In Jeff’s grumpy blokey nostalgic footy world …

“In the old days when you went to a football ground, there were very few stands, there was mud on the ground – that was real football”

Jeff Kennett prayer room

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It will not just be football fans who will be able to use the rooms. Probably they will get their greatest use when cricket fans descend on the same venues. If you think about the large numbers of passionate Muslim cricket fans, both immigrants and tourists, from countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Fiji, the length of matches and Test series and the need for observant Muslims to pray five times a day then presumably the sporting governing bodies are onto something.

Canny marketing it may in fact be – most Australians actually consume most of their sport in the comfort of their homes in front of the wide screen televisions where issues like prayer times do not arise. The marketers want to get as many people as possible off the couch and into the stands.

And whatever our beliefs, do we really want to go back to the days when people sat miserably unprotected in all weathers while yobbo louts threw glass bottles and beer cans, where women were barely tolerated, where people with disabilities and mobility problems found it virtually impossible to attend their favourite teams’ games, where you wouldn’t want to take the kids because of the foul language?

So presumably Jeff rues the day when football (all codes) became :

* professional

* more family friendly

* more inclusive

And it seems most of the rest of the community has no problems with prayer rooms at the footie.

From The Australian

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In fact if you are a believer some teams need all the prayers they can get.

Just meeting demand… Cartoon: Mark Knight

So what’s Jeff’s objection really about, besides grumpy blokey nostalgia?

Elsewhere – a MUST READ

ICB: Freedom of religion vs. freedom from religion

31 thoughts on “In Jeff’s grumpy blokey nostalgic footy world …

  1. This is what I love about those crazy islamaphobes that complain about “marxism” and “communism”-stuff like this isn’t communism-it’s capitalism. The AFL isn’t doing this to make things fair and equal for all people, they’re doing it to make a profit. The same and supermarket chains including hallal meat, and some banks using sharia loans-it’s all in order to make money.

  2. Yeah, Oh yeah, why stop at prayer rooms????

    Lets have segregated stands so muslim men can sit seperately from women ( that’ll bring even more muslim fans), then we’ll ban alcolhol ( because those poor widdle Muslims don’t like It).

    After that we’ll force infidels into separate seats so those poor Muslims don’t get contaminated from the kaffir.

    After that, lets make Aussie women cover up ( we’ll start off with hijabs ) ( then later we’ll ease them into burkas)

    & no JM it isn’t capitalism, it’s craven fawning to religious Nazi’s.

    • Heh.

      The stupidity of your paranoid delusions is matched only by your complete inability to make any kind of logical point.

      “It isn’t capitalism”

      Yeah? Care to tell us why?

    • “& no JM it isn’t capitalism, it’s craven fawning to religious Nazi’s.”

      Wait, are you actually telling us, oh great Granturbator, are you actually saying that the AFL corporation is willingly spreading the Islamic empire into Australia? That this rich organisation is part of the Muslim conspiracy that you for real believe exists?

      Because here’s the choice, Gransturbator, either the AFL is willingly pushing the Muslim agenda, or they found a way to get more people to come to their games and therefore make money. Which is it? Are they conspirators that should be denounced by all patriotic Australians, or a corporation that wants to make a profit?

      Your hilarious “suggestions” of where it will lead are ridiculous because of capitalism. Here’s the thing, very few people will be stopping going to an AFL game because of prayer rooms (Largely because if people don’t like them, they don’t go into them), whereas a lot of people will be going to AFL because of the prayer rooms. You can’t say that about any other of your suggestions-each of them aims to exclude people somehow.

      No, of course, I forgot, you feel excluded from a multifaith religious prayer room, which has been welcomed by Muslims, Jews and Catholics alike. How exactly can you be excluded from a prayer room welcomed by representatives of three of the significant western religions?

      But it’s not enough to just point out why your ideas are stupid, let’s delve into them one by one, so we can ask more questions that you will ignore when you realise that by stating these comments, you’ve been an idiot:

      “Lets have segregated stands so muslim men can sit seperately from women ( that’ll bring even more muslim fans), then we’ll ban alcolhol ( because those poor widdle Muslims don’t like It).”

      Universities and hospitals have had prayer rooms for decades, welcoming all religions. Please name one university which has banned alcohol, or one hospital which segregates men from women on religious grounds.

      “After that we’ll force infidels into separate seats so those poor Muslims don’t get contaminated from the kaffir.”

      Again, name me one university or hospital which has separate wards or seats for people of different religions.
      Gotta love your idea though: “AFL having prayer rooms to get more Muslims in and get a profit on ticket sales! Next thing they’ll do is ban alcohol sales-that’s what a major corporation loves to do”
      Gransturbator, do you think that the AFL corporation is controlled by the Muslims, or a willing partner in their world invasion?

      “After that, lets make Aussie women cover up ( we’ll start off with hijabs ) ( then later we’ll ease them into burkas)”

      This is particularly hilarious. Y’know why-you seem to think that the hijab is just the end stage of the burqa. Is that what you really think? That Muslim woman have a piece of cloth growing on their head that grows over time, eventually covering their entire body?

      But let’s take the slippery slope the other way. Let’s say we don’t introduce measures to encourage measures to allow Muslims to enjoy the game. But why stop there? After all, as religion has no place in sport, why not:

      -Grand Final on Christmas Day. So the Christians will hate it, but you’ll get more people at home than any other day of the year.
      -All Sunday matches to begin at 9am-Everyone else works 9-5, why shouldn’t footballers? So what if it clashes with everyone’s church service.

      Just as silly as your suggestion. Only difference is, I know these suggestions are silly. Do you honestly think that your beliefs will ever, in a million years come to pass? Do you even take yourself seriously?

        • “Do you honestly think that your beliefs will ever, in a million years come to pass? Do you even take yourself seriously?”

          “Looks like some of our beleifs have come to pass in france, with marine Le Pen securing 18% of the vote LOL.”

          Wow, 18% of the vote. You must be impressed, Grant. So impressed that you ignored the beliefs that you were actually worried about(Stuff like women being banned from football).

          Now, how well did the socialist candidate go, though? Did they get less, or more than 18%? Now, if they got more, wouldn’t that mean that there is more support for socialism in France, than Le Pen? Tell me if I’ve got my numbers wrong here.

          And stuff you’ve ignored:
          1. either the AFL is willingly pushing the Muslim agenda, or they found a way to get more people to come to their games and therefore make money. Which is it? Are they conspirators that should be denounced by all patriotic Australians, or a corporation that wants to make a profit?

          2. How exactly can you be excluded from a prayer room welcomed by representatives of three of the significant western religions?

          3. Universities and hospitals have had prayer rooms for decades, welcoming all religions. Please name one university which has banned alcohol, or one hospital which segregates men from women on religious grounds.

          4. Again, name me one university or hospital which has separate wards or seats for people of different religions.

          5. you seem to think that the hijab is just the end stage of the burqa. Is that what you really think? That Muslim woman have a piece of cloth growing on their head that grows over time, eventually covering their entire body?

        • By the way, Grant, why do far right parties claw for any foreign political party that in any way resembles their belief system to show support for thair cause? I mean, we’re Australians, not French. Your party is trying to convince Australians to vote for them, not the French. And if Australia has ever politically followed French, please tell me when (Having a government paid laundry worker for newly wed mothers would be nice), because I can’t think of any time at all (English and Americans yes, even Canadians yes, but don’t see the connection between our political history, and the French).

          It honestly, to an outsider, admittedly, seems like you’re the ugly more unpopular guy at school. But instead of looking at your glaring personality flaws, you instead say “Well, there’s someone else at another school, in another country, whose views on some things I have similar views on, and he’s much more popular than me, though not as popular as other people….so I’m still awesome”-and that just sounds sad and self-deluded, don’t you think?

    • Grant, what is “alcolhol”? You mentioned it in your moronic, spittle-flecked, rant. Why don’t you fuck off and hang with your idiotic, neo-Nazi mates, you far-Right piece of shit?

  3. Yeah, Bachar Houli is not a ‘ multicultural ambassador” he’s a Muslim shilling for special concessions for his co-religionists.

    Your multiculti shit is a tool that muslims use to spread their religion.

    • “Yeah, Bachar Houli is not a ‘ multicultural ambassador” he’s a Muslim shilling for special concessions for his co-religionists.”

      He’s a damn good footballer, and he has his religion. He’s a role model for young Muslims, showing they can be Muslim and be involved in Australian culture (There is no clearer way of being a Muslim and an Australian than being involved in the AFL).

      That’s probably why you hate him, I guess. Here’s a guy who is a role model for children, and is undeniably both Muslim and Australian-he clows your entire belief that Muslims can’t be Australian out of the water, right? How dare he challenge your beliefs by being himself? How dare he indeed!

      Grant, I’ve noticed you seem to have a need for putting people down. You called Adam Bandt an idiot, despite spending a great deal of his life helping those imprisoned by sex slavery (Which, you must agree is a noble pursuit). Now you dismiss Houli even though he’s a great footballer (3 brownmedal votes in his first year with Richmond is not to be sniffed at). And you’ve also asked people to tell them why they’re better than you.

      What’s wrong Grant? Are you not happy being yourself? Are you so dissatisfied with who you are, hate yourself and everything about you so much, you feel the need to criticise anyone who has done more than you, helped more than you, and been more than you, in the hope that you won’t feel like a bag of shit every morning?

      “Your multiculti shit is a tool that muslims use to spread their religion.”

      And your islamaphobia is the only way you can create a meaning in your life. Am I right? It makes you feel less alone, and more like you’re doing something in your life, in an easier way than, say, helping people?

      • Q: What is Islamophobia?

        A. Similar to homophobia, a word that gay activists use to silence those that question their agendas & activism. ( a word created for gay propaganda).

        Islamophobia: a word created by militant Muslims ( and their leftist enablers), to silence any criticism of Muslim religion & agendas. This also, being compliant with sharia law that does not allow criticism of the Koran, the hadith or sharia itself.

        • Grant, good on you for ignoring everything apart from one word. Keep those blinkers on, who needs peripheral vision.

          Anyway, while you’re here, let’s hear more about the gay agenda, and gay propoganda? Please elaborate on what you think is the gay agenda, and examples of it in action in propoganda.

        • And of course, it wouldn’t be a post from Grant without:

          STUFF GRANT IGNORED (Because question marks scare him-literally. Jim Carrey in Batman Forever regularly makes him shit himself):

          “Grant, I’ve noticed you seem to have a need for putting people down. You called Adam Bandt an idiot, despite spending a great deal of his life helping those imprisoned by sex slavery (Which, you must agree is a noble pursuit). Now you dismiss Houli even though he’s a great footballer (3 brownmedal votes in his first year with Richmond is not to be sniffed at). And you’ve also asked people to tell them why they’re better than you.”

          “What’s wrong Grant? Are you not happy being yourself? Are you so dissatisfied with who you are, hate yourself and everything about you so much, you feel the need to criticise anyone who has done more than you, helped more than you, and been more than you, in the hope that you won’t feel like a bag of shit every morning? “

  4. “And whatever our beliefs, do we really want to go back to the days when people sat miserably unprotected in all weathers while yobbo louts threw glass bottles and beer cans, where women were barely tolerated, where people with disabilities and mobility problems found it virtually impossible to attend their favourite teams’ games, where you wouldn’t want to take the kids because of the foul language?”

    How is any of this shit relevant?

    You & your multiculturalists are facilitating Islam & therefore intolerance.

    Because improvements have been made; therefore excuses you, kissing muslim ass does it?

    • Hey Grantturbator, polite as always.

      Anyway, the article seemed pretty clear to me. It was saying the AFL has changed from the male only, rough, unfriendly environment of yesteryear, to a time when the whole family could go together. Y’know, we’re quite lucky in Australia, AFL is one of the few sports where women are not only welcomed to join in the cheering, but are eager to attend (Most sports do not have a rough 50-50 gender split-AFL does, more or less). And isn’t it great? The game doesn’t want to exclude potential fans, it wants to get as many people as possible there, cheering for their favourite team, and some light hearted booing of their opponents.

      Now the game is trying to get even more people to come, in a way that will not exclude anyone else. Somehow you see that as the AFL trying to exclude you somehow. But hey, you also think that the AFL is part of the Islam empire trying to take over the world, so you think a lot of things.

      “You & your multiculturalists are facilitating Islam & therefore intolerance.”

      How? And how exactly is the APP, the party you support, the party that states if you aren’t white you’re not really Australian and worth less than a white person, the party of tolerance in comparison?

      Anywho- here’s the questions you forgot to answer last time you were asked (That’s how you got the name Grantsurbator):

      1-Are you telling me, Grant, that you think that certain political parties should be banned? How does free speech and demopcracy even work if parties you don’t like get banned?

      NOT ANSWERED

      2- Where exactly have I made excuses for sharia? Please tell me exactly where I’ve said it. I personally think sharia law should oeprate like any other religious law, to be considered, but never superceded by the law of the nation of Australia. Have you found me something more cotroversial than that, or are you just making stuff up?

      NOT ANSWERED

      3- How many votes did the APP get in the last federal election compared to Greens, Socialists, everybody? What about just in the last NSW election-how did they do?

      NOT ANSWERED

      4- “So Adam Bandt is a politician who responds to his constituents, and has actually spent a lot of his life trying to help the most repressed and hurt members of our society. You call him an idiot. What is it agaqin that yo’ve done, that is so good, that you get to call people who are helping people idiots? ”

      NOT ANSWERED

      5- “Oh right, you support a guy who runs into women’s toilets. Yep, that’s so much more better than supporting your constituents, or helping people escape from sex slavery. Just for the record, Grant, you think loitering in a toilet like a pervert makes you a hero, and freeing people from sex slavery makes you an idiot, correct?”

      NOT ANSWERED

      6- “Finally, he answers. But why so tardy, Grant? I’ve asked so many times “Have you ever met a Muslim” and “How has sharia effected you” and it’s taken you literally weeks to answer-why so slow? Were you unable to answer-or just had to quickly come up with an answer (Oh, actually let’s be honest here, including the sharia one it’s maybe half an answer)?

      NOT ANSWERED

      7- Great-and how were the Muslims you met? Were the yfreidnly, or frothing at the mouth and trying to kill you as soon as they met you?

      NOW ANSWERED

      8- So, just to be clear, sharia has affected you in a way that you can’t tell anyone, but definately does exist?
      I have never ever ever been threatened by Sharia despite working with, living with, and befriending Muslims. Please tell me how your situation is different.

      NOT ANSWERED

      9- Hey Grant, how do you know which verses in the Quran have been abrogated? What source do you get that from?”

      MAYBE ALMOST ANSWERED (No source mentioned)

      10- On what basis do you say the majority of Australia agrees with you, considering the majority of Australians in numerous studeis, which I have shown you, support multiculturalism, and any anti-immigration party has never gotten more than 9% of the national vote?

      NOT ANSWERED (Said you don’t believe in the study, but never presented alternative data)

      11-With some members running into women’s toilets, no support in the public sphere, what possible hope of a future does the APPhave?

      NOT ANSWERED

      • “How? And how exactly is the APP, the party you support, the party that states if you aren’t white you’re not really Australian and worth less than a white person, the party of tolerance in comparison? ”

        Which shows how little you know, with there being numerous non white actively involved with the APP.

        • Which shows how little you know:
          Darrin Hodges has said that the baby bonus should only be given to couples of a European ancestry:

          The policy of the APP is that all people descended from a non-European background should be encouraged to leave. Its one of their primary policies (Number 5 to be exact)-you did read them, didn’t you, before you joined the party? I mean, for a guy who’s so well informed, you’d actually research a party before joining up? Or was it a case of “It was either the APP or the Donner party-and the APP had fewer letters”?

          So what “non whites” are actively involved with the APP? Someone with a tan? Or someone who hasn’t realised that the APP has in its own constitution that it wants non-whites to leave?

      • “Unlike your group of intolerant tossers, Grant, the AFL is trying to be as “inclusive” of people as possible because they realise that Australia’s future and theirs “includes” all the people that live here. ”

        Inclusive? Playing sport Australian sport or otherwise doesn’t make them Australian.

        Intellectually deficient leftist propaganda.

        Being an Australian is a mindset, not an activity: and that’s what sport is: an activity.

        Unlike you, we are not interested one iota in including those who will not repudiate sharia or make constant demands of the host culture under the guise of tolerance & ‘ inclusion’ ( whatever that means). In fact; we are interested in making Muslims very uncomfortable so they can stay in their own countries thanks very much.

        Tony Abbott made a nice little speech today & it looks like your asylum bludgers days are numbered.

        Evidently you lot feel that wasting a billion dollars a year on illegal Muslim boat arrivals is ‘ compassionate’ .

        • “Inclusive? Playing sport Australian sport or otherwise doesn’t make them Australian.”

          Okay, then what does make a person Australian?

          “Being an Australian is a mindset, not an activity: and that’s what sport is: an activity.”

          Cool, so define the mindset. Because if you’re going to say Australian is “People who think like I think, and believe what I believe”-you may be shocked to find you’re confusing a country of 22 million people with yourself.

          “Unlike you, we are not interested one iota in including those who will not repudiate sharia or make constant demands of the host culture under the guise of tolerance & ‘ inclusion’ ( whatever that means).”

          Who’s “we”? You talking on behalf of all Australians again, Grant? On what basis do you think the majority of Australians are behind you?

          ” In fact; we are interested in making Muslims very uncomfortable so they can stay in their own countries thanks very much.”

          And how are you going to do that, Grant? Make them wear labels? Bomb their buildings? Make them live in different areas and get off the street when a Non-Muslim walks past?

          And what happens if the Msulims still don’t want to leave? What’s your plan then?

          “Tony Abbott made a nice little speech today & it looks like your asylum bludgers days are numbered.”

          Yes, he said a speech saying he’d go to Indonesia and “Try” to stop the boats. Yep, that’s what Grant has interpreted as saying “The asylum seekers-they’re going to be killed by Tony Abbot”
          Considering Indonesia has alrwady said they won’t be following Abbot’s policies (And senior members of Abbot’s party have told Indonesia they know that)-I wouldn’t count yuor chickens just yet.

          Evidently you lot feel that wasting a billion dollars a year on illegal Muslim boat arrivals is ‘ compassionate’ .

        • Oh, and sorry for not replying to your “billion dollars a year on Muslim illegal boat arrivals”shtick earlier. Here’s two points:

          1-As you know, asylum seekers are not illegal. It’s recognised under the UN Refugee Convention, which Australia is a signatory too. But when did the truth ever stop you?

          2- Absolutely we should be spending less money on asylum seekers. Which is why I oppose the pacific solution (Building camps, paying for transport, shipping workers over to foreign countries and bribing the foreign countries to let is happen is not a cheap way to do it) and detention centres, except when absolutely necessary, as a costly and ultimately pointless exercise.

          Will you join with me Grant in opposing detention centres and the Pacific solution? Or don’t you worry about tax dollars being spent in their billions-just care about hating and hurting Muslims (Of which not alls asylum seekefs are-especially the ones from China, or Sri Lanka). So as long as money is being spent to hurt people with a different skin colour, you’re all in favour of it.

          By the way, as I’m sure you know, asylum seekes are fleeing repressive Islamic regimes in many cases. Please tell me how it works in your head that you hate both:

          A) Cruel islamic regimes in countries such as Afghanistan and Iran
          and
          B)- People fleeing those cruel Islamic regimes from countries such as Afghanistan and Iran

          Because to me, it sounds like you’r saying “I hate the Nazis, but can’t stand the Jews”!

      • Yawn.

        1. Bullshit.
        2. Support for multiculturalism is support for Muslims & therefore also sharia.
        3. How many votes did the Socialist Alliance get compared to the CDP? Which is anti gay marriage & anti Muslim.
        4. Adam Bandt is a Marxist, I rest my case. And follows a fruitloop like Bob Brown, who makes bizarre speeches about Martians & earthlings. While leftwing journalist fuckwits continue to give this idiot a free ride. LOL, This idiot also made a speech at the National press club supporting one world government. LOL. Again the journalists sat there & said nothing.
        5. You support Muslims who believe in killing apostates: whats worse? LOL
        6. Already answered that one.
        7.Ditto.
        8.Ditto
        9.Ditto
        10. Where’ s your sources? & no I don’t believe biased reports from left wing journalists or government studies done by departments that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
        11. Emotive. Will not affect the party long term. it wasn’t a party initiative anyway.

        • Grant is back, for a third attempt at answering simple questions. Will he prove himself to be an eternal wanker, of demonstrate he’s able to answer simple questions? Let’s find out:

          “1-Are you telling me, Grant, that you think that certain political parties should be banned? How does free speech and demopcracy even work if parties you don’t like get banned?”

          1. Bullshit.

          Okay, he’s managed a word-good on him! And it almost relates to the question.
          So Grant, if you don’t have a problem with democracy, why are you so worried about “Communists” in political parties? Surely they have the same right to free speech as you?

          2-2- Where exactly have I made excuses for sharia? Please tell me exactly where I’ve said it.
          2. Support for multiculturalism is support for Muslims & therefore also sharia.

          Cool, so supporting Muslims existing means you also support sharia law taking over and replacing our law. Just like Grant, you supporting the APP means you support the murder of children. Is that right? Or a leap to an extreme? It’s fairer than your connection, because the APP is a single entity, not a large group of similar, but varied religions.

          Also, considering, as I’ve demonstrated and you’ve yet to find evidence to counter, the majority of australians support multicutluralism, are you now saying the majority of Australians support sharia?

          “3- How many votes did the APP get in the last federal election compared to Greens, Socialists, everybody? ”
          How many votes did the Socialist Alliance get compared to the CDP?

          Probably less. And how many did the CDP get compared to the Greens?
          So we go back to the original point of the question-if all Australians hate Muslims so much, hate multiculturalism so much, hate migration and brown people SOOO much, why whenever a party runs on that, they lose. They lose terribly. Why is that?
          Oh, and thanks for not actually answering the question. What’s the problem? Are you afraid to admit that the APP has always failed to get even a tiniest percentage of the votes of the Socialist Alliance?

          4″You call him an idiot. What is it agaqin that yo’ve done, that is so good, that you get to call people who are helping people idiots? ”
          “Adam Bandt is a Marxist, I rest my case.”

          How is he a Marxist? And even if he were, does that mean no matter what he does, he’s going to be a terrible person no matter what? So if a person saves your life on multiple occasions, he’s still going to be evil to you if he’s a Marxist?
          It sounds like you refuse to judge a person by their deeds, but only by their beliefs. I’m not surprised to hear this from an APP member, considering members of that party have said the following:
          -Child abuse victims who complain should be shot
          -The disabled should be executed
          -Children should be murdererd if they disagree with me
          -Aborigines should be extinct

          Without anyone complaining. So, Grant, is there any action, any belief you will not tolerate an APP member stating, and will condemn? Or is it always “You hate Muslims and lefties, so I don’t care if you rape my kids-you’re all right”?

          ” And follows a fruitloop like Bob Brown, who makes bizarre speeches about Martians & earthlings.”

          Whereas Darrin Hodges,senior figure of the APP, talks about killing kids. Which is more harmful, Grant-talking about aliens, or talking about killing kids?

          And still didn’t answer the question. What is it that YOU have done that is so good that you get to call people who actually improve the lifes of others idiots?

          “5. You support Muslims who believe in killing apostates: whats worse? LOL”

          Where have I said that? I don’t support people who kill anyone. I can say that loudly and proudly-I don’t support the murder of any person. Can you Grant? If so, maybe you shouldn’t belong to a party that likes to talk about killing kids?

          And incidentally, still didn’t answer the question:Just for the record, Grant, you think loitering in a toilet like a pervert makes you a hero, and freeing people from sex slavery makes you an idiot, correct?

          “6-9-Already answered”

          Except you didn’t. Let’s go through them all:

          Why weren’t you able to respond for so long about answering questions about how sharia has actually effected you, or whether you have met a Muslim?
          how were the Muslims you met? Were the yfreidnly, or frothing at the mouth and trying to kill you as soon as they met you?
          So, just to be clear, sharia has affected you in a way that you can’t tell anyone, but definately does exist?
          Hey Grant, how do you know which verses in the Quran have been abrogated? What source do you get that from?

          Hey-if you actually have answered those questions-then surely you can answer them again. Unless you didn’t answer them, but ignored them, hoping they’d go away, and now are trying to use a mindtrick to convince everyone else of the same.

          Grant, you’re not a Jedi. You’re just a very silly boy.

          10-“On what basis do you say the majority of Australia agrees with you, considering the majority of Australians in numerous studeis, which I have shown you, support multiculturalism, and any anti-immigration party has never gotten more than 9% of the national vote?”
          “Where’ s your sources? & no I don’t believe biased reports from left wing journalists or government studies done by departments that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.”

          So in other words “Prove me wrong-I don’t need to actually support my beliefs at all”
          Except I already have done so, Grant. I’ve presented a lot of studies showing the majority of Australians supporting multiculturalism. You have said every single one of them is biased-which is your right to do so.

          But you haven’t provided one single piece of evidence, not one piece of evidence, showing the majority of Australians oppose multiculturalism. Why not? Surely, if it’s so obvious to you that the majority of Australians are behind you, you’d have some source.

          Ask yourself this Grant, if you have no evidence of your belief, that what has convinced you?

          “11-With some members running into women’s toilets, no support in the public sphere, what possible hope of a future does the APPhave?”

          “Emotive”

          Cool, because the australian public is very forgiving when it comes to politicans running into female toilets.
          On what basis do you honestly believe the APP will ever become a significant force in Australian politics, Grant? Please be sure in your answer to point out any succesful Australian parties that have called for the murder of children?

          So, internet, Grant had a go at some of the questions, and answered, what, maybe half? Is he a wanker for all time, or just a very deluded boy-start your voting now!

  5. I don’t see what the hoopla is all about.

    So they want to build prayer rooms to get more people to attend. Fair enough! Why is this being termed as “political correctness gone mad”?

    This has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with the bottom line.

    Claiming that building prayer rooms somehow destroys the essence of sport is laughably stupid. You really have to be certain kind of arrogant to think that your nostalgia-ridden idea of ‘real’ football is the only one that’s valid.

    The whole “imposition” point is rubbish. No one is being forced to use the prayer rooms. If you’re not religious, don’t pray. Why try to stop others from doing it too?

    • Oh, but this is your response every time concessions are made, is it not?

      Earlier on in your blog:

      ” the three biggest issues in Australia are 1. Gay marriage
      2. Climate change.
      3. Asylum shoppers.

      Well Sonny Jim, Muslims don’t want gay marriage

      So you support a rising Muslim proletariate; plus gay marriage do you? All at the same time?

      • It’s not a “concession”, it’s a service.

        The rest of your comment is just BS and standard paranoid delusions. Rising Muslim Proletariat. For god’s sake. 🙄

      • Grant, you’re deluded because you’re a member of a far right party that literally picks fights over whether it’s okay to kill kids, or whether or not Jews should be dealt with in Australia before or after Muslims are dealt with (Ah, the AFP and APP-literally their only difference politically, yet they hate each other more than cats and dogs).

        Here’s how the real world operates. In the real world, we realise it will be rare if ever that we share 100% of beliefs with other people. So we don’t. We agree with some people on some topics and other people on others.

        So if Muslims don’t want gay marriage, we disagree with them on that. However, if they want to exist, we think tha’ts okay. Existing is pretty much a basic right in Australia.

  6. I’d like to know when was the last time Grant went to an AFL match?

    If it was recently he would know that there are already large sections of the ground where alcohol is banned which encourages families to attend. This is so young kids don’t have to listen to drunk people swearing and carrying on. I know because I like to have a beer with my mates away from these sections and occasionally give an umpire a mouthful.

    The push to have prayer rooms is not only coming from one individual. The clubs want the AFL to make the grounds as supporter friendly as possible. Why? Because it means more club members and that means more dollars through their doors thus allowing the clubs to be more financially viable. This is especially important for clubs like Western Bulldogs, Melbourne and North Melbourne. Families are the key to this and that’s why the clubs and players work their butts off to attract families with things like family days, special kids clubs and especially thanking the kids after games by handing out footballs and signing autographs. It’s not only a matter of memberships but also merchandise, kids love it. Jerseys, hats, scarfs, footballs, posters and the list goes on and on. A happy family of supporters, even Muslim supporters are going to buy a hell of a lot more of it than your average single guy.

    This is nothing new for the AFL as it has been at the forefront of initiatives to encourage all people to attend games. Some current and permanent initiatives are, Women’s round and Dreamtime at the G.

    http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=78066
    http://www.afl.com.au/dreamtimeattheg/tabid/14346/default.aspx

    Unlike your group of intolerant tossers, Grant, the AFL is trying to be as “inclusive” of people as possible because they realise that Australia’s future and theirs “includes” all the people that live here.

    On a side note, Jeff Kennett should shut his great hole and stick to commenting on things that involve Hawthorn only. Anything else that comes out of his mouth is just plain bullshit!
    And if you think Houli’s good wait until North Melbourne’s Somali born rookie Majak Daw get’s a game, he is a gun and a perfect example as to why kids from all backgrounds should be encouraged to participate and follow sport in Australia.

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