very death, extinction,genocide of the DIVERSITY you all claim to embrace.Such is your blind bloody ignorance.”
You’re not very smart, are you?
“ps Why do the schools teach our white children to feel guilty about past wrongdoings of their forebares(holocaust,slavery,colonialism,stolen generations,Indian massacres etc etc etc ) and not the non whites past wrongdoings?”
Untrue. Have you had a look at any Syllabus documents recently?
“ps I can prove everything ive said here for anybody wanting to know more.”
ROFLMFAO
“They are child abusers, teaching your white children to feel guilty for non white minorities and teaching black children to hate white people for past wrong doings and not teaching them the truth about their own peoples past.”
Please read some Syllabus documents.
“Go read the Fabrication of Aboriginal History by Kieth WIndshuttle at the syndey line website for the lies they teach.Blaming us for Aboriginal massacres that whites had nothing to do with.”
Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.
“Anyway i thought id post the facts for you darn multiculturalist fools, just to piss you off.Cant beat the facts.Thats why i stick to them.”
I didn’t see any facts in your post.
Thats because you are a certified fuckwit.
Prove any of it wrong why dont you stupid.
Go on AMAZE ME.
I didn’t see many facts – just your opinions. Do you know the difference? I did see a few suspect statistics however…:
“75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.”
Where did these stats come from? And why do they add up to 115%?
Pfft.
you’ve just proven how stupid you are right there TAB. The fact that those numbers add up to 115% is irrelevant as each one referes to a different data set.
Pfft yourself dipshit. Commies can’t do maths apparently.
Perhaps if Dingo was able to express his statistics clearly and logically, and with some kind of tagged reference, then the statistics would have been easier to understand.
Gotta love the ‘facts’ according to ‘Dingo’ …. Quality reading if ever you’re in need of some bowel relief 🙂
Facts are facts, wanna see them dopey dora?
Or do you just want to play court jester?
Go on stupid ask me to prove something i have said.
let me show you how to use your god damn literal,lateral,logical,critical,common sense thinking brain moron.
I would just like to say thank you. This website is a prime example of how we Australians fall short in our compassion and understanding.
Hey stupid, Tolerance is the last virtue of a decaying society.
Good god you cultural marxists are stupid.
Fair suck of the sav.
Great site guys… The funniest thing is reading how the racist bogans squirm and scamper for cover once their pathetic rants are outed to the wider community, away from their white bred world and moronic ‘mates’…. Keep up the great work 🙂
Who is scampering for cover john you racist hypocrit?
Come on be my debate bitch…lmfwao.
Ah the closet door just opened and Dingo sashayed out…
First of all, I have to say that this website is completely outrageous. It is an absolute breach of privacy, and in terrible taste. It is intimidating to think how little respect there is for privacy in todays society. I am in no way condoning the racist or sexist comments made by the people who have been exploited and exposed on this website. I also do not condone the exploiters – YOU.
Secondly, as far as Facebook is concerned, all of the information that a user uploads on his/her facebook page is owned by that user. So, one can only assume that, when you obtained the status updates to post all over the internet for all to see, you did so legally….perhaps you purchased the information for a small sum? Or you traded it for a “get out of jail free” card in future racist-status-updating fiasco’s? But of course, you did ask permission, right?
And lastly, who could forget this one. The good ole 1948 Declaration of human rights which state….and I will quote here, “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” So what does that mean for you? Well, friend, it means that I can be a racist if I want to (I don’t, mind you – but I could if I wanted) and there is nothing that you can do about it! There now! Doesn’t that make you feel unimportant? Well news flash for you, you ego-inflated do-gooder(s), you ARE unimportant. Go away and leave the bogans alone. If they all get sacked, who will pave the roads?
95% of the screenshots posted on our blog are from PUBLIC Facebook fan pages and groups. The other 5% belong to people who have been exposed by other websites (eg. pwsnt.com) and have left their profiles open to the public.
Thank you for quoting the 1948 Declaration of Human Rights. Here are some more quotes from it:
Article 1.
* All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
* Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
* Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 7.
* All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 14.
* (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
* (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 18.
* Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
# (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
Your next task is to find the current documents in Australia relating to Anti Discrimination, Racial Discrimination and violations of the Telecommunications Act (particularly the section where it states the illegality of using a carrier service to harass/intimidate on the basis of gender/sexuality/race/religion/disability.
I noticed you conveniently left out the Un and Geneva convention terms for genocide.
Are you a complete mug or just trying to suit your own argument?
Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948.
Article 1
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.
Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
* (a) Killing members of the group;
* (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
* (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
* (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
* (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
hey Jane stop being a politically correct moron and apologising for things there is no need to apologise for.
hey Jane while your apologising for non white behaviour your white daughters are being gang raped.
White Bogan and proud, at least we bogans have a brain unlike you stupid lib eral white guilt tripped scum.
Yes we bogans not only built this country but we ALSO BUILT OUR ROADS.
pERHAPS YOU SHOULD FUCK OFF TO COMMUNIST CHINA OR DICTATORIAL SHIP ISRAEL.TRAITOR.
I forgot – white people don’t rape other people’s daughters. How silly of me to think that.
Why doesnt tab the coward have a reply button?
In answer to the moron, try c,d,e.
pffft i eat dumb racist hypocrits like you for breakfast.
White people rape other [peoples daughters but your more likely to be raped by a non white,per capita.You know what per capita means dont you dopey?
Non whites are grooming young white females into sex industry.White people are not grooming young non white females into the sex industry.
Are you aware of the massive scale that white women are being raped across the world?No i didnt think so your a racist hypocrit thats why.Sweden,Germany,SA,Australia,England etc are all facing massive non white male on white female rapes.How bout Switzerland where 90% of their gaol inmates are non white?yet they are minority.
Would you like to see some doj figures ,you marxist grub?
1. You are WRONG.
2. When information is on a public site it is public. TAB does not copy and paste comments and attempt to deceive readers about their provenance for its own profit. THAT would be breach of copyright, plagiarism, intellectual property theft etc.
3. You can be a racist if you want to. It won’t do much for your social life or get you a job but if you feel a burning passion for the precursor to genocide then go hard lady. Except do it in private, behind closed doors, silently and without minors being present.
4. You are STLL WRONG.
So when we find out who you people are and the beliefs you hold which disgusts Australians ,you wont mind when we expose you lot for all to see, maybe even pay you a visit, lets face it we know where you are.Cowardly marxist grubs.
Its all public as you say, so when a gang of bogans pay you a visit because they do not like your beliefs, well hey, whats good for the geese is good for the ganders.
Quote Jane: “It is intimidating to think how little respect there is for privacy in todays society.”
So if a pedophile and his pedophile posse were to get rumbled with their misadventures because they ‘forgot’ to keep their privacy settings on maximum then that’s ok but not if ppl are bagging the disadvantaged, different ethnic and religious groups, gender or making jest of flood victims then it’s justified? Breaking the law is breaking the law. We need to be held accountable for what we say and do. Education not legislation, honey.
P.S Where are your principles Jane? Don’t pretend to stand by them if you can’t uphold them.
Would love to chat with the writers.
They can contact me at the email or website listed and will establish my credentials from there.
Cheers.
Sam
I found this web site to be an interesting read but I did have a couple of concerns.
The main one being that the ‘about us’ section is blank? Obviously I understand that you can’t give out your home address or anything but nothing at all?
Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?
Why only the focus on racism from whites & not other ethnic groups?
“Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?”
Does it matter?
“Why only the focus on racism from whites & not other ethnic groups?”
This question has been answered many times before on here. If you feel that there is enough anti-white racism in the social media, by all means – make your own blog.
When I pee it hurts. I wish my penis wasn’t so infected.
I like this site, im so sick of the awful discrimination i see & hear by some aussies these days. I was born in England but grew up in Australia. Im blonde, blue eyed and white and i have been told (when i point out that im an immigrant) that its ok coz i “look & sound australian”!! The only thing i don’t agree with is that these ppl are being labelled “bogans”. I can think of many words to describe these ppl (bigoted, xenophobic, prejudiced, sectarians, even chauvinistic pigs!) but i dont think bogan is right. I have always considered myself a bit of a bogan as i love heavy metal and wear a lot of black as does my hubby but i would absolutley hate to be placed the same catagory as these kind of ppl. I know a lot of bogans and non-bogan types and the strong undercurrent of racisim&sexism in this country spans all types of people from all walks of life.
Your just a stupid pommy twit.
Meanwhile muslims are taking lover Britain.
Bloody fool.
You just like to try to offend ppl but you just made me laugh. Funny, funny guy Dingdong or was it Drongo? hahha Im a funny, funny Gal!! But seriously – Lighten up dude.
Also, your spelling is terrible. Ever heard of spell check? Calling people “dope” and “fool” is so old school and uncool.
yeh but some of us are heaps busy and just type our msg straight on the website. No time to do spell-check”. Also, who care, we all know what we are saying!
Mate, regarding the admission of being a “bogan” but that you are not a “racist”, why have you done this? This gives them idiots fuel.
Fir starters, have you seen what their descriptions/definitions of what a “bogan” is. Not nice – almost “Hitleresque” but in an alternate timeline where he spent life in and out of prison and never bothered to stimulate his mind.
Second, you should NEVER let the twits who made this site believe that even you yourself [an actual in-the-flesh “bogan”] accept that a “bogan”, whatever that is to you, is actually “RACIST”.
Read some of my posts, see if I can’t convince you that it is not the “poor white Anglos” [i.e. “bogans”] that are racist at all or bad people in any sense whatsoever. In fact, by proving that these “middle-class” leftists such as the ones on this site are extremely “class-bigoted” but for some reason they only openly admit this about the poor of their own ethnic race – “Anglos”.
In any case, I think that once it is proven that they treat the lower class whites with utter contempt and disgusting bullying tactics; then the logic of the situation carries itself automatically to also prove that they feel just as hateful towards and wish to mock just as much maybe more, the Australian aborigines, N & S American Indians, 80% at least of Asia, 100% of Africa and Middle-East.
Like to avoid questions? Ah, way to stick to the stereotype.
Please find the following evidence to support your claims against this website:
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are racists;
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are discriminatory;
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are bogans;
* examples of where we’ve said that all bogans are white.
You’ve got nearly 700 posts to peruse at our website. Good luck!
I have just left Australia to live permanently in France. The attitudes expressed above are the same here. There are lots of people from less well off EU countries looking for work in countries that are better off financially. Many people feel threatened. This is not new – neither in Australia or here. We just have to accept that there is far more mobility in the workforce now than in the past.
And that is not going to change any time soon. Those who don’t like this can leave the planet. Last I heard the moon was looking distinctly empty…
Ha ha!
yes we are aware that muslims and negros regularly burn down your churches and have over 300 race riots a year in France, thanks for reminding the multicult idiots.
I see you live in the UK. Do you know many Muslims in Australia?
Oh yeah France another country being taken over by muslims and non whites.What a disgrace France is.
How many towns and cities did the muslims burn last year?Over 300 wasnt it?
Hey although your site does point out the obvious that no doubt where ever you go there will be racism of varying level, your aggressive nature could be misinterpreted as a group with a axe to grind. You are highlighting a minority of people and probably to some extent exacerbating racial problem. Some positive post would help. I see racism everywhere and it rarely from one side. The human race is leaps and bounds ahead of where it used to be (and has a long way to go). We have only got this far more so because of people who have the courage and lead by positive example and action not negative and aggressive approaches. There is good and bad in everyone, it’s the others around us that influence how we develop and grow, hate and aggression no matter what the intention will just promote the same. Couldn’t bogan be considered a racial slur as it is all relative. I regard myself as someone lucky enough to be resident of planet earth for a brief moment in time and related to all other life not just human. We are treating other residents of this planet far worse than we are treating each other in the human race. How we humans waste this fantastic opportunity to be alive for this brief moment in time
There’s a few positive posts intertwined into our site. Just have a look through.
Ian, the majority ,yes the majority of Aussies are against multiculturalism, always have been always will be.\
Why talk lies?
Got the poll results and statistics to back that up?
In the Scanlon Foundation’s
Mapping Social Cohesion survey in 2010, the proportion of people who considered that the immigration intake in
Australia is ‘too high’ rose to 47 per cent, a 10 per cent increase since the previous year. On the other hand, the
survey also revealed broad support for a non-discriminatory approach to immigration, with approximately 70
per cent of respondents taking an attitude that was either positive or neutral towards immigrants from various
ethnic backgrounds.
Whilst 47% isnt a “majority” it’s mighty close.
You mean the majority of bogan morons like yourself dont you ?.. You know, the ones who crack a boner every time they think of the ‘White Australia’ policy… Pity us ‘wogs’ came along and ruined your redneck paradise lol.
A poll conducted by the Daily telegraphed a few days ago suggests 80% of aussies think multiculturalism has failed.
Polls conducted when the multiculturalism policy was introduced by way of stealth as well as polls conducted after the Cronulla riots suggest most aussies do not want multiculturalism.
The scanlon report is left winged biased.
Newspaper polls aren’t valid as they do not take a sample of the population. They rely on people influenced enough to ring up and cast their vote.
there is no such thing as the human race.Only the Human races.
Thats why i can tell you what colour the human races are yet you cannot tell me what colour the human race is.
Good god you cultural marxist educated morons are dumb.
hi, have to say even though I have taught in Indigenous schools and communities I am still shocked but some of the outrageous beliefs and comments that exist in Australia and not just for Indigenous people of course but any sort of minority. How great is it that that guy has lost his job etc? well done for highlighting his beyond disgusting behaviour in public! just wanted to say keep up the good work xxx
Traitors will be tried for treason.
You are 1 of them.
:psing your job over your beliefs?
You sure about that stupid?
What are your beliefs ?
Dont say your not racist because everybody is, including yourself,
Nature makes it that way dopey.
Nature sure made you dopey…
Quote Dingbat: “Traitors will be tried for treason.”
R O F L!
Quote Dingbat: “…the majority ,yes the majority of Aussies are against multiculturalism”
L M A O!
Dingbat: “…there is no such thing as the human race”
PA HA HA!
Quote Dingbat: “Dont say your not racist because everybody is, including yourself… Nature makes it that way”
L M F A O!
Are you selling tickets or touring Australia soon? My friends and I have had a hard day surfing and now we’re having a few lazy beers and having a gleeful time analysing your comments. You’re a great comic! Love your work mate! Cheers!
The Aboriginals are embracing their own racial genocide.
Take a look at the low iqd abos, they say they love their culture while the majority of them breed outside of it.Hypocrits.Just like this website.
Abos are lazy thats why they are in the predicament they are in.Not because of us whites.
We have doubled their life expectancy, give them free houses, food, education,jobs specifically for them, yet they still whinge.
Lol very nice site, theres quite a few intelligent posts too, which is good to see. It’s actually quite interesting to see that these people, who hate on those of non-white background and those that do not speak english, are the ones who can’t spell to save their lives.
Don’t get me wrong though, I’m Asian and i love Australia. I guess racism is something that exists everywhere? It DOES happen in countries in Asia, where Caucasians are the minority group. But then again, people with these racist views and attitude in Australia are a minority. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Australia shouldn’t be seen as a racist country as a result of what these people say, because the majority of Aussies are awesome 😀
Go back to asia , asians are the most racist people on the planet.
Lol i’d bet you’re a tough guy aren’t you? Asians are the most racist people? Which do you hear more of? White gangs picking on other races and ethnics, or asian gangs picking on whites?
Before you call asians racist again, bite your fucking tongue and think about the shit that comes out of your throat kid, because you’re gonna choke on it someday.
Doing exactly what you say “Bogans” do. Taking information from means unknown then using just the parts required then play judge jury and executioner well done congrats its ARSEHOLES like you that have taken away the right to freedom of speech. P.S DONT FORGET TO TWIST THIS TO MAKE A RACIST SLANT. Finally if i was that guy that got sacked i’d have your arse in court for anything i could even breach of copyright as you steal others words without permittion or concent…..
“…well done congrats its ARSEHOLES like you that have taken away the right to freedom of speech.”
No, freedom of speech is still around. It’s been against the law to discriminate on the basis of race/religion since around 1970.
Freedom of speech does not exist in Australia.
hate speech has only been around recently ,added by the genocidal maniac cultural marxists.
Who are you trying to kid moron?
The Racial Discrimination Act came into effect in 1970.
The Anti Discrimination Act came into effect in 1977.
The Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act – 1986.
25 – 40 years old.
What a brain wave lol… Trying to sue your way out of trouble would be a good way of deflecting attention away from your massively moronic behaviour…I’m surprised Mensa hasnt heard of you…
Its r soles like us Whites we have freedom of speech.
blacks,asians,jews hate free speech.
We dont fear what you say stupid, you fear what we say.\
fucking scaredy cat.
“Finally if i was that guy that got sacked i’d have your arse in court for anything i could even breach of copyright as you steal others words without permittion or concent…..”
Lol I don’t think you can copyright a passing remark/comment that you make on the internet, if my knowledge of the law doesn’t fail me.
An interesting point, the Constitution doesn’t actually state that we have the freedom of speech, it’s just an implied right that everyone assumes to have.
“75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.”
Where did these stats come from? And why do they add up to 115%?
Pfft.
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Are you a completely stupid marxist moron?Do you not understand proper English?
75% of the Jewish population of America owned slaves.35% of the negro population of America owned slaves, 0.5% of Americas white population owned slaves,What part of that do you not understand?
Do you know that in America, 37000 white women are raped by black men annually, only 10 black women are raped by white men annually.Would you like to compare per capita rates dopey dora?
Whats with the 115% stupid, where did that pop out of, your rear end?
“IE There were more white slaves in America than white slaves, blacks also owned white slaves, the father of American slavery was a black man, not white.(JOhn Casor), matter of fact it was the semite Jews who brought the majority of slaves to America not whites.They owned 11 out of the 12 major slaves boats.Matter of fact, between the negros and Jews they both owned the majority of slaves.75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.Yet we get the whole blame for it.”
You were NOT clear when you first gave your statistics, NOR did you reference them. Where did you get the statistics from?
“Do you know that in America, 37000 white women are raped by black men annually, only 10 black women are raped by white men annually.”
Where did you get these statistics from?
“Whats with the 115% stupid, where did that pop out of, your rear end?”
Read your initial post again. 75% + 35% + 5% = 115%.
Ill be back tomorrow, if you truelly want to know the answer email me.As in anybody else that wants to know.Those figures are from the American DOJ figures by the way.
Learn to comphend.
35% of the American negro pop powned slaves.75% of the American jew pop owned slaves.0.5% of the White pop of America owned slaves.
Now again stupid, tell me how it comes to 75%plus35% plus 0.5% equals 115% .Do you not comprehend the term per capita?Going by your own figures it would be 110.5% not 115%.Stupid idiot.
Between the jews and negros, they owned the majority of slaves in America, theyn also owned plenty of white slaves owning so many white slaves it was outlawed not once but twice.White slaves were worth around 5 silver dollars negros around 40 .
Ill be back tomorrow as i have to gto to bed to get up for work tomorrow.
Ill be more than happy to answer question then or in email.
happy ruth hunting.
Oh dear…
“IE There were more white slaves in America than white slaves, blacks also owned white slaves, the father of American slavery was a black man, not white.(JOhn Casor), matter of fact it was the semite Jews who brought the majority of slaves to America not whites.They owned 11 out of the 12 major slaves boats.Matter of fact, between the negros and Jews they both owned the majority of slaves.75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.Yet we get the whole blame for it.”
* You said (initially) 5% of white people.
* You made no clear assertion that you were referring to per capita figures within America.
* You still haven’t linked us to where those statistics came from.
Goodnight baby.
I wonder how the Indigeneous people felt, when the First Fleet arrived and their land got taken over quite forcefully. Hmmm, thats something to think about, for those who are whinging about other races coming over to Australia.
How do you think those before the aborigines felt getting their land stolen by the aborigines forcefully ?
They did the same to other tribes.Even eating other Aboriginal tribes.
What do you say about that part of ABoriginal history dope?
Some aboriginal tribes had the mathmatical marriage system.more violent and backwards than the muslim systems.
Some Aboriginal tribes were not only canniblaistic but had such customs as knocking the teeth out pf the 5yr male children to warn them of the female folk.Then smashed the penises of the 9yr males to further warn them of the male elders female folk/.
Want to talk about aboriginal customs.///lmfwao
I’m sorry, I didn’t realise that you were around 40,000 years ago to judge the cultural practices of the time.
Where is your proof Aborigines were here 40,000 years ago first?
For example they can date Aborigina rock paintings back 40,000 years but they cannot date the White rock paintings found here in Australia(Hawkesbury river area).They also cannot date the Egyptian rock paintings as well.
So how come they can date Aboriginal rock paintings but not the white and Egyptian rock paintings?
Yeah we know why because Aborigines as we know them have only been here for around 1000 years not 40,000.
Did you know that the Tasmanian Aboriginals were not related biologically to the indian,asian aborigines from the mainland?
Yet they get reparations for them.
Thats like germans getting reparations for the holocaust instead of jews.
You’re hilarious.
hey TAB,
I really admire what you’re seeking to do with your website. You guys seem really smart and I guess I just want to know what you guys think makes someone racist.
does it mean thinking ur better than people from other races?
or generally finding people you’ve met from certain backgrounds annoying?
or just generalising about other races?
can u just not make comments about other races anymore?
I don’t want to be racist. But how can you avoid that if you have certain opinions?
Is it wrong to not like the way Australia has changed as a result of immigration?
Is it wrong to not want immigration?
Or as Australians do we just have to accept this kind of change to conform with ‘Australian culture’?
I note that these aren’t my personal views, i’m just trying to figure out where the boundaries are of acceptable opinions.
I don’t believe in uninhibited free speech – hateful speech leads to disatrous consequences (e.g. WWII) and just a less happy society.
But at the same time, from what I gather from the comments above, there appear to be a lot of frustrated people with opinions who are sick of being told they can’t have a certain opinion. Where are the boundaries?
“Is it wrong to not like the way Australia has changed as a result of immigration?”
It depends. Do you not like it because you see more Asians than you did before?
Australia should always be a majority WHITE country.
Got a problem with that, tell the asians thier countries should take in tens of millions of negros, mexicans, whites, middle easterners etc etc into their countries like all white countries and only white countries are forced to do.
You anti white racist hypocrit.
Please proofread.
Free speech is free speech, even the hateful speech.
if you do not like free speech then get out of our country ,soon we will get rid of these disgusting anti freedom hate speech laws.
Seriously whats the difference between calling someone a black cunt or just a cunt.?
Come on geniuses are both not hate speech?yet only 1 will get you charged.Why?
mary, Only true blue Aussies know Aussie culture tthese cultural marxist misfits are cowardly anti white genocidal maniacs.
We are gunning for these cowardly fucks.meaning we are washing away their white guilt tripped ideals with the truth and they hate it ,thats why they want to ban what we say.
Free speech to these cowardly anti white racist marxist grubs is like kryptonite was to superman.
They hate truth.
Wouldnt it be fair to say that you are discriminating against this poor bloke with a family because of the way he thinks? or the way he speaks? or even the way he conducts himself? If we lived in the tolerant society that you are trying to promote via this website, you should be able to tolerate his behaviour. But really… If i knew your name and did a bit of investigating, then rang your place of employment and started to dob on you, for a converstaion you had between your friends that I had just stumbled apon. How would you feel if your life was completeley destroyed because of my interpretation of what i had heard?
There are other avenues you could have taken. You have not been appointed by the internet to troll for people’s comments. Yes, this guy does need to be re-educted about different races and cultures. But it will only increase the hatred when ridiculous events like this happen and are made public.
Now, I have read a lot of comments here and it seems when one side doesnt like what you have written, it turns to name calling. So I am expecting to be called a bogan or whatever.
But when you start using your superior intellect to insult people on this forum, take note, you also look like bogans. Just the people you are tring so hard to not be like.
The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society. Political correctness charged censorship only serves to engender resentment and distance between social groups.
“Wouldnt it be fair to say that you are discriminating against this poor bloke with a family because of the way he thinks?”
No.
“If we lived in the tolerant society that you are trying to promote via this website…”
This website does not push tolerance of racists and sexists. It pushes people to speak up and say no.
“You have not been appointed by the internet to troll for people’s comments.”
And you have not been appointed as the supreme web editor, critiquing blogs like this when there are a plethora of websites far worse than this one around.
“But it will only increase the hatred when ridiculous events like this happen and are made public.”
We emailed the guy and offered our sympathy at him losing his job. His former employer needs to blamed though, not us. And he makes a fine example.
“Now, I have read a lot of comments here and it seems when one side doesnt like what you have written, it turns to name calling.”
Sometimes yeah. But it goes both ways and if names hurt you, fuck off arse clown.
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society.”
Imagine if hordes of people jumped online and created Facebook groups about how much of a whore your mother is. How tolerant would you be?
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society. Political correctness charged censorship only serves to engender resentment and distance between social groups.”
Quoted for truth.
they are only interested in racist whites, racist non whites get a free ride.
The anti white racist scumbags they are.
jokes are funny.
You know, i’m really not anti-white, but the more i read, the more i feel anti-YOU, Dingo. What point in your life did you become such a hateful person? Perhaps you should work on developing empathy.
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society.”
That was a quote that you obviously dont understand. It means that as you have stated :
“Imagine if hordes of people jumped online and created Facebook groups about how much of a whore your mother is. How tolerant would you be”
That tolerance is impossible. You have answered your own question.
And you don’t see the need for people to restrain themselves from acting that way?
If I can hold back from making generalist comments about taxi drivers, truck drivers and motorbike riders, then people can also hold back from making generalist comments about ethnicities and genders.
You would not be happy if a website opened up with pictures and jokes about your mother. Try the shoe on sometime.
You make a website about my mother, i make 1 about yours.
No problems.
Why worry unless what they were posting about your mother was truth?
“Why worry unless what they were posting about your mother was truth?”
Are you serious? That’s much worse. Imagine if someone made a website stating that your mother was a crack addicted whore working the streets of Sydney. You wouldn’t mind as you realised it wasn’t truth?
Boy, you’re more stupid than first thought.
This is a great site! Does anyone know if there is a similar site to name and shame bullies? Or if not what the legal status would be of hosting one since the majority would be school aged children?? So sick of hearing about friends childrens being bullied and seeing awful things written about them on facebook etc. Is definately something I would be interested in doing…
There are legal ramifications because the bullies are minors, so are their victims, and it could lead to unwanted scrutiny of you, but together you may be able to come up with a creative and hard-hitting solution.
Schools are very limited in what they can do. Individual teachers are constrained in the actions they can take to protect kids and to “out” the bullies, much as they would like to.
Schools should be able to work with police and quite frankly police are not always available to deal with problems which don’t generate revenue or brownie points for governments.
An initiative which involves parents may work.
Generalisations come from observed behaviour.
Still hate the truth you anti white racist pig?
As far as us being one race: We are not one “race”, but we are one species, Homo sapiens. The definitions are not always unanimous about classifications, but the differences are more than obvious. The American anthropologist Carleton S. Coon indicates five major races: Australoid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Capoid, Congoid. There are then subraces of those as well.
TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions. -G.K. Chesterton
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“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”-George Orwell
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“If the White men won’t battle for Life and Race. The women and children, the Terror will face…David Lane & Lamb Gaede
When Indians have identity it is called culture.
When Blacks have identity it is called pride.
When Semites (Jews) have identity it is called history.
When White People have identity it’s called racism!
– Cydonia
David Lane = convicted racist killer who is now dead thank fuck, except when Dingo wanks over the ashes – you do inhale them in your crack pipe sessions right?
Originator of the 14 farts which is basically an unhealthy Nazi paedophilic obsession with white children.
Lambe Gaede – little slapper exploited by her nutzi parents
*YAWN* …go away clown.
“Those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society [the mass media] constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of.”
– “Propaganda” by Edward Bernays
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Demond Washington, Athlete of the week, made the comment over the school PA that he hated whites and was going to kill [us] all.
after the scramble he
A. isn’t racist, just immature
B. didn’t know it was on
C. Is needed by the sports program
D. won’t even have his hand slapped
E. all of the above.
First, they ram hate crimes down our throat. Then they turn the cat around the other way and it’s only a bias crime, or immaturity whatever it takes that we get the message to shut up. There is a double standard and we’d better like it.
Where’s the ADL on this one?
14yr gets arrested for refusing to sit with non english speaking students because they were hindering her education.Say you hate whites and going to kill them all, you dont even get a slap on the wrist..wakey wakey whitey, this could have been your white daughter arrested or worse killed by the same negro who hates whites and wants to kill them.
twilight zone again]
In reply to this statement, what about the white girl whom was raped by a negro then forced to cheer for him ?
So a black guy was racist. That’s terrible I agree. Why don’t you start a website?
Nobody is argueing that only whites are racist. You posts prove nothing.
Tomorrow i will post the black on white rape figures and the racists calling for the deaths of white men,women and children.
Your cultural marxist hero nelson mandela the terrorist can be seen and heard on youtube singing KILL ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE.
Want to talk about racism you marxist cowardly grubs, im going to give it to you.
In the meantime check those links.
The tell us white folks why we should feel guilty.
Dingo,
Please save us all the pain, and stop posting these ridiculous comments. Not only do they make you sound closed minded and full of hate – and quite like a bullied, wanna-be political savant – they make you sound downright stupid. Let me quote you now: “White Bogan and proud, at least we bogans have a brain unlike you stupid liberal white guilt tripped scum.”
Please note that you made reference to MY lack of brain. You quickly followed this comment with another. I will quote you again here…
“When I pee it hurts. I wish my penis wasn’t so infected.” This certainly wasn’t what was discussed at any intellectual meeting I have ever attended. Maybe your brain isn’t quite as big as you think?
Maybe this is just the rant of a stupid little rookie boy pretending like some (probably somewhat illegal) website is the political big leagues….
And another thing. The statistics about 75% of Jews, 35% of negros, and 0.5 or 5% of whites do not add up to 115%, or 110.5%…or anything for that matter. Each statistic reflects the percentage of people who owned slaves in that particular population, not in the entire population. The statistics about the Jewish ownership of slaves relate only to the Jewish population in the US. It has nothing to do with any of the other numbers.
Now lastly, You said (oh, ok. I’ll quote you just once more) “hey Jane while your apologising for non white behaviour your white daughters are being gang raped.” Well, little rookie, it’s actually more likely that a white man will commit a sex crime than a black man. And there isn’t much daughter raping going on where I live, sorry about YOUR luck…..
I have to ask, do you really believe that being born black, or a muslim, or Chinese really means that you will be innately inferior to any who are “blessed” to be born white? Do you really believe that the black communities in America/Aboriginal communities in Australia/Native communities in Canada/African communities in Afrikaner South Africa/etc. are/were condemned to a life of poverty with no opportunity BECAUSE they were inferior? Or did they became a less able member of society based on the racist and seperatist actions taken by closed minded and uneducated white men. They therefore had to fight for their right to be educated and feed their children and use the toilet. Ok, say those statistics are correct….I doubt it, but I will humor you. So only 5% of white people in America ever had slave. I guess it doesn’t matter then that an entire race in South Africa was forced into small shanty towns without sufficient food, water or waste disposal systems and were forced to live in their own filth. Oh, South Africa is terrible isn’t it! With all those blacks running around?! Newsflash, rookie, the Afrikaners did it to themselves! You can only be the oppressor for so long, before it bites you in the butt. (See WWII and A. Hitler) Or what about the colonial era in Australia, when the black population was forced into slavery and assimilation in their own backyard? If you take the land, the most sacred thing, away from these people then what do you think will happen? They’ll put on a suit and tie and jump on the metro to their office job, marry a white woman, play golf on weekends, open a bible and pray to Christ? Ah, how innocent have been the white man. No, of course that won’t happen, so what should we do instead? Well, we should enforce abstinance! What else? Stop natural procreation and the progression of an entire population – or do your very best, anyway!
Listen, rookie, before you start preaching the innocence of the white man and condemn all other races to a life of poverty and violence, take a good long look at history. Nobody is innocent; nobody is completely at fault. Human nature is what causes crimes, not skin colour. And I don’t apologise to anyone for my behaviour or that of my predecessors. Because I don’t have to. I have never hurt anyone or made a fool of anyone, I have never judged someone based on anything except their morals, values, and personality (all of which it seems you lack). People like you (with slightly more power and probably money, but certainly intelligence) caused apartheid, racial wars, and the deaths of innocents all over the world. Wake up to yourself.
Jane you wake up to yourself.
Your the fool here,not i, everything i have stated is fact/truth.
Everything you stated is a mere politically correct,cultural marxist pissathon.
Im leaving now but will be back in an hour or so to answer your nonsense.
Stay tuned, same bat channel.
If we were a racially homogenus culture like we once was we would have no racism.
Multiculturalism is a genocide policy which breeds racism and cultural clashes.
Wake up to yourself you bloody idiot.
“Human nature is what causes crimes, not skin colour.”
No genetics does.As well as their upbringing.
…has this criminal gene been identified? & what would that be?
‘Upbringing’ certainly does, but not all black people are brought up the same way, not all white people are brought up the same way. So what is your point?
And another thing. The statistics about 75% of Jews, 35% of negros, and 0.5 or 5% of whites do not add up to 115%, or 110.5%…or anything for that matter. Each statistic reflects the percentage of people who owned slaves in that particular population, not in the entire population. The statistics about the Jewish ownership of slaves relate only to the Jewish population in the US. It has nothing to do with any of the other numbers.
(The numbers prove that jews and blacks owned the majority of lsvaes in America.)
And still waiting for the source of those statistics.
Note: Can’t Jews be whites?
now those black kids should be shot.
You’re a real hero.
Hey jane can you tell my why rich black communities commit more crimes than poor white communities?(As i will show tomorrow along with the other crime rate facts)
The same thing is happening in all white countries ken so what happens in America, Europe etc have everything to do with this issue.
Our Diggers fought for and died under the White Australia Policy ken, does that make them racist nazis who wanttokillsixmillionjews too?
You label me as a retard yet dan’t refute my postings.
So what does that make you?A complete bloody idiot ,thats what.
without wasting much time reply to a retard like dingo
can your next sad attempt at whatever you are trying to do have something to do with australia. coz all that i have seen, the 2-3 links i bothered going to briefly, its all about american shit. if u love american news so much move to fucking america and gtfo
TAB,
Iv’e seen the website about your mother that was opened up.
She tried Jenny Craig? Couldn’t hurt.
Get a grip, Racism is here and isn’t going anywhere.
It’s our country and we can Discriminate who ever we want.
Stop being Keyboard warriors and step into the real world for once instead of living in your little padded universe behind your stupid computers.
Kind Regards, Bogan.
Proudly wearing a southern cross tattoo and half an Anzac sleeve.
Wow you’ve got a small penis.
You know, even though I disagree with your website I thought that you conducted yourself in an excellent manor. But now, after reading your replies to comments that disagree with you, I find you to be nothing but rude and pathetic.
Obviously your trying the be the bigger person on your website, highlighting issues that you want to voice your opinion on, and that’s great but when you stoop to the very level that you are against it makes people lose respect for you.
Discrimination:unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice.
“Wow you’ve got a small penis.” – TAB
Yeah, real anti-discrimination, hey? Or does that only imply to every other race?
Cry me a river.
Sorry tab its not us white blokes with small penises…lmfwao.
THE DEFINITIVE PENIS SIZE SURVEY RESULTS
Surprisingly, it would appear from Figure 5, that contrary to popular myth, Black males
have shorter erect lengths than their Caucasian counterparts
Ludwig Wolf, who made a study of the physical anthropology of the Baluba tribe,
remarks that ‘As a general rule the male organ in its relaxed state is astonishingly strongly
developed;’ but he was informed by Negresses who had cohabited with both Negrids
and Europids that, when erect, the organ is of about the same size in the two races.
Topinard had claimed that though the penis of Europeans was smaller than that of Negrids
when flaccid, it was larger than theirs when erect.
Puts an end to the big black dick liberal fantasy.
What?
Link from One Nation….*YAWN*
Using correct sources.
FAIL!!!
Klan propaganda…*YAWN*
Using correct and proper sources.
FAIL!!!
Rense conspiracy website…*YAWN*
Now the games begin – which nutzi are you?
Using correct sources.
FAIL!!!
Yet people like you would use jewpedia, oops sorry wikipedia as a great source..lol….
Still cannot refute anything so resort to obfuscation.
Which part of the looney left are you a member of?
I don’t deal in games with cheats and liars like yourself.
Jeez you’re a spamming troll aren’t you?
No just posting relevant information about black on white racism.
Informing the white readers here just who are the racists.
Like that romper stomper watching aaron poster here thinking White Aussies go around bashing non whites willy nilly when in fact whites are the target of non white gangs.
Aaron said “I wonder how the Indigeneous people felt, when the First Fleet arrived and their land got taken over quite forcefully. Hmmm, thats something to think about, for those who are whinging about other races coming over to Australia.”
Yes, that is something to think about.
Perhaps you could take a few minutes to do so, before you stupidly revealing your own contradictions.
Displacement of Aborigines bad.
Displacement of White Australians good.
Me smart. Me Know-It-All.
“I don’t think you can copyright a passing remark/comment that you make on the internet, if my knowledge of the law doesn’t fail me.”
It fails you.
Everything published is copyrighted automatically.
You are the “author”.
It doesn’t matter where you publish it or how much content you “author”, you own the “work”.
Facebook also “owns” the actual published page displays.
TAB is copying these pages without Facebook’s or the work’s author’s permission.
Josh said “Kiss your white supremacist arse goodbye.”
Ever heard of “incitement to violence”, oh enlightened one?
You have now broken the law.
TAB: “Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?”
Does it matter?”
Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.
Unlike Name Removed, whose children now eat at the soup kitchen thanks to “The Anonymous Bitch”.
“Sorry, but nobody is dying, therefore there’s no genocide occurring.”
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or *in part*, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
Native-born Anglo-Celtic Australians have been reduced from about 90% of the population in the 1940s, to about 66% today and falling.
A group don’t have to be killed to be “destroyed in part”.
“There are over 4 billion Asians in the world. There are 22 million Australians. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more of them, sorry.”
“There are hundreds of millions Whites in the world. There are few hundred thousand Aborigines. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more Whites, sorry.”
Doesn’t sound so good now, eh?.
“Aboriginals now make up less than 3% of our population.”
And that was a good thing?
Because apparently the perpetual displacement of White Australians is something to celebrate.
“It has survived over 40,000 years without the need for books or computers.”
You mean they never thought to invent a written alphabet.
“Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.”
And you are?
“A Facebook subpoena should handle that one”
I think you might be the one getting a subpoena from Facebook.
Eric Mettenich said “We just have to accept that there is far more mobility in the workforce now than in the past.
And that is not going to change any time soon”
Why do we “just have to accept” anything?
We make *choices*. We can choose to do something and we can choose *not* to do it.
Nothing is inevitable.
Matt said “Although I despair – as these bogans eventually have children generation after generation will become brainwashed with their uneducated racist rhetoric”
While atheist commies have abortions.
If we had not arrived here first, yes it may have been a hostile situation, someone else would have been here and maybe the aboriganies would have been extinct.
If that were the case, and the Japanese arrived here before it was westernised, how would you feel about seeing Aboriganies pushing wheelbarrows and farming rice.
Thats not a stereotype. They do that in Japan.
What has happened has happened. Look at our coat of arms. Its a kangaroo and an emu.
So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago? Deal with the current issues. And you have to admit, its a lot better than it was 50 years ago.
I thought I would type this because you are going to say what has the coat of arms got to do with this, then proceed to call me all sorts of names because you feel like being a dick.
Those are the only two animals on this planet that cannot walk backwards, hence Australia is always moving forwards.
Quote poorey: “So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago?”
I think ppl refer to the past to help understand the present poorey – isnt that human nature? To learn from our mistakes? A lot of you on here sound just like A.Hitler and his Nazis – and seem to be proud of the comparison! (Groan away Shocky, it’s all you seem to be able to comeback with when anyone makes this comparison).
And Dingo – most Australians don’t want the likes of you here in our country! You’re an embarrassment to us all. Appropriately named, I’m hoping that you can be socially trained to integrate into our society.
Either embrace our way of life here or pissoff!
“While atheist commies have abortions.”
Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.
I was going to say how do males have abortions, then I realised that occurs every time Shonk posts one of his senseless diatribes.
Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.
Well i certainly hope you have sent an email off to north Korea to let them in on the little known fact.
Dead set, do you catch the special bus to school?
“Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.”
Because the AFP are going to come onto our blog, ask us who we are, and we refuse to answer they’ll have nowhere to go. Our anonymity protects us from users, not from authority.
As for being fired by our employers – one of us is self employed, another is retired, and the third has enough sense to realise that a company does not deserve to have its name linked to every private pursuit of its employees.
““There are hundreds of millions Whites in the world. There are few hundred thousand Aborigines. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more Whites, sorry.”
Doesn’t sound so good now, eh?.”
Nobody is complaining about the fact that there are more whites than blacks. There is considerable outrage over the way blacks have been treated by whites over the past 200 years in Australia. There’s a difference. People who are against the ‘Asianisation’ of Australia are generally sick of seeing Asian people.
“Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.”
Name somebody who is better qualified than WIndshuttle?
Come on, he made liars out of your left winged historians.
His government whitewash paper confirmed it.
yet you still peddle these blatant lies.
Grasping at straws.
Strange thing is Windshuttle was actually a left winger and a favourite amongst the left winged crowd until he started telling the truth about Australian history and not just the left winged cultural marxist white guilt trip parts of history.
So name 1 person better qualified on Aboriginal history than WIndshuttle?
If you guys are athiests, why would you care about this? Athiests morals are based from religion.
As far as making a website and calling my mother fat I couldnt care less. But it seems that you can use this website to call people whatever you like, so whats the difference?
What I have found here is that you have an agenda that you want to keep, and your bigoted attitude is going to promote it no matter how many people you can abuse on the way.
You need to be re educated on manners, the way you conduct yourself on a public forum is utterly discusting. You may be promoting tolerance and stopping racism, but you are carrying on like a bogan yourself.
The more you act like a spoit kid on here, the more resentment you will get. If you are kind, people will respect you and take your point of veiw with a bit more seriousness. If you carry on like a spoilt kid in an adults body, well, I’d like to pull down your pants and smack your bum because thats how you deal with children.
I 100 percent support a muliticultural Australia. I embrace the fact that ethnics can say, Wow! How good is Australia and make there way here to start a new life in our fantastic country.
But you leave your baggage at home. I can honestly say with a majority vote from the Australian people, You are welcome here, but leave the bullshit at home.
But now that I have said that, you will tell me I am a racist because of the trouble they have been thru makes it ok to play up. I am not saying that they all do it, there is a minority giving the majority a bad wrap. We just dont want the bullshit carry on here.
By the way tab, I know you are an athiest, but Jesus really loves you.
TAB doesn’t play nice. TAB is not nice. TAB will not be nice.
TAB names and shames racists, bigots, misogynists, homophobes and other such vermin. They are certainly not nice.
If you want a polite nuanced discussion go to a Jane Austen site.
9 times i have tried to write, I have deleted every single one.
I will not be wasting my time here on your pathetic website.
I feel like eating a big mac and dumping a mc bogan on your face.
But congratulations, I am a pretty easy going guy, and you have managed to make me violent. So I will be taking it out on the dog.
I bet your dog is sick of copping your various reasons of frustration.
Should we be alerting the RSPCA???
TAB said “Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.”
“Because the AFP are going to come onto our blog, ask us who we are, and we refuse to answer they’ll have nowhere to go. Our anonymity protects us from users, not from authority.”
Who said anything about AFP?
I’m talking about the people who *you* attack on this blog (like me and Scott) and the Facebook people who you attack (you don’t merely copy their words, you add your own too) and copy their published “works” without their permission.
“As for being fired by our employers – one of us is self employed, another is retired, and the third has enough sense to realise that a company does not deserve to have its name linked to every private pursuit of its employees.”
Why would it, if it’s private?
Nobody’s employer has any right to monitor your private life, only your work performance.
Even If Name Removed had commited a *crime*, his employer would be legally prohibited from firing him because of it!
What of your landlord, your neighbours, your bank manager, the people at the supermarket, the pub, anyone you have frequent contact with.
What if they were told of some of the vicious comments you’ve made here?
Of course, they *can’t* be told, because you don’t identify yourselves.
Facebook comments aren’t “private”?
Just because something’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s not part of someone’s private life.
Unless you specifically go looking for those comments, you’re not going to see them.
They have nothing to do with work, and one’s employer would not know or need to know about them.
“Nobody is complaining about the fact that there are more whites than blacks. There is considerable outrage over the way blacks have been treated by whites over the past 200 years in Australia. There’s a difference.”
How do you think White Australians will be treated when *they’re* a minority?
We already get frequent abuse from some sectors of the ethnic immigrant population.
The point I made is that you wouldn’t DREAM of trivialising what happened to Aborigines. In fact, you typically exaggerate it.
Yet see no self-contradiction in flippantly dismissing the concerns of *another people* who feel threatened by a current wave of immigrants from alien cultures.
Who see their people reduced as a percentage of the population.
Who see their culture dismissed as “trash” while the culture of foreigners is “celebrated”.
Why can’t you see the *parallels* between these two displacements, rather than just their differences?
“People who are against the ‘Asianisation’ of Australia are generally sick of seeing Asian people.”
Or they’re sick of seeing Asians because it’s a *symptomatic* reflection of “Asianisation”.
Australia was never “Asian”.
Nor does it have to be.
And as I’ve shown, we receive far more Asian immigrants than even a purely *economic* analysis would warrant.
Josh said “Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.”
Showing your agism, Josh?
You don’t *call* yourself commies.
You still have the same “global totalitarian utopianism, no dissent allowed” mindset.
“I was going to say how do males have abortions”
??????????
Warning: Dumb level is now at Acute.
poorey said “If we had not arrived here first, yes it may have been a hostile situation, someone else would have been here and maybe the aboriganies would have been extinct.”
Pointless what-if.
“If that were the case, and the Japanese arrived here before it was westernised, how would you feel about seeing Aboriganies pushing wheelbarrows and farming rice.”
What the fuck are you going on about?
How would I “feel”?
I wouldn’t “feel” anything because I wouldn’t be here.
This is so irrelevant!
“What has happened has happened.”
Yes, it has.
And that is why *our* actual history, not what-ifs, matter.
“So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago?”
Because there is no present without a past.
Our society and all the others wouldn’t be what they are without their histories.
Some of those histories are related and some are not.
“Deal with the current issues.”
WTF!
Pay attention. That *is* what I’m trying to do!
“And you have to admit, its a lot better than it was 50 years ago.”
And is that because, or in spite of, multicultural immigration?
True progress has been made in regard to the rights of women and gays, for example.
Yet our current immigration policies may threaten that very progress!
By bringing in hundreds of thousands of people from cultures that have *not* undergone this social development.
I totally, 100% agree with you.
I never combed thru your words at all looking for a response, this is my interpretation,
However, i killed the dog, got a black one, called it Tab, and im about to kick that one in the guts.
this site is totally awesome
its terrible to think how many racist bogan dickheads are out there.
and you are doing a great thing to highlight the insane amounts of discrimination within australian society.
yay!
Chris, stop playing the tambourine, get your head out of the fucking sand, get on your vespa fasion scooter, drive to the butcher and have some meat.
You might eventually stop being a poof.
And where I come from, poof means soft.
So fuck you.
And where I come from, poof is a derogatory word meaning ‘man who has sex with other men’. I bet your dad hated that nickname.
Yeah Chris, Toughen the fuck up you Un-Australian pig dog. I’m so frustrated reading this shit, I’m going to kick Pooreys dog Tab in the guts aswell.
Looks like we’ll be going to the pet shop again tomorrow. Maybe we’ll name this one chris.
My bet Chris is a fake name and your real name is Hajab Hallal.
‘Toughen the fuck up’? Learn yourself some maturity you dense fuckwit. Normal Australians will always view you ‘Aussie Pride’ dickheads as embarassing and appropriate to ridicule. You’re a bunch of juvenile twats.
Because i have pride in my country and what my forefathers fought for?
My bet is you’re some white collar pen pushing keyboard basher, with nothing better to do than sit on a completely retarded website like this arguing something that you know you’re not going to win.
Unfortunately for you so called ‘Anti-Racists’ you’re a Minority and not a Majority. Suck it up and go push some more pens.
Or put a blue singlet on, Hop in my Ute and come stab some pigs. Might toughen you up abit.
“…arguing something that you know you’re not going to win.”
I’d say that when people start facing consequences for their online behaviour, we are beginning to ‘win’.
“Unfortunately for you so called ‘Anti-Racists’ you’re a Minority and not a Majority.”
It’s a shame statistics disprove you on this one. Racists outnumber anti-racists? LOL
“Or put a blue singlet on, Hop in my Ute and come stab some pigs. Might toughen you up abit.”
I bet you’re a hit with the ladies.
Did our forefathers fight for this country so that you could hate entire groups of people for no logically permissible reason and pursue acts of unscrupulous and pointless violence? No. Those are actions that represent the kinds of values that our soldiers have fought against.
It doesn’t matter AT ALL whether or not people who oppose racism are a minority or not. Regardless of how vocal racists are, their racist opinions will always be shunned because we live in a society that thrives off education and the scientific method. Racist opinions are time and time again exposed as baseless, subjective bullshit by this integral component of the functioning of western society. Racism is a retardant upon the social advancement of our society in the same way that religious fanaticism retards the advancement of scientific knowledge.
Go ‘stab some pigs’ and see where that takes you. I prefer to show my appreciation for Australia by actually making a positive contribution to the society I live in.
Nice one Mr Muffins. Quit your day job and become a comedian. Seriously though…
My last reply was directed at the “AussiePride” nutjob, not the writers of this blog. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t attack me considering that I am on your side and have worked alongside you in the past to counter the racist morons like Scott who frequent this site.
-> Replying to ‘Mr Muffins’, not you Ben. Don’t worry, I know who you are!
HAHA mrmuffins… a great name for someone who likes to appear so tough.
And coon was a block of cheese.
what a pack of sad cünts.
what would be wrong with making these people into aussies?
sharing what was once a great and peaceful culture?
dogs are smarter than racists. a great dane and a poodle both still know they are dogs.
The thousands of vietnamese who made their lives a success here have a saying for you types: “we sailed here, you failed here.”
would the Lebs still hate you if you hadn’t been a prick to them in the first place?
you’re just too stupid to think past skin colour aren’t you?
it’s baffling.
some links for you to consider: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html things racists like
may your daughters marry ragheads, may your sons slave for gooks.
Good on you Dingo!
You’re correct all the way.
More power to you!
To us!
Yes i am correct Scott,ive been debating these issues for ever and i already know what these anti white cultural marxist bigots are going to say before they tell their lies.
We have the TRUTH on our side, they do not.
Also see what type of methods these evil,hatefil anti white bigots use to denigrate us proud white folk?
Methods? You mean re-posting dopey racist comments that your lot put out into the public forum?
Dingo
You are without a doubt the most worthless sack of excreta I have ever had the misfortune to listen to.
I suppose the only upside to listening to you ramble on is that that is all it will ever amount to, the pathetic ramblings of a sick mind.
Because at the end of the day just like the majority of us Australians you are too lazy to actually do anything about your so deranged and often ill-informed prejudices
I have no doubt that you and your equally pox ridden friends believe yourselves to ” hard” men. I can see you know sitting around drinking beer fondling your cocks as you reminisce about your acts of definite bravery when you screamed taunts at foreigners from the safety of your commodore.
You are a sheep spewing forth the drivel shovelled into your head by some other twisted pathetic little fuck.
Follow follow little lamb. Spitting out the same old drivel that has been spat out by countless other fuckwits before you.
You are on an even keel with the “Hard men “ of the Broadie Boys from one of your links.
Pathetic little shitbirds with a brain the size of a sparrows knee cap.
You should both be lined up against a wall and shot with a ball of your own shit.
In parting, may you die a slow and painful death in the near future you gormless Cuntox
I bet you think sports are racist too. International everyone gets a trophy world cup because we dont want to say that we are better than them.
Boy you’re a losty.
Ben said “Did our forefathers fight for this country so that you could hate entire groups of people for no logically permissible reason”
Yes.
So we could think and speak as we please.
Whether you agree or not, whether you think it’s justifiable or not.
“and pursue acts of unscrupulous and pointless violence?”
Now, as usual, you *equate* words and actions, as if they’re the same thing.
Violence has always been illegal.
No need for “hate crime” laws.
No need to criminalise speech itself.
Assault, crime.
Vandalism, crime.
Murder, crime.
Always was. Nothing new there.
Words are not “violence”.
Nobody ever ended up in the emergency department because they read an offensive comment on Facebook.
“Emergency. We have a Code 7 Facebook Event! Emergency!!”
“we live in a society that thrives off education and the scientific method.”
Then take a class in the history of languages, anthropology or comparative religion, and tell me “we’re all the same”.
It’s your utopian dreamer opinions that aren’t based on real knowledge.
“Racist opinions are time and time again exposed as baseless, subjective bullshit”
And people can’t have baseless, subjective *opinions* (not behaviour, opinions)?
Why the hell not?
Is there any “scientific reason” to prefer chocolate to strawberry icecream?
Is one preference wrong and the other right?
Is one true and the other false?
Does a distaste for icecream altogether make you an “extremist”?
Elysse said “I think ppl refer to the past to help understand the present. To learn from our mistakes?”
And you’d think we’d have learnt the lesson “mixing different peoples together bad mojo” by now.
“A lot of you on here sound just like A.Hitler and his Nazis”
Yes, you guys.
Bogans are poison mushrooms that must be eradicated to save our society!
“Groan away Shocky, it’s all you seem to be able to comeback with when anyone makes this comparison”
You’re the ones who think they can make a perfect society by silencing all dissent.
“Either embrace our way of life here or pissoff!”
Now where have I heard that before?
“So if a pedophile and his pedophile posse were to get rumbled with their misadventures because they ‘forgot’ to keep their privacy settings on maximum then that’s ok”
Rumbled? No, that would be a criminal offense.
“but not if ppl are bagging the disadvantaged, different ethnic and religious groups, gender or making jest of flood victims then it’s justified?”
justified?
Speech has to be “justified” now?
People should be able to “bag” anything they feel like.
Words are not actions.
And jokes are not serious.
“Breaking the law is breaking the law. Education not legislation, honey.”
You’re the ones arguing for legislation, not us.
chubbybloodfart said
“what would be wrong with making these people into aussies?
sharing what was once a great and peaceful culture?”
Haven’t you heard, we don’t HAVE a culture.
And assimilation is a big bad no-no now.
Slap that wrist!
“dogs are smarter than racists. a great dane and a poodle both still know they are dogs.”
And I’m sure they also know they’re not the same.
They can tell by barks, appearances, odours that all dogs are not the same.
Dogs are smarter then *you*.
“we sailed here, you failed here.”
How enlightened and sophisticated.
We must have more of these arrogant parasites.
“would the Lebs still hate you if you hadn’t been a prick to them in the first place?”
Yes.
“you’re just too stupid to think past skin colour aren’t you?
it’s baffling.”
No, what’s baffling is that YOU can’t think past skin colour.
You think “White” means “amount of melanin”.
Rather than the historical ethnic continuum of certain peoples (and not others).
“Chimps, Humans 96 Percent the Same”
Oooh, so we’re going to equal rights and non-discrimination for chimps now?
Voting rights? Welfare payments? University quotas?
You’d probably find we share much with all mammals.
So fucking what.
Humans do not live as a “species”.
They probably never have.
Humans started wandering off in different directions almost as soon as the species appeared.
And have been developing different genetic and memetic realities ever since.
Species Smecies.
I stumbled across your site via a link in a political blog.
I think what you are trying to accomplish is quite noble, but a couple of things puzzle me. I hope you take constructive crticism well.
Firstly , when i clicked on “about us”, I was unimpressed. It reads;
” No information available.
Now scamper back to the juvenile avenues of Facebook, or Twitter, or MySpace, or wherever you found out about us”.
The last thing a potential new supporter needs is to be patronised when entering your site. So, perhaps a slightly more polite angle is needed in your “about us” section.
And the “no information bit”? Just a small writeup would do – what inspired you to do this, how long you’ve been doing it, you know, people like reading that sort of stuff.
Secondly, to call all bogans racists is similar to calling all muslims terrorists. It’s bordering on hypocritical. A paradox. Don’t tell me 2 wrongs make a right, because they don’t.
– Bogan word meaning; ” an individual who is recognised to be from a lower class background or someone whose limited education, speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplifies such a background”.
Some of the most dangerous racists I have seen are from an upper class background and highly educated (eg- Q &A last week). Perhaps one day, when you are wiser and more educated, you will start a website that can attack those who hold the puppet strings, and not just the puppets you have highlighted, who by the way are a very easy target.
Fighting racism is noble. But being the one responsible for changing the meaning of a word is subliminally egotistical.
So, don’t tar all with the same brush, as those you wish to highlight do. “Anti racist” sounds way better than “anti bogan” anyway, and I reckon you’ll get more “hits”.
Apart from that, keep up the good work.
Harry.
Thanks for the comments. We’ll put something up in the About Us section soon.
Re: all bogans are racist. No. We initially tried to state that the definition of a bogan had progressed from being merely someone of a lower class to someone from any class that exhibited embarrassing behaviour that involved racism, sexism or another form of discrimination. We tried stating a modern day definition but it wasn’t swallowed. So now we simply call ourselves ‘anti-racism|anti-sexism|anti-discrimination’. If we could change the ‘antibogan’ part we would but we can’t.
Wow this site makes me so sad. People are just so crazy and ignorant, believing that because they are white and born here means that they are somehow better than everyone else. Yet if they ever needed to flee Australia I bet they would expect other countries to take care of them.
How many of “TAB”s posts run along the lines of I dont care, I dont give a shit, who cares etc. and then he/she follows up with some in depth comments. TAB is a piece of shit, who hides behind a computer.
Aren’t you hiding behind a computer?
fuckwit = TAB
*yawn*
Well done “Shocked” for being a hypocritical douche that then resorts to juvenile retorts when this is brought to your attention.
You win today’s award for IDIOT OF THE DAY.
To the people who run this website,
Really like what you’re doing. It’s simple and effective. Glad to know there are people like you around.
FYI – Nicholas Folkes, Australian Protectionist Party is running in the seat of Balmain under “Independent” in the upcoming NSW election. Voters should know who they are really voting for. There are also a handful of One Nation “Independents”. http://knowyourcandidatesnsw2011.wordpress.com/
I’m a massive douche.
Having stumbled onto this site, I have to say you guys are doing some great work, brilliant!
This site in some ways restores my faith in society. That people will actually say that ‘no this is wrong and here it is for all the world to see as you have displayed it’ but that being said, I can’t help but want to bash my skull against the wall for some of the narrow-minded responses that I’ve seen on this site. I personally believe that everyone regardless of race, age, sex, creed or whatever should be given the benefit of the doubt and believe in keeping a completely open mind. I’ve come to the conclusion that if I want to not give myself a concussion, I will have to refrain from reading the comments.
That being said though, there is one question that I have. Who agrees with me on the ‘give myself a concussion’ statement?
or to be a little more clear, who agrees that the comments are taking away from what this site is trying to achieve?
Sometimes they might, but not always. You need to understand the sheer volume of morons that come here and bombard our email inbox, trying to defend the discrimination we expose.
Sometimes they are but it’s hard to stay civil in the face of such blatant racism, xenophobia and intolerance and people trying to defend the indefensible by saying it was “just a joke” taken out of context. Racism and bigotry are never funny.
It’s even harder to read page after page of white supremecist crap from the likes of Snott, it’s depressing to think that there are so many people out there who think like him so I can understand why people sometimes resort to lame insults.
I guess the chaser had the right idea back in ’07. If the media is (blatantly loosely used term) supposed to reflect the society it is a part of then perhaps people need to be snapped back to what they are being fed. Was watching some older episodes of the Chaser’s War on Everything this evening and it came up to be about spot on with what this site is promoting when they were having a dig at Today Tonight and ACA on the issues of Ethnicity.
It’s sad in a way that you’re two groups of people both trying to create an informing idea of what’s going on but doing it in very different ways. The chaser being a satirical look at what the heck people are being fed by mass media and you guys a naming and shaming website for attacks on ethnicity. Somehow I think this will sneak a way into an essay at uni at some point or another.
Thank you for the work that you do. If any of you do not mind, I’d like to pass on a couple of links to some to some interesting advertisements focusing on racial colour blindness and family values from my country.
I have lived with racial discrimination all my life, so it is heartening to know that there are some out there who don’t mind me despite the colour of my skin, the culture I come from, and my accented English.
Please post in your contact section where one should send legal notices/writs.
Thanks
(I’m serious, and no “email us” won’t cut it)
Oh that’s too bad, will just have to send to WordPress who will add their Attorney’s fees and on-forward to you (Read the WP T&Cs)
Look forward to seeing you face to face in due course.
Is there a specific gripe, Glen? Have you featured? Have you made discriminating public comments and would like your name/photo removed? Or have you nothing better to do? You do realise that this blog has been forwarded to authorities already, right? Feel free to contact officers at Carrara, Revesby, Redfern and Townsville Police Stations. Mention the blog. They’ve seen it.
If you want to get serious and discuss issues, go ahead. If you’re here on a threat rampage, your enthusiasm is wasted.
And “Glenstar”, TAB is well and truly lawyered up and they’d like nothing better than to rip racists and their apologists to shreds in public court. Pro bono
However since you’re a troll with a fake e mail then they won’t have the pleasure.
Melbourne must be dull today.
Gotta love how virtually all critics say “Anti-racists are a minority, not a majority in Australia” “Australians don’t want immigration, etc” over and over again.
Yet…..no rally has had more racists than anti-racists.
No political party running on a “No immigration” or “White only migration” agenda has ever even reached 10% of the public.
So….on what basis do they say the majority of Australians are racist, or don’t want immigration?
JM, I believe the official line is that anti-racists are all dole bludging professional protestors. Therefore rally numbers are really further evidence that all real working aussies are actually pro-racist.
Josh, Tab
I’d dearly love to take you to task, however I’m advised not to.
Writs will be issued shortly in the Federal Court of Australia and delivered upon WordPress as representatives of your blog since you’ve seen fit not publish a means by which they can be delivered upon you locally.
This process takes time, but it seems you’d know that.
As noted, looking forward to seeing you face to face in due course.
You won’t because you are a fake.
Josh, TAB:
I’d dearly love to take you to task, however I’ve been advised not to.
Writs will be issued shortly by the Federal Court of Australia and delivered to WordPress as representatives of your blog, since you’ve refused to publish a contact address.
This process takes time.
As mentioned, I’m looking forward to seeing you face to face in due course.
I just thought I’d tidy up your grammar, Glenstar. Also, you cannot commence legal proceedings on behalf of another person without that person’s permission and statements to police. And as such, there are no outstanding requests for removal of posts.
Also, we have not used copyrighted images on our website. We have screenshotted comments, which has the same effect as quoting a person.
Feel free to email us at theantibogan@gmail.com and let us know if there are posts you want removed. We can also provide you with an address to send your junk mail to.
Dear Glenstar,
Please forward all legal documents to me. Yes, I’m a lawyer.
No legal docs have been received. You’re full of shite.
Mat
“A Lawyer” or the appointed lawyer taking instructions for the people publishing this site? If the latter then please supply your DX Number.
If you’re just “A Lawyer” then don’t waste people’s time by needlessly chiming in.
By the way I am NOT a lawyer, I have retained one and he is acting on my instructions.
And since you have so far supplied two fake e mail adresses I would say you were about as genuine as the proverbial two-bob watch.
Jeez Glenstar, your ‘madskillz’ are wearing a bit thin now. We’ve obliged to your requests and you will notice that the post in question (the one that you couldn’t bring yourself to specify here) now has ALL names and photos removed, including your own. So what are you still doing here? And how is it that an amateur warm-up act like yourself has enough money to hire lawyers to defend minors that you have on your Facebook friends list? Why do you even have minors on your Facebook friends list??? You’re 43 right???
The post you’re concerned about has been wiped clean of any names or photos, and the person you’re so bravely defending still has an open photo gallery on Facebook. How about you stop for a minute and consider a few things:
1. Your underage ‘friend’ made public comments denouncing immigrants and labeling Muslims as ‘shit’. (Breaching RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 – SECT 18C)
2. Your underage ‘friend’ then continued to make public comments complaining about how she had been labeled a ‘racist’, and you replied with ‘fuck them’.
3. Your underage ‘friend’ contacted us and said that because she was under 18, we weren’t allowed to quote what she had written on a public social networking site – but we nonetheless obliged by blacking out her name and photo, and the names and photos of all other people who appeared on the post.
4. The screenshots regarding your underage ‘friend’ were provided by another user – someone who saw your friend’s public comments and was completely offended by them. We never engaged in any stalking or adding of your friend on Facebook to view their private material.
5.
6. If you have any further issues regarding the post in question breaching anybody’s privacy, please contact us at theantibogan@gmail.com .
7. At this stage you and your underage friend are to be reminded of a very simple thing: that if you post offensive racist material on the Internet to a worldwide audience without considering that there are innocent people you are hurting in the process, you are accepting the criticism that comes with it. Nobody has the right to criticise what you do in private. That’s why magazines that pry into celebrities’ private lives are considered to be trash. But when Shane Warne publicly cheats on his wife via Twitter, then he will be hung out to dry for it.
If you have any more concerns, don’t hesitate to contact us at theantibogan@gmail.com.
Bye for now, DJ Spock.
All ready to send nasties through the DX are you now?
What’s your lawyer’s name, firm and DX so we can establish if you are anything more than a troll.
I’m with Darp on this. Glenstar you are full of shite.
“…because she was under 18, we weren’t allowed to quote what she had written on a public social networking site ”
That is actually untrue. Minors can be charged with breaches of the various anti-discrimination acts and aggrieved plaintiffs can lodge complaints with AHRC over racist and bigoted comments made by minors. In many cases involving minors school principals have been informed and have taken appropriate action.
But I wouldn’t advise Glenstar to tell her that, because if he has been in any sort of private communication with the supposed minor he has potentially breached the Victorian child protection legislation. That’s not going to be a good look for a future career in the music business.
I have no clue what tangent you people have gone off to… seriously.
My beef is with a post specifically to do with me. IRL my name isn’t anything similar to my handle here. I’m not pressing a case on behalf of a third party.
Josh, Tab, others. You’ll find out everything you need to know when documents are served upon you. Until then, I don’t know, take a chill pill or something.
Until then good day.
Your IP address and username are not helpful to your cause of denial…
I’d have preferred to send this email directly but, in the absence of a direct contact point, I’ll post it here.
Let me preface by stating I’m a supporter of this site.
That sais, I’m disappointed by TAB commentary regarding the Villawood detention centre fires.
‘ “…violence doesn’t get anyone anywhere..” ‘ ?
I expected more.
I’ve volunteered within the centre. I can tell you, these people aren’t doing this for recreational purposes. These actions aren’t whimsical.
As you’ve mentioned further into the post, these people have come from traumatic circumstances. Some have witnessed their mothers and sisters being raped, tortured and finally killed. Others are unaccustomed to sleep because of the sound of artillery is what’s ‘normal’.
I invite the every reader to consider this.
What if your mother was beaten with a metal bar? Her nose, arm and probably her collarbone is broken. She’s covered in blood. She’s crying and screaming. And you can’t do a thing to help because you’re being held back by three ‘soldiers.’
She is then raped, kicked and spat on.
Finally (and gratefully), she’s shot point-blank in the temple.
The refugees are exercising their international rights by seeking asylum in Australia. No laws are being broken. None are ‘illegal’.
Australia’s asylum seeker policy is shameful. AUSTRALIA’S ASYLUM SEEKER POLICY BREAKS INTERNATIONAL LAW.
“‘ “…violence doesn’t get anyone anywhere..” ‘ ?
I expected more.”
It’s true. What hope do the tile-throwers (that allegedly threw the tiles in response to the fire brigade pointing their hoses at them) and the fire-starters have of gaining residency now?
The entire article focuses on the fact that these people aren’t illegal, and have come from violent places having experienced and witnessed atrocities. They of all people should know that violence gets people nowhere.
I personally would support them sitting on the roof with the bedsheeted message ‘we need help’, and I am completely against mandatory detention and especially the duration of it.
“The refugees are exercising their international rights by seeking asylum in Australia. No laws are being broken. None are ‘illegal’. ”
Absolutely correct. But setting fires and vandalising buildings does break laws. I completely understand what has pushed these people to this point, and it’s important that this story is taken with a grain of understanding and empathy. But I will reiterate: Violence and destruction gets you nowhere.
Why do the posts on this blog invariably deteriorate into name calling? Does being grammatically correct, make ones point more, or less relevant. Are you so precious that you can’t deal with a little criticism, or do you think that your cause is above question?
I don’t think that if people want to disagree with your point of view, it makes them “racism apologists”. I would of thought that people of your obvious intelligence could mount a slightly more persuasive argument than calling people bogans, or suggesting that people should “go fuck themselves” if they don’t agree with your method of combating racism. Maybe you should take some of this on board, and actually do something about racism, not just slander people for stupid facebook status’. I’m sure there are people out there actively combating this problem that you could lend a hand to.
I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work? In my opinion good intentions are being ruined by poor method.
1.You cannot debate these people.They are arguing from a poor knowledge base consisting of the rants of shock jocks, inflammatory rubbish from the gutter press, dodgy Internet sites and rumours and through the flter of emotion and prejudice rather than facts and evidence.
2. The implication is that there is a “debate” to be had. Actually there isn’t. You are either a xenophobe or you are not. If you don’t bellow your xenophobia loud and proud on public websites, then TAB doesn’t know you are, and neither does your boss.
3. TAB is not responsible for anyone losing their job. Employers sack people. Employers also do not like the reputation of their workplace being dragged through the mud. So racists and homophobes among others like the ADF clowns who put up a Facebook page are liable to be sacked.
From the point of view of a customer or client would you want to deal with this type of person?
And yes there are racist apologists. There have always been racist apologists. TAB does not like them, nor do we,
Lets not be so black and white about this. “You’re either a xenophobe or you’re not” “you can’t debate these people”. Discussion would be a better word.
Misinformation is rampant in todays world. Discerning truth is becoming ever more challenging. People who have been gifted brains should be lending a hand where they can, not distancing themselves. Why put yourselves on a pedestal? You’ve put a huge amount of effort into doing some good, but seem to not care that your damaging your image, and alienating would be allies. You have a chance to create a massive following of enlightened people, who together could make a difference.
All I’m saying is start being more inclusive and you’ll find the job you’ve taken on getting easier, not harder.
Anthony, who gives a fuck if we resort to name calling? There is no unwritten law that states that those supporting or perpetuating discrimination are the only ones allowed to fight dirty. The fuckheads aren’t worth the courtesy. They stalk families, they make threats, they call names and they start fights. They send propaganda emails and start up bullshit social media groups and fan pages and we’re supposed to stick to the moral high ground by merely watching our language? Fuck them. The moral high ground belongs to anyone who opposes discrimination – name-callers or not.
“I don’t think that if people want to disagree with your point of view, it makes them “racism apologists”.
In every instance of someone being called a ‘racism apologist’, the context has verified it. If someone is willing to stick up for someone’s right to ‘free speech’, regardless of whether or not it is hate speech, then they have ignored the issue of discrimination and are accepting it under the false pretense that it is completely justifiable and legal in Australia to discriminate.
“I would of thought that people of your obvious intelligence could mount a slightly more persuasive argument than calling people bogans, or suggesting that people should “go fuck themselves” if they don’t agree with your method of combating racism.”
Did you mean ‘I would have…’? Grammar fail. It happens to the best of us, Anthony. Don’t sweat it. Our arguments are solid enough. We oppose discrimination. Calling people on their stupidity, lack of intelligence, ignorance or hopeless grasp on the language they pretend to argue for is completely justified. Such ‘argument’s don’t replace the original argument of opposing discrimination and highlighting it when it occurs, they add to it. Telling people to go fuck themselves doesn’t breach any anti-discrimination legislation in Australia, and we will continue to do so if pushed.
“Maybe you should take some of this on board, and actually do something about racism, not just slander people for stupid facebook status’.”
Did you mean ‘statuses’? Ah another grammar fail. Oh well. Perhaps you should take this reply on board, and realise that beyond this forum, many of the people posting and commenting here are doing positive things in the fight against racism. This is a stand-alone blog. It does not cancel out any other work done outside of the blog.
“I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work? In my opinion good intentions are being ruined by poor method.”
I’m sorry, did you hear that the Skaf brothers were jailed on rape charges? Were their family members rapists? Did they deserve for them to be out of work? Fuck that Anthony, your logic is dense. If a person does the wrong thing, they face the consequences. One of the thought processes that needs to cross a person’s mind as they commit a crime, or do something that will place their employment in jeopardy, is the possible affect it will have on the people around them. That person who was fired was fired because of the comments he made about his workplace and the people he worked for – NOT because of his racist/sexist/discriminatory comments that were featured here. Get your facts right, and get your head in the game. Or fuck off.
I’m sure you don’t feel the need to prove anything, but how about an example of how you actively combat racism. You’ve mentioned it a couple of times without going into detail.
Don’t know what the Skaf brothers have to do with anything. Except as an example of dense logic. Or a pathetic attempt to bait me into making a racist comment. Fail on both counts.
I don’t really care at all if you want to lower yourself by name calling and swearing and carrying on. I just find it hard to imagine that you couldn’t craft anything more eloquent with your enormous intellect. Just friendly advice, like telling someone that they’ve shit themselves and it stinks.
I’m guessing that the hard line, no grey area stance you’ve taken is done purposefully just to raise awareness of the problem. Doesn’t really matter if a couple of innocent people may be humiliated on the way. At least someone is courageously trawling the web exposing racist words that people stupidly post on some social networking site.
Acts of racism are disgusting. I agree. I guess I just don’t get how a stupid racist joke or comment does any damage.
Providing examples of our other endeavours would place the reputations of such companies/organisations under unnecessary scrutiny. Such examples may also give clues as to who we are.
The Skaf example was entirely relevant. You noted that a man had lost his job after he made disgusting comments about his workplace, his workmates and people from other countries and religions on the Internet. You asked why the family had to be affected by their father’s actions, seeing as though they weren’t racist, nor were they the type of people who ranted and raved about their employers in a public forum. So here’s the point, one more time:
“If a person does the wrong thing, they face the consequences. One of the thought processes that needs to cross a person’s mind as they commit a crime, or do something that will place their employment in jeopardy, is the possible affect it will have on the people around them.”
It’s not a fail. Murderers’ families have to deal with daddy being locked up. Rapists’ families have to deal with no more income from daddy. Matty Johns was fired from Channel 9. His wife was severely affected by his actions. She was publicly embarrassed by his actions. It’s the same thing. You consider your family before you do things that will directly or indirectly affect them. And Jason D would have been fired whether this website existed or not because his comments featured on a website, http://www.pwsnt.com, before ours, and his wall was public. The reader who contacted his workplace had seen his comments on http://www.pwsnt.com first and shared them with us via email.
“I don’t really care at all if you want to lower yourself by name calling and swearing and carrying on. I just find it hard to imagine that you couldn’t craft anything more eloquent with your enormous intellect.”
Perhaps you think that swearing and carrying on detracts from our main goal. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But one of the things we want to do with this blog is to make these people notice us. We want them to engage with us. We want them to see how stupid their comments look when highlighted in a different forum. We want people to think, ‘hmmm maybe my comments might end up at theantibogan’ before posting discriminatory comments, and decide not to do it. We want to be noticed. The one thing we will not do if they show up at our blog is ‘debate’, and we will not be ‘nice’ about it. As has been mentioned before – this site won’t stop anyone from being racist – but it will make them think twice about what they say in the public forum. Swearing or not won’t make a lick of difference – if anything, it makes us more noticeable to the knuckle-dragging neanderthals.
“Doesn’t really matter if a couple of innocent people may be humiliated on the way.”
Please, go through this entire website and find someone who isn’t guilty of saying the things they have quite obviously said.
“I guess I just don’t get how a stupid racist joke or comment does any damage.”
Are you a white male? There’s obviously less chance of you empathising seeing as though you are in a position of ethnic and cultural dominance in this country. But go to a foreign country where you’re the minority, slap a couple of negative stereotypes onto you – maybe you’re a bad driver who stinks like shit and sucks up social security on your way to being a terrorist, and then let’s see you get through day to day life, collecting every snide comment and remark along the way and then let’s see if you’re not affected when you hear a joke about your culture, about your people.
Please, don’t try and compare rape and murder – the two most abhorrent ACTS on earth – with racial slurs. While it’s a good indication of how strongly you feel about the issue, they are not in the same league of offence. This tactic belongs on radio with simple shock jocks.
I didn’t expect you to provide any insight to what you get up to outside of the blog. I wasn’t asking for an in depth rundown of your activities, just the broad strokes would have satisfied me.
What I meant by innocent was: a person who has made a tasteless comment, who is otherwise a decent human being. There are a lot of reasons out there why people have a problem with those around them. Black, white or otherwise. They don’t all deserve to be shamed, but some do. Hence, there is some collateral damage.
I am indeed a white Australian male. I deeply empathise with all people. In fact it is a strength of mine. I feel strongly about people being denied advantage due to race, colour or creed. I also take every opportunity to inform people when they make uninformed remarks. I just don’t get how undirected facebook stati can upset people. I liken it to drug dogs at a festival, sure you catch a few people with a few pills. Wouldn’t the time and effort be better spent catching the people who distribute drugs an a large scale?
I have a question. Where do the Irish stand in your list of oppressed people?
I’ll leave with a joke: What’s the difference between a tub of yoghurt and Australia?
If you left yoghurt in the sun for 200 years it would develop some culture.
Love it….
“Please, don’t try and compare rape and murder – the two most abhorrent ACTS on earth – with racial slurs.”
I wasn’t comparing the severity of the crime, I was comparing things that can have you fired. If you’re considering making racial slurs in a public forum, and you don’t mind if your boss hears it/reads it, then you’re making a decision that could potentially have the consequences of termination. You will note that racial discrimination is illegal in this country.
There’s certainly precedence for what happened to Jason D – he only has himself to blame.
“What I meant by innocent was: a person who has made a tasteless comment, who is otherwise a decent human being.”
95% of the comments exposed on this site appear to have been made by complete cunts. 5% may be open to contextual debate. We offer people the right to have their names/photos blacked out in any case.
“I just don’t get how undirected facebook stati can upset people.”
When they reach a much broader audience than intended, and when such comments are posted into fan pages and Facebook groups, then they have the potential to cause harm. I think the very fact that so many people have been affected by various forms of racial discrimination over years and years indicates just how much discrimination can actually hurt people.
“I liken it to drug dogs at a festival, sure you catch a few people with a few pills. Wouldn’t the time and effort be better spent catching the people who distribute drugs an a large scale?”
A great point. One I completely agree with. But what this site aims to achieve is that second-thought about whether or not people should make public their hatred. If this site starts to become part of the social landscape – in such a way that people are considering what they say in public for fear of ending up here, then it will address the larger problem of public discrimination. With a severe cutback of public discrimination, people will find it less appropriate to justify their own discrimination because there are fewer examples of comments by people who feel the same way, readily accessible via social media. It is at that point that people who aim to educate on matters such as discrimination are able to gain more of a foothold.
“Where do the Irish stand in your list of oppressed people?”
What does that have to do with the price of fish in Atlanta?
“I’ll leave with a joke: What’s the difference between a tub of yoghurt and Australia?
If you left yoghurt in the sun for 200 years it would develop some culture.”
Each of the links you posted deals with a person who is an employee of the state, one is a commentator. They all got dealt with. Fair enough.
I have stated my position on this subject in response to Caroline’s post.
I am trying to separate the distinction between a racial comment and discrimination. One, to me is a slur – hateful, ignorant or misdirected words directed at a group of people, or an individual within that group. The other is denying a person an opportunity, be that employment, inclusion, or access to a service or premise based on that individual being a part of a group. I concede that not everyone will share this opinion, but are acts of discrimination not more serious than mere words?
My question on the Irish is completely off topic and quite irrelevant to our discussion. It is a personal interest to me. I have had quite a bit to do with Irish folk, and find their situation to be quite unique among oppressed people. I was merely seeking your point of view. Being that cases of discrimination and oppression are a passion of yours.
Nice pic…
It’s telling that even when a foreigner is having a dig at Aussies, that the aboriginals are left out. Any opinions out there of what Aussie culture is?
“I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work?”
By that logic no-one with a family should ever be fired. The child of an alcoholic whose drinking results in them being fired doesn’t deserve to have a parent out of work either, nor does the child of someone who is fired for sexually harassing a workmate. How is this case any different?
The person in question made homophobic remarks about a workmate on a public facebook page, as well as making many violently racist and sexist comments. Their employer was informed of this and chose to undertake and internal investigation into discriminatory behaviour in the company. The investigation resulted in the firing of two employees (one being the person in question) and a third was given the option to resign. No-one deserves to work in a workplace where they are discriminated against on the basis of their sexuality, they have a right to work in a safe, respectful environment and if certain employees are destroying the environment than their employer has every right to fire them.
So anyone with a family can say whatever they want and they should not get fired because they have children? Is that what you are saying?
Was that question at me? I was dissagreeing with Anthony who said “I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work?”
I think thev person who was fired deserved what they got and I would be more worried about the impact their bigotted attitude would have on their family than the fact that they were fired.
Yeah I was just confirming whether or not I misread what you posted 🙂
You make a fair point. The workplace should be safe to work in, free from harassment and bullying.
TAB was correct in saying that consequences need to be considered before you do something. The point I was trying – poorly – to make was that care should be taken when informing any authority about alleged bigotry. I was asking questions related to that incident to highlight that punishing one person may involve punishing several other, innocent parties.
After reading all the above, i tend to agree with you Anthony. That being that the intentions of this website and the founders are very noble and i applaud their effort to expose racism in our society. However I don’t think that the swearing and abuse does anything to help to enlighten the racists and show them that racism in our society is unacceptable. It only brings intelligent discourse down to their level!
On the flip side, it’s a good laugh though!
Just had a quick flick through the site and I think the concept is great but as expected, there seems to be so much hate oozing out from everywhere- hate coming from “racists” and hate coming from anti-racists. Reading some the posts is making me feel sad about the extreme ignorance and closed mindedness of some people in this country…
The simple solution for those people who are featured, named and shamed on the blog is for them to stop being racist (or bigoted or sexist or homophobic).
None of these attributes are anything to be proud of. None will garner respect or regard for them in the wider community. No one will be lauded for their xenophobia or praised for their hatred.
It takes more energy to make a complete knob of yourself, possibly for all time, by public hating on a public forum than it does to simply walk away from hating a group of people simply because they are different from you.
We certainly get the reason for the surname…MADden.
Is he a comedian?
Yo TAB, you might like to feature this vid
Excellent. Love it. Will do.
There’s a nice group of inbred fucksticks starting up called “The awkward moment , when a indian doesn’t stink”. I highly recommend getting on there and spamming these racist arseholes.
Seems to have gone?
lol It was taken down within 10 minutes. Fastest I’ve ever seen FB move!
hahaha, this is so funny i almost puked. you people are whats wrong with australia, not the “bogans”. any idea what a bogan is anyway? try looking it up, it has little to nothing to do with racism. also, is it racist to call a middle eastern person a wog, but an aussie person a bogan isnt? kinda double standard dont you think? as for ur memebers, it dont matter what any of you are, white or anyshit, ur all 1 thing in common. fucked in the head. you people deserve a bullet to the skull, or better yet, a kick to the groin. harden the fuck up you low life hippy cunts, the world isnt fair. gets used to it.
Ah yes, someone who solves their insecurities with threats of violence. You’re what’s wrong with Australia, but you’ll never have the juice upstairs to realise it.
Not all Australians are bogans, Luke. That’s why it’s not racist. But just for you, I looked it up:
BOGAN (pronunciation boe-gn) is a term used primarily in Australia to describe a particular section of the working class demographic. This derogatory slang word is a gender-neutral noun; this being important as many bogans tend to gravitate towards one another, forming relationships and extended families. A bogan typically resides in either a low-cost housing estate, government housing or in the outlying regional areas of continental Australia.
Generally the bogan fits a particular stereotypical image. The perception of what actually constitutes a bogan has been shaped over the years primarily by the media; notable especially are television programs such as Channel 7’s Today Tonight and Channel 9’s A Current Affair. These programs regularly feature stories of harrowing boganism – including communities under siege from bogan terrorism, and bogans “rorting the system” in relation to welfare benefits and questionable practices.
So now we have a basic understanding of the bogan, we may delve further into the mysterious world of mullets and long-kneck beer bottles in brown paper bags. Traits of the bogan can be summarised by the following points:
• A pronounced lack of dress sense in social situations. Typical bogan attire consists of a flannelette shirt, King Gee stubbie shorts (either blue/khaki), torn or soiled jeans from the 1980’s or earlier, and of course double-plug standard issue white thong sandals with black rubber.
• A lack of personal hygiene. A bogan will often allow his/her hair to grow into an attractive style named the “mullet” as popularised in the 1980’s.
• Distinct vocabulary. The bogan language is somewhat foreign to most English-speaking people.
• A particular choice in motor vehicle. The bogan usually drives one of two makes of vehicle. Typically this is either a Holden or a Ford .
• Choice in music. The bogan prefers either metal or pub rock.
• Employment status. The common bogan is either a) not employed or b) a tradesman/labourer.
• A poorly-maintained house or unit. As previously mentioned, the bogan often resides in regions of a lower socio-economic standing.
christ cass you have too much time on your fat little hands if you go to these lengths to try and make me feel stupid. shame it didnt work. i consider myself a bogan, but you seem to think all bogans are racist. i dare you to find anything about me thats racist (based on your fucked up beliefs that is). oh, and fyi, EVERYONE ON EARTH IS RACIST IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM. everyone has their prefrences. i prefer my company to yours. get it in your thick skull that you people are the scum of the earth and all this attempted naming and shaming will come back to bite your fat liberal ass
“i (sic) dare you to find anything about me thats (sic) racist…”
“EVERYONE ON EARTH IS RACIST…”
Nice fuck up there mate. And what were you saying about Chinese people the other day? Fail.
read the whole comment you dipshit. i said im not racist according to your standards. i am racist however because everyone is racist on earth. we all have our preferences. read the whole one before commenting you liberal wanker
I don’t find cut and paste very time consuming, Luke. I’m sorry you do.
yeah, but the fact that you people troll these site looking for racists tells me that you have very little in the way of a life. get out more, youll see that this kinda thing is far more wide spread than you think. take it this way, you have 800 fans, BTBIA has about 10k.
your saying your an “anti discrimination site” but your clearly discriminating individuals about there believes. i believe that burqa’s should be banned in public! and that if you don’t like the Australian way of life you should leave. and 95% of Australia think the same!
Did you know that 37% of all statistics are made up?
made up or not everyone has a right to an opinion, your discriminating others on there opinion. I think putting up where people work and putting up photos of what these people look like is wrong, and i would like you to take the link to my facebook off right away. thanks. Shouldn’t call yourself an anti discrimination site, thats a lie!
They have a right to have an opinion, you’re right. (Although I’m not aware of “Freedom of Thought” legislation, we can probably take it as a given.)
They don’t have the right to attack or vilify a race in public and expect that their comments will then somehow be considered private. How is this website posting publicly available information – words from their own mouths – discriminating against them?
yes they are openly saying there thoughts, but your hinting at people to try and get these people fired from there job. That where i think your gone to far!
oh and.
“But you know you’re a bogan trash whore when you’re dating a guy who puts ‘Aussiepride’ as his Facebook profile name and you’re pulling the dreaded fish pout in all of your profile pictures”
so you don’t see any mabye bulling harassment in this statement
discriminating her boyfriend in his profile pictures. calling her a whore…
or
Owen Leslie Wills, you epic failure of a human
Guess what ben,employers fire people,TAB does not.
Employers do not want their cutomers deserting them because some immature knob from their business has engaged in public vlification and brought the name of the business into disrepute. Because that’s the effect that public vilficaton has .It trashes the reputations of decent businesses. No one wants to be associated with the mindless ugliness of racism and bigotry.
The people you’re defending discriminated against an entire class of people based on the colour of their skin, Ben. TAB singled them out – not whites or Christians or whatever, but THEM – because of their disgusting public behaviour.
I guess you could say that TAB is bullying them, sort of – but only if you agree that the police bully people by arresting them for breaking the law.
Do you even agree that these people did something wrong by posting this racist bile in the first place?
yes they did something wrong i agree, but i disagree with your comment about police bulling. With a police arresting you at least its to your face you know whats going on and such. TAB has a website singling out yes people with fucked up views then really not naming and shaming but to go even more extreme and get them fired from there jobs (and aging you people are doing it not them they are not writing letter to there employers). the worst part is its behind there back. there should be a link to this website so they can defend themselves right away. our legal system is that your not guilt in till proven guilty!
Do i agree with what these people wrote about there racist biles, no, these are in the more extreme side of things with really no point behind these groups. for example being that a race is know to be bad drives, well if you went to that country yes they are bad drivers but because there is no road rules! and if you haven’t been to that country you wouldn’t know about that.
i don’t agree with what your doing its the wrong way to make people think, at the end of the day they might lose there job. but then put there profiles on private and get another job and still have the same thoughts and opinions.
At least if they change jobs, put their profiles on private and keep their racist vileness inside the walls of their own heads, they will not be either inciting others to hate a group of people or bullying a group of people. (Like you, I agree that bullying sucks.) We can’t always change the way people think (alas!), but if we can make them at least act like a civilised human being, we’re part of the way there…
THEY put their workplaces up!!! If people are stupid enough to put such comments on a public forum plus have their workplace showing, they deserve to be fired. They are representing their workplace!
well im gna sue this stupid website cause im a bogan and i find it offensive that they have called this website theantibogan ur all just as bad
So Chloe. It’s been a while now.
What’s happening ??
Dickhead…
Turns out the legal system works mighty slow around these parts
hahaha this is an excellent website.
Speaking of banning the Burka, check out this facebook group
Australia is a beautiful country.Racists and bigots make it ugly. It would be a blessing if these clowns DID hide their faces.
The operators of this site must live in some kind of insulated fairy land … wake up and smell the roses.
Aw poor you. I bet you’ve got a really tough life. What did you watch on your Plasma tonight?
“Birth of a Nation” no doubt.
I’m a fucking douchebag.
* Note: this comment may have been edited by TAB.
Geez man, don’t give yourself a hernia.
Really? Well if that’s the case, the morons on Facebook defaming and harassing me will also go. At the end of the day, everything on FB is owned by FB, so unless FB chooses to sue TAB, you have no case.
WTF? Try to learn how construct a sentence and try again.
Go away and molest yourself moron.
My last comment was directed to “michael” BTW.
LOOK! Up in the sky! It’s a bird. It’s a plane. No, it’s just a complete wanker, so full of his own hot air and gases that he’s started to float into the stratosphere. Let’s hope you don’t get into outerspace Michael, those aliens are known to probe people.
Nice new skin. Feels less like a template and more like a Rage Against The Machine fan site. 🙂
I just wanted to say your website is a crock of fukn shit you are taking away peoples freedom of speech for one and the other thing is you call your website antibogan bogan is a stereo type which really if you think deep and long about it is a form of racism because your judging another human for being different which is what racism is and as for contacting ppl employment and posting thngs on here from there accounts your taking there opionions away from them racism is all around and this is our country and if we dont want it over run with boat ppl then so be it why shuld we give them houses cars money etc when they wont help an australian born person the same thing charity starts at home and as far as im concered you need a wake up call i suppose you will start calling our omcedians racist because they make racist jokes aswell get a fukn life grow up and do sumthing constructive with your time like i dunno go work in a soup kitchen help some homeless aussies that cant get no fukn centerlink to pay the houses off because the governement is fukd giving assistance to all the fukheads that come in on boats
Come back when you learn how to use full stops.
Just thought you guys might like to see something from an old “friend of yours”. I think he’s “improved”. Enjoy guys. 😀
Thanks for that Sai Ho. Always good to see nutzis deteriorate into frenzied public madness.
Hi TAB,
I’m flattered that you guys read my article and so glad that the site is still kicking. I will continue to read your updates and articles.
I admire your resolution and commend the difference you are making to the problems of social intolerance and apathy.
Please keep it up.
Nathan
Comments on the NT News website are absolutely shocking today guys – the racist/ethnocentric minority (let’s hope) in the NT have their ignorance on display.
I’ve been wondering why there has been no comment, argument or story relating to the Federal Governments attempts to change the law regarding off shore processing of refugees. Here is a government trying to alter laws that don’t suit their ridiculous, even cruel political agenda even after our highest court has ruled their actions to be illegal and inhumane. There is not one mention of it on here! Is it because the anti bogan itself now seems to have more of a political agenda that is in line with the Labour Government and Julia Gillard. Along with the Green Party, the Liberal Party are in fact stopping the law changes, all be it that they still want off shore processing but at least to countries that have signed the UN Refugee Convention. Not a good solution by any means but definately not as bad as the Malaysian solution.
I just wanted to commend all of you on the job you’re doing. You are, at least to some of us who have trouble reconciling the lack of logical process implicit in the vast majority of political discussions in Australia, and the world at large, currently, heroes, in a very real, very literal sense. The ignorance and intolerance of so many people in our society, like those featured on your site, is so thoroughly depressing and impossible to debate (the trouble with stupid people is they never know when they’ve lost an argument) that it’s sometimes difficult to retain any kind of faith in humanity, knowing that so many are comfortable with such obvious and transparent fallacies in place of logic and rationality. Seriously, and without the slightest touch of sarcasm, thank you for doing what you’re doing, and please, keep doing it.
My posts are missing from your site. people come here to see how racist I am. Can you please insure that my posts that you have copied to your site are restored. I love the free publicity. NO-ONE has ever given me negative feedback regarding my posts here. However they do pat me on the back. I keep this town running, everyone knows me. I am even involved with organisations that assist the homeless. I am not a bogan, so please spread my word as normal people agree with me. I am still waiting for just one person to give me some negative feedback relating to being on your site. Bring it on. You need to do better. Maybe take out some commercial advertising, to expose us racists. You really need to do more, this is not enough.
Sure thing. As soon as you reveal your identity. I see you’re from Brisbane. That’s not much help yet.
I have just recently been introduced to your website. And I have to say what a laugh it is! The creator of this website hides him or herself behind a mask but is more than happy to place private information of others whos views are different to their own for the world to see! I work in a Multicultural office and 90% of the ppl here agree with me…..It was a muslim women who put me onto your site saying that she was upset that sites like this are causing more damage! She, like me is only living the life she was brought up believing in. Traditions that were passed down through the Generations.Now weather that is here in Aus or in her home land. But she like me believes that while she is living in Aus she should respect our way of life.
I am a white Aussie…..blonde hair blue eyes (And to some of your followers that makes me a bogan). And I strongly believe in my traditions (Again this would make me a Bogan). I have had the greatest gift of being able to travel to a number of different countries, And while i was more comfortable and felt safer in some than i did others I would not change the experience and the knowlegde i have gained for anything.
I think what alot of what you like to call bogans want is to be able to live the life they themselves have been brought up knowing and are scared that they might one day be taken away form them. As history has shown it can happen!
While I was in Egypt I was told…not asked to wear a head scarf and enter by another door to that of my husband. Did I argue, refuse to enter or create a scene? Did i go to the paper and say I was being treated unfairly? Or I was treated like a second class citizen? No i did not I was in another country where these are their traditions and I was a visitor and therefore i had respect for the culture. If I choose to live in that country then I would have no choice but to live that life and respect their beliefs. While I was in the UK I was shocked to see that yes some shopping centres were not hanging xmas decorations, some schools were not performing xmas plays. And the reason for this was that they did not want to disrespect the muslims in the area.
Now weather this is true or not I did not see any xmas decorations at the shopping centre. So if such things can happen in the UK then why couldnt it happen here? It would seem to some that History is repeating itself….Cpt Cook raped Australia and while some of his men might have been apposed to what he was doing what choice did they have but to follow orders, while some ppl thought it was wrong to remove Aboriginal children from their parents and homes after the goverment ruled they must for the sake of the child! what choice did they have? Again but to follow orders! so what Im saying is not everyone agreed with what was happening but they did what was expected of them. So some Aussies believe that, some not all Muslims would like to do the same here.
This debate will rage for yrs to come……long after my life and that of my children
All i do know is that I am Australian and Proud! if that makes me a Bogan then so be it! I love living in this Country which is a choice I make I value my freedom of speech. But most of all I Value our Traditions and our way of Life!
My real name is provided…..
Yawn. Heard your shit before, spouted by other retards. Do the research then get back to us about your issues.
Dear Ms Weasel,
I have just recently been introduced to your post. And I have to say what a laugh it is! The creator of this post hides him or herself behind a mask of supposedly informed rhetoric but is more than happy to place misinformation and ignorant views with spurious unsubstantiated claims!
Allow me to give you an example of your stupidity… And then by means of simple editing change the meaning 180 degrees:
“I live in a Multicultural country and 90% of the people here agree with me….. It was a Muslim woman who put me onto your post saying that she was upset that posts like this are causing more damage! She, like me is only living the life she was brought up believing in. But she like me believes that while she is living in Australia she should respect our way of life and here’s the remarkable thing – she does – as do more members of the Muslim community than non-Muslims – I’ve seen the crime statistics and anti-social behavior is predominantly perpetuated by Protestants!”
(Gee don’t you like “My best friend is Muslim so I am allowed to be anti-Islamic”, “I know a gay man who also hates gays”, “I’m not anti-Semitic, my uncle is a Jew and he hates all Jews” statements? Well how about you get your Muslim/Gay/Jewish colleague to write in then and confirm your claims on their behalf?)
You are a white Aussie (blonde hair blue eyes too apparently), who shows a limited understanding of standard grammatical conventions, a serious ineptitude at logical progression and no awareness of how to reasonably compose your thoughts in the English language – so, to most of us, that makes you a bogan). You strongly believe in your ill-informed rhetoric (again, this would make you a bogan). Better yet, to me that makes you the human equivalent of a cyst on the arse of a particularly diarrhetic warthog.
You have apparently had the ‘gift’ of being able to travel to a number of different countries, and while you were more comfortable and felt safer in some than you were in others, you obviously did not gain any insight whatsoever into the world as a whole and have limited experience and no knowledge gained from any of these journeys, as is clearly evidenced in your writing.
I think what a lot of what you are unnecessarily concerned about is a completely misguided fear that you will be unable to live the life you have been brought up knowing and are petrified that this might one day be taken away from you.
You do not like change. You want Cabbage Patch dolls. You want no seat belts in the back of cars. You want Billy Ray Cyrus. You want asbestos roofing. You want hyper-colour T-shirts. You want cane toads. You want mums to stay at home. You want no sunscreen.
Actually Peter Pan, it looks like you want to stop the world in the 1850s.
While you were in Egypt apparently you were told, not asked, to wear a head scarf and enter by another door to that of your husband. Did you argue, refuse to enter or create a scene? Did you go to the paper and say I was being treated unfairly? Were you treated like a second class citizen? According to you, you did not as you were in another country where these are their traditions and you were a visitor and therefore you claim to have ‘respect for the culture’. You obviously don’t since you are now saying this was an issue, but that’s a side point and more an indication of your lack of logic than anything else (on this note, you may want to look up the difference between ‘tourist’ and ‘citizen’ as per your question about being treated like a “second class citizen”).
Now here’s the funny thing: if you were ‘able to’ (not ‘choose to’ – a word you bandy around with absolute disdain for its meaning) live in that country then you would most certainly have a choice to question those beliefs and take a stand against them if you wanted to. NEWS FLASH: you can even fight for the rights of Egyptian women OUTSIDE of Egypt – WOW!!!! If you did then you would likely find many Egyptian women also doing this too! DOUBLE WOW!!!
OOOOOOO – people fighting for equality of sexes – remarkable!
While you were in the UK, you claim to have been shocked to see that some shopping centres were not hanging Christmas decorations, some schools were not performing Christmas plays. And the reason for this was that you believe is that they did not want to disrespect the Muslims in the area.
Quite apart from the fact that I personally just got back from the UK and saw none of this, I note your distinct lack of evidence in this situation. I also appreciate your WILD accusation that this was because of Muslims ‘in the area’.
I for one know that most of my Anglo-Saxon friends are not interested in Christmas decorations because they are ATHIEST. I know some shop-keepers who are like this. Ooooo. Scary isn’t it that your ‘fellow Aussies’ may be anti-Christmas for completely separate reasons to ‘appeasing Muslims’.
Now whether this is true or not; it stands that you purport to not seeing any Christmas decorations at the/a/some (?) shopping centre/s and are now panicking based on the most minutely limited amount of personal experience (that may or may not have been completely made up based on information you may or may not remember – see crime reports on ‘reliability of eye-witnesses’ for more information).
So if such things can (purportedly) happen in the UK then why couldn’t it happen here? Actually… why shouldn’t they happen here? Why should we tolerate a farcical Northern European Winter Solstice Pagan tradition with ridiculous Northern Hemisphere symbols (pine trees and balls and glitter and fake snow etc.) that have nothing to do with the alleged birthday date of a Jewish/Palestinian zombie 2000 years ago in a hot Middle-Eastern dusty town?
It would seem to some that this is the highest order of stupidity and time-wasting…
Captain Cook is documented as the first European to make contact with the East Coast of Australia and while some of his men might have been opposed to what he was doing, but what choice did they have but to follow orders –well they could have disobeyed orders but that would have led to court-martial – this is what happens in the navy – but this has nothing to do with anything related to this topic. Thank you for that brain-fart of a side-track.
While some people thought it was wrong to remove Aboriginal children from their parents and homes after the government ruled they must for the sake of the child! What choice did they have?
Hmmm… perhaps they could have dissented… Controversial huh, but this is how positive change happens. Google: ‘Mohandas K Ghandi’ or ‘Martin Luther King Junior’ or ‘Nelson Mandela’ for more details. Also I refer you back to the ‘Egyptian women’ scenario above.
So what I’m saying is not everyone agreed with what was happening, ESPECIALLY relating to inequality and they took a stand… wow.
Some Aussies like you believe that people should not be free to make their own decisions about cultural events like Christmas. You get worked up about it and blame Muslims. Previously you blamed Vietnamese. Previous to that you blamed Eastern Orthodox Greeks for ‘ruining Christmas’. Previous to that Irish Catholics or English Protestants were to blame (depending on which side of the fence you sat)… Are you beginning to see a pattern here?
This debate will rage for years to come as long as there are ill-informed ignorant recalcitrants like you willing to broadcast your stupidity to your world…
All I do know is that I am Australian and proud! I am also literate, educated and informed unlike you which makes me quite comfortably categorise you as a Bogan.
I love living in this Country and part of that love allows me to call into question things I do not like about it. I do not like Christmas for example so I don’t feel compelled to nonchalantly accept it. Unlike you, I don’t believe that living here is a “choice I make” because there is no guarantee ever that any other country will accept me. This is ‘logic’ – please do consider using Google to find out what this term means.
I value freedom of speech but scorn people like you using this as an petty excuse to make ill-informed sweeping generalisations to disguise racist (and illegal) tendencies. I also recognise that ‘freedom of speech’ is present here by convention but not enshrined in any public covenant.
But most of all I value the capacity for society to PROGRESS.
You on the other hand appear to champion STAGNATION or REGRESSION, so it is without hesitation and in the sincerest possible way that I am happy to declare my belief that you are a fucking tool. Get a life.
P.S. My real name is fucking irrelevant to this matter and I don’t really care that you posted yours.
Hello,
Thanks for a great blog.
Unfortunately the comments made on the 11 of December was made by my narrow minded bogan neigbour and I do not want my name to be associated with any kind of discrimination towards ANY race, age, gender or sexuality. I’m embarrassed for even having him as a friend on my facebook.
Please remove my name from the posts as I put down a questionmark as I thought it was a sick joke made by him. I have now removed him as a friend from facebook and to clarify- I am all for equality and gay marriages (some of my best friends are gay and I give gay people my full support in every choice they make).
Kind Regards Miriam Winkler
Check out the last post… some racist uses quotes of a minority of anti-racists on TAB to make us look bad.
Quote: “bogans should be “sterilized” … “bashed” “Killed” and in one case “gassed””
PLEASE try to refrain from using violence/threatening language etc. against these vulgar racists. I understand these poeple have NO idea how their offensive opinions are formed or how to explain their White supremacy logically.
Why should we fall to their levels? Why not outwit them through discourse??
Stupid FAGS~! Closets are for clothes not for weird ugly people to come out of.
What happened to the gay magician? he vanished with a poof. Why can’t every fag vanish? he would make the world a better place!
I had a gay cousin, the good thing is his dead and in hell.
Gays are foul immoral beasts. There is no difference between a poof and a man who has sexual intercourse with animals. Bestiality and homosexuality are disgustingly foul!
You people should be ashamed of yourselves!
I am actually mildly peturbed at the insanity in your diatribe. Are you really that mad or is this simply an act to illicit a response?
If you have a few roos loose in the top paddock then good luck – I hear there are new medications available that may help.
If you are a troll then please get a life you worthless mungbean.
If you are actually someone who places consentual interpersonal relations on a par with the abuse of animals then Google: “logic”. It may help. Numbskull.
Fuck off, moron.
^Directed @Stewart Ray
Geez Tzz, you’re on a bit of a rampage tonight aren’t you?
Great site. I love it how bogans are so picky about which immigrants they hate. It is ok to have british parents but not asian ones!?!
well, the world isnt over-populated with brits.
Are you too scared to post using your real name?
lol wat a shit page talk about gook luvin raghead fucking cuntfaces lol
Wow, you were clearly strained through a hanky, weren’t you?
If you don’t like it, leave it. I’m sure you’re familiar with the phrase.
hey admin hope some cunt bash the fuck out of ya u gook cunt
You missed the part above where it said that all three of the admins of this site are white, didn’t you? I’m glad of the reassurance that you’re mentally defective, because the idea of someone with all their marbles thinking such a violent sentiment is ok disturbs me. Just saying, “Inita”.
wow cass i’m just impressed you could understand what Inita Bonghit was saying. i wish i could read English and bogan as well.
I love how you sit on your sanctimonious stool and judge people and publish personal information about them, while you cower behind a fake screen name and a mass of sheep jumping on the band wagon for a cause they are so ignorant about. The only thing that one can conclude from this is a) you are either an Islamic follower manipulating the uncultured minds of some many stupid followers, b) you are 15 years old virgin with no life experience of education or both.
Either way what you are doing is the exact same thing that you are ‘shaming’ others for doing, the difference is they have the balls to actually stand up for their beliefs using their own names and educated information.
You see antibogan the problem with cowardly posting other peoples information on your site is; that someday you are going to come across someone who has connections…today may just be that day.
great little rant there. couple problems though
1) fake screen names…. nope not me
2)”mass of sheep jumping on the band wagon for a cause they are so ignorant about” are you sure your thinking of the right people?
3)im not islamic, im not christian im not jewish and i dont care if you are. we either treat all religion equally of dissolve all religion (personally either way i’m happy)
4) i’m not 15, i’m not under educated, are you sure your not thinking of the Australian defense league and ban the burqa?
5) the concept that tab is doing the same thing as the people it is shaming is way off. i wouldn’t be ashamed to say in a public place/job interview/ the local pub that i’m not racist would you feel shame if you stood up in those same places and said you are?
6)and finally i love hypocrisy so thank you for this. you rant and rave about how cowardly TAB is for using fake names, you call yourself “your mother” why not use your real name?
7) you then go on and throw out a threat about your connections and wonder why people use screen names?
actually dskfjhak dfhkdjshfk, the largest immigrant group in Australia is the Brits, followed by New Zealanders…obviously the myth of “yellow peril” didn’t die with the end of the 2nd world war
Er, so if there are more Asians than Brits that justifies racism? What sort of moronic argument is that?
The real argument is this. Once a particular group of people characterized by language, race, culture establish themselves, they have an inalienable right to perpetuate their ‘they-ness’… if anyone seeks to despoil that..they won’t be welcome. The formula for ‘trouble’ is this..when any one minority becomes large enough to challenge the pre existing one. Take Malaysia for example. in the 60s it was like 48% Malay/Muslim and 35% Chinese and 17% other races. In 1969 they had Malay/Chinese race riots.
If minorities are small and diverse..they are managable and acceptable. Stability of a country is only guaranteed by a strong majority of one type. Simple sociological fact.
Ah good then all we need to do to fix up Australia is to make sure the original inhabitants of this country get a fair go is by deporting the white racists.
Sounds good to me. A win all around.
The oriinal inhabitants already get a great go. If you dont agree protest on the special loan rates they are entitled to based on RACE. Or incentives to open buisnesses or the allocation of jobs for themwithin government departments. those of us are born here do not get the same deal why is that and dont site past descrepanys (spelling). For Aboriginals are entitled to these benfets not basedon their situation but based soley on RACE. this means the australian government is making RACIST policies. Good intentions yes RACIST YES. If i did not give a job to a applicant because he/she was say chinese i would be liable for a discriminaton case but for a job to be secured for a aboriginal it is OK? wake up Australia humans arehumans
Are you honestly saying that non-whites get a better deal in Australia than whites? Do you really want to enter into this debate wearing a blindfold?
Re: the ‘special loan rates’ – they are also available to non-Muslims. Get your facts straight dumb arse.
I never mentioned muslims as islam is not a race. What I did say was people who can qualify for Aboriginal satus get a lot of concessions that those who do not qualify miss out on based on race.
I did not call any one a dumb arse or other slander and will not.
please read my messages carefully before jumping to your usual replies .
If you can please explain to me ( a dumb arse) how a decision based on race is not a racist decision.
Not really sure what you’re on about here, so I’ll bite and ask the question:
Do you believe that Indigenous Australians have it better than non-Indigenous Australians?
I believe that people classified as indigenous are eligable to entitlements/concessions that others are not. All Australians should be treated equally regardless of theie heritage.
To give a concession/entitlement based on race is racist. for to give to one race and not the other is discriminatry.
And then if you are only half Indigenous do you then only receive half the benifits?
what about in the unfortunate case of adoption lets say a aboriginal baby is adoptade by a very wealthy family this child will have no finacial education or health dissadvantage in life so why would the child be entitled to incentives/ benefits other than Race. It is time ausralians were called australian not indegenous chinese arab just australians
So is it discriminatory to provide people in wheelchairs a ramp to get up stairs?
How are you disadvantaged in life, Scott? And are you aware of how disadvantaged Indigenous people have been for the past 220+ years?
Just to be sure .
Anti disrimination website says it is ok to discrimnate.
So just to be sure – the lawyer with a good job and a good home is going to feel discriminated against when he walks out of the Centrelink office after being denied access to financial assistance.
How’s your logic travelling at this point, Scott?
Oh man, the more I think about it, the more excited I become! I can’t wait to walk into Centrelink tomorrow and ask for unemployment benefits, even though I’ve got a job. I can’t wait to walk into a hospital and ask for a bed, some meals and a nurse on call despite not being sick. I can’t wait to apply for housing assistance tomorrow, despite owning my own home.
And when I’m denied each time, I’m going to write to the HREOC about being discriminated against.
Lawyer? why would a lawyer Aboriginal or not be at centerlink I dont see the relevence.
However in my case point with the two children single mum. (lets say housing commision no real bright future ahead for either children)
Please explain to me why the Indigenous child is treated differently. if you can explain this i will except your reasoning.
remember by definition a decision based n race is a racist decision.
now I am not calling you a racist (although you did mention “unique learning styles of Indigenous people”) Somthing more appropriate may read the unique learning style of children growing up in low socioeconomic communities. Dont forget indeginous brains work just as well as every other human brains. but I digress.
so again i ask you is a decision based on race a racist decision?
I
“Lawyer? why would a lawyer Aboriginal or not be at centerlink I dont see the relevence. (sic)”
That’s the point. Assistance is given to those who need it. A lawyer does not need Centrelink assistance, so is he the victim of discrimination when Centrelink refuses to give him financial assistance?
“However in my case point with the two children single mum. (lets say housing commision no real bright future ahead for either children)”
Why are you changing the story? Earlier the scenario was “…lets say a aboriginal baby is adoptade (sic) by a very wealthy family…”. If the Aboriginal child grows up to be a wealthy Aboriginal man, he will not be inclined to apply for financial assistance. Do you follow? Now if it was a ‘housing commision (sic) no real bright future’, then why on earth is the mother adopting children???
“Please explain to me why the Indigenous child is treated differently. if you can explain this i will except your reasoning.”
I cannot address this until you confirm your scenario. And while I’m trying to address your incoherent points, you’re proving to me that you haven’t bothered to read any of the information that has been made available to you in this thread.
“remember by definition a decision based n race is a racist decision.”
racism |ˈrāˌsizəm|
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
“now I am not calling you a racist (although you did mention “unique learning styles of Indigenous people”)”
They do have unique learning styles. Have you read any of the information that has been spoon fed to you yet? Also, it was only 40 years ago that Aboriginals were even considered Australians and included in the Census and allowed to vote. Can you imagine being a 10 year old Aboriginal child whose mother and father are 45 years old? Can you imagine what kind of perspectives those parents have of our education, employment and democratic rights processes and systems???
Ican not disagree with the disadvantages placed on indegenous in the past however please explain to me what these dissadvantages are at the present.
and how they are enforced by government as part of policy.
and i cannot see the relevance with the wheelchair comment.
It is the race issue we were discussing so if you provided a rramp only for indeginous or only for whites or onlr for chinese etc yes thats discriminatry was that your point because my point is the “ramp” should be given to all Australians that need a “ramp” not just to one section of society.
Is it unfair to provide assistance to those who need it, was the point, Scott.
Indigenous people have for generations been disadvantaged through direct discrimination. Only 40 years ago were they even counted as Australians in the Census and allowed to vote. And this generational disadvantage follows through to each new generation. For example, a lot are uneducated and hold little value in our education system. In fact – our education system does little to address the unique learning styles of Indigenous people.
http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/sa/indigenous/pubs/general/documents/closing_the_gap/p1.htm
Click to access 3_indigenous_disadvantage.pdf
http://www.pc.gov.au/speeches/?a=7792
http://reconciliaction.org.au/nsw/education-kit/about/
So you are telling me that it is only fair to provide assistance to those that need it. I think this is my point. All Australian citizens should be treated equally regardless of race. As a admin for this site I can not see how you harbour the point of view that disrimination is ok.
example two:
Two children same mother different fathers. Both aust citzen one 1/4 indigenous
Children are brought up by the single mother.
What further dissadvantage does the child with 1/8 indegenous over his/her sibling. And why should this child be treated differently in the eyes of government.
This is the issue i am raising with you/this website. If you wish to champion a cause you should be willing to admit that the current system is not perfect and that two wrongs never make a right. the current (reverse?) Racism should not be tollerated.. Or should it be allowed? that is the question is racism/discrimination ok as long as it is not on the minority?
A child with Aboriginal blood lines raised in a rich family with privilege, opportunity, resources and support is not going to be waiting in the queue at Centrelink waiting for an extra 15% in his pay packet.
How about you read the links you were presented with to understand:
a) the extent of Indigenous disadvantage;
b) the reasons behind Indigenous disadvantage?
Yes, I’m telling you that it is fair to provide assistance to those that need it. Is it fair if a lawyer walks into a Centrelink office and asks for financial assistance?
I suggest you read this: http://people.anu.edu.au/andrew.leigh/pdf/AuditDiscrimination_MR2.pdf
And here are similar findings in countries around the world:
http://www.hrmguide.net/canada/diversity/non-anglo.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/05/20/bc-ubc-job-study.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesanzeiger.ch%2Fzuerich%2Fregion%2Fic-und-guen-wurden-fleissig-gestrichen%2Fstory%2F29657249
Finally, have a look at this link:
http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/racism.html
Hi,
By any chance are you Scott Pengelly from Melton victoria?
no i am am not this person.
i am just a person who is questioning why Australians are treated differently based on race.
TAB will do everything to avoid the question :
Is a decision based on race a racist decision?
he will site past wrong doings by govenment, insult you even make racist claims himself but never will he answer the question.
Is a decision based on race a racist decision.
I dont think he wants to answer it.
No, a decision based on race is not necessarily a racist decision.
Next question?
Give it up Scott, TAB is just being a typical beaurocrat and avoiding the actual issue that he seems to be intent on not answering! I get your point, along with a multitude of Australians, I also agree that our government is racist – AGAINST WHITE MULTIGENERATIONAL AUSTRALIANS.
TAB – since you seem intent on taking almost evrything everyone says out of context and quoting it (sic), then all I have to say is that you are childish and moronic, you do nothing to assist your cause and only seem intent on creating anger, further intolerance and further divide! Advice; when you can’t answer something, say “I can’t answer that” instead of pis*ing people off, you are encouraging intolerance!
In terms of people whom make posts using their own PERSONAL facebook and Twitter accounts; I feel it very unprofessional and unethical of you to post their EMPLOYER! You are SLANDERING companies, as afterall, that company has NOT accepted that employee as an employee, rather the private user simply listed it, meaning that the company has in no way condoned the person or their comments! So I would watch that if I were you!
Scott has given up, as the debate has become too hard. Are you willing to address the point of argument for him? Or just go on endless rants about how small your penis is?
A single parent with two dependent children if employed receives benefits under Family Tax, rebates for child care and Centrelink benefits with attendant concessions if caring for children under six. Single parents are also highly likely to be eligible for government housing.
Being a single parent with dependent children is not a permanent condition. Most single parents are able to eventually access work and study. It’s by no means a great or desirable lifestyle. Most single parents are unfortunate victims of family breakdown, some are widowed at a young age, but most people eventually emerge, find employment, successfully raise their kids and often form new relationships.
A bit different for Indigenous people, in a society where their culture has been all but destroyed, often marginalised, often victims of generational poverty, subject still to discrimination in housing and employment and with less access to educational opportunities than their non-Indigenous peers. You can’t really “stop” being Aboriginal. There are plenty of racists around to remind you.
no just been busy , oh and its nice the reply box is a lot easier to read now.
the debate was not really going anywhere so yes i have given up this does not mean I agree with your racist agenda.
i still believe All Australian citizens should be treated equally.
And for Josh access to education is not given on race lines. More so the higher aboriginal rates you refer too may be due to the higher proportion of aboriginals living in remote areas,
but a Aboriginal living in the suburbs has the same access to public education.
just a honest question but Scot and Daniel are you under the belife that aboriginals in Australia get a better chance then white people? and if so with all the extra advantages would you want to be black?
If Scott thinks “all Australians should be treated equally regardless of theie heritage” then why does it seems in his own rants, he feels certain Australians SHOULD NOT treated equally regardless of their heritage?
Quote dskfjhak dfhkdjshfk: “well, the world isnt over-populated with brits.”
You’re joking right?
LMAO!
Nearly every white person outside of Europe is derived from a Brit you twit – ever heard of colonisation?
I… Wow. You must have a crippling level of intellectual blinkerage. Speaking of colonisation, are you aware that Britain is not the only entity in Europe? Are you familiar with the Vikings (Greenland, Iceland, almost North America), French (Cameroon, Côte d’Ivoire), Spanish (South America), Dutch (Antilles, Indonesia, almost Australia), Belgians, Portuguese, Germans, Italians etc etc etc?
your all gay towel wearing monkeys that need to fuck off back to ur home countries
Leave the towels alone. I like towels.
your mother shouldve swallowed you, one less racist bogan
at least we’ll be ok when the vogons come to destroy earth
So glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this! 🙂
Guess I have to fuck off back to Nepean Hospital then…
I like towels. They help dry me after the ritual shower.
I also like monkeys. They fling poo.
Hey pinhead, if you ain’t of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent then you need to fuck off back to your’s!!
i always thought a bogan had a mullet,wore thongs and drove v8’s,didnt see eny of that in eny of the pictures here.you blokes are fuckin daft
Ha love all the anit-racism stuff but all the pro bogan hating is classic.
Whinge about racism and call them bogans, call some a useless muslim and its bad.
Way to categorize one group and bag them even though you dont know any every ‘bogan’ is racist.
i’d visit site more for a chuckle if didnt mean it’d get more hits.
How would you describe/categorise a bogan Rob?
P.S – had a quick look at your open profile and noticed that in your ‘info’, you’ve identified ‘being racist’ as one of your interests.
Good one.
Rob has a point.
Whilst not a race, I would argue that being a bogan is a form of disability.
After all, bogans are not capable of independent thought. They are often of low intelligence and have poor impulse control.
Bogan: “The term bogan is Australian slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for an individual who is recognised to be from a lower class background or someone whose limited education, speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplifies such a background.” (sic)
I might say that based on this definition the term “Bogan” is a least discriminatory, definatley judgemental, degrading and assuming. At no point does it even imply that a bogan is RACIST.
Racist: “Racism is the belief that there are inherent differences in people’s traits and capacities that are entirely due to their race, however defined, and that, as a consequence, justify the different treatment of those people, both socially and legally.” (sic)
So, the term Bogan, in itself, is racist!! Asside from the fact that the term is used to descibe a type of person, it is “Australian” and is always used for white australians! See term “however defined”.
I am often refered to as a Bogan but I am not of: Limited education, speech, clothing and beaviour. Rather I was well raised, reasonably wealthy, well educated, well dressed and INSULTED when someone uses RACIST remarks toward me such as Bogan when I merely protest the need to protect OUR country from others!! Australia is FOUNDED on Christian beliefs and we are FORCED to eat halal meat (by way of lack of choice in mainstream suppliers) and to allow people to wear face coverings in public! If I were to attend an Islamic based society, my wife would be FORCED to wear full coverings – hence – assimilate!! So I merely expect the same courtesy, and such courtesies to be ENFORCED!! Does that make me racist? Or a Bogan?
BY DEFINITION: NO IT DOSEN’T
So perhaps fighting racism with racism is not a wise idea?!?!
The term ‘bogan’ doesn’t refer to all white Australians, in the same way that the words ‘wog’, ‘coon’, ‘nigger’, ‘nip’ and ‘monkey’ encompass entire races.
Logic fail.
Oohhhh for crying out loud Sally… where in this wide world did you latch onto ‘we hate asians’ thingy?
are you blind ? Didn’t you see the photo of the Asian man shaking hands with one of our very white blokes?
I’m MARRIED to an Asian .. my children are BI racial..part slanty eyed..part white.. (they are also beautiful)
The “Immigrants” we don’t encourage are any who wish to impose a different legal system on our land.
After all..LOOK at what happened when ‘whitey’ came here.. are you so naive as to think blacky, or yellowy, or middle easterny won’t try the same ???? ALL cultures and races seek to perpetuate themselves and reinforce their own culture, usually at the expense of ‘non them’. So… you can discuss this if you wish at adl_1683@y7mail.com with me.
theres too many gooks about u silly cunt :))
There are too many morons around, including you.
Zero highlighting on this site of extreme racism from muslims directed at non muslims…funny that
Send us any screenshots you have and we’ll post them.
Its because muslims blow people up, asians sell drugs, wogs sell drugs, arabs sell guns, drugs and stab people.
Nearly all white immigrants are very peaceful.
Please, i want to be proven wrong
Puhlease… How many Muslims, Asians, Italians, Greeks and Arabs live near you in Grosvenor, QLD?
All that really has to be done to prove you wrong is to provide evidence of white people who are selling drugs, making bombs, selling guns or stabbing people; and also to find evidence of Muslims who are not blowing people up, Asians, Italians and Greeks who are not selling drugs and Arabs who are not selling drugs and stabbing people.
Would you like me to hold your hand while you attempt that research, Stan?
Hahaha, funniest nonsense ever! Your post itself is already prejudiced and derogatory. You call that peaceful? Check the dictionary first please. You’re only embarrassing yourself.
a white guy blowing people up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l1_Z1tWPM8
a white guy who CREATED a drug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbnO5p5OH4
a white guy whos the BIGGEST illegal arms dealer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHwhDZKbTrA
a white group of guys who stabbed indian immigrant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qs4PfyTwTo
ok that was 5 minutes of YouTubing for a real obvious troll but i was interested into how long that would take
@Stan… honestly, are you kidding? Almost every screenshot on here is of white people being generally abusive and vicious. Don’t you consider that proof? What about all the articles on hate crimes?
@ theantibogan – Are you too scared to post using your real name & email?
Feel free to send us an email at aardaction@gmail.com .
*facepalm* yeah leave the door slightly open for intenet attacks… dont reveal your identity you muppet.
This page is like a breath of fresh vegitarian fart gas. I may be going out on a limb here but the more society even acnowledges the differences between us.. black white, yellow slant eyes or dirty hippy looking uni students.. the more it actually divides.. Personally I do not care what who or where you come from.. and I can happily be anti islamic anti hindu, anti atheist, well anti anything yet keep my opinions to myself..
not sure about you guys but if somthing isnt bothering anyone then really is it anyones business to poke at it… well thats about it really just another rant among rants
“….yet keep my opinions to myself..”
Yet you seem to be having some trouble with that today.
If you’re here to be an apologist for discrimination, kindly fuck yourself.
was it not you justifiing discrimination with our chat and the language you use not the nicest is it?
It’s not discrimination when it’s assistance granted on the basis of need you FUCKING SHIT-BREATH.
I’m sick of people whinging about LANGUAGE when they disengage from debate.
fucking shit breath disengage from debate?
The first reply you wrote to me you called me a dumb arse now this.
you have a website proclaiming anti disrimination yet your avitar is a violent image of someone getting kicke while on the ground.
you may be the biggest hipocryte i have ever encounted..
And it is discrimination when it is granted on the basis of race.
To grant or deny on the basis of race is racist.
you dont have to take my word for it you can look up many different dictionarys they will all say the same thin. so cal me whatever you like but failing to admit to this basic fundamental paints your whole “awareness campaign” as a joke
If you cant understand that you should ask the other admins and they might be able to help you out.
“To grant or deny on the basis of race is racist.”
Ahh, but Centrelink gives assistance on the basis of need, primarily.
Indigenous people have been the victims of racism and institutionalised discrimination for centuries. They are a marginised minority society, living as outsiders and are generally the kind of people who will end up needing educational assistance, job seeking assistance, health assistance, housing assistance and financial assistance. Have you ever had to apply for any of those things? If so, you are part of a much smaller percentage of people in regards to affiliation to your ethnic position in society, and you will find that those kinds of assistance will still very much be available to you, but on the basis of need.
If you think life is so unfair because Aboriginals can seek different avenues of support to you, then you are a whiney fucking sook.
Oh so i am a whiny fucking sook for bringing attention to disrimination?
You are the one who built a website to talk about about racism and discrimination and when someone does you call them a whiny fucking sook.
i thought everyone was equal.
You thought everyone was equal? Yet you don’t have issue with millionaires being unable to claim financial assistance. Aren’t they being discriminated against?
TAB im begining to think you are angry about somthing.
Why would a millionare seek financial assistance?
And what does it have to do with the questions I am asking you?
And Melissa if you read all the comments you will notice TAB has only tried to insult and verbally abuse me but that is cool (I think he is a angry man), and if he neesd to vent on me he can.
If a millionaire sought financial assistance, would it be UNFAIR if he was denied it?
Fuck you’re slow.
fuck im slow LOL
you are a ignoramous ( i quote infectious grooves).
A millionare would or would not be granted financial assistance based on financial circumsance. Why would I take issue with this it is not disciminatory or racist.
A person should be treated equally regardless of race this is the point.
If they were to be granted or denied financal assistance based on race and not financial circumstance it is racist!!!!!!!!!
I don’t know why the other administators let you post responses, your responses jump all over the place like the first response you gave citing a refernece to muslims?
now a reference to millionaires.
But tell me if a non indeginous applied for a job and a indiginous applied for a job and this job is reserved for indigenous applicants is this not discrimination based on race.
I may be a dumb arse,slow, blindfolded but I am not a hypocrite like you.
None tolerate discrimination.
Oh but you do tolerate and condone.
All oppose vehemently.
Vehemently maybe should change this to subjectively.
According to you, it would be discriminatory because it is not available to everyone. The Government makes decisions about finance, health and education based on need. Any person can have access to financial, health and educational assistance in this country, regardless of race. But Indigenous people have more of an extensive range of services as they have been systematically discriminated against all the way up until the early 1970’s and continue to feel the effects of that until this day. There is an enormous gap in the educational outcomes of Indigenous people, as well as life expectancy and consequently employment and housing.
Who knows what the hell you’re talking about Scott. Your sentences seem like they’ve been put together by a 6 year old playing with fridge magnet letters.
Buddy, Alex is asking your name, not your email. Don’t constantly masturbate your brain by avoiding precise questions. Besides, show your face on this site instead of playing undercover agent, reporting, copy and paste like a parrot. You must be spending lazy hours behind your screen all day peeking on FB, Twitter and other sites to find what? Everyone knows it already, so get a life, you coward. Sooo easy to hide behind anonymity. Your propaganda goes nowhere. One day, someone with the same senile brain as you but from the opposite side will corner you. Don’t complain when that day comes.
Huh?
LOL @ ‘Don’t constantly masturbate your brain by avoiding precise questions.’
Yeah good one. Ha ha. Hmm.
What?
ROFLMAO what a joke!
Great site and a harsher but appropriate complement to Things Bogans Like.
This is the dark underbelly of the boofheads highlighted there.
Indeed.
And just above this post too, it seems.
LOL love that picture! Wish more of his worshippers would follow that example.
Hey, you cunts still owe the blacks compensation, you said sorry, now wheres the money, hey
well… a couple of them tried it..and the high court judgements make interesting reading.
look for me at Koala732 blog 🙂
Errr… Another ADL loon hey John? Kindly fuck off
compensation woul be the great health care and houses the majority of “blacks” now live in.
Positive discrimination, is still discrimination. TAB seem to forget that, as well as the fact that all the “ills” suffered by indigenous Australians were committed in the main, a long time ago. Every generation since has had to pay for those past deeds. Saying sorry was no good, the apology wasn’t accepted, the day after that apology I was working in a remote Goldfields town at the courthouse, and I was still the same white dog cunt as the day before. Handing over fistfuls of money is a cynical vote buying exercise in maintaining welfare dependency. The first $5,000 baby bonus had the town flooded with all the aborigines blowing it on piss, TV’s, cars (they would pool it and get a decent car for the whole extended family to use), the callout rates for police and ambulance services spiked when the money hit their accounts.Job applications ask for ethnicity, benefit applications ask for ethnicity, aborigines can access ALL public health services, but whites cannot present at the aboriginal health services facilities, aboriginals can access ALL legal resources including legal aid from the government, but whites cannot access the aboriginal legal service. Aboriginals who don’t pay their ambulance costs (in WA at least), after a certain period of time have them waived. The housing they are provided which ends up trashed is repaired at taxpayer expense, when in the rare circumstance an aboriginal family is evicted after long drawn out and expensive processes and appeals and judgements, the news are all over it, and they scream blue murder. Meanwhile the white family getting evicted doesn’t even make the news, unless the person makes a fuss or a stand like deliberately sleeping in a car and getting the media to come along. So at the end of the day the fact that it is dressed up in quaint terms as community cohesion and integration, and positive discrimination, or enabling, the fact is, the state discriminates when it provides resources and benefits to people based on race (why else would they ask for heritage on applications?). To say they don’t have the same opportunities is wrong, they have the same opportunities to get educated, get a job and use the brains we all know they have, but most choose not to, they rely on welfare from generation to generation, they say it is cultural to live in remote areas where they know there are very low job prospects. My work in the court system allowed me to see all of this first hand, to see the resources given to the indigenous offenders and their families, but the simple fact remains they have all the opportunities we have but choose not to use them or pursue them, apart from the minority who are hard working diligent productive members of the community. The crushing cycle of poverty and disadvantage is kept ticking over by government and vested interests, the aboriginal industry is huge, and it milks money from communities into the pockets of so called “representatives”, who negotiate on their behalf, or who help them with funding for community projects. Take for instance a cultural heritage survey on a proposed mine site. The representative body of the local aborigines objects to the application as standard, they then work out with the mining company the logistics of a survey prior to withdrawing the objection. The representative then arranges x amount of “elders” or community leaders to go with the mining companies geological, environmental and cultural officers onto the ground. The company pays the representative x amount of dollars a day for each aboriginal person on the field trip, the mining company hires or provides vehicles, they provide all the food required, they supply everything, the aborigines just turn up. The group then drive grid lines across the site, conscientious aboriginal people make notes and point out areas of significance, the other less conscientious, read the paper, put their feet up and sleep (again I have been there done that).
The representative gets say $250 a day per aboriginal person on the field trip, they in turn get $100 a day. That is the aboriginal industry in action right there.
Very clever, did you do that all on your own? This the best you can come up with to something that challenges your perceptions?
In your world a heap of racist intolerant rubbish is supposed to “challenge perceptions”?
Sorry you have the wrong planet.
How the fuck is any of that racist or intolerant? You cockheads lose the plot every time you see or hear something you don’t like., I guess all 5 people who come on here for their group wank like the shit you post.
No baby. You lost credibility with your first thousand posts here. From now on, I read the first and last few words of your incoherent paragraph-less rants and then entertain myself by giving you something to bite on.
I fucked your dad.
Well you enjoy your little game of insults and stereotyping, the fact that fuck all people come on here, and that your supporter base would fit into a phone box is quite funny.
Phone box huh? You were saying…?
YOUR ALL A PACK OF GUTLESS CUNTS HIDING BEHIND A COMPUTER. PUTING SHIT ON PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR VIEWS. LETS SEE A BUNCH OF UNVIERSITY STUDENTS WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO. WHY DON’T YOU GET A JOB AND PAY SOME MORE TAX SO US BLACK CUNTS CAN TAKE MORE, HEY
What exactly is an “UNVIERSITY”? If by “UNVIERSITY” you mean university I can see why you are so hostile to people who go to them, you feel dejected and inadequate because you were too stupid to get into an “UNVIERSITY”, I mean a university. And therefore have a loathing for people who get university degrees because they do not strive for the same levels of mediocrity that your bogan aspirations have lead you to embrace.
Touché!
If you look at the ‘About Us’ section which is conveniently located above all these comments, you’ll notice that one site moderator is retired, and one is a lawyer suggesting neither are ‘UNVIERSITY’ students.
There is one lawyer, and another moderator who is self-employed indicating they have jobs, and do pay taxes.
Just sayin’.
Hi Jess, so …in your marketing study I guess you’ve heard of Edward Bernays ? consider this.
Bernays was Freud’s nephew….. Freud passed on the info about the subconcious to Eddy..who translated that into ‘marketing’… short version ..”sex sells”… he invented public relations. If you’ve not seen it…. this is a must see for marketing people “The Century of the Self” (youtube)..but back to my story. Bernays and Freud.. were Jewish.
Bernays wrote a book called “Engineering consent” which explained how to manipulate mass opinion… betcha can’t guess who bought the book ?…. “Joseph Goebbels”….Hitlers propaganda minster. Considering how it all ended for the Jews… one is tempted to describe that process as the ultimate irony of history.
I wish I had a backbone..
Er, make that above THIS post.
Very illuminating to see the trolls’ dribbles. How’s the weather in Victoria “John Jigaboo”?
And “university” is spelt thus. Learn to spell before you make an idiot of yourself again on a public blog.
The weather was good in Victoria about a week ago, I have been riding my Harley through the NT, bit warm, but not a Mosque in sight. Sorry bout the spelling error, I do type a bit quick sometimes. Joshy, Joshy, Joshy you are being a bit hard on me. Fuck head
http://www.ziggy.com.au/white%20pride.htm
THIS IS WHO WE ARE!
And this is how much we care: 0
Ziggy I am white but you and your kind do not speak for me and never will. Do not EVER presume to do so.
I read your site, the ignorance and racism is appalling.
It’s just a bunch of regurgitated crap from the usual dead shit circulations, re-branded as his own thoughts and opinions, which nobody really cares about.
Hey – just started reading! It’s nice to see an intelligent blog written well and in good humour, responding to the horrible nonsense racism. Many times I have found myself sick to the stomach when an acquaintance has surprised me with a “wink wink, nudge nudge, I’m white, you’re white, so let’s bag the Asians and the Abos” attitude. Merely the fact that they assume their views are so widespread that I will automatically share them too is a fright! Time to start openly and honestly addressing the not-so-secret problem of racism in Australia.
Exactly Pedestrienne. Racism ignored is racism accepted.
and racism needlessly publicised is racism promoted AB is it not?
Racism ignored is racism accepted.
… and racism regurgitated for the purposes of ridicule is a surefire way to get blog hits. 😉
Pedestrienne… please equip yourself on how the current generation has been utterly brainwashed by the likes of Herbert Marcuse and his Frankfurt school ilk.. by viewing this informative doco “The history of Political Correctness” youtube. But if you roilllly want to be brought up to speed and even understand politics aah..that will take you FOUR hours of watching “The Century of the Self” on google vids..or youtube.
I promise…you will actually have an indepedent mind after all that. (might be a bit lonely though as I don’t see too many here on this blog)
Intelligent and in good humour, these muppets are foul mouthed, brainwashed leftards who need mummys help to get out of the basement.
So you’re exposing these people that you call “racist” we can see their names and faces.
How bout you guys show yourselves instead of hiding behind masks?
Big and tough aren’t you?
Where’s your face and name then, ‘showus@hotmail.com’?
Racism apologist – no time for you.
Cowardly racist hypocrit.
Are you calling me Racist?
You were called a racism apologist. You haven’t said anything racist, but you imply that the people who appear on this blog are not racist, as you’ve placed the word ‘racist’ in inverted commas.
After doing this, you attempt to divert the attention from the ‘racists’ in this blog to the fact that none of three authors of this blog feel comfortable in providing photos of themselves. Hypocritical, seeing as though you’re posting without a photo, under the name ‘Butterfly’.
Hope this clears things up for you, bogan.
Hiding? I’m using my real name “Butterfly”. I don’t believe we need to prove that we’re “tough” either.
Nazi dittobots: outraged at having their own words accurately quoted back at them, since 2010.
Hahaha wow… I only just read that linked page.
Further proof that there is no such thing as an intelligent fascist apologist.
Ok, so now you called me Bogan. That is slander.
Ah no it’s not. Nor is my curiosity about whether you are a racist or not. Are you a racist Acherontia?
No i am not a racist.
why its ok for you to slander someone you don’t even know by calling them a bogan and then point out every bit of racism from facebook?
Meaning of slander (noun)
an abusive attack on a person’s character or good name; defamation; denigration.
By calling me a Bogan, that is an attack on my character.
“You’re a fuck up, you’re a joke, you’re a clown, take your pants down. Get fucked you fucking fuckwit…” – Frenzal Rhomb.
By your very definition, you have tasted foot. Your character/good name has not been attacked, as nobody knows who you are. You use a fake email address (showus@hotmail.com) and you go by the name ‘Butterfly’.
It’s only slander and defamation if you are posting under your real name.
It depends on how you feel about bogans. If you don’t like bogans, you’re with theantibogan. If you think bogans are getting a rough deal on here, then chances are that you are a racist apologist. The meaning of the word bogan has changed over time too – don’t consider for a second that it still has it’s 1980s meaning/s.
AB, please define the current definition of Bogan as your obviously superior intellect understands it so we mere mortals may become enlightened and therby more become more understanding as to why your Bogan prejudice is appropriate yet a Bogans percieved intolerances apparently are not.
Not withstanding the spelling and grammatical errors you have mentioned numerous times already.
Regards
Anti-Anti Bogan
I think it has been established that the term ‘bogan’ can be defined in more than one way. Most dictionaries cannot trace the etymology of the word, nor can they agree on one singular definition.
It’s obvious what you are eluding to, however, and that is that by using the word ‘bogan’, we are discriminating against people from the lower class. You might have a leg to stand on, that is, if you could find any sliver of evidence of any TAB author discriminating on the basis of socio-economic class as opposed to discriminating on the basis of racist/sexist/discriminatory behaviour.
Not one single post on our website suggests that those who earn less than the median wage are lesser people. What we often elude to is that those who are racist or sexist are generally less educated (and this is oft highlighted through our observations of spelling and grammar as a SIDE POINT). Coming from a poor background is not necessarily linked to having a lesser education, as public education is free all the way through until the end of University, and the responsibility of academic progress is on the student – not on the person funding the education.
Hopefully this answers your question. It’s important to note that nobody here gives a crap whether you’re satisfied with the response or not.
DirtyNicko,
Hope the following link will help you understand the definition of a bogan. That is clearly what this blog refers to as a ‘bogan’ as opposed to the traditional use of the term.
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/when-you-put-words-in-the-public-domain-you-will-be-held-responsible/#comment-9982
A computer with the Internet has an I.P address, that is all i need, no I.P address is the same.
ok well thats all good and fine, I will be taking this website to a Current Affair and any other news reporter i can think of.
I hope that this is the attention you people were after.
“A computer with the Internet has an I.P address, that is all i need, no I.P address is the same.”
Huh?
Yes, please take this to A Current Affair. They will most likely view the evident breaches of our racial discrimination legislation, and captured abuse that breaches the telecommunications act and thank us.
If you are here to excuse racism and discrimination, kindly go and fuck yourself with a beanbag.
Well, this was posted in April.. ACA must be taking its time getting to this story hey?
Either that, or they rejected you. Being rejected by ACA… the show that will put any crap on air… how does it feel?
Butterfly research less talk.
A Computer does not always have the same IP Address, as when the computer’s IP address is assigned newly each time, this is known as using a dynamic IP address.
But in saying words are an attack on your character with a name like Butterfly would you be playing Madame Butterfly on the stage or in a movie?
Only a bogan would take something to A Current Affair.
Sure, and i will make sure they know about the lovely people running this site “kindly go and fuck yourself with a beanbag.”
What wonderful statements you have for human kind!
You really need to be more thick skinned, ‘Butterfly’. Perhaps if you came here with some relevant discussion points and didn’t criticise our showcasing of racism in Australia, you might not have put us on the back foot about you so quickly.
But once again, by all means – go to A Current Affair. We don’t mind the publicity, and it will help ordinary Australians witness this hideously accessible racism as being real and current.
Oh, Butterfly. I keep typing all these messages to you, and then realising they’re pointless (and condescending).
Maybe just have a cup of tea and a honey sandwich? Then, would you like to have a proper discussion of what bothers you about this blog?
I don’t appreciate being called names.
That is all
Righto. I’d get a bit het up about being called a bogan too. Hope in the future if you want to post any comments we can have a decent dialogue.
Wait…
Did the new bogan-bot just refer to A Current Affair as a news organisation?
If you honestly wanted to be taken seriously, forget about it now.
Seriously.
I find that assertion so funny I can’t even laugh about it.
But, to grant a flimsy premise for the sake of completely annihilating it, i’d love for ACA/TT to do a huge beat up piece on how unAustralian the esteemed team behind the Antibogan are… would fit in there nicely with their regularly scheduled white-backlash hysteria.
And because they have a penchant for not researching anything (unless it’s placing a 24-hour-7-day paparazzi hit-squad on some vapid piece of human waste like Lara Bingle), it’s not inconceivable that they actually run with the piece.
But still, new troll, whilst there is plenty of bogans ridiculed on this fine blog, it’s not like they’re being publicly exposed for doing nothing…
Their words speak – when you can glean the gist through the tangle of grammatical bombs, bloopers and boners – for themselves.
They have not been misquoted or edited in anyway.
If they were so embarrassed by the implications or associations of statements made, they would not have made them in the first place.
It’s hilarious to see how many of the most hardcore zealots are tripping over themselves to declare themselves ‘not racist!’ after placing themselves on the public record defending the totally antithetical position.
If this is a case of slander, then surely the wounds are self inflicted?
John Stuart-Mill defended the free-speech principle with the following qualification: (paraphrase) the answer to abhorrent speech is not less free speech, but more.
It seems to me that the Antibogan guys are operating expressly from the same principle.
Yes we laugh at bogans, ridicule is always the best response to unintelligible propositions.
But it’s also a fine way of channeling emotion in a useful way- it’s much better to laugh at the manifest illiteracy of ‘white-culture’ advocates, than sob at the thought of so many heartless, willfully ignorant and cruel people declaring themselves ‘Aussies’ (a label that I, and I imagine that i’m not the only one, ONCE wore with a certain amount of pride).
And though you don’t seem to have researched any further than asking Derrr-in or Nutzi-Nick why you should be outraged, I should just point out that i’ve read some fucking terrific pieces (like that posted here, but attributed to Ghassan Hage: https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/a-day-in-the-life-a-lebanese-australian/) that I don’t know that I would have stumbled upon otherwise.
This is the free-speech principle in action- countering hateful, vicious, violent and deeply, deeply stupid speech with a moving personal account of the multicultural, secular society at work.
Which has only compelled you idiots to babble louder, and ever more incoherently.
When you can string two sentences back, and have at least SOME knowledge of history and world-affairs, i’d be more than happy to debate you again.
Next.
Wait…
Did the new bogan-bot just refer to A Current Affair as a news organisation?
If you honestly wanted to be taken seriously, forget about it now.
Seriously.
I find that assertion so funny I can’t even laugh about it.
But, to grant a flimsy premise for the sake of completely annihilating it, i’d love for ACA/TT to do a huge beat up piece on how unAustralian the esteemed team behind the Antibogan are… would fit in there nicely with their regularly scheduled white-backlash hysteria.
And because they have a penchant for not researching anything (unless it’s placing a 24-hour-7-day paparazzi hit-squad on some vapid piece of human waste like Lara Bingle), it’s not inconceivable that they actually run with the piece.
But still, new troll, whilst there is plenty of bogans ridiculed on this fine blog, it’s not like they’re being publicly exposed for doing nothing…
Their words speak – when you can glean the gist through the tangle of grammatical bombs, bloopers and boners – for themselves.
They have not been misquoted or edited in anyway.
If they were so embarrassed by the implications or associations of statements made, they would not have made them in the first place.
It’s hilarious to see how many of the most hardcore zealots are tripping over themselves to declare themselves ‘not racist!’ after placing themselves on the public record defending the totally antithetical position.
If this is a case of slander, then surely the wounds are self inflicted?
John Stuart-Mill defended the free-speech principle with the following qualification: (paraphrase) the answer to abhorrent speech is not less free speech, but more.
It seems to me that the Antibogan guys are operating expressly from the same principle.
Yes we laugh at bogans, ridicule is always the best response to unintelligible propositions.
But it’s also a fine way of channeling emotion in a useful way- it’s much better to laugh at the manifest illiteracy of ‘white-culture’ advocates, than sob at the thought of so many heartless, willfully ignorant and cruel people declaring themselves ‘Aussies’ (a label that I, and I imagine that i’m not the only one, ONCE wore with a certain amount of pride).
And though you don’t seem to have researched any further than asking Derrr-in or Nutzi-Nick why you should be outraged, I should just point out that i’ve read some fucking terrific pieces (like that posted here, but attributed to Ghassan Hage: https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/a-day-in-the-life-a-lebanese-australian/) that I don’t know that I would have stumbled upon otherwise.
This is the free-speech principle in action- countering hateful, vicious, violent and deeply, deeply stupid speech with a moving personal account of the multicultural, secular society at work.
Which has only compelled you idiots to babble louder, and ever more incoherently.
When you can string two sentences back to back, and have at least SOME knowledge of history and world-affairs, i’d be more than happy to debate you again.
Next.
Bla Bla Bla, no matter what anyone says u people are one better, its u guys against the world isn’t it.
Regardless of the things you say and do, you will never change my thoughts and opinions.
I’ll leave you to your little corner.
Goodbye
Damn. Because the only reason theantibogan exists is so we can change the mind of a dead shit internet troll called ‘Butterfly’.
Damn damn damn.
Hahaha had to laugh at that one
Hey Butterly, you have a friend in me, these three clowns are just gutless little wannabe’s. They started this blog to try and make a name for themselves, and to be straight up, they are. They are attracting a group of misguided fuckwits that live sheltered lives and have not experienced the real world. The anti bogan crew are just a group of boys that were all picked on at school, why not check their profiles. One still thinks he’s a kid, doing bombs in a pool and mentions his passion for gay movies, the next wears an animal mask, just to remind himself of his first and only sexual encounter, and the third considers himself the ‘Enforcer’, but look at the clothing, pops pants and braces and a slick 1920′ hairdo. Don’t take offence to what they say, Butterly, they are just trying be cool.
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And by the way antibogan, STOP THE FUCKEN BOATS RUDD YOU FUCKWIT, AUSTRALIA HAS HAD ENOUGH, SEND THE CUNTS BACK OR SINK EM, HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, the staple bogan rational for their misguided moronic beliefs. “The Real World”. Oh of course, those who don’t share their idiotic world view OBVIOUSLY don’t live in “the real world”. And, what kind of bogan protohuman couldn’t condescend to insults and childish tormenting by claiming those they attack are themselves childish “One still thinks he’s a kid, doing bombs in a pool and mentions his passion for gay movies”, not to mention questioning of sexuality, as bogans fear their own homosexual feelings and so externalize their self hate. Of course the childish idiocy doesn’t stop there; see how the bogan continues to deride the presumed sexuality of the second of its objects of vitriolic nonsense: “the next wears an animal mask, just to remind himself of his first and only sexual encounter”. The bogan once again externalizes their own aberrant sexual deviations onto others, in this case bestiality. Now to the last, the bogan states: “the third considers himself the ‘Enforcer’, but look at the clothing, pops pants and braces and a slick 1920′ hairdo”. No doubt the bogan considers himself as an, perhaps the, “Enforcer”, whatever that is. No doubt, in the infantile mind of the bogan a person dressed in “pops pants and braces and [with] a slick 1920′ hairdo” cannot possibly be an “Enforcer”, again, whatever that is. The bogan finishes with “they are just trying be cool”. Of course that’s all they are doing, trying to combat racist bigotry is just their cover, they are actually “just trying be cool”. Heaven forbid someone should try to be cool.
Then the boganous cretin externalises their idiocy and totalises it as something pertaining to Australia in general with: “STOP THE FUCKEN BOATS RUDD YOU FUCKWIT, AUSTRALIA HAS HAD ENOUGH, SEND THE CUNTS BACK OR SINK EM” assuming it has some mandate to speak on behalf of the entire country. No doubt in the underdeveloped intellect of the bogan anyone who doesn’t agree with its own silly beliefs about the “real world” is “un-Australian” (let’s not confuse bogans by explaining that the difficulty is actually defining what Australian is, one might suggest they read some Benedict Anderson, unfortunately his book doesn’t have enough pictures to hold the bogans attention). Yes, the bogan is indeed easy intellectual prey for people who actually use their ability to think beyond mediocrity and parochialism; unfortunately the bogan is also easy prey for unscrupulous politicians and business men who manipulate petty nationalisms for their own advantage, usually at the expense of the very bogans who swallow their nationalistic shit.
In short: Bogan, go fuck yourself, no one wants YOU around you mindless gimp. We would rather have a million immigrants of any nationality, religion or colour than even one bogan fucktard like you.
Yeah Butterly, these three clowns are all well educated, it appears that the cock that wrote the latest comment considers himself a bit of a lawyer. The comments reek of hypocracy, as they use fake names and will not dare post there own email address. So, send me an email, mey email address is for real, maybe we could get together, Butterfly.
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ANTIBOGAN TAKES IT UP THE ASS, DO DA, DO DA. G Banger, what a name you fucken cock.
Butterfly, email me at jigaboojohn@hotmail.com its a fair dinkum email address, I will reply.
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Hey antibogan, hows you personal violence orders going? Did you have any luck taking em out on one John J Jigaboo??????????? We are all still waiting patiently.
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YOU GUYS ARE FUCKEN HOPELESS
Well none of us have taken any out, but a lady (M.C) may want to take you up on an email you sent to her a while ago… Yes, the IP addresses match. Yes, the Police would consider that enough evidence to warrant charges. Perhaps you should take a break for a few more days, and quit impersonating Darrin Hodges. He fails enough as it is without your assistance.
hahahahaHAAAAA!! good one TAB! 😀
I think it’s time to remind Jigapoo and Death’s Head Moth that racism and discrimination are illegal under Commonwealth and State laws. Everywhere in this country. Including on Facebook and any other website or social networking site that can be viewed in Australia no matter what its country of origin. The same as if you wrote it in the newspaper.
So your “defamation” rubbish has no legs.
So be grateful all you get so far is scorn and ridicule heaped upon you.
Though we can also alert the authorities as we would if we saw evidence of child exploitation, or phishing scams, or any other criminal activity on the Net. Like hate speech for instance.
Hear, Hear!
This site strikes down bigotry with the same herd-like ignorance that bigots maintain to strike down minorities.
Elevate your tactics above reactionary yelling or don’t bother trying to represent the side of people who consider their values before accepting them. You aren’t helping by being aggressive. You’re taking the movement backwards.
This website doesn’t aim to strike down bigotry, just expose it. Thanks for dropping by.
and gain 15 minutes of fame
Why Sam, are you worried this blog is actually scoring some runs?
Being nice to racists and bigots does not work.
Join to stop the employment and housing rackets used by the Libs to drive Australian Living Conditions down.
no457s@gmail.com
Oh let me guess…it’s Addled Jack and his boys’ club. My mum warned me about guys like you.
Thanks for baiting the racists; it’s always funny to imagine them bashing away furiously on a keyboard, with a furrowed brow, trying ever so hard to justify their views while using racial slurs and threats of physical abuse to ‘win’ the argument.
Australia is a great place and I love it more than any other country, but sometimes I’m ashamed to be sharing the same land mass with people who want to disadvantage it by denying migrants and their cultures the right to live here based purely on ‘AWOL FIFO’, ‘WHITE PRIDE’ etc
How would you like the indigenous Australians to kick you out? What I’m trying to say is, This isn’t our country and it never was and never will be, we’re all migrants. Quit trying to take ownership, get over it, grow up and educate yourselves with facts and not hate; you’re giving the rest of us a bad name.
Hello all, 🙂
Thanks for effort you’ve all put into this thread. You’ve made it very entertaining to read, I’ve particulary enjoyed posts from whatyoureadingfor in regards to the credibility of a current affair and today tonight as legitimate news organisations and reading Ziggy’s website on white pride. It’s not something I had considered before.
It’s clear to see that you’re all very passionate about your particular views and it definately does make for very interesting reading. I’ve been meaning to contribute something to this thread for some time now, but I’ve never really had anything to say. But I will say one thing, although it is sensational to see young people standing up for what they believe in, perhaps you might wish to consider moving away from name calling. I know that you all might think that the calibre of individual you debate with is often less than your own. but If someone is stupid, it’s merely a matter of time before they open their mouths and confirm it.
I think Sam summed it up quite well if somewhat harshly,
“Elevate your tactics above reactionary yelling” and “you aren’t helping by being aggressive. You’re taking the movement backwards.”
I think a number of very clearly intelligent young people such as Josh, and whatareyoureadingfor are being riled by the likes of Mr Jigaboo. There are both sharp and equipped people on both sides of any argument, and it’s a shame to see that you’re being blatently stirred up by profanity and low level character attack so some odd fellow can have a giggle on the other side of keyboard.
I commend you for stepping up to be hero’s of equality, but if you are, don’t reduce the impact and credibility of what you have to say by stooping to entertain childish remarks. If you feel that you are intellectually superior and better qualifed to have an opinion, let that be reflected in how you say what you wish to.
Feel free to dismiss my suggestions, it’s a risk we all take by sharing our opinions. But if you would like to be taken seriously, by people that actually matter, it might be worth your while to consider it.
Thank you and keep up the good work, I’ll continue reading regardless of any backlash this post may attract.
Good luck and Kind regards
Chris.
Jigaboo et. al has/have been banned. They were left around in the early days to promote activity on the blog.
As for this website doing the wrong thing, we disagree. Please refer to the disclaimer. It is important to note (and this was not made obvious) that the authors of the blog are very heavily involved in other areas of anti-racism activism outside of this blog and go about their activities in very understanding and knowledge-building, discussion-promoting ways. Racism is a cancer that needs to be treated in a number of ways – sometimes rationality doesn’t work, and you need a bit of ‘let’s make racism look fucking stupid’ on the side. Enter theantibogan.
But appreciate your comments and the way you presented them. We look forward to having you comment more regularly Chris.
It’s interesting…it could almost be hilarious…that the anti-bogans/anti-racists/anti-whites/anti-Australians keep referring to Australian laws against “racism” or ‘discrimination’!
Because, apparently, Australia has no standing in their eyes usually as a nation because we “stole” the land we made this nation on from the Aboriginals.
Laws, statutes, and policies that Australia used to have to protect itself and the population? No, they don’t seem to count, they don’t matter, they were ‘discriminatory’. They had to be gotten out of the way. Forgetting of course that they are largely why these “anti-racists” had such a safe and comfortable country to grow up in…AND why so many foreigners want in here for a ‘better life’!
So, in an ‘illegal’ nation on ‘stolen’ ground…it’s the new laws that favour foreigners that matter.
Also, conveniently, it’s amazing how ‘anti-racists’ flit between decrying Australia as a “stolen” nation with no legal status…AND demanding that Australia, as a sovereign nation, observe UN declarations on refugees when it suits!
The contradictions of the multi-cult/anti-racist movement are dizzying!
Hi here as well Scott!
I love their contradictions about as much as I love our hypocracy!
We’ll beat them – one illogical uniformed and unsubstantiated argument at a time!
What hypocrisy (or even hypcracy as the case may be) do you mean?
Can any liberal, for once, try and explain and back up what they say?
That though, is likely yet another example of the constant contradiction of the left.
Which is seriously illi-informed, only logical in the coldest and most callous sense, and who’s attempts at “argument” are woefully unsubstantiated, at best.
Hey Scott!
Let’s lead by example shall we?
Let’s show those liberal multicultists that our arguments are sound by providing REFERENCES and links to LEGITIMATE websites to back our claims – since they seem hell bent on not backing up what they say.
Take for example – our fear that we are being swamped by inv-Asians.
I’ve found the following EVIDENCE that this is the case and will now provide it to the PINKOS to back our claims that OUR public transport system is being flooded!!!!
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r237303_956909.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/27/2315619.htm&usg=__WzWD4TN52ZTYkA_SdCu-HE1s0jQ=&h=506&w=840&sz=85&hl=en&start=0&sig2=AdLbbLjetILLX49MEuFsCQ&zoom=1&tbnid=onIXrJtsyETn9M:&tbnh=113&tbnw=188&ei=qWONTKWaOsm3ceGWoJUE&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dphoto%2Bon%2Ba%2BMelbourne%2Btrain%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1209%26bih%3D818%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=894&vpy=98&dur=16&hovh=174&hovw=289&tx=197&ty=123&oei=qWONTKWaOsm3ceGWoJUE&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0
Now click on the link and you will see JUST HOW FLOODED WE ARE!!!!
PROOF – I JUST PROVIDED IT!!!
Now your turn Scott….
Sorry that link was a little long – try this instead:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/27/2315619.htm
One photo?
Go and stick that right up you fucking ass!
I am NOT going to be told that I am not enduring what I do each day now!
Australians are NOT going to be told that we are “imagining” what we face, endure, and suffer every day now!
Multicultists seem to think they can wave their hands, like some Jedi mind trick, and have us believe that *what’s happening is not happening*, *you’re not seeing what you’re seeing*, *this is not occurring*…and it’s bullshit, total bullshit.
I ride…we ride…on buses and trains every day…and they are fucking paked to the gills, stuffed, crammed, CROWDED FULL…of Asians, Arabs, Indians, Islanders, Africans, and God know’s what else!
It was not like this even five years ago!
You cannot pretend what is happening, isn’t.
We’re not going to be lied to, we’re not stupid, we’re not going to have the wool pulled over our eyes.
It’s VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS the various races of these masses, newly arrived, and NOT Australians, and that the gibberish they are all spouting is not English!
You all want, insanely, to “de-whiten” Australia…and do you THINK it wouldn’t be fucking obvious as that happens?
What in God’s name do you think is going to happen as you “welcome”(?!) hundreds of thousands of foreigners into a civil, orderly, white country?
I ride on the trains of Melbourne ever day, I KNOW very well that I am crammed in with hordes of people that should NOT be here!
One would be fortunate to see three or four other White/Australian faces on our over-crowded buses and trains now.
I see what is going on, I KNOW what is going on!
I ride on our buses and trains.
DO YOU???
Nobody wants to ‘de-whiten’ Australia. All along we’ve been saying that we don’t care what a person looks like, as long as they are positively contributing members of society.
Enough with the buses and trains. You’re referring to a problem with transport infrastructure, not a superiority held by white people over non-white people. You do realise that your very presence on the buses and trains takes away the space available for other passengers too, right?
Oh my god… more than 30 years of socialism, hey-you-from-the Maghreb-feel-free-to-come-in-my-country, massive immigration in Europe has proven that it is a total failure. Did you hear latest report from Merkel in Germany and other politicians in France, UK and Belgium? And now we are going to try it or implement it in Australia? You must be joking !!! No way. When I fly to my country, Australia, I don’t want to arrive in an airport full of blacks, arabs at customs, bagage handling, counters… like in Paris… or UK. I want to see my good Aussies fellas. Not some communautarism melting pot of people who are here to make a buck, get the citizenship, make 10 kids in name of Allah… Sorry, not in my name buddy, and many others.
Go away.
I ride on the Melbourne train and tram network and scott, you are lying. You choose to see colour wherever you go, you could see two white guys doing something wrong and think nothing of it but if you saw two black guys doing the same thing, you’d remember it. you are biased.
A perfect example is your own facebook page, with you cracking it about 1 middle eastener killing a police officer and wanting to deport them all because they’re apparently all killers. Can they all be blanketed by one idiots mistakes? and if they can……well I think that puts us all in a pretty bad position….. most of those kiddy fiddling priests seem pretty damn white to me, wanna be lumped in with them? How about that idiot in port arthur eh? wanna be likened to him? No? Of course not, that is unreasonable.
Again, i ride the met system too and I love it. I don’t always get a seat but I very often do, In all of my many many rides, I could count the bad experiences I’ve had on one hand, that’s less than the bank. Should I hate the bank?
Went to Melbourne on Wednesday and got back today. I go to Melbourne about 8 – 10 times per year. Transport was on time and reliable every day. I got a seat nearly every time. Facts and projections for Melbourne suggest that road transport makes up over 91% of transport, and that walking and bicycle use are the fastest growing forms of transport.
Dear Scott,
Of course I don’t ride on trains!
I’m rich – I have a driver.
You are poor – you have no driver.
I feel very dirty when I have to travel with poor people.
Especially poor white people who have squandered away the hard work their Anglo forefathers put in to making this the best country on earth.
Especially poor white people who have the superior intelligence Anglo gene but are too fundamentally useless to utilise it.
That better not be you Scott or our friendship is over!
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I thought you lads and lasses would get a laugh out of this little gem I came across.
I think the Australian Protectionist Party is summed up quite well here.
Sure it is immature, but aren’t we all sometimes?
Regards
It’s trendy and unfortunately easy to pay out on ‘bogans’ or ‘white trash’. I wish this site had a little more intellectual vigour that would allow it to see the dramatic shifts that are occurring in our society.
I found this article today (covering the topic of racism) that would be too hot (and dare I say uncomfortable) for this site to cover. I find it tedious what this site covers…I would much prefer that this site tried to explore the real issues…the real reason why we see racism; and its root causes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3634265/In-defence-of-the-white-working-class.html?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4ce59383b6d67e7f%2C0
You must feel like a real hero, coming here and dictating what we choose to ‘cover’ and what we don’t. If there’s a blog void in your life, fill it. I don’t head to fashion blogs and complain about how they don’t discuss Havaianas anymore.
You’re right, I have better things to do than argue with narrow-minded intellectual lightweights. Good luck with your blog…but just a tip before I leave, if you did some research on the subject (instead of relying on headlines and media reports) you’d know that the drivers of racism are only set to increase in the foreseeable future in Australia. If you really cared about racism it’s this that you should be concerned with.
Anyway, best of luck in whatever your (anti?) hate site is trying to achieve anyway.
Hi Shane,
Thanks for your feedback. I’ll be sure to pretend to give a shit by giving you a quick response.
We’ve done the research, and we know what drives racism. We know generally who drives it, and why. This website doesn’t claim to be a one dimensional racism killer, no sir. It just highlights the barbaric stupidity. The authors of this blog strongly believe that racism is only ever eliminated through education, conversation, exposure, experience and myth busting.
If you’re going to come here with your insults and links to misleading articles written by BNP fascists, and then assume that all we do in our non-stop fight against racism is make this silly blog, then you are more stupid than first thought.
Go and get fucked by your dad, inbred hick.
And the massive irony here is that your “research” is ONE opinion piece (largely referencing Britain) up against all the many links and offerings by TAB. Who exactly is the ‘Intellectual Lightweight’?
Hey Shane,
I don’t know what the beef you have with TAB? but hey why not enlighten all of us with your intellectual heavy weight?
..let us know what drives racism & how they are increasing etc.
please don’t provide British examples though, because the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.
..and if you take BNP seriously??? there will be a lot of people laughing at you.. 🙂
The article in The Telegraph is written by a BNP guy and all statistics are for UK, and has no relavance to Australia, it’s a completely different situation.
Where do indigenous people of Australia fit in to the article’s equation?
It’s funny how the writer puts muslims from all countries together and calculate the unemployment figure to be 35%, some how implying that religion and employment has a co relation.
“I’m agnostic, I’m not sure if I wanna do a job :(”
ha ha ha ha…. 🙂
If you think BNP is all about real issues of racism??? Pauline Hanson should also win ‘Australian of the year’, 🙂
M-Dawg!! says: “The article in The Telegraph is written by a BNP guy”
How do you know this?
Why does that matter? The paper still has an editor.
Maybe people who care about these issues are the type to (a) write articles about it and (b) join parties who care about it. Duh!
“please don’t provide British examples though, because the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
*Vast* differences between Britain and its own colony Australia?! No parallels? Give me a break!
There will be a lot of people laughing at you for that one, M-Dawg.
On this site’s definition of bogan it states:
“And this is no mere Australian phenomenon – in the US, you have rednecks, in the UK, chavs. While there are variations, the crux of the discussion remains the same.”
And the article, if you’d read it, discusses the demonisation of white working class people, something excusable because they’re ‘white’.
Same thing’s happening everywhere in the Western world.
ok.. now let’s pretend I give a flying fuck by replying to shock-moron.
Leo McKinstry???? who is he??? for fuck’s sake shockokmuncher, why does this matter?
well quick brush up on “Information 101”. Check for the source. when your bank sends an email asking for your address details to be updated do it, not when the Nigerian Prince sends the same e-mail.
*sigh! Non white racists reading this must think all white people are as thick as shock-fuck 😦
people who care about the “issues” yes….people who make non-issues to be “issues”, sacred little losers like you & Scott…. FML!!!!!! 😦
How do you compare the working middle class in Briton & Australia?
I focus on the issue being discussed shock-fuck, not bull shit like you do.
Population, land mass, rate of development, infrastructure, room for development.. these are what effect working class white or otherwise.. and you think it is the same in Briton & here…??
You have an internet connection… use it..not just for porn…
I think you like Scott, although keep kissing Briton’s arse has never been there or seen it. 🙂
So may be Briton isn’t what you think it is, it hasn’t been for the past 30-40 years anyways.
I’ll give you a life long break shock fuck, just don’t troll this blog.
Working class in the UK aren’t all chavs, working class people aren’t all red necks. All white people aren’t dumb fucks.
You like Scott see colour everywhere you go and in everything you do. That is your problem.
You are a racist that think for some reason white people have something special than others. Scott thought it was a super gene, but he couldn’t find it so he went to the opp shop to by some K-Mart jeans 🙂
..and whoop-di-dooooo, you also happens to be white.. actually white people don’t have anything special, they’re white because they lack melanin in their skin compared to others.
anyways…science and fact isn’t for you.. for under achievers like you only thing you have to make your self feel good about you is your skin colour. So you keep clinging on to that perceived superiority.
While you whinge & bitch about it all the time.. what is your solution to this perceived “issue:?
Why not put it down in dot points a plan that you think we should implement.
..see a psychologist/psychiatrist..may be they’ll bulk bill.
Shane/Shockadelic – have either of you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?
M-Dawg!! says: “Blah blah blah”.
Rob says: “Shockadelic – have you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?”
I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.
M-Dawg stated “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences.
No benefit drawing parallels.
Between (A) a country populated mostly by people of British descent and (B) Britain.
Come off it!
“I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.”
Enlightening!
Tell me more.
Rob says: “Enlightening! Tell me more.”
Troll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Australia_(1788%E2%80%931850)
Cool link dude.
Of course Britain initially created the nation as we know it today. However, this does not mean that the cultures of the UK and Australia are exactly the same as of the present day. If you think that you can experience all of the culture of Britain simply by living here you are sadly deluded.
Hey Shocky
I really love this bit:
“Rob says: “Shockadelic – have you ever been to, let alone lived in the UK?”
I don’t need to. The British created the country I live in.
M-Dawg stated “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences.
No benefit drawing parallels.
Between (A) a country populated mostly by people of British descent and (B) Britain.
Come off it!”
As someone who has lived in the UK and in Australia I would have to wholeheartedly agree with you.
When I was last in the UK enjoying a lamington and some pavlova at a barbeque on Brighton Beach and sinking a VB, I couldn’t help noticing how everyone’s accents were exactly like mine.
Furthermore I noted how everyone was slapping on the sunscreen and insect repelant and a poor bugger had to be rescued by a surf life saver because he’d got into trouble in a rip after being stung by a bluebottle.
As we sat on the edge of the beach chomping down on our meat pie floaters, under the shade of the eucalyptus trees and Norfolk Island pines, we discussed politics and culture. Whether to vote Labour or Liberal in the next State elections. Whether or not we were going to watch channel 9 or 10 that night. Whether or not we were going to see the AFL that weekend at Wembley Stadium.
We also worried about bushfire season coming up as we were planning to spend summer in The Cotswolds and also how much El Nino would affect The Lake District that year.
It was almost as if 220 years of diverging and divergent cultures did not exist.
I just loved England it was EXACTLY like Australia!
Tool…
Oh! Bummer! We didn’t have the luxuries you enjoyed, in Mildura where we lived 😦 TA,
There was no beach within few hours, and it was too cold to go to a beach anyways.
Skies were always gray and we were worried about floods & how that would effect the industrial areas.
All the international students from the university would hit the town and that scared me, so may Asians & Black people, most of the doctors working at the teaching hospital in town were foreigners too.
I was really scared because if the cold made me sick I will have to go to a foreign doctor.
So, the boys got together went down to the pub for few pints and it snowed that evening, so we made a snow man and fought with snow balls… legged home later when we got tired
Life in Mildura sucks man.
I wish I was in Birmingham in the UK. 😦
Birmingham. Totally. I’d be at that German market. That’s right Shockadelic – GERMAN! Don’t they know WE one the war!?!
That should won – not one. Oh dear.
Ben says: “this does not mean that the cultures of the UK and Australia are exactly the same”
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! “I just loved England it was EXACTLY like Australia!”
At no time did I, nor would I, claim to two nations are *exactly* the same.
I was responding to this inanity from M-Dawg: “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences. No parallels. Between British and Australian.
Hogwash. And you know it.
Terror, when you were “last in the UK” I’m sure you noticed they had about six thousand accents.
All of which will be lost soon, thanks to the Wonders of Post-Racialism! (patent pending).
Lamingtons and pavlovas are not what makes Australians “Australians”.
A Chinese person could eat them for dinner, but they’d still be Chinese when they woke up in the morning.
The British do drink beer, eat meat pies, go to the beach, discuss politics and culture,
vote for the same tweedledee-tweedledum political sharks, watch mainstream TV,
play rugby, soccer, cricket, worry about the weather.
“It was almost as if 220 years of diverging and divergent cultures did not exist.”
Oh, so now Australia *does* have it’s own native White culture.
Interesting….
Hi Shocky
Have you actually been outside Australia at all? Ever? In your 43 pathetic years on this planet?
“At no time did I, nor would I, claim to two nations are *exactly* the same.
I was responding to this inanity from M-Dawg: “the differences are vast that there is no benefit to Australia drawing parallels.”
Vast differences. No parallels. Between British and Australian.
Hogwash. And you know it.”
*yawn* – whatever… You’ve actually yet to show the *benefit* of drawing parallels. That’s kinda the point you’re missing.
“Terror, when you were “last in the UK” I’m sure you noticed they had about six thousand accents.”
6000 accents – really? Why not make it truly a believable figure by saying there are 60,000,000 accents – I like extra zeros.
“All of which will be lost soon, thanks to the Wonders of Post-Racialism! (patent pending).”
Yes – this is true – accents are decreasing not increasing in number. I noticed the other day how all accents are disappearing here too!
Linguistic anthropology not really your strong point there sweety – best keep your thoughts to yourself on that one – it’s a little embarrassing to witness your serious medical condition of foot-in-mouth disease.
“Oh, so now Australia *does* have it’s own native White culture.
Interesting….”
Ummm – “…so Australia *does have [IT IS] own native White culture?*
“it’s” and “its”- if your going to attempt to be a smarmy git then please learn to distinguish between the two.
As for your point – what the fuck is your point?
There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture
This is what we call: Attempt at being snide FAIL.
Tool…
I know I’m 18 months late to this conversation, but I did want to respond.
Oh, Terror, you do make me laugh. Having said that, you did score a bit of an own goal there:
““it’s” and “its”- if your going to attempt to be a smarmy git then please learn to distinguish between the two.”
* “you’re”
As to the actual point Shockadelic was blathering about: Britain also colonised India, Zimbabwe, Singapore, Papua New Guinea and a WHOLE bunch of other places (don’t take my word for it, google that sucker), and I fail to see any validity to your argument that colonisation = compatibility. (the USA, f’rinstance.)
In fact, most of the UK’s immigration stats are due to them having agreed to allow persons from the Commonwealth (previously “colonies” to migrate there… but somehow ours is the only former colony whose culture is close enough to Britain’s as to allow parallels to be drawn?
Hold on isn’t The English migrants from Germany?
Rob says: “Birmingham. Totally. I’d be at that German market. That’s right Shockadelic – GERMAN! Don’t they know WE one the war!?!”
I guess you haven’t heard of the European Union.
I’m sure there’ve been ‘Germans’ in England for quite a while now. Both before and after we ‘one the war’.
We one two wars in fact! We one WWI and we one WWII (say that really fast).
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! says: “Have you actually been outside Australia at all? Ever?”
Irrelevant.
We’re discussing Australia and its society.
Other societies may have parallels though, particularly *British* societies.
“You’ve actually yet to show the *benefit* of drawing parallels.”
Yes, who needs to show why this would benefit our discussion.
Why *does* the sun need to shine?
All those people wasting time doing comparisons through foreign research trips and cross-cultural studies should really wake up to themselves.
“6000 accents – really?”
You took that literally?
Yes, accents are being lost.
Is this not regrettable?
Aren’t accents cultural heritage?
You lot whine about the ‘loss’ of Aboriginal culture and other people colonised by Europeans.
I’m sure they lost their original accents along with a lot of other things.
But that was only a tragedy when it happened to ‘coloured’ people, eh?
Any cultural loss by Whites is not really a loss at all. It’s ‘enrichment’!
“There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture”
Really? Then why do I keep hearing people claim, in defense of multicultural immigration, that “Australia doesn’t even *have* a culture”.
I heard this so many times I’ve lost count.
It really would be helpful to your cause if you guys could make up your minds what your argument *actually is*.
Attempt at being snide: FAIL.
Shocky:
Ah so you haven’t been outside this country then. This is quite obvious to deduce as you think that it is irrelevant.
It’s what we call perspective sweety. And you are seriously lacking it. No wonder you are scared you poor thing – you actually believe all those news reports that tell you what a big, scary place the world is out there because you have no evidence to the contrary… Shhh… I’ll let you in on a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: bad news sells better… it’s true – if you actually have perspective you begin to see that the scary bad world being reported back to you nightly is actually not as big and bad and scary as it superficially appears…
“Yes, who needs to show why this would benefit our discussion.
Why *does* the sun need to shine?”
Oooooh – great debating skills – won me over with that irrelevant attempt at a sidestep.
“All those people wasting time doing comparisons through foreign research trips and cross-cultural studies should really wake up to themselves.”
As the only person in this discussion (between you and I) who has actually travelled overseas and as an academic, I am particularly familiar with cross-cultural studies – thanks for trying to play that card though – I simply want you to explain to me the *benefit* in your desire to draw some bizarre parallel between two distinctly separate countries. And no – references to the sun doesn’t quite cut it as a response.
““6000 accents – really?”
You took that literally?”
Sweety – I take none of what you write literally – your BANANANAS trade lesson and THIRD WORLD = DEVELOPED COUNTRY definition showed me right from the onset that nothing you say can ever be taken literally.
“Yes, accents are being lost.
Is this not regrettable?
Aren’t accents cultural heritage?”
And they are being replaced by new accents – this is what happens – it’s called linguistic evolution. As opposed to the extinction of a language which is a significant loss of cultural heritage, accent shifts are actually a normal part of the evolving of language – big fucking difference – learn it before you start your extremely amateur and immature rants.
“You lot whine about the ‘loss’ of Aboriginal culture and other people colonised by Europeans.
I’m sure they lost their original accents along with a lot of other things.”
Again – note the difference between ‘accent’ and ‘language’ and then look at the terms “extinction” and “evolution’ – sometimes you are even more pathetic than your already base low.
“But that was only a tragedy when it happened to ‘coloured’ people, eh?
Any cultural loss by Whites is not really a loss at all. It’s ‘enrichment’!”
No – you’re absolutely right here – I mourn the loss White culture – which is apparently a culture based solely on the amount of pigmentation in ones skin…
Oh wait – are you taking about some form of Anglo-Saxon culture? Right there too – it’s so sad that Christmas has been cancelled this year.
“There are cultures here in Australia – so what? Even bogans have a culture”
Really? Then why do I keep hearing people claim, in defense of multicultural immigration, that “Australia doesn’t even *have* a culture”.
I heard this so many times I’ve lost count.”
Yet again you have proved to me that you actually don’t have any understanding of the meaning of the word “culture”. Please look it up if you are going to use it.
Also – if I say “[t]here are cultures here in Australia” – note the use of the letter ‘s’ to indicate a plural – i.e. more than one – and you then take this to mean that I am suggesting that Australia has a culture – note the use of the letter ‘a’ here to indicate singular – i.e. only one – then you’ve likely got a serious disconnect between your left and right cerebral cortex. Are you retarded? Do you actually have brain damage? Should I actually be nice to you because of this, instead? I would feel very guilty if, after all these months of communications it turned out you were behaving so impossibly stupidly because of a legitimate medical condition…
…Actually this would explain a lot, including your last attempt at a put-down:
“Attempt at being snide: FAIL.”
I mean honestly! – quoting me back at me – really? – are we in primary school?
That is truly pathetic…
Ha! Yes I have heard of the EU…..your point? I guess you are pro the UK joining then?
Currency – that is – barainiac.
Are we in primary school? Apparently, because all I ever hear from you is “Nyah nu-nyah nyah”.
The big, bad world?
I didn’t think it possible, but you’ve just lowered the level of imbecility a little more.
My objections to immigration aren’t based on how ‘bad’ the world is.
There’s plenty of ‘bad’ right here.
It’s based on the rightful inheritance of cultural legacy.
I and other Australians are entitled to it, and nobody else is, unless *we* say so.
And nobody ever asked our permission to institute a 75% Third-World immigration program.
“I simply want you to explain to me the *benefit* in your desire to draw some bizarre parallel between two distinctly separate countries.”
You mean like this blog quoting *American* bogan websites?
Drawing parallels between a country and its own colony is hardly ‘bizarre’.
They’re related cultures and peoples, both undergoing the same demographic changes.
This doesn’t *need* explaining. Except to an imbecile.
“your BANANANAS trade lesson” wasn’t *literal*.
It was an exemplary hypothesis.
When you were in school and the teacher gave some example to show something (a man rows a boat at X miles an hour to get to town seven miles away), did you think they were actually *literally* discussing a man rowing a boat?
“And they are being replaced by new accents”
Then that is an irreplaceable cultural loss.
They are being replaced by *other* accents, not “new” ones.
“it’s called linguistic evolution.”
No evolution is change of what *already exists*, not its displacement by something else unrelated to it and artificially introduced from outside the cultural system.
Cane toads didn’t ‘evolve’ out of the local Queensland ecosystem. They were introduced artificially, and so are all these foreign cultures. (That was an analogy. Look it up.)
“Again – note the difference between ‘accent’ and ‘language’”
I didn’t say one cultural loss was equal to, greater than or less than another.
“I mourn the loss White culture – which is apparently a culture based solely on the amount of pigmentation in ones skin…”
This is the most ridiculous part of your ‘perspective’.
You think ‘White’ is just a reference to skin.
It’s so very very sad.
‘White’ is just a broad inclusive term meaning basically ‘European’ (people and cultures).
The reason ‘European’ isn’t always appropriate is that many people of European descent don’t live in Europe (the Americas, Australasia, South Africa) and many people who are citizens of European countries are not *ethnically* ‘European’.
And since Europeans have ‘culture’, Whites have ‘culture’.
“Please look it up if you are going to use it.”
No, the people claiming Australians don’t *have* a culture need to look it up.
“[t]here are cultures here in Australia” – note the use of the letter ‘s’ to indicate a plural”
Oooh, clever.
I’m well aware there are more than one.
But there is a general majority culture and that is what most people are referring to when they say “Australian culture”.
There are many cultures in Spain and France, but most people would understand what is meant by “Spanish culture” or “French culture”, except for pedantic prissy princesses who need everything explained to them like they’re a brain-damaged toddler.
If you expect me to believe you are an educated, intelligent person, then start acting like you are.
“It’s based on the rightful inheritance of cultural legacy.
I and other Australians are entitled to it, and nobody else is, unless *we* say so.”
That’s a laugh. Rightful inheritance and cultural legacy belong to the Aboriginal people, even if they didn’t have the firepower to defend themselves against invasion. As for *we* saying so, the majority of Australians support immigration.
“But there is a general majority culture and that is what most people are referring to when they say “Australian culture”.”
Please, enlighten us as to what you believe entails Australian culture.
theantibogan says: “That’s a laugh. Rightful inheritance and cultural legacy belong to the Aboriginal people”
They are entitled to their own cultural legacy, ours. And we aren’t entitled to theirs (if they wanted to restrict the manufacture of boomerangs, they would be entitled).
Events that happened over 200 years ago are beyond anyone’s control.
We can only control what happens *today*.
Fact is, there is now a ‘Australian’ people with their own culture, and if you need that culture *defined* for you, like you’re dissecting a frog, then you are the ‘UnAustralian’. (I note you have yet to define what *that* word means).
“the majority of Australians support immigration.”
Do they? Do they support 75% Third World immigration?
How could they when they don’t even know what’s happening?
You yourself have made erroneous claims about what kind of immigration we have now.
I’d imagine most other people are just as uninformed, or more so.
So you’re going to avoid answering this question again I see. You can’t define Australian culture? So be it. Thanks for playing, Mr Cultural Identity.
None of the statistics I’ve provided have been erroneous. On the other hand, you’ve stated that 75% of Australia’s current migrant intake are from ‘third world’ countries. Whether or not you want to pay attention to the thorough debunking you’ve been handed by TA is irrelevant. Australian residents who actually oppose immigration generally oppose it on the grounds of the inability of a new person to ‘adapt’ to our ‘way of life’. While you harp on about ‘third world migrants’, you continue to avoid acknowledging the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy. The people moving to Australia permanently are for the most part, skilled, educated, healthy and have money.
That shoulsd be “They are entitled to their own cultural legacy, *not* ours”
Why should I define “Australian” when you refuse to define “UnAustralian”?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Australia
This should do, though you can discount any reference to arty-farty or multiculti stuff.
“None of the statistics I’ve provided have been erroneous”
I believe you claimed most immigrants today still come from the same old sources (UK, New Zealand).
You even admitted you were incorrect, now you’re backpeddling.
I’ve already provide a link to check recent immigration figures. Here it is again:
http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/delivering-assistance/settlement-reporting-facility/
“On the other hand, you’ve stated that 75% of Australia’s current migrant intake are from ‘third world’ countries.”
On the other hand?
You mean that *is* an erroneous statistic?
Well use the link and find out for yourself.
“thorough debunking TA”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
“Australian residents who actually oppose immigration generally oppose it on the grounds of the inability of a new person to ‘adapt’ to our ‘way of life’.”
Now who’s making generalisations?
I’m opposing on it on that, and *many other*, grounds.
I speak for myself.
“the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy.”
Good. Then they should be quite happy where they are, improving their own societies even further.
“The people moving to Australia permanently are for the most part, skilled, educated, healthy and have money.”
And have no right to take my ethnic reality from me.
You couldn’t even bring yourself to give your opinion of what defines the culture in Australia. All you could do was come up with a wikipedia link, and then tell us to discount aspects of it that you didn’t agree with! Ha!
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Australia
This should do, though you can discount any reference to arty-farty or multiculti stuff.“
“I believe you claimed most immigrants today still come from the same old sources (UK, New Zealand).
You even admitted you were incorrect, now you’re backpeddling.
I’ve already provide a link to check recent immigration figures. Here it is again:
http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/delivering-assistance/settlement-reporting-facility/”
Yes, I did. And no, I didn’t ‘admit’ that I was incorrect. Your link to ‘check recent immigration figures’ is a little flimsy. Here is the one that shows the most recent migrants country of origin:
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statistics/pdf/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf
“The United Kingdom remains Australia’s largest source of migrants with an outcome of 25,738 or 15.3 per cent of the total Migration Program, down from 30,590 or 17.9 per cent in 2008-09 and over 20 per cent in previous years.
Chart D shows the top 10 citizenships, excluding New Zealand citizens (New Zealand citizens are not counted as part of the Migration Program).”
“On the other hand?
You mean that *is* an erroneous statistic?”
No. You called my statistics erroneous. I denied that they were erroneous on one hand, and suggested that yours were erroneous on the other hand. Geddit?
““the Human Development Index, which suggests that the majority of people from countries with low GDP actually have medium to high levels of education, income and life expectancy.”
Good. Then they should be quite happy where they are, improving their own societies even further.”
Again, applause for your amazing debating skills.
“And have no right to take my ethnic reality from me.”
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Say what?
Shocky – slammed yet again by TAB so no need for me to add anything…
…except:
“I didn’t think it possible, but you’ve just lowered the level of imbecility a little more.”
Yes I’ve lowered the level of stupidity – I use it by logical deductions – you on the other hand seem hell bent on raising the level of stupidity to new and amazing highs.
At the end of the day it’s quite simple – if you really care about a loss of “white culture” – just go and start breeding darrrrling…
theantibogan says:
“You couldn’t even bring yourself to give your opinion of what defines the culture in Australia.”
I don’t need an opinion of it for it to exist.
Do you need to define what “Russian culture” is before you admit there is such a thing?
Does a woman first have to *define* what a woman is, to provide some Prissy Princess with a bullet-point list of “What a Woman Is” before she has a right to *be* a woman, or have opinions about women.
If you refuse to define ‘UnAustralian’ while using it in your blog’s title, it’s a little rich to be demanding definitions on what you see in front of you every day.
Culture is often identified with the *artifacts* and customs.
Those are the external expression of a people.
You can’t have those without first having an internal shared understanding of reality, a mindset. That is the real culture, not the external trappings.
Without a ‘Tibetan’ mentality there can be no ‘Tibetan’ music.
Without a ‘French’ mentality there can be no ‘French’ architecture.
You expect a list of “stuff”.
The true nature of a people is psychological.
Once the ‘Australian’ mindset is lost, there is no ‘Australian’ culture, even if people still play cricket and eat lamingtons.
There’s no way I can explain our people’s mindset. I’m not *that* brilliant.
I do know that it’s not ‘Chinese’ or ‘Turkish’ or ‘Samoan’ or ‘Zulu’ or ‘Peruvian’ or ‘Eskimo’ or thousands of other ethnic realities.
Knowing what something is not is half what defines it. Cold is not hot.
Now tell me how opposing racism, sexism and homophobia makes you ‘Australian’, rather than ‘UnAustralian’?
Are those issues unique to our country?
No they not exist everywhere in the world?
These things make one no more ‘UnAustralian’ than they would make one ‘UnCanadian’, ‘UnSwedish’ or ‘UnGreek’.
So please explain what ‘UnAustralian’ actually means.
“And no, I didn’t ‘admit’ that I was incorrect.”
https://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/australian-soldier-idolises-nazis/#comment-4606
“Yes, a mistake on my part.”
Is “Yes, a mistake” ‘admitting incorrectness’ or not?
Mistakes are ‘correct’, are they?
“Your link to ‘check recent immigration figures’ is a little flimsy”
Flimsy!!?
It’s a facility on the IMMIRATION DEPARTMENT website (where *your* link is from), which allows you to check on data *updated* every month.
You rely on old reports from 2009 or earlier with minimal summary.
Top ten? Settlement reports tell you every country as well as migration stream, religion, education and a whole bunch of options.
You didn’t even try to use it, did you?
There’s even a ‘How to Produce a Settlement Report’ page to explain everything to you like a little baby.
http://www.immi.gov.au/settlement/settlement-reporting-facility/produce-report.htm
“and suggested that yours were erroneous on the other hand. Geddit?”
Oh, I geddit. You’re a liar.
They weren’t erroneous and you could easily check that with the above facility (where do think I got the stats?)
“New Zealand citizens are not counted as part of the Migration Program.”
And we aren’t counted in theirs.
“BAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHH”
Say what, indeed.
Was that supposed to be Bwahahahaha?
You’ll never make it as an evil villian, sorry.
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! says:
“Shocky – slammed yet again by TAB so no need for me to add anything…”
Please!
“…except:”
Oh well.
“if you really care about a loss of “white culture” – just go and start breeding darrrrling…”
Darrrling.
And the not-so-subtle homophobia from the anti-homophobes sneaks in again.
First it was Thai ladyboys, then being ‘flamboyant’.
And apparently its okay to be an 18 year old gay man, but not a 43 year old one.
Now it’s DAAAARRRLING!!!
Ooo, you are awful!
Plenty of White people are breeding. That doesn’t stop immigration.
Endless avoidance regarding YOUR definition of what Australian culture involves. Accusations of my avoidance of describing what it means to be UnAustralian. More superb debating skills. Here are some definitions of UnAustralian for you:
* not like Australians: contrary to what are seen as the characteristically Australian traditions of fairness and egalitarianism
* something, particularly art or literature, as not Australian in character
* non participant in Australian culture.
You may be wondering why I find it important for YOU to define what Australian culture is because I’m anticipating your answer, and ready to show you how many of the qualities, traits, pastimes and values within Australian culture are actually quite applicable within other countries and cultures. Perhaps that’s why you feel it necessary to continue to avoid defining it.
Re: your settlement reports. I said flimsy, because of
a) the amount of variables, distracting from the issue (which is Australian migrants’ country of origin)
b) the need to navigate through a series of steps in order to find exactly what it is you’re referring to.
What I gave you was the most current (2009-10) statistics regarding the country of origin of immigrants to Australia.
“I believe you claimed most immigrants today still come from the same old sources (UK, New Zealand).
You even admitted you were incorrect…”
As you will see from the most current data, the majority of immigrants to Australia are coming from the UK and NZ:
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statistics/pdf/report-on-migration-program-2009-10.pdf
Didn’t you say that I was incorrect when I said that?
theantibogan says: “Endless avoidance regarding YOUR definition of what Australian culture involves.”
*I* don’t need a definition of something I’ve lived in my whole life.
Do blind people need a definition of blindness?
“Accusations of my avoidance of describing what it means to be UnAustralian.”
Well, you put the word in the TITLE of your blog!
You put up a page defining what a bogan is, why not UnAustralian?
Maybe because then YOU would have to define “Australian” first?
And this won’t but it:
* not like Australians: contrary to what are seen as the characteristically Australian traditions of fairness and egalitarianism
* something, particularly art or literature, as not Australian in character
* non participant in Australian culture.
Not like Australians?
How can an Australian not be like an Australian?
Please enlighten us as to the “character’ of the ‘characteristically’ Australian.
Now *you* need to provide a list, or otherwise we won’t know what’s ‘characteristically’ Australian.
Art and literature are the creations of individuals.
Are you suggesting people only create collectivist-type art, rather than personal expression?
Long live Stalin!
“* non participant in Australian culture.”
You haven’t defined what ‘Australian culture’ is yet.
Yes, YOU. Since you insist people MUST participate in it, YOU must define it.
“ready to show you how many of the qualities, traits, pastimes and values within Australian culture are actually quite applicable within other countries and cultures.”
Likewise. *I* am waiting for *you*.
So what if we have things in common with other peoples.
Of course we do.
Because
a) we’re British-based, so we’d have much in common with any British-type culture.
b) likewise any ‘European’ culture generally
c) likewise any ‘Christian’ culture
d) likewise any Caucasoid culture
e) likewise any temperate climate culture
f) likewise any colonial culture
g) likewise any Modern culture
h) likewise any Homo sapiens culture (don’t get too excited, see below)
It’s not what we have in common that makes immigrants problematic.
It’s what we *don’t* have in common.
Culture as I’ve said is primarily determined by psychology (mental reality).
The material artifacts and customary practices are *expressions* of our inner perspectives.
As consciousness isn’t one-dimensional, neither is culture.
Your consciousness goes from the personal to the universal, and culture does too.
There are layers to culture.
Your personal lifestyle is an expression of your ego.
But culture like mind has other deeper layers.
The deeper you go, the more profound perhaps, but also the more remote from daily existence.
So what ‘humans’ share might be more fundamental, that’s not we live our lives.
We live on the more local, regional cultural level, just like your ego-mind is generally unaware of the ‘generic’ universal level of consciousness.
We live locally, both psychologically and culturally.
Just because people are ‘human’ does mean we can, or should, all live together.
Re: your settlement reports. I said flimsy, because of
a) the amount of variables [PICK ONE], distracting from the issue (which is Australian migrants’ country of origin [PICK *THAT* ONE])
b) the need to navigate through a series of steps in order to find exactly what it is you’re referring to.
Oh, it’s sooooo hard!
1. pick a report type (one variable or two. Country of origin is one variable. Okay? One.
2. select criteria (country of origin. Wow, I’m exhausted already!)
3. select date range (Ugh! I can’t take it!)
4. ignore everything else
5. click Next (Where’s Dad when you need him?)
5. enter capta (Goddamn it!)
6. click Submit (What a nightmare!)
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As you will see from the most current data, the majority of immigrants to Australia are coming from the UK and NZ”
And you did it AGAIN!!
The *majority?!!
The report you linked to has UK at 15.3%.
15!!!
And it doesn’t state NZ stats.
But they’d certainly be less than 34.7% (which they’d have to be to make UK + NZ = 50% or more = majority)
Now can you *admit* you’re wrong this time?
Because it’s bleeding obvious.
Hypocrites! You people are just are as racist, bigotted and verging of hate speech then the people you claim to oppose. The term Bogan is a racism pure and simple! You are appling the term to a group of people due to there cultural traits and national origin in order to “insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people” Racial Discrimination Act 1975.
No, the term bogan isn’t applied on the basis of national origin at all.
Utter rubbish!
It’s a catch-all term for ignorant boof-headed haters who are incapable of a sensible thought, but who are happy to post public vilification of minorities who are often powerless and voiceless.
That they mostly happen to be white Anglos just reflects the demographic dominance of that ethnic group in this country.
TAB also attacks sexism and homophobia as well.
It is no accident that the same grubs who are happy to defame ethnic minorities (including Indigenous people) also have warped views on women, gays and lesbians.
theantibogan says: “No, the term bogan isn’t applied on the basis of national origin at all.”
So, where are your articles about Black Tanzanian ‘bogans’ or Korean ‘bogans’?
I’m sure there are racist, sexist, homophobic people in Tanzania and Korea.
And if ‘bogan’ only applies to White people because it’s an ethnic definition (food, customs, language), then it is ‘racist’.
It is a demeaning slur directed only at a racial group, who have certain cultural affinities.
A word no less hateful than ‘nigger’ or ‘kike’.
Josh says:
“That they mostly happen to be white Anglos just reflects the demographic dominance of that ethnic group in this country.”
Oh, so we are an ethnic group now, eh?
Does that mean we have the same rights as any other ethnic group?
And why are we the dominant one in this country?
Is that because of history?
So the fact Australia is full of White people isn’t something wrong that needs to be *fixed* (by 75% non-white immigration), it’s just a fact, the consequence of history.
For Australia to be predominantly Whites is not more evil than Japan being filled with Japanese (who didn’t originate there) or India being filled with Indic people (who didn’t originate there).
It’s just a fact. A consequence of history.
No cure required.
Shockadelic: “So, where are your articles about Black Tanzanian ‘bogans’ or Korean ‘bogans’?
I’m sure there are racist, sexist, homophobic people in Tanzania and Korea.”
There are posts on here about non-white bogans, so try reading the site. Also the site authors have repeatedly asked racism apologists to send in screenshots of the masses of bogans they claim exist in other cultures – and funnily enough they never back up their talk with action. Your claim that bogan is an ethnic slur has no basis in reality. Bogan.
Hey guys. Love your work. Here’s a couple of freaks I have exposed on my blog:
appexposed.blogspot.com
Cheers
Shonk avoids the question yet again
“*I* don’t need a definition of something I’ve lived in my whole life.
Do blind people need a definition of blindness?”
I’m not too impressed by your “Australian culture”. I’d much rather have mine, because it doesn’t embrace racism and bigotry. The normal people on this forum no doubt would agree with me.
Your lot are always carrying on about “Australian culture” and “the Australian way of life” yet become very coy when asked to provide a definition. And I can guarantee that if we managed to squeeze one out of them it would bear no resemblance to the reality.
I’ve asked him several times already. Same with Scott.
Josh says: “Shonk avoids the question yet again”
“Shonk” has already answered the question.
theantibogan says:
“I’ve asked him several times already. Same with Scott.”
And I answered.
Australian ‘culture’ is not a list of A + B + C.
It is the *holistic* social reality.
Created by the people born and raised here for generations, not people who just got off the plane from China, India, Lebanon.
There’s no point trying to dissect it into component parts.
A jigsaw is more than the pieces that constitute it.
Do you need a precise definition to know ‘Australian culture’ is *not* Russian culture, is *not* Japanese culture, is *not* Mexican culture?
Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.
Australian culture has adopted elements from other cultures (surfing, pizza, jazz) while still remaining essentially unchanged in general character.
It’s not the “stuff”.
It’s the people and their psychology.
You yourself refer to ‘characteristically Australian’.
That cannot exist unless there’s a characteristically Australian people with a characteristic psychology.
Now we all know “Australian” exists, whether we can define it or not, but what’s “UnAustralian”?
*That* is a term that needs definition.
“It is the *holistic* social reality.
Created by the people born and raised here for generations, not people who just got off the plane from China, India, Lebanon.”
Then what about the people who got off the boat from those countries over 100 years ago?
“Do you need a precise definition to know ‘Australian culture’ is *not* Russian culture, is *not* Japanese culture, is *not* Mexican culture?”
Then there clearly is definitive distinctions between ‘cultures’. So you won’t have any problems outlining what you think they are. Right?
“Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.”
Thank you for acknowledging this. How then is our ‘culture’ being eroded by people from other countries?
“Australian culture has adopted elements from other cultures (surfing, pizza, jazz) while still remaining essentially unchanged in general character.”
Thank you for acknowledging that the Australian culture has not been changed or threatened.
“It’s the people and their psychology.”
Thank you for acknowledging that the culture belongs to those who live within it.
“You yourself refer to ‘characteristically Australian’.
That cannot exist unless there’s a characteristically Australian people with a characteristic psychology.”
The elements of an ‘Australian culture’ have been outlined by many people and organisations over time. Would you deny that beer is a part of our culture? If not, why? If so, you will acknowledge that this has long been an established part of our culture. As has the beach, a love of sports, mateship, a fair go, larrikinism etc etc.
“Now we all know “Australian” exists, whether we can define it or not, but what’s “UnAustralian”?
*That* is a term that needs definition.”
Anyone who acts in a way that damages Australia’s reputation as being friendly, compassionate and fighters for the ‘fair go’ and equality, put briefly.
theantibogan says: “Then what about the people who got off the boat from those countries over 100 years ago?”
They were either unwanted, or expected to blend in as much as possible.
“Australians could drink vodka, listen to Yoko Ono and eat tacos and they’d still be “Australian”.”
“Thank you for acknowledging this. How then is our ‘culture’ being eroded by people from other countries?’
Eroded is the right word.
A gradual process so incremental you don’t even notice it happening.
It’s being eroded by the sheer number and complexity of the immigrant population.
How can such a large, perpetually topped-up, complex group ever become “us”?
The culture/psychology of “Australians” is one of simplicity and casual community.
The harshness of early settlement meant we all had to stick together, we had to fuse into a singular community and leave old-world divisions behind.
When you came here, you weren’t Scottish or Irish or Dutch anymore.
You were expected to become ‘one of us’ as much as possible, defusing differences (by ignoring them or in humorous mocking), and your children were expected to be 100% Australian.
Australians are a ‘mongrel’, which is why I chuckle every time I hear people start saying I want some “pure” “Superman” race.
But we are a mongrel of various *European* types.
It may not be possible for obviously non-European people or their descendants to ever really “be us”.
The differences cannot be easily ignored.
And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.
And in today’s Information Age, the idea that you must move people around to move culture around is just laughable.
“It’s the people and their psychology.”
“Thank you for acknowledging that the culture belongs to those who live within it.”
Did I say residents?
“The people” who define “Australian” are the people born here, born part of that “Australian” ethnicity, and who define themselves that way.
We may or may not “adopt” people from elsewhere, but that’s up to us, not them.
Ethnicities are defined by the people themselves. The people define who is and isn’t part of their ethnicity.
Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.
Ask an Aborigine if anyone can be a member of their tribe just by claiming so.
No, you must either be blood relations, or *adopted* by the tribe (i.e. the *tribe* decides who is included).
“Would you deny that beer is a part of our culture? If not, why?
the beach, a love of sports”
A list of stuff.
Beer and the beach are *expressions* of our nature, not the nature itself.
They exemplify egalitarianism, simplicity, casualness.
“mateship, a fair go, larrikinism”
Now you’re getting somewhere.
This is psychology, not “stuff”.
“Anyone who acts in a way that damages Australia’s reputation as being friendly, compassionate and fighters for the ‘fair go’ and equality, put briefly.”
And where is the display of friendly, irreverent, “she’ll be right” on this blog?
What would an “Australian” do if they went up to the bar to get a round
and some half-drunk grumpy guy was moaning about Muslim refos taking all our jobs?
Would the “Australian” get up on the bar and say “Attention everyone! This guy is making politically incorrect offensive comments and should be utterly condemned!”
The “Australians” in the bar would start laughing. “Get a life, wanker!”
An “Australian” would have casually tolerated the drunk, perhaps gently mocking him, then unobtrusively avoid that person for the rest of the evening.
And your obsession with spelling and grammar!
This is a country where we’ll go to a barbie at Davo’s this arvo.
We will *never, ever* go to a barbeque at David’s this afternoon.
Okay, you want a definition?
I’ll try my best (I don’t why I bother, because you won’t actually give it any thought before you toss off your predictable, knee-jerk response).
Early settlement was hard.
There wasn’t a lot to go around, so we all had to share (the source of our preference for simplicity and egalitarianism, distaste for ostentation).
This egalitarian essence exist in the support for the underdog (has too little) and the rejection of tall poppies (has too much).
Our preference for easy, simple food and clothing (meat pies, board shorts).
Our rejection of extreme prudery and extreme vulgarity.
The old world was far away and we were all stuck here together and had to make the best of it.
The only authorities were the loathed prison officials and bureaucrats (the source of our anti-hierarchal, anti-authoritarian attitudes. This is why Australians don’t like being handed an official list of Things You Can’t Do by some pompous know-it-all).
From this situation our psychology developed.
Life was tough for everyone, so sob stories didn’t go down too well (Hey Johnno, refo says life is tough! What else is new?).
We all had to work together. Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English, assorted others, had to become *one people.
A tough life in a geographically inverted world (Christmas in summer!), complicated by trying to diffuse the differences between people, helped develop our irreverent humour, our affectionate mocking, our sense of the absurd (what other country would build an Opera House shaped like sea shells?).
Our early difficulty made us extremely appreciative of any “time off”, hence our desire for an easy life, as much as that is possible.
The cramped conditions of prison life and the awareness of the availability of open land, made any kind of “space” very valued, hence our love of the beach, the open road, the big backyard.
So why do some “Australians” have such a problem with today’s immigration?
Racism? Xenophobia?
Those things exist everywhere.
No, it’s a sense of incongruity, of going against the grain, of *our particular psychology.
Multiculturalism is not simplicity, is not fusion.
Many of these cultures are very fond of hierarchy, authority, ostentation and are humourless.
The retention of original identities conflicts with our expectation of fusion, of leaving the old world behind (Why come here if you don’t want to “be us”?)
The excessiveness, impracticallity and complexity of it contradicts our ideals of easiness, simplicity, space, fusion.
It’s idealism contradicts our essential realism.
To “Australians” our current immigration policies are going against the grain of our very nature.
Burrp!! 😐
“They were either unwanted, or expected to blend in as much as possible.”
And your point is?
“Eroded is the right word.
A gradual process so incremental you don’t even notice it happening.”
You are referring to an aesthetic change in Australia, namely the colour and appearance of those born here. You aren’t referring to a cultural change.
“The culture/psychology of “Australians” is one of simplicity and casual community.”
I thought you couldn’t attribute characteristics to the Australian culture – but now you are! Simplicity? Bullshit. Casual community? Well immigrants generally value community just as much as you and I.
“The harshness of early settlement meant we all had to stick together, we had to fuse into a singular community and leave old-world divisions behind.
When you came here, you weren’t Scottish or Irish or Dutch anymore.”
Multiculturalism generally does work as a fusion of cultures, leaving old world divisions behind. Of course, jackasses like yourself like to elude to isolated examples of ethnic crime to point out the failures of multiculturalism, ignoring the examples of white crime that would still exist if we lived in a whites-only society. Ethnic crime does not equal a failure of multiculturalism.
“Australians are a ‘mongrel’, which is why I chuckle every time I hear people start saying I want some “pure” “Superman” race.”
People don’t quote you as saying ‘Superman’, they quote you as saying ‘pure’. Meaning white only. Whites are far from perfect.
“It may not be possible for obviously non-European people or their descendants to ever really “be us”.
The differences cannot be easily ignored.”
Differences that you continue to refuse to outline.
“And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.”
Yeah – that’s really the point of our immigration program too…
“Did I say residents?”
When you say ‘the people’ of Australia, I assumed you meant the people living in Australia.
“Ethnicities are defined by the people themselves. The people define who is and isn’t part of their ethnicity.
Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.”
Your opinion.
“Ask an Aborigine if anyone can be a member of their tribe just by claiming so.”
Aboriginal tribal culture doesn’t have any similarities with multiculturalism. Multiculturalism means just that – multiple cultures living as one culture.
“A list of stuff.
Beer and the beach are *expressions* of our nature, not the nature itself.
They exemplify egalitarianism, simplicity, casualness.”
Then it’s impossible to be exclusionary when so many migrants embrace so many aspects of out ‘nature’ by embracing our ‘stuff’. The ONLY reason you’ve managed to identify as an argument for non-whites being unable to be Australian is that they aren’t white. You keep implying that ‘they’ can’t be ‘us’ because 222 years ago ‘we’ were the majority and ‘they’ were unwelcome. If this is your only argument, you’ve failed. You’ve also failed to describe our culture as ‘eroding’ simply by the increasingly changing ‘appearance’ of those living here – despite their embracing all things considered to be ‘Australian’.
“What would an “Australian” do if they went up to the bar to get a round
and some half-drunk grumpy guy was moaning about Muslim refos taking all our jobs?”
The she’ll be right attitude is no longer the cultural norm in this country. We have advocacy groups, we have human rights groups. We have groups fighting for the rights of disabled people, women’s rights, the rights of homosexuals, the rights of children, the rights of refugees, the rights of working Australians, the rights of the homeless and unemployed. We have countless groups and organisations that stand up and oppose denigration and discrimination, whether it be isolated cases or institutionalised discrimination.
“An “Australian” would have casually tolerated the drunk, perhaps gently mocking him, then unobtrusively avoid that person for the rest of the evening.”
Casually? Gently? Unobtrusively? Are you sure you’re describing an ‘Australian’? Ever seen an Australian when someone has jumped in front of him in a queue? Ever seen an Australian when someone has taken the parking spot he was waiting for? Ever seen an Australian who has been short-changed? Fuck man – how far back in the past are you living?
*Blah blah blah references to life 200 years ago*
*Insert personal, unsupported definition of ‘Australian’*
I am not going to bother arguing your pathetic attempt at describing modern Australian culture. You’ve tried to compare Australia in 2010 to Australia in 1800. You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.
AB, Shockadelic has kicked your regressive, knee jerk arse post after post
When you’re called upon to be official adjudicator, only then will your opinion be worth something.
theantibogan says: “I am not going to bother arguing your pathetic attempt at describing modern Australian culture.”
Deep exasperated sigh.
That’s why I was reluctant to ‘bother’ in the first place!
I knew you would do this.
Not a second’s contemplation before the predictable PC ‘response’.
That fact you can’t understand *why* the founding era of our nation has any importance today, shows how little you even understand the concept of ‘nation’ or ‘people’ or ‘culture’ or ‘ethnicity’.
The early years of any new nation will have a profound and lasting influence on that nation forever afterwards.
Australia is not a blank state that appeared out of thin air in 1973.
A blank canvas on which you can just paint any old utopian vision you feel like.
“You are referring to an aesthetic change in Australia, namely the colour and appearance of those born here. You aren’t referring to a cultural change.”
I’m referring to both.
The introduction of millions of non-European people, born and raised in other cultures, changes more than the skin tone variation in our population.
When is it going to get through to you that ‘White’ is not *just* a reference to skin tone, but everything that goes *with* that, a civilisation with roots going back thousands of years.
Your beliefs insist you can just tack any old thing with human DNA into it, and all that’s changed is skin tone.
No, those other people also have histories going back thousands of years that shape who they are physically, psychologically, aesthetically, philosophically, in every possible element of human existence.
You are pretending that you can take pieces from one jigsaw and tack them on another, and when someone complains that the picture doesn’t make sense anymore, you think they’re complaining about the colours in the exotic pieces, not their effect on the overall picture.
“I thought you couldn’t attribute characteristics to the Australian culture – but now you are!”
I said I would find it difficult.
I did my best, but of course you didn’t actually want to hear any definition at all.
You just want to attack, attack, attack.
“Simplicity? Bullshit.”
You know nothing about Australia.
“Casual community? Well immigrants generally value community just as much as you and I.”
They value *their* community.
The casualness of Australians is reflected in their propensity to react to strangers as if they were cousins.
Of course, this is being *exploited* by people who care nothing for our real community, only for money or ideology.
“Multiculturalism generally does work as a fusion of cultures”
No it does not.
By definition, it encourages the retention, even promotion, of distinct old world identities.
The exact opposite of the Australian psychology of a fused community, where differences are *minimised* or ignored.
“ignoring the examples of white crime that would still exist if we lived in a whites-only society”
Of course they would.
Crime exists everywhere.
But bringing disparate ethnic groups together and encouraging the retention of distinct identities, *encourages* crime, as each group sees the others as ‘not my people’
“People don’t quote you as saying ‘Superman’, they quote you as saying ‘pure’.”
Did I say ‘quote’?
Several comments have specifically used these words, in a pathetic attempt to portray me as a cookie-cutter neo-Nazi.
Maintaining the distinctiveness of Australians doesn’t make them any better or worse, just different.
If there were no differences between ‘peoples’, there would be no ‘peoples’ at all.
Differences don’t necessarily make you superior or inferior, they just make you different.
Is chess ‘superior’ to backgammon?
Some may think so, some may think the reverse.
Every people on Earth who hasn’t been infected with the PC-brain virus thinks their people are ‘the best’.
It’s a healthy instinct that ensures survival.
“Whites are far from perfect.”
And I never said anything about ‘perfect’ either.
“The differences cannot be easily ignored.”
“Differences that you continue to refuse to outline.”
Keh?
Culture, race, religion, psychology, everything that makes one people different from another.
“And we didn’t need 100,000 Mexicans moving here to eat tacos.
Or 100,000 Black Americans to like jazz.
Or 100,000 Hawaiians to embrace surfing.”
“Yeah – that’s really the point of our immigration program too…”
You guys are always talking about how immigration brings culture into our country, how it ‘enriches’ us.
Now it’s irrelevant, eh?
This is what is so exasperating about you people.
Any time you want, you just change the argument to the opposite of what you just said, and act as if you still make sense.
“When you say ‘the people’ of Australia, I assumed you meant the people living in Australia.”
You assumed wrong.
We were discussing what the *ethnicity* ‘Australian’ is, weren’t we?
“Anyone with a hyphen in their identity is therefore not, by definition, “Australian”.
“Australian” cannot have hyphens. It is a singular identity.”
“Your opinion.”
You asked me for a definition.
And your insistence that anyone can tack on a hyphenated identity, to an identity that has existed for two centuries, is also just “your opinion”.
“Aboriginal tribal culture doesn’t have any similarities with multiculturalism.”
I didn’t say it did.
They have *ethnicities*. And no, you can’t join in unless they let you.
“Multiculturalism means just that – multiple cultures living as one culture.”
No its actually meaningless, in any real sense of ‘culture’.
‘Culture’ requires more than a Noah’s Ark of two of everything.
Real ‘culture’ needs a history, a territory, a *mass* of people who genuinely share that culture, not dozens of displanted personal histories shared in a superficial way.
“The ONLY reason you’ve managed to identify as an argument for non-whites being unable to be Australian is that they aren’t white.”
And *everything that goes along *with that!!!
People are not just bodies.
They are a complete package: genetics, psychology, customs, beliefs, cultural norms, perceptions and perspectives created by *separate* histories going back thousands of years.
If history has taught us anything (slavery, colonisation) it’s that mixing disparate peoples together is disastrous to the human spirit.
Yet this is exactly what you want to encourage, the decontextualising of people into a meaningless stew.
“You keep implying that ‘they’ can’t be ‘us’ because 222 years ago ‘we’ were the majority and ‘they’ were unwelcome.”
We have been and still are the majority.
A common ancestry is one of the factors that *define* ethnicity.
“The she’ll be right attitude is no longer the cultural norm in this country.”
Because it won’t be right.
“We have advocacy groups, we have human rights groups. We have groups fighting for the rights of…, the rights of ……, the rights of …….., the rights of …….., the rights of ….., the rights of ……”
You think that a few opinionated ‘spokespersons’ with a megaphone and a chip-on-the-shoulder define the ‘cultural norm’ in Australia?
You are beyond clueless.
They are the exception to the rule.
“Casually? Gently? Unobtrusively? Are you sure you’re describing an ‘Australian’?”
Yes, an Australian.
Not a rights-spokesperson with a megaphone and a chip-on-the-shoulder.
“Ever seen an Australian when someone has jumped in front of him in a queue? …the parking spot? Short-changed?”
You are describing a reaction to a *direct, personal* situation.
Your soapbox attacks on Facebook fiends has nothing to do with any personal disadvantage you have suffered.
And neither would the guy in the bar. But you’d get out your megaphone anyway.
“*Insert personal, unsupported definition of ‘Australian’*”
Says Mr Utopian Fantasy.
“You’ve tried to compare Australia in 2010 to Australia in 1800. “
I’ve tried to explain how the particular ‘character’ you claim to understand came about.
The formative years of a nation are just as definitive of its character as the formative years of an individual person.
That character is not going to change because of wishful thinking, Happyland propaganda or hypothetical universalisms.
“You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.”
They are.
90% of our citizens are.
And our *ethnicity* is intrincally White, though if we want, we could include others (not if *they* want, if we want).
Buuurrrrp! 😐
Shockadelic: “You’ve assumed that ‘Australians’ are white. You fail.” They are.
90% of our citizens are.
Even if that’s true (and not your usual unsubstantiated bullshit opinion – I notice no links or evidence to back up your figures), 90% of white Australia does not vote for parties like Australia First or the APP. Sucks to be you.
Its actually closer to 15%… http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1370.0~2010~Chapter~Overseas%20born%20population%20(3.6)
[excluding europe]
However it doesnt take into account: asylum seekers, people who some people call ‘wogs’ and people that aren’t actually ‘white’ (asians, muslims born here etc.) so the figure could be much more. If you see in any Australian classroom I would expect 20-40% are not white.
About APP election results, they received 1,864 votes and also 773 votes from Group R independents. Which equals to 2637 votes. Then all those preferences went to the LDP which were ultimately useless as they failed to get a seat.
Yes but we all know why that doesnt happen dont we, you know the liberals,labour,greens using taxpayer funded slush funds to keep their voice from being heard, gaoling people for nothing, demonising them,taking their words out of context ,media harrassment etc etc .We know how you cultural marxists work.We also knows who controls you anti white grubs.You people are a blight on White Australian society.You sell your souls to the altar of mediocrity and multiculturalism.Race is real, race is more than skin deep.Science,genetics, biology proves such.
Stop White Genocide.Multiculturalism for all white countries and only white countries.Who was the racist jew who stated multiculturalism was good for Australia but not Israel?Hypocrits.He was a well known lawyer Jew.
Anyway you people should go talk to your communist prime minister Gillard the Dillard about this.Such is the freedom hating morons you are.Oh and by the way how come Julia Gillard has’nt faced her treason charges yet?Yeah look it up why dont you.
Dingo,
“Science,genetics, biology proves such.”
Which Biology book have you been reading? care to share the source?
theantibogan says: “Simplicity? Bullshit.”
Fish and chips
Stubbies shorts
Aeroplane jelly
Mad Max
Hills Hoist rotary clothes line
“Prisoner”
Utes
AFL
Speedo
Blundstone
Big Banana/Big Pineapple (they’re big, not complicated)
Vegemite
Eskies
Rainwater tanks
Mr Whippy
Lamingtons
Meat pies
Weetbix
Ugg boots
Pavlova
Bonds
King Gee
AC/DC
Thongs
Zinc cream
Milo
Victa lawn mowers
Surfwear
Canned food (if it can be canned, we can it)
Australians have a preference toward simplicity.
That doesn’t mean *everything* is simple.
No society is absolutist (though some of the idiots on soapboxes with megaphones are).
It’s just a general inclination toward simplicity, not complexity, and multiculturalism goes against the grain.
Perhaps you and all your megaphoned friends are cosmopolitan arty-farty pretentious designer internationalists, so you think everyone is like your friends.
There’s nothing necessarily wrong with being a post-racial, post-national, universalist as long as you’re honest about it.
But you claim you are acting in the interests of “Australians”, when you don’t either know or respect what they are.
Burrp!!😐
Is that someone’s shopping list?
It’s just Shockadelic claiming to speak on behalf of all Australians while accusing everyone else of doing the same thing. 😀
I can add a shit load more of Aussie culture than that.As well as the explanation on why the cultural marxists try and denigrate it.
Did you know that many prominent politicians fullly support the asianisation of Australia?
Hmmm.
Im going to enjoy making these so called anti racists look as stupid as i know they are.Been debating them for over 20yrs and making them look like the morons they are.
Dingo,
Why would politicians support ‘asianisation’? they them selves aren’t Asian & the people voting for them aren’t Asian either. And Newly arrived migrants aren’t allowed to vote until they become Australian citizens.
The logic there is kind of a FAIL!
So far you have only made yourself look stupid 😦
Looking at the list, what a boring life Shockadelic has (or is that his “culture”). Boring as fuck. I’m a white Australian, but you don’t speak for me, dumb arse.
you don’t understand him either…
Shockadelic like to use items owned or was brought to Australia mostly by overseas company?
Good on them!!!!
Also they should realise Members of ACDC were migrants from Scotland.
Err…fish and chips is British, AFL is probably a combination of Gaelic football and the ancient Aboriginal game of Margrook, Mel Gibson was born in New York and is a dual citizen, AC/DC spent most of their time touring as an international rock band – there is no racism in the music biz except for those few pathetic losers who peddle hate music, virtually everything you have mentioned has a variant in the UK, the US and several other countries.
Canned food was invented by the Americans as a way of feeding their soldiers and later on the cowboys on the trail.
Simple perhaps. Uniquely Australian, no. And do you know what? It doesn’t matter.
Yes i mean anti white ,hypocritically racist,cultural marxist grubs like you.
Are you trying to down play the White Australian culture?
You don’t know it because your probably not 1 of us.Sucks to feel like an outcaste in somebody elses country.(ps Dont try any of that ABoriginals were here first crap either, they were the 5th wave of immigrants to this continent, not the first.ps Ever heard of the Australian pygmies?Probably not because your a dickhead.
Members were migrants from Scotland like Jimmy Barnes.
ACDC Members were migrants from Scotland like Jimmy Barnes.
So what is this about hating Migrants?
“Simple perhaps. Uniquely Australian, no.”
I didn’t say these were ‘exclusive’, just examples of preference for simplicity.
“And do you know what? It doesn’t matter.”
To you.
Oh look, the blog has a new name.
Again.
Is this going to be a weekly occurence?
Maybe you should have a proper brainstorm (presuming each of you still has a functioning brain) and *decide* what the hell you want to call yourselves.
You don’t make a name for yourself without *a* name.
*snore*
boring…
TAB’s blog! TAB’s rules! …… 🙂 simple
Love it or L-E-A-V-E it..
Make ya own blog, change names hourly, see who gives a fuck?
Criticising the blog for changing its name. Seriously, that’s the best the white supremacist bogan trash movement can come up with? And your point was?
Terror AUSTRALIS!!! : “*snore*
boring…”
You took the words right out of my mouth.
M-Dawg!! “Love it or L-E-A-V-E it..”
Now where have I heard that before?
“Make ya own blog, change names hourly, see who gives a fuck?”
Nobody will give a fuck if I change the names hourly.
And the same goes here.
What are people going to tell their friends?
I found this site called “antibogan”, no “Full of Racists”, no “UnAustralian”, no “Anti-racism anti-sexism anti-discrimination” (could you get more generic?), oh never mind.
BTW, I tried this great drink, called Coca-Cola, no Coka-Cobo, no Cola-Kobi, no Coki-Loki, no Cobo-Loco, oh never mind, have a Pepsi.
Why Why: “Criticising the blog for changing its name.”
Again and again and again.
“Seriously, that’s the best the white supremacist bogan trash movement can come up with?”
There’s a movement now?
“And your point was?”
I believe the “point” was already stated.
Burrrrp!!
You heard that before from your ilk, insecure scary little white supremacists.
Fuck off! shock stupid cunt, you’re wasting time & space.
Get off ya arse & do something about what ever fuck is bothering you.
And then you will receive the consequences.., you can deal with them, because you think you are fucking ‘know it all’ ‘got it all right’, you can fight ya battle successfully if that is the case.
Try it, see what happens.
Threats from a moron.
Takes one to know one 🙂 ey?
Shockadelic: Nobody will give a fuck if I change the names hourly. And the same goes here.
Clearly YOU gave so much of a fuck that you had to comment on it. Or is your hypocrisy so ingrained that you don’t realise you’re demonstrating it? Again and again and again?
Shockadelic: There’s a movement now?
A pathetic one which will never speak to the majority of Australians. Thankfully. There’s a website (clearly doesn’t get as much attention as this one), and protests of four people. And a representative called Shockadelic who doesn’t seem to have much to do except write one thousand word essays on this site, and then does word counts and complain about the length of posts other people put on this site (oh, have I mentioned that you are a hypocrite?).
Whatever happened to wanting to change people’s minds diretcly (sic) and influencing the passersby on this website Shocky? You changed that one didn’t you? Whatever happened to providing debate because all the poor communists on this site have the same opinion? Oh wait, you changed that one too. What other retard excuse are you going to come up with for spending so much time on this site? What are you going to change it to next?
And then because you’ve run out of ammunition, you criticise this website for changing (its name)?
Have I mentioned how much of a hypocrite you are? 😀 😀 😀
I am so pleased to have discovered this blog. Public naming and shaming – what a wonderful and simple idea! I certainly hope that featured individuals step back and rethink their opinions. It is a rare occasion that I would use my real name to post on a website (I do like so have some modicum of ‘net privacy) but here I am absolutely proud to display my name and say: “I support the anti-bogan blog”.
I have lived abroad for a couple of years now and one of the reasons I have a disinterest in returning to Aus is the intensely racist culture there. Of course, I have seen local racism in every place I’ve travelled but I find the racism in Australia to be particularly rampant. Not to mention baseless – Australia is a country made up of immigrants and descendents of immigrants. It makes no sense!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for trying. I think it’s an uphill battle (like trying to get Australians to stop smashing each other in the faces with glasses or punching each other up while drunk) but I’m just happy you’re out there giving it a go.
Farking TRAITOR.
“Public naming and shaming – what a wonderful and simple idea! ”
Be careful what you wish for.Eyes could be on YOU.
Sure you have nothing to be ashamed of ?
You better hope you don’t .
Anybody can dig up peoples past bitch.
Guess what/
KHARMA IS A BITCH,BITCH.
It’s spelled Karma, bitch.
John J Jigaboo (12:24:48) : fake profile?
A ass is a donkey like hoof animal, so are you saying others should take it up the animal?
LOL
By the way abuse is a sign of weakness from those scare and stupid to debate the issue.
can I email you some screanshots that I think belong here?
Just letting you know. Your disclaimer doesnt protect you. You have identified people associated with issues who have said positve things. They can at law now proceed to a legal action against you. For fun I’ve decidede to contact everyperson I can identify from your page and tell them to immediately seek legal advice.
It’s like offending someone but thinking its ok by saying I dont mean to be rude but……..
You have you’re rights but so do other people.
“You have identified people associated with issues who have said positve things.”
Hi Jamie. You would make a wonderful lawyer! Imagine defending a guy who murdered a child saying that he hadn’t done anything wrong because he had donated money to charities and volunteered in the SES.
“They can at law now proceed to a legal action against you.”
They made public comments. What legal rationale are they going to pursue, Jamie? That we fabricated their comments? A Facebook subpoena should handle that one. That we defamed them by published the very same comments that they published? Well that’s a bit dense, isn’t it?
“It’s like offending someone but thinking its ok by saying I dont mean to be rude but…….”
No it’s not. It’s like dancing naked in the street and then getting upset when people look at you. What people choose to do in the public sphere is up to them. But how it is interpreted by said public is out of their control.
“You have you’re rights but so do other people.”
How do I know you’re a hopeless faux-intellect, racism/sexism apologist? Because you stand up for them, and you can’t use ‘your/you’re’ in the correct context.
You fail. Go away.
Another bush lawyer. You know nothing. Your “legal advice” does not meet the non-trivial test.
this website should be shut down. you’re just as bad as the ‘racists’. your targetting of bogans could be classified as racism too
No it couldn’t. Go away dope.
Yes it can dopey.Now you go away or ill educate you and you will be a bogans bitch.Freak.
Just found this…. great site…Name and shame!
With sites like this, coupled with proper education and pro-active solutions (although I dont see this coming from the government who seem to inflame racism to win the bogan majority vote) we can hopefully make inroads.
Although I despair – as these bogans eventually have children generation after generation will become brainwashed with their uneducated racist rhetoric
oh shut up idiot its new age inbreds like you thats kill australia as we know it there no real aussie know thanks to the foreigners
How sad your life must be now.
And, uh… where were your people from? Oh, unless you’re Indigenous?
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.(something i was taught when i was old enough to talk to others.)
Grow up you so called anti racist grubs.You are the racists here.You all support the white genocide policy which is the multi”CULT”ural policy.(For you smarties please allow me to explain it using the UN and Geneva convention meanings.Forced non white immigration into all white communities and only white communities is Genocide , it does not allow us whites a living space of our own.So seeing as we Aussies never voted for the multiculturalism policy(to which was not wanted when first introduced by way of stealth nor is it wanted now)it is a forced policy which is what the Un and Geneva conventions call GENOCIDE.Look it up you bloody fools.
Stop the Asianisation of Australia.
(ps a large percentage of asians and other non whites come from NZ and Britain, not to mention they make up the bulk of all immigrants as a whole.Also asians have been the largest settlers here since 1982/83.So to those who think we are n ot being taken over by asians, one only needs to open their bloody eyes and see it for yourself.)
This website is rubbish and against freedom of speech.
You people need to build a bridge and get the fark over it you sensitive self serving white guilt tripped morons.
Ill give you an example of your idiocy.
You so called anti racist multiculturalists dont even realise you are destroying the Aboriginal race through inbreeding,mongrelisation.Multiculturalism is doing to the Aborigines exactly what the colonialists wanted to do to them.Breed them out of existance.The colonialists couldnt do it but you multiculturalists are sure doing 1 good job of doing it.For example you fools, when white man first came to Australia, the Aboriginal population was estimated to be anywhere from 150,000 to around 300,000 pure bred Aborigines.They are now over 500,000.Only around 40,000 pure blooded Aborigines exist.Thats right over 450,000 so called Aborigines have white,asian,polynesian,melanesian,etc blood in them.That to me is genocide of the ABoriginal people.Estimated time before the full bloods die out?Round 40yrs or so at the rate they interbreed.Bye Bye the different Aboriginal cultures.
If you people are so not racist, then why dont you ask News Limited for a European all star side to play against the Aboriginal all star side or the Polynesian all star side or the Melanesian all star side or even the asian, negro,middle eastern semite all star side.Why be racist?
I also notice how you only include WHITE racists..pmsl.Thats racist in itself.I notice you dont have the youtube video of the Middle Easterners rapping to the song wogs all over sydney and threatening white Aussies, you know like they were allowed to do after the Cronulla riots,like burn churches, bash any white person they seen ,many hospitalised and allowed to do so by the police.Car loads going through Sydney waging wanto damage.Unlike the 2 or 3 middle easterners who had a couple of bruises after being attacked by Aussies.
Some fun facts about the Cronulla riots for those that don’t know.
1)The Cronulla riots were attended by asians, islanders, Aboriginals etc etc .
2)It was a black Aboriginal fellow who lead the f off lebs chant.
3)It was a black islander who was arrested for wearing a mohamed f’s camels tshirt.
lol, so much for it being a white riot huh.
Off course does this website ever talk about the treatment white Aussies receive from the non white minorities?
Whites are more likely to be a victim of a race hate crime, not non white minorities.
We white Aussies got the blame for the Indian student attacks when it wasnt even us , it was middle easterners, negros,Aborigines and even Indians themselves who were attacking them.
Who the fark do you hypocritical racist ,genocidal maniacs think you are?
You darn ill informed fools who support multi”cult”uralism are actually supporting the very death, extinction,genocide of the DIVERSITY you all claim to embrace.Such is your blind bloody ignorance.
Your cultural marxist educators have taught you all well.
ps Why do the schools teach our white children to feel guilty about past wrongdoings of their forebares(holocaust,slavery,colonialism,stolen generations,Indian massacres etc etc etc ) and not the non whites past wrongdoings?
IE There were more white slaves in America than white slaves, blacks also owned white slaves, the father of American slavery was a black man, not white.(JOhn Casor), matter of fact it was the semite Jews who brought the majority of slaves to America not whites.They owned 11 out of the 12 major slaves boats.Matter of fact, between the negros and Jews they both owned the majority of slaves.75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.Yet we get the whole blame for it.
ps I can prove everything ive said here for anybody wanting to know more.
SAY NO TO WHITE GUILT and cultural marxist grubs educatiing your white children.
They are child abusers, teaching your white children to feel guilty for non white minorities and teaching black children to hate white people for past wrong doings and not teaching them the truth about their own peoples past.
Go read the Fabrication of Aboriginal History by Kieth WIndshuttle at the syndey line website for the lies they teach.Blaming us for Aboriginal massacres that whites had nothing to do with.
Anyway i thought id post the facts for you darn multiculturalist fools, just to piss you off.Cant beat the facts.Thats why i stick to them.
“…it does not allow us whites a living space of our own…”
Oh no!
“…we Aussies never voted for the multiculturalism policy…”
Nor did we vote for any of the laws that currently exist in our society. Democratically elected political parties form policy based on what’s in the nation’s best interests, while gauging public opinion in order for re-election.
“…call GENOCIDE.Look it up you bloody fools.”
Genocide:
“noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.”
Sorry, but nobody is dying, therefore there’s no genocide occurring.
“…blah blah blah, ‘Asianisation’ etc…”
There are over 4 billion Asians in the world. There are 22 million Australians. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more of them, sorry.
“…blah blah blah you’re killing the Aboriginals…”
Hopefully you’re not being serious. White European settlers practically inflicted genocide on the Aboriginal people 200 odd years ago. Aboriginals now make up less than 3% of our population. As for saying ‘bye bye’ to the Aboriginals, they largely have a different idea of what sustaining a culture involves. The culture and history of the Aboriginal people is structurally resilient and stronger than ever. It has survived over 40,000 years without the need for books or computers.
“If you people are so not racist, then why dont you ask News Limited for a European all star side to play against the Aboriginal all star side or the Polynesian all star side or the Melanesian all star side or even the asian, negro,middle eastern semite all star side.Why be racist?”
I don’t remember personally asking News Limited for this competition. It was created to acknowledge the growing presence of Indigenous players in our game. While Indigenous peoples make up less than 3% of our population, they still managed to win last year’s game.
The authors of this blog are white Australians. We are embarrassed at the actions of those who represent us. We are also part of the dominant culture where racism and discrimination is more prevalent.
“Some fun facts about the Cronulla riots for those that don’t know.
1)The Cronulla riots were attended by asians, islanders, Aboriginals etc etc .
2)It was a black Aboriginal fellow who lead the f off lebs chant.
3)It was a black islander who was arrested for wearing a mohamed f’s camels tshirt.
lol, so much for it being a white riot huh.”
Never have I had so much ‘fun’ reading garbage ‘facts’ and untruths.
“Whites are more likely to be a victim of a race hate crime, not non white minorities.”
Completely untrue. Statistically disproven.
“We white Aussies got the blame for the Indian student attacks when it wasnt even us , it was middle easterners, negros,Aborigines and even Indians themselves who were attacking them.”
That is not racism, nor is it institutionalised racism.
“You darn ill informed fools who support multi”cult”uralism are actually supporting the very death, extinction,genocide of the DIVERSITY you all claim to embrace.Such is your blind bloody ignorance.”
You’re not very smart, are you?
“ps Why do the schools teach our white children to feel guilty about past wrongdoings of their forebares(holocaust,slavery,colonialism,stolen generations,Indian massacres etc etc etc ) and not the non whites past wrongdoings?”
Untrue. Have you had a look at any Syllabus documents recently?
“ps I can prove everything ive said here for anybody wanting to know more.”
ROFLMFAO
“They are child abusers, teaching your white children to feel guilty for non white minorities and teaching black children to hate white people for past wrong doings and not teaching them the truth about their own peoples past.”
Please read some Syllabus documents.
“Go read the Fabrication of Aboriginal History by Kieth WIndshuttle at the syndey line website for the lies they teach.Blaming us for Aboriginal massacres that whites had nothing to do with.”
Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.
“Anyway i thought id post the facts for you darn multiculturalist fools, just to piss you off.Cant beat the facts.Thats why i stick to them.”
I didn’t see any facts in your post.
Thats because you are a certified fuckwit.
Prove any of it wrong why dont you stupid.
Go on AMAZE ME.
I didn’t see many facts – just your opinions. Do you know the difference? I did see a few suspect statistics however…:
“75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.”
Where did these stats come from? And why do they add up to 115%?
Pfft.
you’ve just proven how stupid you are right there TAB. The fact that those numbers add up to 115% is irrelevant as each one referes to a different data set.
Pfft yourself dipshit. Commies can’t do maths apparently.
Perhaps if Dingo was able to express his statistics clearly and logically, and with some kind of tagged reference, then the statistics would have been easier to understand.
Gotta love the ‘facts’ according to ‘Dingo’ …. Quality reading if ever you’re in need of some bowel relief 🙂
Facts are facts, wanna see them dopey dora?
Or do you just want to play court jester?
Go on stupid ask me to prove something i have said.
let me show you how to use your god damn literal,lateral,logical,critical,common sense thinking brain moron.
I would just like to say thank you. This website is a prime example of how we Australians fall short in our compassion and understanding.
Hey stupid, Tolerance is the last virtue of a decaying society.
Good god you cultural marxists are stupid.
Fair suck of the sav.
Great site guys… The funniest thing is reading how the racist bogans squirm and scamper for cover once their pathetic rants are outed to the wider community, away from their white bred world and moronic ‘mates’…. Keep up the great work 🙂
Who is scampering for cover john you racist hypocrit?
Come on be my debate bitch…lmfwao.
Ah the closet door just opened and Dingo sashayed out…
First of all, I have to say that this website is completely outrageous. It is an absolute breach of privacy, and in terrible taste. It is intimidating to think how little respect there is for privacy in todays society. I am in no way condoning the racist or sexist comments made by the people who have been exploited and exposed on this website. I also do not condone the exploiters – YOU.
Secondly, as far as Facebook is concerned, all of the information that a user uploads on his/her facebook page is owned by that user. So, one can only assume that, when you obtained the status updates to post all over the internet for all to see, you did so legally….perhaps you purchased the information for a small sum? Or you traded it for a “get out of jail free” card in future racist-status-updating fiasco’s? But of course, you did ask permission, right?
And lastly, who could forget this one. The good ole 1948 Declaration of human rights which state….and I will quote here, “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” So what does that mean for you? Well, friend, it means that I can be a racist if I want to (I don’t, mind you – but I could if I wanted) and there is nothing that you can do about it! There now! Doesn’t that make you feel unimportant? Well news flash for you, you ego-inflated do-gooder(s), you ARE unimportant. Go away and leave the bogans alone. If they all get sacked, who will pave the roads?
95% of the screenshots posted on our blog are from PUBLIC Facebook fan pages and groups. The other 5% belong to people who have been exposed by other websites (eg. pwsnt.com) and have left their profiles open to the public.
Thank you for quoting the 1948 Declaration of Human Rights. Here are some more quotes from it:
Article 1.
* All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
* Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
* Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 7.
* All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 14.
* (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
* (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 18.
* Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
# (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
Your next task is to find the current documents in Australia relating to Anti Discrimination, Racial Discrimination and violations of the Telecommunications Act (particularly the section where it states the illegality of using a carrier service to harass/intimidate on the basis of gender/sexuality/race/religion/disability.
I noticed you conveniently left out the Un and Geneva convention terms for genocide.
Are you a complete mug or just trying to suit your own argument?
http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html
What definition are you referring to?
hey Jane stop being a politically correct moron and apologising for things there is no need to apologise for.
hey Jane while your apologising for non white behaviour your white daughters are being gang raped.
White Bogan and proud, at least we bogans have a brain unlike you stupid lib eral white guilt tripped scum.
Yes we bogans not only built this country but we ALSO BUILT OUR ROADS.
pERHAPS YOU SHOULD FUCK OFF TO COMMUNIST CHINA OR DICTATORIAL SHIP ISRAEL.TRAITOR.
I forgot – white people don’t rape other people’s daughters. How silly of me to think that.
Why doesnt tab the coward have a reply button?
In answer to the moron, try c,d,e.
pffft i eat dumb racist hypocrits like you for breakfast.
White people rape other [peoples daughters but your more likely to be raped by a non white,per capita.You know what per capita means dont you dopey?
Non whites are grooming young white females into sex industry.White people are not grooming young non white females into the sex industry.
Are you aware of the massive scale that white women are being raped across the world?No i didnt think so your a racist hypocrit thats why.Sweden,Germany,SA,Australia,England etc are all facing massive non white male on white female rapes.How bout Switzerland where 90% of their gaol inmates are non white?yet they are minority.
Would you like to see some doj figures ,you marxist grub?
1. You are WRONG.
2. When information is on a public site it is public. TAB does not copy and paste comments and attempt to deceive readers about their provenance for its own profit. THAT would be breach of copyright, plagiarism, intellectual property theft etc.
3. You can be a racist if you want to. It won’t do much for your social life or get you a job but if you feel a burning passion for the precursor to genocide then go hard lady. Except do it in private, behind closed doors, silently and without minors being present.
4. You are STLL WRONG.
So when we find out who you people are and the beliefs you hold which disgusts Australians ,you wont mind when we expose you lot for all to see, maybe even pay you a visit, lets face it we know where you are.Cowardly marxist grubs.
Its all public as you say, so when a gang of bogans pay you a visit because they do not like your beliefs, well hey, whats good for the geese is good for the ganders.
Quote Jane: “It is intimidating to think how little respect there is for privacy in todays society.”
So if a pedophile and his pedophile posse were to get rumbled with their misadventures because they ‘forgot’ to keep their privacy settings on maximum then that’s ok but not if ppl are bagging the disadvantaged, different ethnic and religious groups, gender or making jest of flood victims then it’s justified? Breaking the law is breaking the law. We need to be held accountable for what we say and do. Education not legislation, honey.
P.S Where are your principles Jane? Don’t pretend to stand by them if you can’t uphold them.
Would love to chat with the writers.
They can contact me at the email or website listed and will establish my credentials from there.
Cheers.
Sam
I found this web site to be an interesting read but I did have a couple of concerns.
The main one being that the ‘about us’ section is blank? Obviously I understand that you can’t give out your home address or anything but nothing at all?
Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?
Why only the focus on racism from whites & not other ethnic groups?
“Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?”
Does it matter?
“Why only the focus on racism from whites & not other ethnic groups?”
This question has been answered many times before on here. If you feel that there is enough anti-white racism in the social media, by all means – make your own blog.
When I pee it hurts. I wish my penis wasn’t so infected.
dingodongar@live.co.uk
Open your eyes stupid.
Whos attacking the indian student ?
Come on WHo was attacking them, white aussies or non whites?
Thety are ant
i white racist grubs ,thats why.
We are going to expose these racist hypocrits.
Kharma is a bitch.
I do hope they have there asses covered.They are covered by jewish zionists who have infiltrated and managed to control our major political parties.
They do not target non whites racist cunts because they are too bloody gutless too.
they target white guilt tripped whites.
When they meet proud white men like myself they go to water.Media cunts included.
They have nothing on me other than bringing my truth to other white folks.
I scare them because i tell the truth.,
I dare any jew media to debate me live on youtube without censorship.
pffftt.
Oh look a real live nutzi.
Your punctuation is almost as woeful as your politics.
Kiss your white supremacist arse goodbye.
I like this site, im so sick of the awful discrimination i see & hear by some aussies these days. I was born in England but grew up in Australia. Im blonde, blue eyed and white and i have been told (when i point out that im an immigrant) that its ok coz i “look & sound australian”!! The only thing i don’t agree with is that these ppl are being labelled “bogans”. I can think of many words to describe these ppl (bigoted, xenophobic, prejudiced, sectarians, even chauvinistic pigs!) but i dont think bogan is right. I have always considered myself a bit of a bogan as i love heavy metal and wear a lot of black as does my hubby but i would absolutley hate to be placed the same catagory as these kind of ppl. I know a lot of bogans and non-bogan types and the strong undercurrent of racisim&sexism in this country spans all types of people from all walks of life.
Your just a stupid pommy twit.
Meanwhile muslims are taking lover Britain.
Bloody fool.
You just like to try to offend ppl but you just made me laugh. Funny, funny guy Dingdong or was it Drongo? hahha Im a funny, funny Gal!! But seriously – Lighten up dude.
Also, your spelling is terrible. Ever heard of spell check? Calling people “dope” and “fool” is so old school and uncool.
yeh but some of us are heaps busy and just type our msg straight on the website. No time to do spell-check”. Also, who care, we all know what we are saying!
Mate, regarding the admission of being a “bogan” but that you are not a “racist”, why have you done this? This gives them idiots fuel.
Fir starters, have you seen what their descriptions/definitions of what a “bogan” is. Not nice – almost “Hitleresque” but in an alternate timeline where he spent life in and out of prison and never bothered to stimulate his mind.
Second, you should NEVER let the twits who made this site believe that even you yourself [an actual in-the-flesh “bogan”] accept that a “bogan”, whatever that is to you, is actually “RACIST”.
Read some of my posts, see if I can’t convince you that it is not the “poor white Anglos” [i.e. “bogans”] that are racist at all or bad people in any sense whatsoever. In fact, by proving that these “middle-class” leftists such as the ones on this site are extremely “class-bigoted” but for some reason they only openly admit this about the poor of their own ethnic race – “Anglos”.
In any case, I think that once it is proven that they treat the lower class whites with utter contempt and disgusting bullying tactics; then the logic of the situation carries itself automatically to also prove that they feel just as hateful towards and wish to mock just as much maybe more, the Australian aborigines, N & S American Indians, 80% at least of Asia, 100% of Africa and Middle-East.
Like to avoid questions? Ah, way to stick to the stereotype.
Please find the following evidence to support your claims against this website:
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are racists;
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are discriminatory;
* examples of where we’ve said that all whites are bogans;
* examples of where we’ve said that all bogans are white.
You’ve got nearly 700 posts to peruse at our website. Good luck!
I have just left Australia to live permanently in France. The attitudes expressed above are the same here. There are lots of people from less well off EU countries looking for work in countries that are better off financially. Many people feel threatened. This is not new – neither in Australia or here. We just have to accept that there is far more mobility in the workforce now than in the past.
And that is not going to change any time soon. Those who don’t like this can leave the planet. Last I heard the moon was looking distinctly empty…
Ha ha!
yes we are aware that muslims and negros regularly burn down your churches and have over 300 race riots a year in France, thanks for reminding the multicult idiots.
I see you live in the UK. Do you know many Muslims in Australia?
Oh yeah France another country being taken over by muslims and non whites.What a disgrace France is.
How many towns and cities did the muslims burn last year?Over 300 wasnt it?
Hey although your site does point out the obvious that no doubt where ever you go there will be racism of varying level, your aggressive nature could be misinterpreted as a group with a axe to grind. You are highlighting a minority of people and probably to some extent exacerbating racial problem. Some positive post would help. I see racism everywhere and it rarely from one side. The human race is leaps and bounds ahead of where it used to be (and has a long way to go). We have only got this far more so because of people who have the courage and lead by positive example and action not negative and aggressive approaches. There is good and bad in everyone, it’s the others around us that influence how we develop and grow, hate and aggression no matter what the intention will just promote the same. Couldn’t bogan be considered a racial slur as it is all relative. I regard myself as someone lucky enough to be resident of planet earth for a brief moment in time and related to all other life not just human. We are treating other residents of this planet far worse than we are treating each other in the human race. How we humans waste this fantastic opportunity to be alive for this brief moment in time
There’s a few positive posts intertwined into our site. Just have a look through.
Ian, the majority ,yes the majority of Aussies are against multiculturalism, always have been always will be.\
Why talk lies?
Got the poll results and statistics to back that up?
In the Scanlon Foundation’s
Mapping Social Cohesion survey in 2010, the proportion of people who considered that the immigration intake in
Australia is ‘too high’ rose to 47 per cent, a 10 per cent increase since the previous year. On the other hand, the
survey also revealed broad support for a non-discriminatory approach to immigration, with approximately 70
per cent of respondents taking an attitude that was either positive or neutral towards immigrants from various
ethnic backgrounds.
Whilst 47% isnt a “majority” it’s mighty close.
You mean the majority of bogan morons like yourself dont you ?.. You know, the ones who crack a boner every time they think of the ‘White Australia’ policy… Pity us ‘wogs’ came along and ruined your redneck paradise lol.
A poll conducted by the Daily telegraphed a few days ago suggests 80% of aussies think multiculturalism has failed.
Polls conducted when the multiculturalism policy was introduced by way of stealth as well as polls conducted after the Cronulla riots suggest most aussies do not want multiculturalism.
The scanlon report is left winged biased.
Newspaper polls aren’t valid as they do not take a sample of the population. They rely on people influenced enough to ring up and cast their vote.
there is no such thing as the human race.Only the Human races.
Thats why i can tell you what colour the human races are yet you cannot tell me what colour the human race is.
Good god you cultural marxist educated morons are dumb.
hi, have to say even though I have taught in Indigenous schools and communities I am still shocked but some of the outrageous beliefs and comments that exist in Australia and not just for Indigenous people of course but any sort of minority. How great is it that that guy has lost his job etc? well done for highlighting his beyond disgusting behaviour in public! just wanted to say keep up the good work xxx
Traitors will be tried for treason.
You are 1 of them.
:psing your job over your beliefs?
You sure about that stupid?
What are your beliefs ?
Dont say your not racist because everybody is, including yourself,
Nature makes it that way dopey.
Nature sure made you dopey…
Quote Dingbat: “Traitors will be tried for treason.”
R O F L!
Quote Dingbat: “…the majority ,yes the majority of Aussies are against multiculturalism”
L M A O!
Dingbat: “…there is no such thing as the human race”
PA HA HA!
Quote Dingbat: “Dont say your not racist because everybody is, including yourself… Nature makes it that way”
L M F A O!
Are you selling tickets or touring Australia soon? My friends and I have had a hard day surfing and now we’re having a few lazy beers and having a gleeful time analysing your comments. You’re a great comic! Love your work mate! Cheers!
The Aboriginals are embracing their own racial genocide.
Take a look at the low iqd abos, they say they love their culture while the majority of them breed outside of it.Hypocrits.Just like this website.
Abos are lazy thats why they are in the predicament they are in.Not because of us whites.
We have doubled their life expectancy, give them free houses, food, education,jobs specifically for them, yet they still whinge.
Lol very nice site, theres quite a few intelligent posts too, which is good to see. It’s actually quite interesting to see that these people, who hate on those of non-white background and those that do not speak english, are the ones who can’t spell to save their lives.
Don’t get me wrong though, I’m Asian and i love Australia. I guess racism is something that exists everywhere? It DOES happen in countries in Asia, where Caucasians are the minority group. But then again, people with these racist views and attitude in Australia are a minority. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Australia shouldn’t be seen as a racist country as a result of what these people say, because the majority of Aussies are awesome 😀
Go back to asia , asians are the most racist people on the planet.
racist asians calling whites racist,more hypocrits.
Lol i’d bet you’re a tough guy aren’t you? Asians are the most racist people? Which do you hear more of? White gangs picking on other races and ethnics, or asian gangs picking on whites?
Before you call asians racist again, bite your fucking tongue and think about the shit that comes out of your throat kid, because you’re gonna choke on it someday.
Doing exactly what you say “Bogans” do. Taking information from means unknown then using just the parts required then play judge jury and executioner well done congrats its ARSEHOLES like you that have taken away the right to freedom of speech. P.S DONT FORGET TO TWIST THIS TO MAKE A RACIST SLANT. Finally if i was that guy that got sacked i’d have your arse in court for anything i could even breach of copyright as you steal others words without permittion or concent…..
“…well done congrats its ARSEHOLES like you that have taken away the right to freedom of speech.”
No, freedom of speech is still around. It’s been against the law to discriminate on the basis of race/religion since around 1970.
Freedom of speech does not exist in Australia.
hate speech has only been around recently ,added by the genocidal maniac cultural marxists.
Who are you trying to kid moron?
The Racial Discrimination Act came into effect in 1970.
The Anti Discrimination Act came into effect in 1977.
The Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act – 1986.
25 – 40 years old.
What a brain wave lol… Trying to sue your way out of trouble would be a good way of deflecting attention away from your massively moronic behaviour…I’m surprised Mensa hasnt heard of you…
Its r soles like us Whites we have freedom of speech.
blacks,asians,jews hate free speech.
We dont fear what you say stupid, you fear what we say.\
fucking scaredy cat.
“Finally if i was that guy that got sacked i’d have your arse in court for anything i could even breach of copyright as you steal others words without permittion or concent…..”
Lol I don’t think you can copyright a passing remark/comment that you make on the internet, if my knowledge of the law doesn’t fail me.
An interesting point, the Constitution doesn’t actually state that we have the freedom of speech, it’s just an implied right that everyone assumes to have.
“75% of Jewish people owned slaves , 35% of black people owned slaves and only about 5% of white people actually owned slaves.”
Where did these stats come from? And why do they add up to 115%?
Pfft.
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Are you a completely stupid marxist moron?Do you not understand proper English?
75% of the Jewish population of America owned slaves.35% of the negro population of America owned slaves, 0.5% of Americas white population owned slaves,What part of that do you not understand?
Do you know that in America, 37000 white women are raped by black men annually, only 10 black women are raped by white men annually.Would you like to compare per capita rates dopey dora?
Whats with the 115% stupid, where did that pop out of, your rear end?
You were NOT clear when you first gave your statistics, NOR did you reference them. Where did you get the statistics from?
“Do you know that in America, 37000 white women are raped by black men annually, only 10 black women are raped by white men annually.”
Where did you get these statistics from?
“Whats with the 115% stupid, where did that pop out of, your rear end?”
Read your initial post again. 75% + 35% + 5% = 115%.
Ill be back tomorrow, if you truelly want to know the answer email me.As in anybody else that wants to know.Those figures are from the American DOJ figures by the way.
Learn to comphend.
35% of the American negro pop powned slaves.75% of the American jew pop owned slaves.0.5% of the White pop of America owned slaves.
Now again stupid, tell me how it comes to 75%plus35% plus 0.5% equals 115% .Do you not comprehend the term per capita?Going by your own figures it would be 110.5% not 115%.Stupid idiot.
Between the jews and negros, they owned the majority of slaves in America, theyn also owned plenty of white slaves owning so many white slaves it was outlawed not once but twice.White slaves were worth around 5 silver dollars negros around 40 .
Ill be back tomorrow as i have to gto to bed to get up for work tomorrow.
Ill be more than happy to answer question then or in email.
happy ruth hunting.
Oh dear…
* You said (initially) 5% of white people.
* You made no clear assertion that you were referring to per capita figures within America.
* You still haven’t linked us to where those statistics came from.
Goodnight baby.
I wonder how the Indigeneous people felt, when the First Fleet arrived and their land got taken over quite forcefully. Hmmm, thats something to think about, for those who are whinging about other races coming over to Australia.
How do you think those before the aborigines felt getting their land stolen by the aborigines forcefully ?
They did the same to other tribes.Even eating other Aboriginal tribes.
What do you say about that part of ABoriginal history dope?
Some aboriginal tribes had the mathmatical marriage system.more violent and backwards than the muslim systems.
Some Aboriginal tribes were not only canniblaistic but had such customs as knocking the teeth out pf the 5yr male children to warn them of the female folk.Then smashed the penises of the 9yr males to further warn them of the male elders female folk/.
Want to talk about aboriginal customs.///lmfwao
I’m sorry, I didn’t realise that you were around 40,000 years ago to judge the cultural practices of the time.
Where is your proof Aborigines were here 40,000 years ago first?
For example they can date Aborigina rock paintings back 40,000 years but they cannot date the White rock paintings found here in Australia(Hawkesbury river area).They also cannot date the Egyptian rock paintings as well.
So how come they can date Aboriginal rock paintings but not the white and Egyptian rock paintings?
Yeah we know why because Aborigines as we know them have only been here for around 1000 years not 40,000.
Did you know that the Tasmanian Aboriginals were not related biologically to the indian,asian aborigines from the mainland?
Yet they get reparations for them.
Thats like germans getting reparations for the holocaust instead of jews.
You’re hilarious.
hey TAB,
I really admire what you’re seeking to do with your website. You guys seem really smart and I guess I just want to know what you guys think makes someone racist.
does it mean thinking ur better than people from other races?
or generally finding people you’ve met from certain backgrounds annoying?
or just generalising about other races?
can u just not make comments about other races anymore?
I don’t want to be racist. But how can you avoid that if you have certain opinions?
Is it wrong to not like the way Australia has changed as a result of immigration?
Is it wrong to not want immigration?
Or as Australians do we just have to accept this kind of change to conform with ‘Australian culture’?
I note that these aren’t my personal views, i’m just trying to figure out where the boundaries are of acceptable opinions.
I don’t believe in uninhibited free speech – hateful speech leads to disatrous consequences (e.g. WWII) and just a less happy society.
But at the same time, from what I gather from the comments above, there appear to be a lot of frustrated people with opinions who are sick of being told they can’t have a certain opinion. Where are the boundaries?
“Is it wrong to not like the way Australia has changed as a result of immigration?”
It depends. Do you not like it because you see more Asians than you did before?
Australia should always be a majority WHITE country.
Got a problem with that, tell the asians thier countries should take in tens of millions of negros, mexicans, whites, middle easterners etc etc into their countries like all white countries and only white countries are forced to do.
You anti white racist hypocrit.
Please proofread.
Free speech is free speech, even the hateful speech.
if you do not like free speech then get out of our country ,soon we will get rid of these disgusting anti freedom hate speech laws.
Seriously whats the difference between calling someone a black cunt or just a cunt.?
Come on geniuses are both not hate speech?yet only 1 will get you charged.Why?
mary, Only true blue Aussies know Aussie culture tthese cultural marxist misfits are cowardly anti white genocidal maniacs.
We are gunning for these cowardly fucks.meaning we are washing away their white guilt tripped ideals with the truth and they hate it ,thats why they want to ban what we say.
Free speech to these cowardly anti white racist marxist grubs is like kryptonite was to superman.
They hate truth.
Wouldnt it be fair to say that you are discriminating against this poor bloke with a family because of the way he thinks? or the way he speaks? or even the way he conducts himself? If we lived in the tolerant society that you are trying to promote via this website, you should be able to tolerate his behaviour. But really… If i knew your name and did a bit of investigating, then rang your place of employment and started to dob on you, for a converstaion you had between your friends that I had just stumbled apon. How would you feel if your life was completeley destroyed because of my interpretation of what i had heard?
There are other avenues you could have taken. You have not been appointed by the internet to troll for people’s comments. Yes, this guy does need to be re-educted about different races and cultures. But it will only increase the hatred when ridiculous events like this happen and are made public.
Now, I have read a lot of comments here and it seems when one side doesnt like what you have written, it turns to name calling. So I am expecting to be called a bogan or whatever.
But when you start using your superior intellect to insult people on this forum, take note, you also look like bogans. Just the people you are tring so hard to not be like.
The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society. Political correctness charged censorship only serves to engender resentment and distance between social groups.
“Wouldnt it be fair to say that you are discriminating against this poor bloke with a family because of the way he thinks?”
No.
“If we lived in the tolerant society that you are trying to promote via this website…”
This website does not push tolerance of racists and sexists. It pushes people to speak up and say no.
“You have not been appointed by the internet to troll for people’s comments.”
And you have not been appointed as the supreme web editor, critiquing blogs like this when there are a plethora of websites far worse than this one around.
“But it will only increase the hatred when ridiculous events like this happen and are made public.”
We emailed the guy and offered our sympathy at him losing his job. His former employer needs to blamed though, not us. And he makes a fine example.
“Now, I have read a lot of comments here and it seems when one side doesnt like what you have written, it turns to name calling.”
Sometimes yeah. But it goes both ways and if names hurt you, fuck off arse clown.
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society.”
Imagine if hordes of people jumped online and created Facebook groups about how much of a whore your mother is. How tolerant would you be?
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society. Political correctness charged censorship only serves to engender resentment and distance between social groups.”
Quoted for truth.
they are only interested in racist whites, racist non whites get a free ride.
The anti white racist scumbags they are.
jokes are funny.
You know, i’m really not anti-white, but the more i read, the more i feel anti-YOU, Dingo. What point in your life did you become such a hateful person? Perhaps you should work on developing empathy.
“The day when anyone can make jokes about anyone else and everyone laughs is the day we will live in a truly tolerant society.”
That was a quote that you obviously dont understand. It means that as you have stated :
“Imagine if hordes of people jumped online and created Facebook groups about how much of a whore your mother is. How tolerant would you be”
That tolerance is impossible. You have answered your own question.
And you don’t see the need for people to restrain themselves from acting that way?
If I can hold back from making generalist comments about taxi drivers, truck drivers and motorbike riders, then people can also hold back from making generalist comments about ethnicities and genders.
You would not be happy if a website opened up with pictures and jokes about your mother. Try the shoe on sometime.
You make a website about my mother, i make 1 about yours.
No problems.
Why worry unless what they were posting about your mother was truth?
“Why worry unless what they were posting about your mother was truth?”
Are you serious? That’s much worse. Imagine if someone made a website stating that your mother was a crack addicted whore working the streets of Sydney. You wouldn’t mind as you realised it wasn’t truth?
Boy, you’re more stupid than first thought.
This is a great site! Does anyone know if there is a similar site to name and shame bullies? Or if not what the legal status would be of hosting one since the majority would be school aged children?? So sick of hearing about friends childrens being bullied and seeing awful things written about them on facebook etc. Is definately something I would be interested in doing…
Contact TAB via the e mail
aard.action@gmail.com
There are legal ramifications because the bullies are minors, so are their victims, and it could lead to unwanted scrutiny of you, but together you may be able to come up with a creative and hard-hitting solution.
Schools are very limited in what they can do. Individual teachers are constrained in the actions they can take to protect kids and to “out” the bullies, much as they would like to.
Schools should be able to work with police and quite frankly police are not always available to deal with problems which don’t generate revenue or brownie points for governments.
An initiative which involves parents may work.
Generalisations come from observed behaviour.
Still hate the truth you anti white racist pig?
As far as us being one race: We are not one “race”, but we are one species, Homo sapiens. The definitions are not always unanimous about classifications, but the differences are more than obvious. The American anthropologist Carleton S. Coon indicates five major races: Australoid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Capoid, Congoid. There are then subraces of those as well.
TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions. -G.K. Chesterton
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“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”-George Orwell
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“If the White men won’t battle for Life and Race. The women and children, the Terror will face…David Lane & Lamb Gaede
When Indians have identity it is called culture.
When Blacks have identity it is called pride.
When Semites (Jews) have identity it is called history.
When White People have identity it’s called racism!
– Cydonia
Ein Reich Ein Volk Ein Fuckwit
Follow your leader
David Lane = convicted racist killer who is now dead thank fuck, except when Dingo wanks over the ashes – you do inhale them in your crack pipe sessions right?
Originator of the 14 farts which is basically an unhealthy Nazi paedophilic obsession with white children.
Lambe Gaede – little slapper exploited by her nutzi parents
*YAWN* …go away clown.
“Those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society [the mass media] constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of.”
– “Propaganda” by Edward Bernays
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I hate whites…: oops, is this thing on?
http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=4454331&nav=0RdE
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives…h_gets_him.php
Demond Washington, Athlete of the week, made the comment over the school PA that he hated whites and was going to kill [us] all.
after the scramble he
A. isn’t racist, just immature
B. didn’t know it was on
C. Is needed by the sports program
D. won’t even have his hand slapped
E. all of the above.
First, they ram hate crimes down our throat. Then they turn the cat around the other way and it’s only a bias crime, or immaturity whatever it takes that we get the message to shut up. There is a double standard and we’d better like it.
Where’s the ADL on this one?
14yr gets arrested for refusing to sit with non english speaking students because they were hindering her education.Say you hate whites and going to kill them all, you dont even get a slap on the wrist..wakey wakey whitey, this could have been your white daughter arrested or worse killed by the same negro who hates whites and wants to kill them.
twilight zone again]
In reply to this statement, what about the white girl whom was raped by a negro then forced to cheer for him ?
So a black guy was racist. That’s terrible I agree. Why don’t you start a website?
Nobody is argueing that only whites are racist. You posts prove nothing.
Tomorrow i will post the black on white rape figures and the racists calling for the deaths of white men,women and children.
Your cultural marxist hero nelson mandela the terrorist can be seen and heard on youtube singing KILL ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE.
Want to talk about racism you marxist cowardly grubs, im going to give it to you.
In the meantime check those links.
The tell us white folks why we should feel guilty.
Dingo,
Please save us all the pain, and stop posting these ridiculous comments. Not only do they make you sound closed minded and full of hate – and quite like a bullied, wanna-be political savant – they make you sound downright stupid. Let me quote you now: “White Bogan and proud, at least we bogans have a brain unlike you stupid liberal white guilt tripped scum.”
Please note that you made reference to MY lack of brain. You quickly followed this comment with another. I will quote you again here…
“When I pee it hurts. I wish my penis wasn’t so infected.” This certainly wasn’t what was discussed at any intellectual meeting I have ever attended. Maybe your brain isn’t quite as big as you think?
Maybe this is just the rant of a stupid little rookie boy pretending like some (probably somewhat illegal) website is the political big leagues….
And another thing. The statistics about 75% of Jews, 35% of negros, and 0.5 or 5% of whites do not add up to 115%, or 110.5%…or anything for that matter. Each statistic reflects the percentage of people who owned slaves in that particular population, not in the entire population. The statistics about the Jewish ownership of slaves relate only to the Jewish population in the US. It has nothing to do with any of the other numbers.
Now lastly, You said (oh, ok. I’ll quote you just once more) “hey Jane while your apologising for non white behaviour your white daughters are being gang raped.” Well, little rookie, it’s actually more likely that a white man will commit a sex crime than a black man. And there isn’t much daughter raping going on where I live, sorry about YOUR luck…..
I have to ask, do you really believe that being born black, or a muslim, or Chinese really means that you will be innately inferior to any who are “blessed” to be born white? Do you really believe that the black communities in America/Aboriginal communities in Australia/Native communities in Canada/African communities in Afrikaner South Africa/etc. are/were condemned to a life of poverty with no opportunity BECAUSE they were inferior? Or did they became a less able member of society based on the racist and seperatist actions taken by closed minded and uneducated white men. They therefore had to fight for their right to be educated and feed their children and use the toilet. Ok, say those statistics are correct….I doubt it, but I will humor you. So only 5% of white people in America ever had slave. I guess it doesn’t matter then that an entire race in South Africa was forced into small shanty towns without sufficient food, water or waste disposal systems and were forced to live in their own filth. Oh, South Africa is terrible isn’t it! With all those blacks running around?! Newsflash, rookie, the Afrikaners did it to themselves! You can only be the oppressor for so long, before it bites you in the butt. (See WWII and A. Hitler) Or what about the colonial era in Australia, when the black population was forced into slavery and assimilation in their own backyard? If you take the land, the most sacred thing, away from these people then what do you think will happen? They’ll put on a suit and tie and jump on the metro to their office job, marry a white woman, play golf on weekends, open a bible and pray to Christ? Ah, how innocent have been the white man. No, of course that won’t happen, so what should we do instead? Well, we should enforce abstinance! What else? Stop natural procreation and the progression of an entire population – or do your very best, anyway!
Listen, rookie, before you start preaching the innocence of the white man and condemn all other races to a life of poverty and violence, take a good long look at history. Nobody is innocent; nobody is completely at fault. Human nature is what causes crimes, not skin colour. And I don’t apologise to anyone for my behaviour or that of my predecessors. Because I don’t have to. I have never hurt anyone or made a fool of anyone, I have never judged someone based on anything except their morals, values, and personality (all of which it seems you lack). People like you (with slightly more power and probably money, but certainly intelligence) caused apartheid, racial wars, and the deaths of innocents all over the world. Wake up to yourself.
Jane you wake up to yourself.
Your the fool here,not i, everything i have stated is fact/truth.
Everything you stated is a mere politically correct,cultural marxist pissathon.
Im leaving now but will be back in an hour or so to answer your nonsense.
Stay tuned, same bat channel.
If we were a racially homogenus culture like we once was we would have no racism.
Multiculturalism is a genocide policy which breeds racism and cultural clashes.
Wake up to yourself you bloody idiot.
“Human nature is what causes crimes, not skin colour.”
No genetics does.As well as their upbringing.
…has this criminal gene been identified? & what would that be?
‘Upbringing’ certainly does, but not all black people are brought up the same way, not all white people are brought up the same way. So what is your point?
And another thing. The statistics about 75% of Jews, 35% of negros, and 0.5 or 5% of whites do not add up to 115%, or 110.5%…or anything for that matter. Each statistic reflects the percentage of people who owned slaves in that particular population, not in the entire population. The statistics about the Jewish ownership of slaves relate only to the Jewish population in the US. It has nothing to do with any of the other numbers.
(The numbers prove that jews and blacks owned the majority of lsvaes in America.)
And still waiting for the source of those statistics.
Note: Can’t Jews be whites?
now those black kids should be shot.
You’re a real hero.
Hey jane can you tell my why rich black communities commit more crimes than poor white communities?(As i will show tomorrow along with the other crime rate facts)
The same thing is happening in all white countries ken so what happens in America, Europe etc have everything to do with this issue.
Our Diggers fought for and died under the White Australia Policy ken, does that make them racist nazis who wanttokillsixmillionjews too?
You label me as a retard yet dan’t refute my postings.
So what does that make you?A complete bloody idiot ,thats what.
without wasting much time reply to a retard like dingo
can your next sad attempt at whatever you are trying to do have something to do with australia. coz all that i have seen, the 2-3 links i bothered going to briefly, its all about american shit. if u love american news so much move to fucking america and gtfo
TAB,
Iv’e seen the website about your mother that was opened up.
She tried Jenny Craig? Couldn’t hurt.
Get a grip, Racism is here and isn’t going anywhere.
It’s our country and we can Discriminate who ever we want.
Stop being Keyboard warriors and step into the real world for once instead of living in your little padded universe behind your stupid computers.
Kind Regards, Bogan.
Proudly wearing a southern cross tattoo and half an Anzac sleeve.
Wow you’ve got a small penis.
You know, even though I disagree with your website I thought that you conducted yourself in an excellent manor. But now, after reading your replies to comments that disagree with you, I find you to be nothing but rude and pathetic.
Obviously your trying the be the bigger person on your website, highlighting issues that you want to voice your opinion on, and that’s great but when you stoop to the very level that you are against it makes people lose respect for you.
Discrimination:unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice.
“Wow you’ve got a small penis.” – TAB
Yeah, real anti-discrimination, hey? Or does that only imply to every other race?
Cry me a river.
Sorry tab its not us white blokes with small penises…lmfwao.
THE DEFINITIVE PENIS SIZE SURVEY RESULTS
Surprisingly, it would appear from Figure 5, that contrary to popular myth, Black males
have shorter erect lengths than their Caucasian counterparts
http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html
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Negro Penis Size
John R. Baker
Ludwig Wolf, who made a study of the physical anthropology of the Baluba tribe,
remarks that ‘As a general rule the male organ in its relaxed state is astonishingly strongly
developed;’ but he was informed by Negresses who had cohabited with both Negrids
and Europids that, when erect, the organ is of about the same size in the two races.
Topinard had claimed that though the penis of Europeans was smaller than that of Negrids
when flaccid, it was larger than theirs when erect.
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/baker3.html
Puts an end to the big black dick liberal fantasy.
What?
Link from One Nation….*YAWN*
Using correct sources.
FAIL!!!
Klan propaganda…*YAWN*
Using correct and proper sources.
FAIL!!!
Rense conspiracy website…*YAWN*
Now the games begin – which nutzi are you?
Using correct sources.
FAIL!!!
Yet people like you would use jewpedia, oops sorry wikipedia as a great source..lol….
Still cannot refute anything so resort to obfuscation.
Which part of the looney left are you a member of?
I don’t deal in games with cheats and liars like yourself.
Jeez you’re a spamming troll aren’t you?
No just posting relevant information about black on white racism.
Informing the white readers here just who are the racists.
Like that romper stomper watching aaron poster here thinking White Aussies go around bashing non whites willy nilly when in fact whites are the target of non white gangs.
Aaron said “I wonder how the Indigeneous people felt, when the First Fleet arrived and their land got taken over quite forcefully. Hmmm, thats something to think about, for those who are whinging about other races coming over to Australia.”
Yes, that is something to think about.
Perhaps you could take a few minutes to do so, before you stupidly revealing your own contradictions.
Displacement of Aborigines bad.
Displacement of White Australians good.
Me smart. Me Know-It-All.
“I don’t think you can copyright a passing remark/comment that you make on the internet, if my knowledge of the law doesn’t fail me.”
It fails you.
Everything published is copyrighted automatically.
You are the “author”.
It doesn’t matter where you publish it or how much content you “author”, you own the “work”.
Facebook also “owns” the actual published page displays.
TAB is copying these pages without Facebook’s or the work’s author’s permission.
Josh said “Kiss your white supremacist arse goodbye.”
Ever heard of “incitement to violence”, oh enlightened one?
You have now broken the law.
TAB: “Who is putting this all together? What are their beliefs & affiliations?”
Does it matter?”
Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.
Unlike Name Removed, whose children now eat at the soup kitchen thanks to “The Anonymous Bitch”.
“Sorry, but nobody is dying, therefore there’s no genocide occurring.”
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or *in part*, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
Native-born Anglo-Celtic Australians have been reduced from about 90% of the population in the 1940s, to about 66% today and falling.
A group don’t have to be killed to be “destroyed in part”.
“There are over 4 billion Asians in the world. There are 22 million Australians. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more of them, sorry.”
“There are hundreds of millions Whites in the world. There are few hundred thousand Aborigines. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more Whites, sorry.”
Doesn’t sound so good now, eh?.
“Aboriginals now make up less than 3% of our population.”
And that was a good thing?
Because apparently the perpetual displacement of White Australians is something to celebrate.
“It has survived over 40,000 years without the need for books or computers.”
You mean they never thought to invent a written alphabet.
“Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.”
And you are?
“A Facebook subpoena should handle that one”
I think you might be the one getting a subpoena from Facebook.
Eric Mettenich said “We just have to accept that there is far more mobility in the workforce now than in the past.
And that is not going to change any time soon”
Why do we “just have to accept” anything?
We make *choices*. We can choose to do something and we can choose *not* to do it.
Nothing is inevitable.
Matt said “Although I despair – as these bogans eventually have children generation after generation will become brainwashed with their uneducated racist rhetoric”
While atheist commies have abortions.
If we had not arrived here first, yes it may have been a hostile situation, someone else would have been here and maybe the aboriganies would have been extinct.
If that were the case, and the Japanese arrived here before it was westernised, how would you feel about seeing Aboriganies pushing wheelbarrows and farming rice.
Thats not a stereotype. They do that in Japan.
What has happened has happened. Look at our coat of arms. Its a kangaroo and an emu.
So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago? Deal with the current issues. And you have to admit, its a lot better than it was 50 years ago.
I thought I would type this because you are going to say what has the coat of arms got to do with this, then proceed to call me all sorts of names because you feel like being a dick.
Those are the only two animals on this planet that cannot walk backwards, hence Australia is always moving forwards.
Quote poorey: “So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago?”
I think ppl refer to the past to help understand the present poorey – isnt that human nature? To learn from our mistakes? A lot of you on here sound just like A.Hitler and his Nazis – and seem to be proud of the comparison! (Groan away Shocky, it’s all you seem to be able to comeback with when anyone makes this comparison).
And Dingo – most Australians don’t want the likes of you here in our country! You’re an embarrassment to us all. Appropriately named, I’m hoping that you can be socially trained to integrate into our society.
Either embrace our way of life here or pissoff!
“While atheist commies have abortions.”
Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.
I was going to say how do males have abortions, then I realised that occurs every time Shonk posts one of his senseless diatribes.
Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.
Well i certainly hope you have sent an email off to north Korea to let them in on the little known fact.
Dead set, do you catch the special bus to school?
“Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.”
Because the AFP are going to come onto our blog, ask us who we are, and we refuse to answer they’ll have nowhere to go. Our anonymity protects us from users, not from authority.
As for being fired by our employers – one of us is self employed, another is retired, and the third has enough sense to realise that a company does not deserve to have its name linked to every private pursuit of its employees.
““There are hundreds of millions Whites in the world. There are few hundred thousand Aborigines. You’ll probably end up seeing a lot more Whites, sorry.”
Doesn’t sound so good now, eh?.”
Nobody is complaining about the fact that there are more whites than blacks. There is considerable outrage over the way blacks have been treated by whites over the past 200 years in Australia. There’s a difference. People who are against the ‘Asianisation’ of Australia are generally sick of seeing Asian people.
“Windshuttle is hardly a peer reviewed, scholarly reference.”
Name somebody who is better qualified than WIndshuttle?
Come on, he made liars out of your left winged historians.
His government whitewash paper confirmed it.
yet you still peddle these blatant lies.
Grasping at straws.
Strange thing is Windshuttle was actually a left winger and a favourite amongst the left winged crowd until he started telling the truth about Australian history and not just the left winged cultural marxist white guilt trip parts of history.
So name 1 person better qualified on Aboriginal history than WIndshuttle?
If you guys are athiests, why would you care about this? Athiests morals are based from religion.
As far as making a website and calling my mother fat I couldnt care less. But it seems that you can use this website to call people whatever you like, so whats the difference?
What I have found here is that you have an agenda that you want to keep, and your bigoted attitude is going to promote it no matter how many people you can abuse on the way.
You need to be re educated on manners, the way you conduct yourself on a public forum is utterly discusting. You may be promoting tolerance and stopping racism, but you are carrying on like a bogan yourself.
The more you act like a spoit kid on here, the more resentment you will get. If you are kind, people will respect you and take your point of veiw with a bit more seriousness. If you carry on like a spoilt kid in an adults body, well, I’d like to pull down your pants and smack your bum because thats how you deal with children.
I 100 percent support a muliticultural Australia. I embrace the fact that ethnics can say, Wow! How good is Australia and make there way here to start a new life in our fantastic country.
But you leave your baggage at home. I can honestly say with a majority vote from the Australian people, You are welcome here, but leave the bullshit at home.
But now that I have said that, you will tell me I am a racist because of the trouble they have been thru makes it ok to play up. I am not saying that they all do it, there is a minority giving the majority a bad wrap. We just dont want the bullshit carry on here.
By the way tab, I know you are an athiest, but Jesus really loves you.
TAB doesn’t play nice. TAB is not nice. TAB will not be nice.
TAB names and shames racists, bigots, misogynists, homophobes and other such vermin. They are certainly not nice.
If you want a polite nuanced discussion go to a Jane Austen site.
9 times i have tried to write, I have deleted every single one.
I will not be wasting my time here on your pathetic website.
I feel like eating a big mac and dumping a mc bogan on your face.
But congratulations, I am a pretty easy going guy, and you have managed to make me violent. So I will be taking it out on the dog.
I bet your dog is sick of copping your various reasons of frustration.
Should we be alerting the RSPCA???
TAB said “Yes, there will be no firing, fining or gaoling of TAB, as TAB can remain anonymous and unaccountable.”
“Because the AFP are going to come onto our blog, ask us who we are, and we refuse to answer they’ll have nowhere to go. Our anonymity protects us from users, not from authority.”
Who said anything about AFP?
I’m talking about the people who *you* attack on this blog (like me and Scott) and the Facebook people who you attack (you don’t merely copy their words, you add your own too) and copy their published “works” without their permission.
“As for being fired by our employers – one of us is self employed, another is retired, and the third has enough sense to realise that a company does not deserve to have its name linked to every private pursuit of its employees.”
Why would it, if it’s private?
Nobody’s employer has any right to monitor your private life, only your work performance.
Even If Name Removed had commited a *crime*, his employer would be legally prohibited from firing him because of it!
What of your landlord, your neighbours, your bank manager, the people at the supermarket, the pub, anyone you have frequent contact with.
What if they were told of some of the vicious comments you’ve made here?
Of course, they *can’t* be told, because you don’t identify yourselves.
Facebook comments aren’t “private”?
Just because something’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s not part of someone’s private life.
Unless you specifically go looking for those comments, you’re not going to see them.
They have nothing to do with work, and one’s employer would not know or need to know about them.
“Nobody is complaining about the fact that there are more whites than blacks. There is considerable outrage over the way blacks have been treated by whites over the past 200 years in Australia. There’s a difference.”
How do you think White Australians will be treated when *they’re* a minority?
We already get frequent abuse from some sectors of the ethnic immigrant population.
The point I made is that you wouldn’t DREAM of trivialising what happened to Aborigines. In fact, you typically exaggerate it.
Yet see no self-contradiction in flippantly dismissing the concerns of *another people* who feel threatened by a current wave of immigrants from alien cultures.
Who see their people reduced as a percentage of the population.
Who see their culture dismissed as “trash” while the culture of foreigners is “celebrated”.
Why can’t you see the *parallels* between these two displacements, rather than just their differences?
“People who are against the ‘Asianisation’ of Australia are generally sick of seeing Asian people.”
Or they’re sick of seeing Asians because it’s a *symptomatic* reflection of “Asianisation”.
Australia was never “Asian”.
Nor does it have to be.
And as I’ve shown, we receive far more Asian immigrants than even a purely *economic* analysis would warrant.
Josh said “Showing your age old boy? Haven’t been “commies” since the Berlin Wall went down.”
Showing your agism, Josh?
You don’t *call* yourself commies.
You still have the same “global totalitarian utopianism, no dissent allowed” mindset.
“I was going to say how do males have abortions”
??????????
Warning: Dumb level is now at Acute.
poorey said “If we had not arrived here first, yes it may have been a hostile situation, someone else would have been here and maybe the aboriganies would have been extinct.”
Pointless what-if.
“If that were the case, and the Japanese arrived here before it was westernised, how would you feel about seeing Aboriganies pushing wheelbarrows and farming rice.”
What the fuck are you going on about?
How would I “feel”?
I wouldn’t “feel” anything because I wouldn’t be here.
This is so irrelevant!
“What has happened has happened.”
Yes, it has.
And that is why *our* actual history, not what-ifs, matter.
“So why are people bringing up things that have happened yonks ago?”
Because there is no present without a past.
Our society and all the others wouldn’t be what they are without their histories.
Some of those histories are related and some are not.
“Deal with the current issues.”
WTF!
Pay attention. That *is* what I’m trying to do!
“And you have to admit, its a lot better than it was 50 years ago.”
And is that because, or in spite of, multicultural immigration?
True progress has been made in regard to the rights of women and gays, for example.
Yet our current immigration policies may threaten that very progress!
By bringing in hundreds of thousands of people from cultures that have *not* undergone this social development.
I totally, 100% agree with you.
I never combed thru your words at all looking for a response, this is my interpretation,
However, i killed the dog, got a black one, called it Tab, and im about to kick that one in the guts.
this site is totally awesome
its terrible to think how many racist bogan dickheads are out there.
and you are doing a great thing to highlight the insane amounts of discrimination within australian society.
yay!
Chris, stop playing the tambourine, get your head out of the fucking sand, get on your vespa fasion scooter, drive to the butcher and have some meat.
You might eventually stop being a poof.
And where I come from, poof means soft.
So fuck you.
And where I come from, poof is a derogatory word meaning ‘man who has sex with other men’. I bet your dad hated that nickname.
Yeah Chris, Toughen the fuck up you Un-Australian pig dog. I’m so frustrated reading this shit, I’m going to kick Pooreys dog Tab in the guts aswell.
Looks like we’ll be going to the pet shop again tomorrow. Maybe we’ll name this one chris.
My bet Chris is a fake name and your real name is Hajab Hallal.
‘Toughen the fuck up’? Learn yourself some maturity you dense fuckwit. Normal Australians will always view you ‘Aussie Pride’ dickheads as embarassing and appropriate to ridicule. You’re a bunch of juvenile twats.
Because i have pride in my country and what my forefathers fought for?
My bet is you’re some white collar pen pushing keyboard basher, with nothing better to do than sit on a completely retarded website like this arguing something that you know you’re not going to win.
Unfortunately for you so called ‘Anti-Racists’ you’re a Minority and not a Majority. Suck it up and go push some more pens.
Or put a blue singlet on, Hop in my Ute and come stab some pigs. Might toughen you up abit.
“…arguing something that you know you’re not going to win.”
I’d say that when people start facing consequences for their online behaviour, we are beginning to ‘win’.
“Unfortunately for you so called ‘Anti-Racists’ you’re a Minority and not a Majority.”
It’s a shame statistics disprove you on this one. Racists outnumber anti-racists? LOL
“Or put a blue singlet on, Hop in my Ute and come stab some pigs. Might toughen you up abit.”
I bet you’re a hit with the ladies.
Did our forefathers fight for this country so that you could hate entire groups of people for no logically permissible reason and pursue acts of unscrupulous and pointless violence? No. Those are actions that represent the kinds of values that our soldiers have fought against.
It doesn’t matter AT ALL whether or not people who oppose racism are a minority or not. Regardless of how vocal racists are, their racist opinions will always be shunned because we live in a society that thrives off education and the scientific method. Racist opinions are time and time again exposed as baseless, subjective bullshit by this integral component of the functioning of western society. Racism is a retardant upon the social advancement of our society in the same way that religious fanaticism retards the advancement of scientific knowledge.
Go ‘stab some pigs’ and see where that takes you. I prefer to show my appreciation for Australia by actually making a positive contribution to the society I live in.
Nice one Mr Muffins. Quit your day job and become a comedian. Seriously though…
My last reply was directed at the “AussiePride” nutjob, not the writers of this blog. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t attack me considering that I am on your side and have worked alongside you in the past to counter the racist morons like Scott who frequent this site.
AussiePride
mrmuffins2@gmail.com
121.220.100.60
-> Replying to ‘Mr Muffins’, not you Ben. Don’t worry, I know who you are!
HAHA mrmuffins… a great name for someone who likes to appear so tough.
And coon was a block of cheese.
what a pack of sad cünts.
what would be wrong with making these people into aussies?
sharing what was once a great and peaceful culture?
dogs are smarter than racists. a great dane and a poodle both still know they are dogs.
The thousands of vietnamese who made their lives a success here have a saying for you types: “we sailed here, you failed here.”
would the Lebs still hate you if you hadn’t been a prick to them in the first place?
you’re just too stupid to think past skin colour aren’t you?
it’s baffling.
some links for you to consider:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html
things racists like
may your daughters marry ragheads, may your sons slave for gooks.
Good on you Dingo!
You’re correct all the way.
More power to you!
To us!
Yes i am correct Scott,ive been debating these issues for ever and i already know what these anti white cultural marxist bigots are going to say before they tell their lies.
We have the TRUTH on our side, they do not.
Also see what type of methods these evil,hatefil anti white bigots use to denigrate us proud white folk?
Methods? You mean re-posting dopey racist comments that your lot put out into the public forum?
Dingo
You are without a doubt the most worthless sack of excreta I have ever had the misfortune to listen to.
I suppose the only upside to listening to you ramble on is that that is all it will ever amount to, the pathetic ramblings of a sick mind.
Because at the end of the day just like the majority of us Australians you are too lazy to actually do anything about your so deranged and often ill-informed prejudices
I have no doubt that you and your equally pox ridden friends believe yourselves to ” hard” men. I can see you know sitting around drinking beer fondling your cocks as you reminisce about your acts of definite bravery when you screamed taunts at foreigners from the safety of your commodore.
You are a sheep spewing forth the drivel shovelled into your head by some other twisted pathetic little fuck.
Follow follow little lamb. Spitting out the same old drivel that has been spat out by countless other fuckwits before you.
You are on an even keel with the “Hard men “ of the Broadie Boys from one of your links.
Pathetic little shitbirds with a brain the size of a sparrows knee cap.
You should both be lined up against a wall and shot with a ball of your own shit.
In parting, may you die a slow and painful death in the near future you gormless Cuntox
I bet you think sports are racist too. International everyone gets a trophy world cup because we dont want to say that we are better than them.
Boy you’re a losty.
Ben said “Did our forefathers fight for this country so that you could hate entire groups of people for no logically permissible reason”
Yes.
So we could think and speak as we please.
Whether you agree or not, whether you think it’s justifiable or not.
“and pursue acts of unscrupulous and pointless violence?”
Now, as usual, you *equate* words and actions, as if they’re the same thing.
Violence has always been illegal.
No need for “hate crime” laws.
No need to criminalise speech itself.
Assault, crime.
Vandalism, crime.
Murder, crime.
Always was. Nothing new there.
Words are not “violence”.
Nobody ever ended up in the emergency department because they read an offensive comment on Facebook.
“Emergency. We have a Code 7 Facebook Event! Emergency!!”
“we live in a society that thrives off education and the scientific method.”
Then take a class in the history of languages, anthropology or comparative religion, and tell me “we’re all the same”.
It’s your utopian dreamer opinions that aren’t based on real knowledge.
“Racist opinions are time and time again exposed as baseless, subjective bullshit”
And people can’t have baseless, subjective *opinions* (not behaviour, opinions)?
Why the hell not?
Is there any “scientific reason” to prefer chocolate to strawberry icecream?
Is one preference wrong and the other right?
Is one true and the other false?
Does a distaste for icecream altogether make you an “extremist”?
Elysse said “I think ppl refer to the past to help understand the present. To learn from our mistakes?”
And you’d think we’d have learnt the lesson “mixing different peoples together bad mojo” by now.
“A lot of you on here sound just like A.Hitler and his Nazis”
Yes, you guys.
Bogans are poison mushrooms that must be eradicated to save our society!
“Groan away Shocky, it’s all you seem to be able to comeback with when anyone makes this comparison”
You’re the ones who think they can make a perfect society by silencing all dissent.
“Either embrace our way of life here or pissoff!”
Now where have I heard that before?
“So if a pedophile and his pedophile posse were to get rumbled with their misadventures because they ‘forgot’ to keep their privacy settings on maximum then that’s ok”
Rumbled? No, that would be a criminal offense.
“but not if ppl are bagging the disadvantaged, different ethnic and religious groups, gender or making jest of flood victims then it’s justified?”
justified?
Speech has to be “justified” now?
People should be able to “bag” anything they feel like.
Words are not actions.
And jokes are not serious.
“Breaking the law is breaking the law. Education not legislation, honey.”
You’re the ones arguing for legislation, not us.
chubbybloodfart said
“what would be wrong with making these people into aussies?
sharing what was once a great and peaceful culture?”
Haven’t you heard, we don’t HAVE a culture.
And assimilation is a big bad no-no now.
Slap that wrist!
“dogs are smarter than racists. a great dane and a poodle both still know they are dogs.”
And I’m sure they also know they’re not the same.
They can tell by barks, appearances, odours that all dogs are not the same.
Dogs are smarter then *you*.
“we sailed here, you failed here.”
How enlightened and sophisticated.
We must have more of these arrogant parasites.
“would the Lebs still hate you if you hadn’t been a prick to them in the first place?”
Yes.
“you’re just too stupid to think past skin colour aren’t you?
it’s baffling.”
No, what’s baffling is that YOU can’t think past skin colour.
You think “White” means “amount of melanin”.
Rather than the historical ethnic continuum of certain peoples (and not others).
“Chimps, Humans 96 Percent the Same”
Oooh, so we’re going to equal rights and non-discrimination for chimps now?
Voting rights? Welfare payments? University quotas?
You’d probably find we share much with all mammals.
So fucking what.
Humans do not live as a “species”.
They probably never have.
Humans started wandering off in different directions almost as soon as the species appeared.
And have been developing different genetic and memetic realities ever since.
Species Smecies.
I stumbled across your site via a link in a political blog.
I think what you are trying to accomplish is quite noble, but a couple of things puzzle me. I hope you take constructive crticism well.
Firstly , when i clicked on “about us”, I was unimpressed. It reads;
” No information available.
Now scamper back to the juvenile avenues of Facebook, or Twitter, or MySpace, or wherever you found out about us”.
The last thing a potential new supporter needs is to be patronised when entering your site. So, perhaps a slightly more polite angle is needed in your “about us” section.
And the “no information bit”? Just a small writeup would do – what inspired you to do this, how long you’ve been doing it, you know, people like reading that sort of stuff.
Secondly, to call all bogans racists is similar to calling all muslims terrorists. It’s bordering on hypocritical. A paradox. Don’t tell me 2 wrongs make a right, because they don’t.
– Bogan word meaning; ” an individual who is recognised to be from a lower class background or someone whose limited education, speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplifies such a background”.
Some of the most dangerous racists I have seen are from an upper class background and highly educated (eg- Q &A last week). Perhaps one day, when you are wiser and more educated, you will start a website that can attack those who hold the puppet strings, and not just the puppets you have highlighted, who by the way are a very easy target.
Fighting racism is noble. But being the one responsible for changing the meaning of a word is subliminally egotistical.
So, don’t tar all with the same brush, as those you wish to highlight do. “Anti racist” sounds way better than “anti bogan” anyway, and I reckon you’ll get more “hits”.
Apart from that, keep up the good work.
Harry.
Thanks for the comments. We’ll put something up in the About Us section soon.
Re: all bogans are racist. No. We initially tried to state that the definition of a bogan had progressed from being merely someone of a lower class to someone from any class that exhibited embarrassing behaviour that involved racism, sexism or another form of discrimination. We tried stating a modern day definition but it wasn’t swallowed. So now we simply call ourselves ‘anti-racism|anti-sexism|anti-discrimination’. If we could change the ‘antibogan’ part we would but we can’t.
Wow this site makes me so sad. People are just so crazy and ignorant, believing that because they are white and born here means that they are somehow better than everyone else. Yet if they ever needed to flee Australia I bet they would expect other countries to take care of them.
How many of “TAB”s posts run along the lines of I dont care, I dont give a shit, who cares etc. and then he/she follows up with some in depth comments. TAB is a piece of shit, who hides behind a computer.
Aren’t you hiding behind a computer?
fuckwit = TAB
*yawn*
Well done “Shocked” for being a hypocritical douche that then resorts to juvenile retorts when this is brought to your attention.
You win today’s award for IDIOT OF THE DAY.
To the people who run this website,
Really like what you’re doing. It’s simple and effective. Glad to know there are people like you around.
FYI – Nicholas Folkes, Australian Protectionist Party is running in the seat of Balmain under “Independent” in the upcoming NSW election. Voters should know who they are really voting for. There are also a handful of One Nation “Independents”. http://knowyourcandidatesnsw2011.wordpress.com/
I’m a massive douche.
Having stumbled onto this site, I have to say you guys are doing some great work, brilliant!
This site in some ways restores my faith in society. That people will actually say that ‘no this is wrong and here it is for all the world to see as you have displayed it’ but that being said, I can’t help but want to bash my skull against the wall for some of the narrow-minded responses that I’ve seen on this site. I personally believe that everyone regardless of race, age, sex, creed or whatever should be given the benefit of the doubt and believe in keeping a completely open mind. I’ve come to the conclusion that if I want to not give myself a concussion, I will have to refrain from reading the comments.
That being said though, there is one question that I have. Who agrees with me on the ‘give myself a concussion’ statement?
or to be a little more clear, who agrees that the comments are taking away from what this site is trying to achieve?
Sometimes they might, but not always. You need to understand the sheer volume of morons that come here and bombard our email inbox, trying to defend the discrimination we expose.
Sometimes they are but it’s hard to stay civil in the face of such blatant racism, xenophobia and intolerance and people trying to defend the indefensible by saying it was “just a joke” taken out of context. Racism and bigotry are never funny.
It’s even harder to read page after page of white supremecist crap from the likes of Snott, it’s depressing to think that there are so many people out there who think like him so I can understand why people sometimes resort to lame insults.
I guess the chaser had the right idea back in ’07. If the media is (blatantly loosely used term) supposed to reflect the society it is a part of then perhaps people need to be snapped back to what they are being fed. Was watching some older episodes of the Chaser’s War on Everything this evening and it came up to be about spot on with what this site is promoting when they were having a dig at Today Tonight and ACA on the issues of Ethnicity.
http://idents.tv/blog/2006/08/05/this-week-in-current-affairs-shows-part-15/ is the direct link to another blog that has the video imbedded.
It’s sad in a way that you’re two groups of people both trying to create an informing idea of what’s going on but doing it in very different ways. The chaser being a satirical look at what the heck people are being fed by mass media and you guys a naming and shaming website for attacks on ethnicity. Somehow I think this will sneak a way into an essay at uni at some point or another.
Thank you for the work that you do. If any of you do not mind, I’d like to pass on a couple of links to some to some interesting advertisements focusing on racial colour blindness and family values from my country.
I have lived with racial discrimination all my life, so it is heartening to know that there are some out there who don’t mind me despite the colour of my skin, the culture I come from, and my accented English.
Please post in your contact section where one should send legal notices/writs.
Thanks
(I’m serious, and no “email us” won’t cut it)
gofuckyourself@dickhead.com
Oh that’s too bad, will just have to send to WordPress who will add their Attorney’s fees and on-forward to you (Read the WP T&Cs)
Look forward to seeing you face to face in due course.
Is there a specific gripe, Glen? Have you featured? Have you made discriminating public comments and would like your name/photo removed? Or have you nothing better to do? You do realise that this blog has been forwarded to authorities already, right? Feel free to contact officers at Carrara, Revesby, Redfern and Townsville Police Stations. Mention the blog. They’ve seen it.
If you want to get serious and discuss issues, go ahead. If you’re here on a threat rampage, your enthusiasm is wasted.
And “Glenstar”, TAB is well and truly lawyered up and they’d like nothing better than to rip racists and their apologists to shreds in public court. Pro bono
However since you’re a troll with a fake e mail then they won’t have the pleasure.
Melbourne must be dull today.
Gotta love how virtually all critics say “Anti-racists are a minority, not a majority in Australia” “Australians don’t want immigration, etc” over and over again.
Yet…..no rally has had more racists than anti-racists.
No political party running on a “No immigration” or “White only migration” agenda has ever even reached 10% of the public.
So….on what basis do they say the majority of Australians are racist, or don’t want immigration?
JM, I believe the official line is that anti-racists are all dole bludging professional protestors. Therefore rally numbers are really further evidence that all real working aussies are actually pro-racist.
Josh, Tab
I’d dearly love to take you to task, however I’m advised not to.
Writs will be issued shortly in the Federal Court of Australia and delivered upon WordPress as representatives of your blog since you’ve seen fit not publish a means by which they can be delivered upon you locally.
This process takes time, but it seems you’d know that.
As noted, looking forward to seeing you face to face in due course.
You won’t because you are a fake.
I just thought I’d tidy up your grammar, Glenstar. Also, you cannot commence legal proceedings on behalf of another person without that person’s permission and statements to police. And as such, there are no outstanding requests for removal of posts.
Also, we have not used copyrighted images on our website. We have screenshotted comments, which has the same effect as quoting a person.
Feel free to email us at theantibogan@gmail.com and let us know if there are posts you want removed. We can also provide you with an address to send your junk mail to.
Dear Glenstar,
Please forward all legal documents to me. Yes, I’m a lawyer.
Mat Henderson
fightdemback@gmail.com
No legal docs have been received. You’re full of shite.
Mat
“A Lawyer” or the appointed lawyer taking instructions for the people publishing this site? If the latter then please supply your DX Number.
If you’re just “A Lawyer” then don’t waste people’s time by needlessly chiming in.
By the way I am NOT a lawyer, I have retained one and he is acting on my instructions.
And since you have so far supplied two fake e mail adresses I would say you were about as genuine as the proverbial two-bob watch.
Jeez Glenstar, your ‘madskillz’ are wearing a bit thin now. We’ve obliged to your requests and you will notice that the post in question (the one that you couldn’t bring yourself to specify here) now has ALL names and photos removed, including your own. So what are you still doing here? And how is it that an amateur warm-up act like yourself has enough money to hire lawyers to defend minors that you have on your Facebook friends list? Why do you even have minors on your Facebook friends list??? You’re 43 right???
The post you’re concerned about has been wiped clean of any names or photos, and the person you’re so bravely defending still has an open photo gallery on Facebook. How about you stop for a minute and consider a few things:
1. Your underage ‘friend’ made public comments denouncing immigrants and labeling Muslims as ‘shit’. (Breaching RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 – SECT 18C)
2. Your underage ‘friend’ then continued to make public comments complaining about how she had been labeled a ‘racist’, and you replied with ‘fuck them’.
3. Your underage ‘friend’ contacted us and said that because she was under 18, we weren’t allowed to quote what she had written on a public social networking site – but we nonetheless obliged by blacking out her name and photo, and the names and photos of all other people who appeared on the post.
4. The screenshots regarding your underage ‘friend’ were provided by another user – someone who saw your friend’s public comments and was completely offended by them. We never engaged in any stalking or adding of your friend on Facebook to view their private material.
5.
6. If you have any further issues regarding the post in question breaching anybody’s privacy, please contact us at theantibogan@gmail.com .
7. At this stage you and your underage friend are to be reminded of a very simple thing: that if you post offensive racist material on the Internet to a worldwide audience without considering that there are innocent people you are hurting in the process, you are accepting the criticism that comes with it. Nobody has the right to criticise what you do in private. That’s why magazines that pry into celebrities’ private lives are considered to be trash. But when Shane Warne publicly cheats on his wife via Twitter, then he will be hung out to dry for it.
If you have any more concerns, don’t hesitate to contact us at theantibogan@gmail.com.
Bye for now, DJ Spock.
All ready to send nasties through the DX are you now?
What’s your lawyer’s name, firm and DX so we can establish if you are anything more than a troll.
I’m with Darp on this. Glenstar you are full of shite.
“…because she was under 18, we weren’t allowed to quote what she had written on a public social networking site ”
That is actually untrue. Minors can be charged with breaches of the various anti-discrimination acts and aggrieved plaintiffs can lodge complaints with AHRC over racist and bigoted comments made by minors. In many cases involving minors school principals have been informed and have taken appropriate action.
But I wouldn’t advise Glenstar to tell her that, because if he has been in any sort of private communication with the supposed minor he has potentially breached the Victorian child protection legislation. That’s not going to be a good look for a future career in the music business.
I have no clue what tangent you people have gone off to… seriously.
My beef is with a post specifically to do with me. IRL my name isn’t anything similar to my handle here. I’m not pressing a case on behalf of a third party.
Josh, Tab, others. You’ll find out everything you need to know when documents are served upon you. Until then, I don’t know, take a chill pill or something.
Until then good day.
Your IP address and username are not helpful to your cause of denial…
I’d have preferred to send this email directly but, in the absence of a direct contact point, I’ll post it here.
Let me preface by stating I’m a supporter of this site.
That sais, I’m disappointed by TAB commentary regarding the Villawood detention centre fires.
‘ “…violence doesn’t get anyone anywhere..” ‘ ?
I expected more.
I’ve volunteered within the centre. I can tell you, these people aren’t doing this for recreational purposes. These actions aren’t whimsical.
As you’ve mentioned further into the post, these people have come from traumatic circumstances. Some have witnessed their mothers and sisters being raped, tortured and finally killed. Others are unaccustomed to sleep because of the sound of artillery is what’s ‘normal’.
I invite the every reader to consider this.
What if your mother was beaten with a metal bar? Her nose, arm and probably her collarbone is broken. She’s covered in blood. She’s crying and screaming. And you can’t do a thing to help because you’re being held back by three ‘soldiers.’
She is then raped, kicked and spat on.
Finally (and gratefully), she’s shot point-blank in the temple.
The refugees are exercising their international rights by seeking asylum in Australia. No laws are being broken. None are ‘illegal’.
Australia’s asylum seeker policy is shameful. AUSTRALIA’S ASYLUM SEEKER POLICY BREAKS INTERNATIONAL LAW.
“‘ “…violence doesn’t get anyone anywhere..” ‘ ?
I expected more.”
It’s true. What hope do the tile-throwers (that allegedly threw the tiles in response to the fire brigade pointing their hoses at them) and the fire-starters have of gaining residency now?
The entire article focuses on the fact that these people aren’t illegal, and have come from violent places having experienced and witnessed atrocities. They of all people should know that violence gets people nowhere.
I personally would support them sitting on the roof with the bedsheeted message ‘we need help’, and I am completely against mandatory detention and especially the duration of it.
“The refugees are exercising their international rights by seeking asylum in Australia. No laws are being broken. None are ‘illegal’. ”
Absolutely correct. But setting fires and vandalising buildings does break laws. I completely understand what has pushed these people to this point, and it’s important that this story is taken with a grain of understanding and empathy. But I will reiterate: Violence and destruction gets you nowhere.
Note: our email address theantibogan@gmail.com is plastered all over our website…
Why do the posts on this blog invariably deteriorate into name calling? Does being grammatically correct, make ones point more, or less relevant. Are you so precious that you can’t deal with a little criticism, or do you think that your cause is above question?
I don’t think that if people want to disagree with your point of view, it makes them “racism apologists”. I would of thought that people of your obvious intelligence could mount a slightly more persuasive argument than calling people bogans, or suggesting that people should “go fuck themselves” if they don’t agree with your method of combating racism. Maybe you should take some of this on board, and actually do something about racism, not just slander people for stupid facebook status’. I’m sure there are people out there actively combating this problem that you could lend a hand to.
I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work? In my opinion good intentions are being ruined by poor method.
1.You cannot debate these people.They are arguing from a poor knowledge base consisting of the rants of shock jocks, inflammatory rubbish from the gutter press, dodgy Internet sites and rumours and through the flter of emotion and prejudice rather than facts and evidence.
2. The implication is that there is a “debate” to be had. Actually there isn’t. You are either a xenophobe or you are not. If you don’t bellow your xenophobia loud and proud on public websites, then TAB doesn’t know you are, and neither does your boss.
3. TAB is not responsible for anyone losing their job. Employers sack people. Employers also do not like the reputation of their workplace being dragged through the mud. So racists and homophobes among others like the ADF clowns who put up a Facebook page are liable to be sacked.
From the point of view of a customer or client would you want to deal with this type of person?
And yes there are racist apologists. There have always been racist apologists. TAB does not like them, nor do we,
Lets not be so black and white about this. “You’re either a xenophobe or you’re not” “you can’t debate these people”. Discussion would be a better word.
Misinformation is rampant in todays world. Discerning truth is becoming ever more challenging. People who have been gifted brains should be lending a hand where they can, not distancing themselves. Why put yourselves on a pedestal? You’ve put a huge amount of effort into doing some good, but seem to not care that your damaging your image, and alienating would be allies. You have a chance to create a massive following of enlightened people, who together could make a difference.
All I’m saying is start being more inclusive and you’ll find the job you’ve taken on getting easier, not harder.
Anthony, who gives a fuck if we resort to name calling? There is no unwritten law that states that those supporting or perpetuating discrimination are the only ones allowed to fight dirty. The fuckheads aren’t worth the courtesy. They stalk families, they make threats, they call names and they start fights. They send propaganda emails and start up bullshit social media groups and fan pages and we’re supposed to stick to the moral high ground by merely watching our language? Fuck them. The moral high ground belongs to anyone who opposes discrimination – name-callers or not.
“I don’t think that if people want to disagree with your point of view, it makes them “racism apologists”.
In every instance of someone being called a ‘racism apologist’, the context has verified it. If someone is willing to stick up for someone’s right to ‘free speech’, regardless of whether or not it is hate speech, then they have ignored the issue of discrimination and are accepting it under the false pretense that it is completely justifiable and legal in Australia to discriminate.
“I would of thought that people of your obvious intelligence could mount a slightly more persuasive argument than calling people bogans, or suggesting that people should “go fuck themselves” if they don’t agree with your method of combating racism.”
Did you mean ‘I would have…’? Grammar fail. It happens to the best of us, Anthony. Don’t sweat it. Our arguments are solid enough. We oppose discrimination. Calling people on their stupidity, lack of intelligence, ignorance or hopeless grasp on the language they pretend to argue for is completely justified. Such ‘argument’s don’t replace the original argument of opposing discrimination and highlighting it when it occurs, they add to it. Telling people to go fuck themselves doesn’t breach any anti-discrimination legislation in Australia, and we will continue to do so if pushed.
“Maybe you should take some of this on board, and actually do something about racism, not just slander people for stupid facebook status’.”
Did you mean ‘statuses’? Ah another grammar fail. Oh well. Perhaps you should take this reply on board, and realise that beyond this forum, many of the people posting and commenting here are doing positive things in the fight against racism. This is a stand-alone blog. It does not cancel out any other work done outside of the blog.
“I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work? In my opinion good intentions are being ruined by poor method.”
I’m sorry, did you hear that the Skaf brothers were jailed on rape charges? Were their family members rapists? Did they deserve for them to be out of work? Fuck that Anthony, your logic is dense. If a person does the wrong thing, they face the consequences. One of the thought processes that needs to cross a person’s mind as they commit a crime, or do something that will place their employment in jeopardy, is the possible affect it will have on the people around them. That person who was fired was fired because of the comments he made about his workplace and the people he worked for – NOT because of his racist/sexist/discriminatory comments that were featured here. Get your facts right, and get your head in the game. Or fuck off.
I’m sure you don’t feel the need to prove anything, but how about an example of how you actively combat racism. You’ve mentioned it a couple of times without going into detail.
Don’t know what the Skaf brothers have to do with anything. Except as an example of dense logic. Or a pathetic attempt to bait me into making a racist comment. Fail on both counts.
I don’t really care at all if you want to lower yourself by name calling and swearing and carrying on. I just find it hard to imagine that you couldn’t craft anything more eloquent with your enormous intellect. Just friendly advice, like telling someone that they’ve shit themselves and it stinks.
I’m guessing that the hard line, no grey area stance you’ve taken is done purposefully just to raise awareness of the problem. Doesn’t really matter if a couple of innocent people may be humiliated on the way. At least someone is courageously trawling the web exposing racist words that people stupidly post on some social networking site.
Acts of racism are disgusting. I agree. I guess I just don’t get how a stupid racist joke or comment does any damage.
Providing examples of our other endeavours would place the reputations of such companies/organisations under unnecessary scrutiny. Such examples may also give clues as to who we are.
The Skaf example was entirely relevant. You noted that a man had lost his job after he made disgusting comments about his workplace, his workmates and people from other countries and religions on the Internet. You asked why the family had to be affected by their father’s actions, seeing as though they weren’t racist, nor were they the type of people who ranted and raved about their employers in a public forum. So here’s the point, one more time:
It’s not a fail. Murderers’ families have to deal with daddy being locked up. Rapists’ families have to deal with no more income from daddy. Matty Johns was fired from Channel 9. His wife was severely affected by his actions. She was publicly embarrassed by his actions. It’s the same thing. You consider your family before you do things that will directly or indirectly affect them. And Jason D would have been fired whether this website existed or not because his comments featured on a website, http://www.pwsnt.com, before ours, and his wall was public. The reader who contacted his workplace had seen his comments on http://www.pwsnt.com first and shared them with us via email.
“I don’t really care at all if you want to lower yourself by name calling and swearing and carrying on. I just find it hard to imagine that you couldn’t craft anything more eloquent with your enormous intellect.”
Perhaps you think that swearing and carrying on detracts from our main goal. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But one of the things we want to do with this blog is to make these people notice us. We want them to engage with us. We want them to see how stupid their comments look when highlighted in a different forum. We want people to think, ‘hmmm maybe my comments might end up at theantibogan’ before posting discriminatory comments, and decide not to do it. We want to be noticed. The one thing we will not do if they show up at our blog is ‘debate’, and we will not be ‘nice’ about it. As has been mentioned before – this site won’t stop anyone from being racist – but it will make them think twice about what they say in the public forum. Swearing or not won’t make a lick of difference – if anything, it makes us more noticeable to the knuckle-dragging neanderthals.
“Doesn’t really matter if a couple of innocent people may be humiliated on the way.”
Please, go through this entire website and find someone who isn’t guilty of saying the things they have quite obviously said.
“I guess I just don’t get how a stupid racist joke or comment does any damage.”
Are you a white male? There’s obviously less chance of you empathising seeing as though you are in a position of ethnic and cultural dominance in this country. But go to a foreign country where you’re the minority, slap a couple of negative stereotypes onto you – maybe you’re a bad driver who stinks like shit and sucks up social security on your way to being a terrorist, and then let’s see you get through day to day life, collecting every snide comment and remark along the way and then let’s see if you’re not affected when you hear a joke about your culture, about your people.
Please, don’t try and compare rape and murder – the two most abhorrent ACTS on earth – with racial slurs. While it’s a good indication of how strongly you feel about the issue, they are not in the same league of offence. This tactic belongs on radio with simple shock jocks.
I didn’t expect you to provide any insight to what you get up to outside of the blog. I wasn’t asking for an in depth rundown of your activities, just the broad strokes would have satisfied me.
What I meant by innocent was: a person who has made a tasteless comment, who is otherwise a decent human being. There are a lot of reasons out there why people have a problem with those around them. Black, white or otherwise. They don’t all deserve to be shamed, but some do. Hence, there is some collateral damage.
I am indeed a white Australian male. I deeply empathise with all people. In fact it is a strength of mine. I feel strongly about people being denied advantage due to race, colour or creed. I also take every opportunity to inform people when they make uninformed remarks. I just don’t get how undirected facebook stati can upset people. I liken it to drug dogs at a festival, sure you catch a few people with a few pills. Wouldn’t the time and effort be better spent catching the people who distribute drugs an a large scale?
I have a question. Where do the Irish stand in your list of oppressed people?
I’ll leave with a joke: What’s the difference between a tub of yoghurt and Australia?
If you left yoghurt in the sun for 200 years it would develop some culture.
Love it….
“Please, don’t try and compare rape and murder – the two most abhorrent ACTS on earth – with racial slurs.”
I wasn’t comparing the severity of the crime, I was comparing things that can have you fired. If you’re considering making racial slurs in a public forum, and you don’t mind if your boss hears it/reads it, then you’re making a decision that could potentially have the consequences of termination. You will note that racial discrimination is illegal in this country.
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/02/25/Fireman_Loses_Job_After_Anti-Gay_Facebook_Slurs/
http://www.prestoncitizen.co.uk/news/preston/4880941.Lancashire_man_loses_appeal_against_online_racial_hatred_conviction/
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=90894
http://www.wanadoo.mu/kinews/afp/people/158495/us-shock-talk-show-host-loses-jobs-over-racial-slur.html
http://www.wyff4.com/r/4973265/detail.html
There’s certainly precedence for what happened to Jason D – he only has himself to blame.
“What I meant by innocent was: a person who has made a tasteless comment, who is otherwise a decent human being.”
95% of the comments exposed on this site appear to have been made by complete cunts. 5% may be open to contextual debate. We offer people the right to have their names/photos blacked out in any case.
“I just don’t get how undirected facebook stati can upset people.”
When they reach a much broader audience than intended, and when such comments are posted into fan pages and Facebook groups, then they have the potential to cause harm. I think the very fact that so many people have been affected by various forms of racial discrimination over years and years indicates just how much discrimination can actually hurt people.
“I liken it to drug dogs at a festival, sure you catch a few people with a few pills. Wouldn’t the time and effort be better spent catching the people who distribute drugs an a large scale?”
A great point. One I completely agree with. But what this site aims to achieve is that second-thought about whether or not people should make public their hatred. If this site starts to become part of the social landscape – in such a way that people are considering what they say in public for fear of ending up here, then it will address the larger problem of public discrimination. With a severe cutback of public discrimination, people will find it less appropriate to justify their own discrimination because there are fewer examples of comments by people who feel the same way, readily accessible via social media. It is at that point that people who aim to educate on matters such as discrimination are able to gain more of a foothold.
“Where do the Irish stand in your list of oppressed people?”
What does that have to do with the price of fish in Atlanta?
“I’ll leave with a joke: What’s the difference between a tub of yoghurt and Australia?
If you left yoghurt in the sun for 200 years it would develop some culture.”
A good joke, agreed: https://theantibogan.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/screen-shot-2011-04-20-at-11-45-34-am.png
Each of the links you posted deals with a person who is an employee of the state, one is a commentator. They all got dealt with. Fair enough.
I have stated my position on this subject in response to Caroline’s post.
I am trying to separate the distinction between a racial comment and discrimination. One, to me is a slur – hateful, ignorant or misdirected words directed at a group of people, or an individual within that group. The other is denying a person an opportunity, be that employment, inclusion, or access to a service or premise based on that individual being a part of a group. I concede that not everyone will share this opinion, but are acts of discrimination not more serious than mere words?
My question on the Irish is completely off topic and quite irrelevant to our discussion. It is a personal interest to me. I have had quite a bit to do with Irish folk, and find their situation to be quite unique among oppressed people. I was merely seeking your point of view. Being that cases of discrimination and oppression are a passion of yours.
Nice pic…
It’s telling that even when a foreigner is having a dig at Aussies, that the aboriginals are left out. Any opinions out there of what Aussie culture is?
“I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work?”
By that logic no-one with a family should ever be fired. The child of an alcoholic whose drinking results in them being fired doesn’t deserve to have a parent out of work either, nor does the child of someone who is fired for sexually harassing a workmate. How is this case any different?
The person in question made homophobic remarks about a workmate on a public facebook page, as well as making many violently racist and sexist comments. Their employer was informed of this and chose to undertake and internal investigation into discriminatory behaviour in the company. The investigation resulted in the firing of two employees (one being the person in question) and a third was given the option to resign. No-one deserves to work in a workplace where they are discriminated against on the basis of their sexuality, they have a right to work in a safe, respectful environment and if certain employees are destroying the environment than their employer has every right to fire them.
So anyone with a family can say whatever they want and they should not get fired because they have children? Is that what you are saying?
Was that question at me? I was dissagreeing with Anthony who said “I also understand that someone has been fired from their job as a result of your campaign. One question, are that persons family also racist? Do they deserve for him to be out of work?”
I think thev person who was fired deserved what they got and I would be more worried about the impact their bigotted attitude would have on their family than the fact that they were fired.
Yeah I was just confirming whether or not I misread what you posted 🙂
You make a fair point. The workplace should be safe to work in, free from harassment and bullying.
TAB was correct in saying that consequences need to be considered before you do something. The point I was trying – poorly – to make was that care should be taken when informing any authority about alleged bigotry. I was asking questions related to that incident to highlight that punishing one person may involve punishing several other, innocent parties.
After reading all the above, i tend to agree with you Anthony. That being that the intentions of this website and the founders are very noble and i applaud their effort to expose racism in our society. However I don’t think that the swearing and abuse does anything to help to enlighten the racists and show them that racism in our society is unacceptable. It only brings intelligent discourse down to their level!
On the flip side, it’s a good laugh though!
Just had a quick flick through the site and I think the concept is great but as expected, there seems to be so much hate oozing out from everywhere- hate coming from “racists” and hate coming from anti-racists. Reading some the posts is making me feel sad about the extreme ignorance and closed mindedness of some people in this country…
The simple solution for those people who are featured, named and shamed on the blog is for them to stop being racist (or bigoted or sexist or homophobic).
None of these attributes are anything to be proud of. None will garner respect or regard for them in the wider community. No one will be lauded for their xenophobia or praised for their hatred.
It takes more energy to make a complete knob of yourself, possibly for all time, by public hating on a public forum than it does to simply walk away from hating a group of people simply because they are different from you.
http://www.petermadden.com.au/media-releases/217-islamic-lies-and-blasphemy.html
We certainly get the reason for the surname…MADden.
Is he a comedian?
Yo TAB, you might like to feature this vid
Excellent. Love it. Will do.
There’s a nice group of inbred fucksticks starting up called “The awkward moment , when a indian doesn’t stink”. I highly recommend getting on there and spamming these racist arseholes.
Seems to have gone?
lol It was taken down within 10 minutes. Fastest I’ve ever seen FB move!
hahaha, this is so funny i almost puked. you people are whats wrong with australia, not the “bogans”. any idea what a bogan is anyway? try looking it up, it has little to nothing to do with racism. also, is it racist to call a middle eastern person a wog, but an aussie person a bogan isnt? kinda double standard dont you think? as for ur memebers, it dont matter what any of you are, white or anyshit, ur all 1 thing in common. fucked in the head. you people deserve a bullet to the skull, or better yet, a kick to the groin. harden the fuck up you low life hippy cunts, the world isnt fair. gets used to it.
Ah yes, someone who solves their insecurities with threats of violence. You’re what’s wrong with Australia, but you’ll never have the juice upstairs to realise it.
Not all Australians are bogans, Luke. That’s why it’s not racist. But just for you, I looked it up:
BOGAN (pronunciation boe-gn) is a term used primarily in Australia to describe a particular section of the working class demographic. This derogatory slang word is a gender-neutral noun; this being important as many bogans tend to gravitate towards one another, forming relationships and extended families. A bogan typically resides in either a low-cost housing estate, government housing or in the outlying regional areas of continental Australia.
Generally the bogan fits a particular stereotypical image. The perception of what actually constitutes a bogan has been shaped over the years primarily by the media; notable especially are television programs such as Channel 7’s Today Tonight and Channel 9’s A Current Affair. These programs regularly feature stories of harrowing boganism – including communities under siege from bogan terrorism, and bogans “rorting the system” in relation to welfare benefits and questionable practices.
So now we have a basic understanding of the bogan, we may delve further into the mysterious world of mullets and long-kneck beer bottles in brown paper bags. Traits of the bogan can be summarised by the following points:
• A pronounced lack of dress sense in social situations. Typical bogan attire consists of a flannelette shirt, King Gee stubbie shorts (either blue/khaki), torn or soiled jeans from the 1980’s or earlier, and of course double-plug standard issue white thong sandals with black rubber.
• A lack of personal hygiene. A bogan will often allow his/her hair to grow into an attractive style named the “mullet” as popularised in the 1980’s.
• Distinct vocabulary. The bogan language is somewhat foreign to most English-speaking people.
• A particular choice in motor vehicle. The bogan usually drives one of two makes of vehicle. Typically this is either a Holden or a Ford .
• Choice in music. The bogan prefers either metal or pub rock.
• Employment status. The common bogan is either a) not employed or b) a tradesman/labourer.
• A poorly-maintained house or unit. As previously mentioned, the bogan often resides in regions of a lower socio-economic standing.
christ cass you have too much time on your fat little hands if you go to these lengths to try and make me feel stupid. shame it didnt work. i consider myself a bogan, but you seem to think all bogans are racist. i dare you to find anything about me thats racist (based on your fucked up beliefs that is). oh, and fyi, EVERYONE ON EARTH IS RACIST IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM. everyone has their prefrences. i prefer my company to yours. get it in your thick skull that you people are the scum of the earth and all this attempted naming and shaming will come back to bite your fat liberal ass
“i (sic) dare you to find anything about me thats (sic) racist…”
“EVERYONE ON EARTH IS RACIST…”
Nice fuck up there mate. And what were you saying about Chinese people the other day? Fail.
read the whole comment you dipshit. i said im not racist according to your standards. i am racist however because everyone is racist on earth. we all have our preferences. read the whole one before commenting you liberal wanker
I don’t find cut and paste very time consuming, Luke. I’m sorry you do.
yeah, but the fact that you people troll these site looking for racists tells me that you have very little in the way of a life. get out more, youll see that this kinda thing is far more wide spread than you think. take it this way, you have 800 fans, BTBIA has about 10k.
your saying your an “anti discrimination site” but your clearly discriminating individuals about there believes. i believe that burqa’s should be banned in public! and that if you don’t like the Australian way of life you should leave. and 95% of Australia think the same!
Did you know that 37% of all statistics are made up?
http://www.facebook.com/nowie88
I thought it was 85%?
made up or not everyone has a right to an opinion, your discriminating others on there opinion. I think putting up where people work and putting up photos of what these people look like is wrong, and i would like you to take the link to my facebook off right away. thanks. Shouldn’t call yourself an anti discrimination site, thats a lie!
They have a right to have an opinion, you’re right. (Although I’m not aware of “Freedom of Thought” legislation, we can probably take it as a given.)
They don’t have the right to attack or vilify a race in public and expect that their comments will then somehow be considered private. How is this website posting publicly available information – words from their own mouths – discriminating against them?
yes they are openly saying there thoughts, but your hinting at people to try and get these people fired from there job. That where i think your gone to far!
oh and.
“But you know you’re a bogan trash whore when you’re dating a guy who puts ‘Aussiepride’ as his Facebook profile name and you’re pulling the dreaded fish pout in all of your profile pictures”
so you don’t see any mabye bulling harassment in this statement
discriminating her boyfriend in his profile pictures. calling her a whore…
or
Owen Leslie Wills, you epic failure of a human
Guess what ben,employers fire people,TAB does not.
Employers do not want their cutomers deserting them because some immature knob from their business has engaged in public vlification and brought the name of the business into disrepute. Because that’s the effect that public vilficaton has .It trashes the reputations of decent businesses. No one wants to be associated with the mindless ugliness of racism and bigotry.
The people you’re defending discriminated against an entire class of people based on the colour of their skin, Ben. TAB singled them out – not whites or Christians or whatever, but THEM – because of their disgusting public behaviour.
I guess you could say that TAB is bullying them, sort of – but only if you agree that the police bully people by arresting them for breaking the law.
Do you even agree that these people did something wrong by posting this racist bile in the first place?
yes they did something wrong i agree, but i disagree with your comment about police bulling. With a police arresting you at least its to your face you know whats going on and such. TAB has a website singling out yes people with fucked up views then really not naming and shaming but to go even more extreme and get them fired from there jobs (and aging you people are doing it not them they are not writing letter to there employers). the worst part is its behind there back. there should be a link to this website so they can defend themselves right away. our legal system is that your not guilt in till proven guilty!
Do i agree with what these people wrote about there racist biles, no, these are in the more extreme side of things with really no point behind these groups. for example being that a race is know to be bad drives, well if you went to that country yes they are bad drivers but because there is no road rules! and if you haven’t been to that country you wouldn’t know about that.
i don’t agree with what your doing its the wrong way to make people think, at the end of the day they might lose there job. but then put there profiles on private and get another job and still have the same thoughts and opinions.
At least if they change jobs, put their profiles on private and keep their racist vileness inside the walls of their own heads, they will not be either inciting others to hate a group of people or bullying a group of people. (Like you, I agree that bullying sucks.) We can’t always change the way people think (alas!), but if we can make them at least act like a civilised human being, we’re part of the way there…
THEY put their workplaces up!!! If people are stupid enough to put such comments on a public forum plus have their workplace showing, they deserve to be fired. They are representing their workplace!
well im gna sue this stupid website cause im a bogan and i find it offensive that they have called this website theantibogan ur all just as bad
So Chloe. It’s been a while now.
What’s happening ??
Dickhead…
Turns out the legal system works mighty slow around these parts
hahaha this is an excellent website.
Speaking of banning the Burka, check out this facebook group
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Balaclava-day-to-hide-our-identity-like-the-Muslims-do/137848639626495
Australia is a beautiful country.Racists and bigots make it ugly. It would be a blessing if these clowns DID hide their faces.
The operators of this site must live in some kind of insulated fairy land … wake up and smell the roses.
Aw poor you. I bet you’ve got a really tough life. What did you watch on your Plasma tonight?
“Birth of a Nation” no doubt.
I’m a fucking douchebag.
* Note: this comment may have been edited by TAB.
Geez man, don’t give yourself a hernia.
Really? Well if that’s the case, the morons on Facebook defaming and harassing me will also go. At the end of the day, everything on FB is owned by FB, so unless FB chooses to sue TAB, you have no case.
WTF? Try to learn how construct a sentence and try again.
Go away and molest yourself moron.
My last comment was directed to “michael” BTW.
LOOK! Up in the sky! It’s a bird. It’s a plane. No, it’s just a complete wanker, so full of his own hot air and gases that he’s started to float into the stratosphere. Let’s hope you don’t get into outerspace Michael, those aliens are known to probe people.
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Just found this product of douchetardery:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Throwing-asians-off-the-Harbour-Bridge-for-clean-up-Australia-day/175622205834096
Whoever made this page is fucking vile.
Looks like it has been shut down. First time that’s ever happened when I’ve reported a racist page.
Probs need to hit this up: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181141481939718
Nice new skin. Feels less like a template and more like a Rage Against The Machine fan site. 🙂
I just wanted to say your website is a crock of fukn shit you are taking away peoples freedom of speech for one and the other thing is you call your website antibogan bogan is a stereo type which really if you think deep and long about it is a form of racism because your judging another human for being different which is what racism is and as for contacting ppl employment and posting thngs on here from there accounts your taking there opionions away from them racism is all around and this is our country and if we dont want it over run with boat ppl then so be it why shuld we give them houses cars money etc when they wont help an australian born person the same thing charity starts at home and as far as im concered you need a wake up call i suppose you will start calling our omcedians racist because they make racist jokes aswell get a fukn life grow up and do sumthing constructive with your time like i dunno go work in a soup kitchen help some homeless aussies that cant get no fukn centerlink to pay the houses off because the governement is fukd giving assistance to all the fukheads that come in on boats
Come back when you learn how to use full stops.
Just thought you guys might like to see something from an old “friend of yours”. I think he’s “improved”. Enjoy guys. 😀
Thanks for that Sai Ho. Always good to see nutzis deteriorate into frenzied public madness.
Hi TAB,
I’m flattered that you guys read my article and so glad that the site is still kicking. I will continue to read your updates and articles.
I admire your resolution and commend the difference you are making to the problems of social intolerance and apathy.
Please keep it up.
Nathan
Comments on the NT News website are absolutely shocking today guys – the racist/ethnocentric minority (let’s hope) in the NT have their ignorance on display.
I’ve been wondering why there has been no comment, argument or story relating to the Federal Governments attempts to change the law regarding off shore processing of refugees. Here is a government trying to alter laws that don’t suit their ridiculous, even cruel political agenda even after our highest court has ruled their actions to be illegal and inhumane. There is not one mention of it on here! Is it because the anti bogan itself now seems to have more of a political agenda that is in line with the Labour Government and Julia Gillard. Along with the Green Party, the Liberal Party are in fact stopping the law changes, all be it that they still want off shore processing but at least to countries that have signed the UN Refugee Convention. Not a good solution by any means but definately not as bad as the Malaysian solution.
We had an analysis on the Mind Made Up blog a couple of weeks ago, followed by an article from one of the newspapers.
I just wanted to commend all of you on the job you’re doing. You are, at least to some of us who have trouble reconciling the lack of logical process implicit in the vast majority of political discussions in Australia, and the world at large, currently, heroes, in a very real, very literal sense. The ignorance and intolerance of so many people in our society, like those featured on your site, is so thoroughly depressing and impossible to debate (the trouble with stupid people is they never know when they’ve lost an argument) that it’s sometimes difficult to retain any kind of faith in humanity, knowing that so many are comfortable with such obvious and transparent fallacies in place of logic and rationality. Seriously, and without the slightest touch of sarcasm, thank you for doing what you’re doing, and please, keep doing it.
My posts are missing from your site. people come here to see how racist I am. Can you please insure that my posts that you have copied to your site are restored. I love the free publicity. NO-ONE has ever given me negative feedback regarding my posts here. However they do pat me on the back. I keep this town running, everyone knows me. I am even involved with organisations that assist the homeless. I am not a bogan, so please spread my word as normal people agree with me. I am still waiting for just one person to give me some negative feedback relating to being on your site. Bring it on. You need to do better. Maybe take out some commercial advertising, to expose us racists. You really need to do more, this is not enough.
Sure thing. As soon as you reveal your identity. I see you’re from Brisbane. That’s not much help yet.
I have just recently been introduced to your website. And I have to say what a laugh it is! The creator of this website hides him or herself behind a mask but is more than happy to place private information of others whos views are different to their own for the world to see! I work in a Multicultural office and 90% of the ppl here agree with me…..It was a muslim women who put me onto your site saying that she was upset that sites like this are causing more damage! She, like me is only living the life she was brought up believing in. Traditions that were passed down through the Generations.Now weather that is here in Aus or in her home land. But she like me believes that while she is living in Aus she should respect our way of life.
I am a white Aussie…..blonde hair blue eyes (And to some of your followers that makes me a bogan). And I strongly believe in my traditions (Again this would make me a Bogan). I have had the greatest gift of being able to travel to a number of different countries, And while i was more comfortable and felt safer in some than i did others I would not change the experience and the knowlegde i have gained for anything.
I think what alot of what you like to call bogans want is to be able to live the life they themselves have been brought up knowing and are scared that they might one day be taken away form them. As history has shown it can happen!
While I was in Egypt I was told…not asked to wear a head scarf and enter by another door to that of my husband. Did I argue, refuse to enter or create a scene? Did i go to the paper and say I was being treated unfairly? Or I was treated like a second class citizen? No i did not I was in another country where these are their traditions and I was a visitor and therefore i had respect for the culture. If I choose to live in that country then I would have no choice but to live that life and respect their beliefs. While I was in the UK I was shocked to see that yes some shopping centres were not hanging xmas decorations, some schools were not performing xmas plays. And the reason for this was that they did not want to disrespect the muslims in the area.
Now weather this is true or not I did not see any xmas decorations at the shopping centre. So if such things can happen in the UK then why couldnt it happen here? It would seem to some that History is repeating itself….Cpt Cook raped Australia and while some of his men might have been apposed to what he was doing what choice did they have but to follow orders, while some ppl thought it was wrong to remove Aboriginal children from their parents and homes after the goverment ruled they must for the sake of the child! what choice did they have? Again but to follow orders! so what Im saying is not everyone agreed with what was happening but they did what was expected of them. So some Aussies believe that, some not all Muslims would like to do the same here.
This debate will rage for yrs to come……long after my life and that of my children
All i do know is that I am Australian and Proud! if that makes me a Bogan then so be it! I love living in this Country which is a choice I make I value my freedom of speech. But most of all I Value our Traditions and our way of Life!
My real name is provided…..
Yawn. Heard your shit before, spouted by other retards. Do the research then get back to us about your issues.
Dear Ms Weasel,
I have just recently been introduced to your post. And I have to say what a laugh it is! The creator of this post hides him or herself behind a mask of supposedly informed rhetoric but is more than happy to place misinformation and ignorant views with spurious unsubstantiated claims!
Allow me to give you an example of your stupidity… And then by means of simple editing change the meaning 180 degrees:
“I live in a Multicultural country and 90% of the people here agree with me….. It was a Muslim woman who put me onto your post saying that she was upset that posts like this are causing more damage! She, like me is only living the life she was brought up believing in. But she like me believes that while she is living in Australia she should respect our way of life and here’s the remarkable thing – she does – as do more members of the Muslim community than non-Muslims – I’ve seen the crime statistics and anti-social behavior is predominantly perpetuated by Protestants!”
(Gee don’t you like “My best friend is Muslim so I am allowed to be anti-Islamic”, “I know a gay man who also hates gays”, “I’m not anti-Semitic, my uncle is a Jew and he hates all Jews” statements? Well how about you get your Muslim/Gay/Jewish colleague to write in then and confirm your claims on their behalf?)
You are a white Aussie (blonde hair blue eyes too apparently), who shows a limited understanding of standard grammatical conventions, a serious ineptitude at logical progression and no awareness of how to reasonably compose your thoughts in the English language – so, to most of us, that makes you a bogan). You strongly believe in your ill-informed rhetoric (again, this would make you a bogan). Better yet, to me that makes you the human equivalent of a cyst on the arse of a particularly diarrhetic warthog.
You have apparently had the ‘gift’ of being able to travel to a number of different countries, and while you were more comfortable and felt safer in some than you were in others, you obviously did not gain any insight whatsoever into the world as a whole and have limited experience and no knowledge gained from any of these journeys, as is clearly evidenced in your writing.
I think what a lot of what you are unnecessarily concerned about is a completely misguided fear that you will be unable to live the life you have been brought up knowing and are petrified that this might one day be taken away from you.
You do not like change. You want Cabbage Patch dolls. You want no seat belts in the back of cars. You want Billy Ray Cyrus. You want asbestos roofing. You want hyper-colour T-shirts. You want cane toads. You want mums to stay at home. You want no sunscreen.
You…sob…want…sob…things…sob…to…sob…never…sob…change…
Actually Peter Pan, it looks like you want to stop the world in the 1850s.
While you were in Egypt apparently you were told, not asked, to wear a head scarf and enter by another door to that of your husband. Did you argue, refuse to enter or create a scene? Did you go to the paper and say I was being treated unfairly? Were you treated like a second class citizen? According to you, you did not as you were in another country where these are their traditions and you were a visitor and therefore you claim to have ‘respect for the culture’. You obviously don’t since you are now saying this was an issue, but that’s a side point and more an indication of your lack of logic than anything else (on this note, you may want to look up the difference between ‘tourist’ and ‘citizen’ as per your question about being treated like a “second class citizen”).
Now here’s the funny thing: if you were ‘able to’ (not ‘choose to’ – a word you bandy around with absolute disdain for its meaning) live in that country then you would most certainly have a choice to question those beliefs and take a stand against them if you wanted to. NEWS FLASH: you can even fight for the rights of Egyptian women OUTSIDE of Egypt – WOW!!!! If you did then you would likely find many Egyptian women also doing this too! DOUBLE WOW!!!
OOOOOOO – people fighting for equality of sexes – remarkable!
While you were in the UK, you claim to have been shocked to see that some shopping centres were not hanging Christmas decorations, some schools were not performing Christmas plays. And the reason for this was that you believe is that they did not want to disrespect the Muslims in the area.
Quite apart from the fact that I personally just got back from the UK and saw none of this, I note your distinct lack of evidence in this situation. I also appreciate your WILD accusation that this was because of Muslims ‘in the area’.
I for one know that most of my Anglo-Saxon friends are not interested in Christmas decorations because they are ATHIEST. I know some shop-keepers who are like this. Ooooo. Scary isn’t it that your ‘fellow Aussies’ may be anti-Christmas for completely separate reasons to ‘appeasing Muslims’.
Now whether this is true or not; it stands that you purport to not seeing any Christmas decorations at the/a/some (?) shopping centre/s and are now panicking based on the most minutely limited amount of personal experience (that may or may not have been completely made up based on information you may or may not remember – see crime reports on ‘reliability of eye-witnesses’ for more information).
So if such things can (purportedly) happen in the UK then why couldn’t it happen here? Actually… why shouldn’t they happen here? Why should we tolerate a farcical Northern European Winter Solstice Pagan tradition with ridiculous Northern Hemisphere symbols (pine trees and balls and glitter and fake snow etc.) that have nothing to do with the alleged birthday date of a Jewish/Palestinian zombie 2000 years ago in a hot Middle-Eastern dusty town?
It would seem to some that this is the highest order of stupidity and time-wasting…
Captain Cook is documented as the first European to make contact with the East Coast of Australia and while some of his men might have been opposed to what he was doing, but what choice did they have but to follow orders –well they could have disobeyed orders but that would have led to court-martial – this is what happens in the navy – but this has nothing to do with anything related to this topic. Thank you for that brain-fart of a side-track.
While some people thought it was wrong to remove Aboriginal children from their parents and homes after the government ruled they must for the sake of the child! What choice did they have?
Hmmm… perhaps they could have dissented… Controversial huh, but this is how positive change happens. Google: ‘Mohandas K Ghandi’ or ‘Martin Luther King Junior’ or ‘Nelson Mandela’ for more details. Also I refer you back to the ‘Egyptian women’ scenario above.
So what I’m saying is not everyone agreed with what was happening, ESPECIALLY relating to inequality and they took a stand… wow.
Some Aussies like you believe that people should not be free to make their own decisions about cultural events like Christmas. You get worked up about it and blame Muslims. Previously you blamed Vietnamese. Previous to that you blamed Eastern Orthodox Greeks for ‘ruining Christmas’. Previous to that Irish Catholics or English Protestants were to blame (depending on which side of the fence you sat)… Are you beginning to see a pattern here?
This debate will rage for years to come as long as there are ill-informed ignorant recalcitrants like you willing to broadcast your stupidity to your world…
All I do know is that I am Australian and proud! I am also literate, educated and informed unlike you which makes me quite comfortably categorise you as a Bogan.
I love living in this Country and part of that love allows me to call into question things I do not like about it. I do not like Christmas for example so I don’t feel compelled to nonchalantly accept it. Unlike you, I don’t believe that living here is a “choice I make” because there is no guarantee ever that any other country will accept me. This is ‘logic’ – please do consider using Google to find out what this term means.
I value freedom of speech but scorn people like you using this as an petty excuse to make ill-informed sweeping generalisations to disguise racist (and illegal) tendencies. I also recognise that ‘freedom of speech’ is present here by convention but not enshrined in any public covenant.
But most of all I value the capacity for society to PROGRESS.
You on the other hand appear to champion STAGNATION or REGRESSION, so it is without hesitation and in the sincerest possible way that I am happy to declare my belief that you are a fucking tool. Get a life.
P.S. My real name is fucking irrelevant to this matter and I don’t really care that you posted yours.
Hello,
Thanks for a great blog.
Unfortunately the comments made on the 11 of December was made by my narrow minded bogan neigbour and I do not want my name to be associated with any kind of discrimination towards ANY race, age, gender or sexuality. I’m embarrassed for even having him as a friend on my facebook.
Please remove my name from the posts as I put down a questionmark as I thought it was a sick joke made by him. I have now removed him as a friend from facebook and to clarify- I am all for equality and gay marriages (some of my best friends are gay and I give gay people my full support in every choice they make).
Kind Regards Miriam Winkler
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t853260-5/
Check out the last post… some racist uses quotes of a minority of anti-racists on TAB to make us look bad.
Quote: “bogans should be “sterilized” … “bashed” “Killed” and in one case “gassed””
PLEASE try to refrain from using violence/threatening language etc. against these vulgar racists. I understand these poeple have NO idea how their offensive opinions are formed or how to explain their White supremacy logically.
Why should we fall to their levels? Why not outwit them through discourse??
Stupid FAGS~! Closets are for clothes not for weird ugly people to come out of.
What happened to the gay magician? he vanished with a poof. Why can’t every fag vanish? he would make the world a better place!
I had a gay cousin, the good thing is his dead and in hell.
Gays are foul immoral beasts. There is no difference between a poof and a man who has sexual intercourse with animals. Bestiality and homosexuality are disgustingly foul!
You people should be ashamed of yourselves!
What’s the matter, can’t get a date?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Daryl-Coates/179760215413250
Steward Ray,
I am actually mildly peturbed at the insanity in your diatribe. Are you really that mad or is this simply an act to illicit a response?
If you have a few roos loose in the top paddock then good luck – I hear there are new medications available that may help.
If you are a troll then please get a life you worthless mungbean.
If you are actually someone who places consentual interpersonal relations on a par with the abuse of animals then Google: “logic”. It may help. Numbskull.
Fuck off, moron.
^Directed @Stewart Ray
Geez Tzz, you’re on a bit of a rampage tonight aren’t you?