There is “free speech” and then there’s bogots…

“Australians are free, within the bounds of the law, to say or write what we think privately or publicly, about the government, or about any topic. We do not censor the media and may criticise the government without fear of arrest. Free speech comes from facts, not rumours, and the intention must be constructive, not to do harm. There are laws to protect a person’s good name and integrity against false information. There are laws against saying or writing things to incite hatred against others because of their culture, ethnicity or background. Freedom of speech is not an excuse to harm others.”

Department of Immigration and Citizenship

Well it seems like our bogot friends either haven’t read this statement nor have they understood it.

We still get loads of rubbish like this on social media.

Take Toilet Boy here.

He doesn’t want a bar of “free speech” because it’s not his sort of  “free speech”. So he urges his followers (?) to go over to a Facebook page and trash it.


Then we get the ever-present attempts to intimidate people on pages the bogot doesn’t like.


and this from Twitter. We’ve met “Greg Jessop” before.


Yet just listen to them going on about “the law” and their “rights”.

Now this Freedom of Speech group (in actual fact-  surprise surprise – an anti-Muslim group) has an admin who fancies itself as a legal expert. Its rant is directed at someone whose identity we have chosen to conceal but who has an Arabic name.

Note the patronising tone and the assumptions made.


After FreeSpeech has pontificated about its opponent’s supposed lack of education (obvious – after all he is “teh_moooslem”) the pwnage begins.


We predict a great future for the law student – perhaps on the Bench?

And as for FreeSpeech?

The future of hate speech FreeSpeech?

An Australian Facebook User Called the Prime Minister a ‘Slut’ to Her Face | Motherboard

By Brian Merchant

Drew Boyer is a young man, just 19 years old. He went to Wanneroo Senior High School in Perth, Australia. And he just called Australia’s prime minister a “slut” to her face. But the Australian media hasn’t made much noise about Drew Boyer, because he did it on Facebook.Prime Minister Julia Gillard recently took part in an event billed as the first of its kind: a live Q+A on Facebook where citizens were offered a direct line the country’s top official. Seems like a trendy, progressive way to connect with young, plugged-in voters; sort of like Obama’s much-discussed Ask Me Anything session on Reddit. Unfortunately, it also soon acquainted the Gillard administration with another novel aspect of social media platforms: they unleash the trolls, allowing the repressed assholes of the world to speak their mind with no fear of public recrimination.So as soon as Gillard had logged on to the hour-long event, which was intended to focus on the prime minister’s education policy, the filth started flowing. SkyNews details what happened:

A Facebook question and answer session with Prime Minister Julia Gillard on education turned sexist and nasty, with her office forced to remove offensive comments. Ms Gillard took to the social networking site on Monday to talk about her education policies. But the discourse turned ugly, with one man calling the prime minister a slut. Another man asked how her father was. John Gillard died last month.

‘Get my dinner ready’ posted another man, while one asked if her ‘pubes’ were as ‘radiant, shiny and glorious’ as his own. A number of other Facebook users labelled her the worst prime minister and criticised her voice, with one saying her voice and demeanour were like nails on a blackboard.

In a town hall or a real-life Q+A with Gillard, none of these people would have had the gall to say a word of the above. In fact, in any other forum, many of those comments would qualify as straight-up sexual harassment. Yet the semi-anonymity of the internet, the inherent sense of distance and disconnect from other real live organ-filled people, and the unreality engendered by staring alone into the reflective abyss of the laptop screen had, for a bunch of dirtbags, once again turned the act of responding to actual events into a fantastical video game. An ugly, juvenile, and sexist video game; the sort played on Facebook by millions of idiots every day.

The interesting thing here is that these users weren’t even cloaked in actual anonymity. These were people with verified Facebook profiles with photos up front and center, willing to call the prime minister a SSSSSSLLLLLUUUUUUUTTTTTT.

The guy who wrote that, for instance, is our 19 year-old manboy Drew Boyer, who uses the alias UglyStonerr.

And this is essentially what Drew Boyer did: he called the Prime Minister of Australia a “slut” to her face. She was sitting right there, after all, on her computer, in real-time, as Mr. Boyer typed his inflammatory comment. The digital words sprang into being as quickly as real ones, in the same amount of time. His name and identifying icon were right there on the screen. It’s quite possible that, in this case, it was clearer who made the comment than it would have been had Mr. Boyer shouted such a statement from a crowded debate hall. So I repeat: Drew Boyer called Prime Minister Julia Gillard a ‘slut’ to her face.

But consider this: If Boyer had indeed been sitting at a town hall meeting where Gillard was speaking, if he stood up and yelled “SSSSSLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUTTTT,” he would have made the national news cycle. Easy. Australia would know the name of Drew Boyer. But barring the cameras and the bellowing, this was precisely the same thing: The same number of people, or more, were online for the Facebook Q+A as would attend a live debate event, give or take. Gillard, her aides, and the audience registered Boyer’s message just as clearly. A concise, sexist insult delivered directly to the Prime Minister, for all to see. So why is the media cutting Mr. Boyer and his ilk so much slack, when such actions would be roundly decried by punditry across the land if they were spoken aloud instead of tapped out on a keyboard? Why are we so slow to apply the same social standards to the digital spaces we’re increasingly occupying and communicating across?

The media, and many older folks in general, tend to look upon Facebook and Twitter and YouTube as either objects of curiosity or juvenile toys, and therefore take less seriously the messages scrawled out there. The younger, for their part, have grown accustomed to treating these platforms as an almost alternate plane of reality, where they can get away with saying stuff they typically wouldn’t in real life. Both are bullshit. These may be (relatively) newly shaped conduits for transmitting your ideas, but you’re still responsible for those ideas. Especially if you choose to share them publicly, in a chat room with the elected leader of your country.

Because, come on man, it’s as public as anything. As public as the fact that according to his own Facebook page, we know that Mr. Boyer prefers to use the free lubricant included in Four Seasons brand condoms and is against gay marriage.

So what is the phenomenon that makes Boyer feel comfortable making insulting sexist remarks about Ms. Gillard, while she’s sitting right there, reading them? He’s surely aware that all this information is easily transmitted. Judging by his profile, he’s used Facebook extensively. He knows how this works. So perhaps he’s simply not registering the significance of remarks made on Facebook. It’s not like he said them on TV or something. Those words just somehow seem less real on the internet, and he knows nobody is going to criticize his sexist views over some dumb comment he made on Facebook. The medium changes the message — except that it doesn’t.

There has to come a point when will we grant the space more gravity, when we absorb intuitively the fact that people who make such offensive comments should be help accountable for them. The point will come when we begin to treat these platforms with the scrutiny we do with other more formalized modes of communication, when we calibrate the strange blend of casual transmission and permanent record-keeping that defines social media.

But I guess it’s possible some people will always see Facebook and Twitter and whatever comes next as screw-around houses and nonsense receptacles, where our bad impulses and unseemly ideas can be deleted the next morning or six months or six years from now when we have that job interview. Maybe they’ll never actually absorb the new-found accountability social media demands of our comments. That Facebook doesn’t offer immunity to the composers of misogynistic or otherwise offensive remarks. The Drew Boyers of the world may simply never consider the fact that his future would-be employers might Google his name and find this article.


An Australian Facebook User Called the Prime Minister a ‘Slut’ to Her Face | Motherboard.

Here’s Drew

Here's Drew. Very average outside very ugly inside.

Here’s Drew. Very average outside very ugly inside.

(and here are the worst of the comments on Brian’s article. )


Serial Internet pest, self-appointed moral compass and defamatory troll Peter Tolmie kicks off,  followed by Whingin’ Chris Smalley.


The Moral Defamers are joined by Alison Laing. Hummy then gives us an incoherent rant about fluoride (??) and a fake joins in with a cut-and-paste from every dreary far right piece of drivel out there.


Constitutional “experts” Fred and Brian kick off, interrupted by yet another Moral Crusader in the person of Brian Palmer.

Hey fellas, you are starting to sound jealous with all this obsession about people’s private lives.

Then again no one is too impressed by someone whose education consist of  “Mafia Wars”.


Ewan Lambert, whose main activity is playing Facebook-based games,  joins the moralists.  And marching on centre stage is Peter Tolmie’s intimate friend Ivan “Waste Transfer” Tipp, yet another serial Internet troll.

We’ll be sure not to have any dealings with Eric Hallforde and Viking Concrete either


Ivan also goes under the name of Ivan Havel. We can hear the great Czech humanitarian, poet and statesman Václav Havel spinning in his grave at the thought of having his surname hijacked by this far right fail.

Too many spills off the Harley can bring on brain damage Ivan.

Mark Berney and Dean Pollock continue the defamation and the best description of  the contribution of the Family Snitch to the standard of political debate in this country can be summarised by the cartoon.


We don’t think anyone will f$#k Craig either.

And here’s a pic of Ivan and Peter so you can avoid them when shopping.

Elderly Internet besties Ivan Tipp and Peter Tolmie. All trolls all the time.

Elderly Internet besties Ivan Tipp and Peter Tolmie. All trolls all the time.

Robbie Farah Calls Police After Troll Tweets About His Dead Mother

Wests Tigers captain Robbie Farah has called on the police and politicians to act after he was the recipient of a distasteful message on Twitter about his late mother.

Farah called on Prime Minister Julia Gillard to tighten social media laws after he received the vile message, demanding that the so-called Twitter trolls be held accountable for their actions. He also stated that he had contacted police over the matter.

The laws are piss weak and people should be accountable for their comments. 

"We all need to make a stand and get these scums off twitter" ... Wests Tigers captain Robbie Farah.

”We all need to make a stand and get these scums off twitter,” a clearly angry Farah said on the social networking site. ”The laws are piss weak and people should be accountable for their comments.”

He also sent a message directly to the PM. ”We need @JuliaGillard to take some action and change these soft laws. people need to be accountable for their comments,” he said.

Farah’s mother Sonia died in June after a long battle with pancreatic cancer. Farah’s grief was made more public after he played a leading role for NSW in a State of Origin victory just days before she passed away. He was also forced to withdraw from the Tigers’ clash with Sydney Roosters after his mother died on the day of the game. The anonymous Twitter user sent sick references about Sonia Farah directly to the Wests Tigers star. Farah retweeted the message to his more than 27,000 followers. The Herald has chosen not to repeat the offensive tweet.

Later, Farah said he had contacted the police, while the account of the user who sent the message was last night shut down.

NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell also weighed in, saying in a message to Farah he would support action being taken in the matter. ”shouldn’t matter who target is – completely unacceptable,” he wrote. ”Will follow up & happy to work with Feds to stop it.”

The same Twitter troll sent several messages to Canberra fullback Josh Dugan yesterday.

Farah’s actions in highlighting the offensive tweet and making a stand might prompt stricter laws around social media.

Last month a 17-year-old boy was arrested in England for using Twitter to tell British diver Tom Daley – whose father Rob died of cancer last year – that he had let his father down by missing out on a medal.

That incident came four months after a Swansea University student was jailed for 56 days for posting racially offensive comments about the Bolton Wanderers player Fabrice Muamba, who collapsed on the pitch during an FA Cup tie in March.

The act of ”trolling” has been a talking point in recent weeks after TV star Charlotte Dawson was hospitalised after persistent harassment.