Defamation Row

with apologies to the great Bob Dylan

Scumsite

Just after we published our last set of musings on the racist and bigoted sewers of the Internet we happened to come across a stolen picture of one of our friends on one particular scumsite complete with defamatory comment.

That is nothing new for us since just about every anti-intolerance activist has been labelled and defamed as paedophiles since Facebook began. Some of them notoriously so.

It seems the enemy, lacking any factual or moral underpinning for its garbage, can only resort to the criminality which comes so naturally to it.

However the person in question is a blogger who happens to support the Australian Labor Party and the Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Just like about 50% of the Australian voting-age population going by the results of the last Federal election.

He has never actually confronted the enemy nor has he written about them. Yet.

Now note the only comment showing.

Here’s the brave person making the comment hiding behind a fake profile.

Yet another numbingly boring robotic troll created to make the scumsites look like they have more interest than they actually have. There must be a Dalek factory somewhere producing them.

This one seems to be American. We hope for its sake that it has deep pockets.

And just take a look at who has “liked” the comment.

“John Jones” is a fake. But Scott Pengelly, of Melton in Melbourne’s outer suburbs, is not. Moreover he is allegedly employed in a child care centre!

Charming!

Maybe it’s time to remind it that in Australia we have defamation laws and a large amount of precedent-setting case law and its foreign origin does not protect either it or Facebook from litigation. Check out Gutnick V Dow Jones [2001] if you don’t believe us.

In fact scummies you are all on the wrong track. An association between child sex offences and far right political views, beliefs and culture  is emerging in the literature.

Paedophilia: The Public Health Problem Of The Decade (Dr William F Glaser)

If we do not deny the offences, then we refuse to recognize the victims. If we do not deny that there are victims, then we refuse to recognize their suffering. The reasons for this state of affairs are complex and arise from a combination of entrenched patriarchal values, child (and woman) hatred disguised as pseudo-science …(Rush, 1980; Masson,1985).

Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter and the politics of paedophile rings: The Conversation (Michael Salter)

It is well recognised that commonly held views about masculinity, sexuality and power are used by offenders to legitimise child abuse. In some circumstances, the abuse of children and women can become a means of male bonding.

So perhaps scummies you should all look in the mirror before you continue to defame decent hard-working progressive Australian men.

When rape becomes “freedom of speech”

A large number of pro-rape pro-child abuse pages apparently originating in Australia have recently sprung up on Facebook with titles such as

Roses are red, violets are blue, I’m going to fuck you with a rake

Rose’s (sic) are red, Violets are blue,my Rape mode is on and I’m coming for you!

roses are red violets are blue if i had a beer bottle id (sic) smash it over you

Kicking sluts in the throat.

It i’snt (sic) actually a rape if you say “SURPRISE” first.

Missing your final exam because you were date raped the night before

Calling your penis Jack the Ripper because it kills and eats prostitutes

These are just a few of the hundred or so page URLs supplied to the Facebook reporting group Report Hate Groups for reporting by members.

Now you would think that some of the far right pages which also infest Facebook like a nasty plague, and which are always clamouring that they support women’s rights and are always accusing minority-group males of being rapists and predators  would be front and centre at condemning these pro-rape pro-child abuse pages and calling for their removal.

Not so

And a far right site which is always pointing the finger at Muslims, asylum seekers and anyone they decide is a “leftie” has actually decided to inform one of the pro-rape pages that they are being reported.

And when an anti-rape activist decides to let members of Report Hate Groups know that the Tanty Bogans have informed the pro-rape pages that they are being reported

the Tanty Bogans are so affronted that they decide to conduct what passes for a discussion on their page.

Please note that their page has recently changed its name so if you can be bothered looking for it you will find it as Exposing the antiboganworldpress.com or something.

And as the chief  Tanty finishes its tanty the peanut gallery chimes in with its usual ad hominem mouth-breathings. In fact Joel Rickard gets so excited at having seen a picture of a real woman that he feels the need to make the same dumb comment twice.

And when the Tanties are challenged for their hypocrisy and support of hate crimes against women

We know the Tanties hate facts and evidence, but it might be a good time to point out to them that in Australia one in three women is a victim of sexual violence –  so they, their relatives and friends either include victims or know someone who is a victim.

We can also point out that men too are victims of sexual violence and child abuse. For instance one in seven males has been subjected to child abuse.

But that doesn’t worry the Tanties. They are only concerned with their freedom of hate speech.

Something to ponder

Killing in the name of paedophilia

February 12, 2012

By Josana

From time to time I get a little mail here at Sharkscage, usually in the form of a comment on my blog. Unlike other blogs, I’m not interested in facilitating discussion from both sides of the issue, and as such I usually don’t authorise the posting of comments that I disagree with. They’ve already had plenty of audience elsewhere, there’s certainly no need for me to provide them with any more.

The posts I haven’t allowed on the blog tend to all follow the same pattern. They start off with a mild threat, often accusing me of ignorance or conspiracy. They will then at length detail a series of opinions which they then try pass off as facts, before lacing in a few more serious threats, culminating with a passive aggressive demand to post their ‘response’ and an accusation that I’m not brave enough to print (their variation of) the truth.

How thick could you get? I mean…really.

The reason I mention this, is because I received a little sulk from an individual who featured in my discussion: Violence for the Masses. The same pattern could be observed in this post, and once again I observed protocol and relegated it to the dustbin.

I’ll hereby name said sook ‘Pugsley’ for future reference.

Say hi to Pugsley

However, some of the content in this post had me thinking about the language that is often used by these serial haters online. It’s not just observed in postings on my blog, but in many other locations on the Internet.

On this occasion, the post was full of references to ‘homosexuals’, ‘paedophiles’ ‘Socialists’ and ‘Muslims’.

There’s one word that really stands out to me amongst those 4. It’s the only word that I would actually be willing to say is something that is evil.

However, I’m certain that the poster was writing from a point of view that all these things were undeniably evil. I’d even go as far as to say that he even regards all of these things as epitomising evil. Support one of these evils, and you support them all.

I think we need to start looking closely at the language that people like ‘Pugsley’ use while exercising their freedom of speech. They may be just re-using patterns and clichés that they have heard elsewhere, but what they are saying is deliberately manipulative and could have serious repercussions on our community

Let’s look closer at the one real evil in that list: Paedophilia.

Paedophilia has become a major fear in our community in the last decade. This has been mostly because of the unprecedented access that these people (both men and women) have had to communicate with children via online means. The evils that are perpetrated by these people are very real, and will continue to be a large problem for our community indefinitely.

A large problem has also been our community’s reaction to paedophiles. As was demonstrated when convicted perpetrator Dennis Ferguson was released into our community, there was an outpouring of people expressing their wish to cause physical violence to Dennis.

This was a very real concern to the police. In reality assault is assault. And the lines are pretty clear that such violence is equally as great an evil under our law.

However, ask yourself this question: If your father murdered a man, would you be proud of him? If your father murdered a paedophile, would you be proud of him?

We humans often justify the violence and the evils we perpetrate. If we feel a need to inflict violence upon someone, we often justify our actions in order to make ourselves feel ‘not evil’.

The Nazis used many justifications to exterminate 6 million Jews.

This is what I mean by a deliberate manipulation. While we have allowed people to justify extreme violence on others because of their evils, we have given them an out – an excuse to commit these vile acts. The ‘gay panic’ defence which is outlawed in most states of Australia works in this way. It implied that murder was justifiable because the perpetrator committed an act that oddly some people still consider ‘evil’.

But I’m not here to talk about a definition of evil, or even discuss what to do and how to deal with the paedophiles in our community. What I am interested in, is how and why the word ‘paedophile’ so frequently comes into our language these days.

Look around the forums and Facebook, and you will frequently see references to paedophilia; or more importantly, an accusation that someone is a paedophile.

There’s always no evidence for this, but it’s a falsity that is intentionally perpetrated in the hope that someone will take this accusation as fact, without checking the background on it and treat the victim as though they actually were a paedophile.

What they are really doing here, is trying to attach the label of paedophile to a person so that they can justify the extreme and violent actions that they wish, or are intending to do to this person.

The power of this language is so great, that the most vicious and aggressive in our society often speak openly of their wish to perpetuate such violence upon the paedophiles in our community, despite the unlikelihood that they would ever meet one. Mention paedophiles in polite conversation, and you’ll often come across someone who seems to switch personality almost instantly, while they tell you of the vicious actions they wish to perpetuate on a paedophile.

This socially justifiable violence is problematic. In Queensland the issue of ‘gay panic’ has seen a lot of scrutiny lately as a series of grisly murders have come to the attention of the wider community, all of which had attempted to use the ‘gay Panic’ defence in court.

My email correspondence from ‘Pugsley’ was no different. Throughout the text Pugsley speaks of violence that he wishes to perpetuate upon all of these groups, while quietly inferring that he would do suchlike upon myself if I continue to get in his way of his right to attack these people.

I’ve seen Pugsley’s online friends use the same language as well. I’ve also watched his friends and others whom he is acquainted with label quite a broad section of people that have opposed them has ‘paedophiles’, thus diminishing their standing in our community while justifying the kinds of ‘justified’ violence that people like Pugsley wish to inflict upon them.

Another serious side effect of this abuse of the term ‘paedophile’, is that slowly the label will no longer be as powerful as it once was. Slowly the community will become blasé about the label of paedophile, and people making that accusation. Crying wolf, so to speak. This is a dangerous outcome which could quickly put the lives of children at risk.

Where will Pugsley and friends, the great (ineffectual) defenders against paedophilia, be then?

Do you really wish to have a community that can justify all kinds of horrific violence, yet actually make it easier for the real evils in our society to hide?

Source

Sharls Ashton and “teh_pedos”

We have found that bogots have a prurient, enthusiastic and unhealthy interest in child abuse. For instance they dwell lovingly and in great detail on mythical instances of child abuse supposedly committed by groups of people they don’t like such as Muslims, asylum seekers, anti-racists and anyone not like them. At the same time they are oblivious to the relatively high proportion of their kind, both here and overseas, who are arrested and charged with child protection offences.

Now meet Sharls Ashton, serial Facebook fruitcake.

At the time that profile existed Sharls was apparently employed in some capacity by Surf Lifesaving Australia. She has since removed the reference and seems to be committed full-time to football hooligans crim support group the ADL.

No doubt she keeps the teapot full of bile going for the lads at ADdled HQ.

ADL Headquarters

Hard as it is to read and decipher Sharls’ pointless rants, they usually provides lulz when one has nothing better to do.

But this time Sharls has not only managed to defame two unrelated anti-racists but is apparently inviting the daughter of one of them to be stalked by paedophiles.

No doubt the police will be very interested in how Sharls managed to obtain this false “information” given her acknowledged close ties to dodgy groups like the ADL. And we suggest Sharls looks closer to home for any more “paedophiles”. Maybe she should start with the EDL?