Election special No 8 – Rise Up Ratbags!

Christian Taliban stormtroopers Rise Up Australia continue to provide a welcome giggle.

If they did not exist would it have been necessary for The Chaser to invent them? Probably.

They join a crew of right wing Christian, conspiracy theory and other nutjob microparties eager to get their 30 pieces of silver from the AEC as they race headlong for the bottom.

You may remember that the party leader and Catch the Fire Ministries extremist cleric Danny Nalliah said among other crazy statements that Victoria’s abortion laws were the cause of the Black Saturday bushfires.

Here are a couple of their candidates. The rest of them are cut from the same xenophobic Christian exceptionalist cloth.

This one is a “Bible teacher”.

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IPSWICH Muslims have defended their faith in the wake of Rise Up Australia Party candidate Anthony Mackin’s calls to eradicate mosques and ban the burka.

Mr Mackin, a bible teacher, is the Blair candidate for a party that has banning the burka as one of its key policies.

In an interview with The QT yesterday, Mr Mackin explained why he was opposed to burkas.

“Part of the problem is the obvious one, that you can’t identify who is underneath it,” he said.

“I’ve seen recently on the internet that there have been suicide bombers disguising themselves in burkas.

“When we go into a petrol station the first thing a motorcyclist is asked to do is remove the helmet before the cashier will receive payment for the bill, for security purposes.

“Everybody is required to do this…but the people who are not assimilating to our laws and customs are not.”

Mr Mackin said his major concern was that burkas “mostly come from the Islamic religion that is aggressively non conformist”.

On mosques, Mr Mackin said “if Islam determines or decrees that it needs a mosque, then Islam has to go and the mosques have to go”.

“We’ve been told mosques are seen as militant infrastructure by the Muslims.”

The QT asked Mr Mackin if he favoured the eradication of mosques or stopping them in the future.

“Personally, I lean towards the eradication of mosques,” he said. “In order to establish a mosque we find that Muslims tend to flood an area and make it uncomfortable for locals.”

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Another loopy Queenslander, this time in PM Rudd’s seat of Griffith

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A CANDIDATE for the Prime Minister’s seat of Griffith has put outlawing the Islamic faith front and centre of her election campaign, branding it a “religion from hell” and claiming that building mosques in Australia is “high treason”.

Sherrilyn Church of the Rise Up Australia Party says her top policy priority in the election is to ban the building of mosques in the electorate, south of Brisbane.

Ms Church – a small-time citrus farmer from Crows Nest on the Darling Downs – said her primary concern for the electorate was “the Islamisation of the city by councils giving permission for mosques to be erected”.

“Basically, I see Islam not primarily a religion but a system of law because to the Islamic mind the existence of a mosque in an area means they believe that Sharia law applies and the Islamic flag must fly – now that is high treason in a sovereign nation,” she said.

“Islam is a legal system before it is a religion. We have freedom of religion but their religion is illegal.

“We are multi-ethnic, but we are not multicultural, because that’s where the law comes into it.

“The people in the mosque can be as charming and pleasant as your best Australian but there is also those elements, as you know across the world, where young men are recruited to jihadist training camps from these mosques.

“A lot of people consider it to be fine. A lot of people also consider that having gay marriage is fine.”

Ms Church, 61, said she believed the Muslim faith and democratic citizenship were fundamentally incompatible.

“This question is asked of all Australian citizens when they stand before the governor or to become citizens. They have to declare that they will come under our system of law, and our flag.

“If you’re going to say; ‘no, I’m going to hold to the laws of the Koran’, I would say `pack your bags, get on the next plane and go home’.

“Our laws are totally and utterly contrary to the law of the Koran. There are some religions that didn’t come from heaven, they come from hell.”

Ms Church’s platform has proven unpopular within the local Islamic community, which has two mosques in the Griffith electorate at Holland Park and West End.

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We are still deciphering this one:

“Islam is a legal system before it is a religion. We have freedom of religion but their religion is illegal.

“We are multi-ethnic, but we are not multicultural, because that’s where the law comes into it.

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Rise Up to ‘keep Australia Australian’ (unless you’re mentally ill)

Libs direct preferences to anti-Muslim party

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38 thoughts on “Election special No 8 – Rise Up Ratbags!

  1. Nutters. Hope they don’t get enough votes to qualify for taxpayer funding. Ironically some of which would have come from taxpaying Muslims.

  2. So what’s the function of the burka? Apart form sun protection what does it offer? I find it completely unnecessary in a place like Melbourne. I don’t think that they should wear them in the southern states of Australia. Maybe just wear a big broad brimmed hat. The arabs are kind of like us whites in that their skin is not dark, but a bit darker than ours. I reckon that whites came from arabs at one point.

    • So it’s your right to determine what clothes other people wear are necessary or not? That seems fair-do we all get to decide whether your choice of clothes are necessary or not?

  3. Well it is an issue, because I can’t hear what the lady is saying when she makes an order at the shop that I work at. It’s extremely annoying. I also find it intimidating. There is no bloody sun inside a shop FFS. That’s the only purpose of it is sun protection.

    • No, the purpose of it is modesty. And have you actually met a lot of women wearing burqas? Considering something like only 1% of the Muslim population of Australia wears one, and the Muslim population of Australia is a tiny percentage of Australia, I tend to doubt it.

      I mean, I have worked in areas with many Muslims, worked with asylum seekers and refugees for many years now, and I have literally never seen a burqa in real life. I’ve seen a few niqab’s (Though not a lot of these either), but when I’ve talked with women wearing a niqab I’ve had no problem understanding them. Most Muslim women, if they wear a headscarf at all, wear a hijab, and that would have no issue in being understood or recognised.

      • There is about 4 ladies that wear the burqa that come into my shop. I find it very intimidating and hard to understand them speak. It’s just stupid and rude. They need to fit into the mainstream culture.

        • Since when has there been a required dress code in Australia. I thought people could pretty much wear what they wanted to.

          If you don’t want to live in a country where people can wear what they want,, move to one where things are a bit more uniform

        • Have you thought about asking them to speak up? Just a suggestion. Just say “sorry, I’m having difficulty hearing you,” and have them come up with their own suggestions. I think you’ll find this is not a new event for them.

          Or instead you could call for a compulsory dress code for the entire nation, stigmatizing an entire religious community. Either or, really.

          I mean, these can’t be the only people on earth you’ve had difficulty hearing. I mean, have you met the Northern Irish. Lovely people but you need to get them to speak up, and add vowels, to understand.

          And to be clear, you saw 4 women wearing a burqa-one of these things:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

          Not one of these things, an abaya (I’ve seen a few of those), where people can be heard if they speak up, or alternatively angle their covering to allow sound to pass through. :
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaya

          Or one of these things, a niqab, again more common than a burqa, which can again be easily understood as the cloth covering the mouth tends to be very thin (saudi niqab’s often are so soft you can see the outlines of the mouth) :
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niq%C4%81b

          Or a hijab of a chador, both of which are far more common but do not obscure the mouth at all.

  4. I’ve seen exactly one niqab in my life, the Islamic community in my area seems to prefer the hijab.

    I really don’t understand how anyone can find a hijab irritating or intimidating unless you view life as a zero-sum game and view the existence of other cultures as a direct attack on your own.

    • Same, Scott. Usually I see the Chador or the Niqab (Which can be hard to distinguish both times). I think part of it is the region of the world the woman comes from. Chadors appear more popular in the middle east, hijab is the norm in SE Asia,, whereas the niqab seems to be more common in the Arab peninsula, and the Abaya more common in Africa.

      Literally have never seen a burqa. And I really doubt steven has either. It’s really a catch all term for “Muslim face covering”-which again isn’t particularly common (compared to the chador or the hijab).

    • The same thing you do with everyone else you have difficulty understanding. Are you honestly telling me it’s only been those four women you’ve had difficulty understanding at all times?

      • But she could take it off, would just make it easy. It’s the full one only see her eyes -whatever you want to call it. it’s not a very sexy look anyway.

        • I’m the least racist person, I eat sushi and malaysian takeaway, but sometimes I feel like telling them to take off their head dress. It’s norhing to do with modesty, it’s just an ancient form of sun protection, but inside the shop on my shift, it’s not on. I will ask them to remove it or leave the store next time. I’ve been patient enough.tY

        • “But she could take it off, would just make it easy.’

          So it’s easier for a woman to remove clothing for you than it is for you to say “{I’m sorry, I’m having difficulty understanding you, can you speak up?” Is that really the way you’re going with this.

          “It’s the full one only see her eyes ”

          So not the burqa then. Either the Abaya or the Niqab, but not the burqa.

          ” it’s not a very sexy look anyway.”

          Listen, I know you’re a troll and all, but anyway-that is the point. Women wear abayas and niqabs because they don’t want to be seen as a sex object.
          I mean, do you honestly believe all women have to be dressed in a way to attract you? Knowing the type of guys who like to complain about burqas they’ve never seen, they’re not exactly guys who do anything to attract women, so it’s a bit of a double standard at least.

        • “I eat sushi and malaysian takeaway,”

          Oh, the troll is trying to be funny.

          ” but sometimes I feel like telling them to take off their head dress.”

          And again, what right do you have to tell other people how to dress? Do other people get to choose your clothes for you?

          ” It’s norhing to do with modesty, it’s just an ancient form of sun protection, ”

          And again, what right do you have to say why people wear their clothes. Shouldn’t it be up to the person to choose why they’re wearing clothes? Are you going to start tearing suits off people in the middle of the city now: “That’s designed for a cold weather climate-you’re meant to be wearing shorts and a t-shirt here!”

          “but inside the shop on my shift, it’s not on. I will ask them to remove it or leave the store next time. I’ve been patient enough.tY”

          So, you have four people who regularly come to your shop, and seem to be doing pretty well for themselves-no wait. Let’s take a break here and leap in the other hole in your story.

          You have said that four women come in your shop. IT sounds like they come regularly as you say “Next time they come”-so if they are coming often, it means they are getting their business done. They are getting the items they want from you. Otherwise they wouldn’t come back, would they? Are you actually telling us that four women go to a store where they can’t be understood then return repeatedly, never being understood and never getting what they want?

          So, what’s the problem again? You say you don’t understand them, but in your story, which is becoming increasingly fake, they must have been understood, otherwise why are they continuing to come back.

          Now back to the original problem-you’re now saying you have customers who come to your store fairly regularly, presumably buying things each time (Otherwise why return), and you want to throw them out because you don’t like the fact they aren’t dressed all sexy?

          At what point in your business plan did you think it was a good idea to get rid of regular customers because you don’t like the fact they cover up their bodies?

  5. So what exactly is the problem here? Is it that you can’t understand her or that she isn’t fulfilling her role as a women to provide you with eye candy? How hard is it to ask her to speak up? Your arguments just prove you know absolutely nothing about the religion and the reason for wearing it. As for not being racist because you eat Asian take away, if that is the basis for deciding you are not racist then you really don’t understand yourself at all. By the way, will you taking a stand and asking her to leave the shop when she’s with a male or only when she is by herself?

    • If she was with a male I would obviously ask him what she is saying. I ‘m going to talk to the owner and see if we can erect a sign asking to remove any helmate, hat or head garmet. I’m yet to hear a legitimate reason to wear a head dress, it’s like wearing a hat inside. Take it off.

      • Wait, so now you’re going to ban all people wearing any headress, or hat from your store? You must be doing very well for yourself to rule out anyone who doesn’t fit into your strict dress code. Hell, I’ve yet to find any store that has a dress coe beyond: “Wear clothes-preferably not thongs”

        “If she was with a male I would obviously ask him what she is saying. ”

        So it’s nothing to do with the burqa then. Because if a guy standing next to her can understand her, so can you. It’s not like a man is going to jump in the burqa to hear what she has to say.

        So which is it-are the women impossible to understand, yet return to the same shop regularly to purchase items, presumably acceptably; or are the women able to be understood, which is why men who are with them can understand them-and you’re njust looking for a reson to complain.

        “’m yet to hear a legitimate reason to wear a head dress, ”

        Why does a person have to justify what they wear to you? You’ve yet to have a legitimate reason for why everyone has to justify their clothing to you.

    • The role of a woman is eye candy Tamara? We are talking about the role if a woman now? I don’t agree with that. I’ve said the burqa isn’t very sexy. Never said anything about the role of a woman.

  6. Please, please remember that not all Christians are like these ‘shining examples’. It’s a stereotype that society often attributes but it’s just not correct. There are plenty of tolerant, thinking Christians out there who wouldn’t vote for these guys either!

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