104 thoughts on “Ah Nothing Like A Good Rumour to Get the People Angry

  1. Key point, our old age pensioners DESERVE benefits in their own country!
    So-called “refugees”/illegal immigrants do NOT!
    You’re glossing over the fact, typically, that foreigners ARE getting handouts in our country.

    Next point, though it IS indeed a serious problem, the “refugees” are not the most serious issue. Worse, are the “legal” immigrants that outnumber them each month by the ten’s of thousands.

    Don’t try and dazzle with contrived statistics, to try and cover the (glaringly obvious) fact that massive numbers of foreign groups are coming here.

    • Every living human being has an inalienable human right to claim refugee status. Every nation that has signed the UN convention on refugees is obliged to give refuge to refugees. Old age pensions are paid by taxpayers. migrants pay tax on top of contributing to our economic productivity by filling labour shortages. with an aging population and a declining tax base to fund their retirement increasing immigration is sensible. first generation are renowned for their work ethic. they start businesses and increasing demand for imports and exports with their country of origin. Adult migrants become instantly productive members of society and cost nothing to in terms of resources to train and develop. This is why every economist in the universe favours increasing immigration. This is to say nothing of the way multiculturalism enriches our society. I would rather live next door to a family of decent, law abiding migrants than a family of true blue aussie bogans.

    • I hate this shit, it assumes there’s some sort of causation between the entitlements for pensioners and that of immigrants/ refugees and asylum seekers. Rednecks eat it up because they can contrive images in their heads of greasy arab men with beady eyes and crooked teeth taking money out of the purses of lonely war widows. Something to help fuel their fear and hate.
      Its similar the the conclusions people jump to regarding spending on correctional services versus aged care, its as though by placing two sets of stats beside each other achieves a direct link between the two. How fucking stupid are these people?
      I agree that pensioners in Australia just simply aren’t being taken care of. We have responsibilities to these people and the resources to ensure they’re able to achieve an appropriate standard of living. But, to say that Aussie pensioners are disadvantaged because their funding is going to immigrants and asylum seekers is a huge leap in logic and monumentally fucking ignorant. All this wrath about the dick in the arse that our oldies are getting needs to be directed squarely at the upper/middle class white men that formulate the budgets and direct spending. Not on some poor cunt that wants nothing more than a better life for his family.
      Fuck you all and your numbers, your stats and comparisons; we’re talking about real people with the same rights and the same value us you.

    • Although it is demonstrated fact that the above email is a hoax. That pensioners get benefits – by definition pensioners are beneficiaries of state allowances. Refugees ‘ARE’ getting handouts? Come on scott, show us some statistics?
      BTW there are some legal migrants that are a problem. Boers and White South Africans. They ruined their own country and now are coming to us to continue polluting our culture with their racist doctrines. Hey Scott why don’t we unite to send the Boers home!

    • “You’re glossing over the fact, typically, that foreigners ARE getting handouts in our country.”
      You do know that there are also people who were born in the country who receive handouts too?

    • Agreed, nick. There was a piece in my local paper not long ago which reported that (a) a local health care facility was underfunded, and (b) a professor at the local uni got a grant to study history. The trashmedia hounded this guy because he won a grant in his field, as though it was somehow his fault that the healthcare facility didn’t have enough money. That’s REALLY how these people think.

      • For sure, the poor prick would’ve been hung out to dry because of ignorant assumptions. Unfortunately with very little accountability in the media they can afford to play all sides. You’ll be put on show for being racist but in the next segment we’ll show you how immigrants and refugees are destroying your home…. Its eaten up by hillbillies and xenophobes who love using it to spread their vile diatribe.

  2. Happy (posthumous) Birthday, to Thomas Edison! A true and absolute genius, responsible for many of the things that you take for granted, and another of those great men that certain twits now refer to as an “anti-semite”.
    In other words, he was right.

  3. Well, you know how you remedy that, Samuel?
    OPEN YOUR EYES!

    Funny how you tag yourself as “Wombat”…seeing as how they don’t possess very good eyesight, and prefer to hide underground.

    Many times in recent months I have seen Africans driving around Melbourne’s suburbs in cars and 4-wheel drives that most Australians wouldn’t easily have the opportunity to.

    Not to mention the Asian and Indian, ahem, “economic refugees” getting around in the likes of top range Mercedes Benz’s.

    Flashy cars, or not, anyway, isn’t the issue.
    It is massive numbers of foreign races and nationalities arriving in our country.
    A situation throughout the entirety of human history that only came about as a result of suffering military defeat.
    Now though, for no good reason, a great race and civilisation is expected to “tolerate” such offense, dissolution, and subjugation, without chance to fight back.

    It’s about identity, posterity, numbers, and the future, Samuel.

    So open your eyes and pull your head out of the dirt.

    • Assuming you actually did see what you claim to see. Not all Africans are refugees, they very well could be skilled migrants who brought their money with them (yes there are rich africans) and the same goes for the Asians and Indians you mentioned. Alternativly they may have been born and raised here or do you go up to every non-white person you see and ask them if they were born here and if they are a refugee.

      I have volunteered helping refugees gain their drives licenses and not one person I worked with had a flashy car, most didn’t have a car and used old excel to learn in.

    • It’s plainly a fucking conspiracy! I think they’re just here to drive luxury cars, earn our currency and fuck our women…. Fool was I, believing these people are simply seeking a better, safer and more hopeful way of life.
      You, like so many people who drivel rubbish on both sides of this blog, have attempted to form an opinion based on, well fuck all. Your assumptions and leaps of logic would be funny if they weren’t so dangerous.

      I suppose my biggest question would be; who the fuck are you, and what do you think you’re protecting? Really dude, when did you look in the mirror and determine that you are of more value to my country than any of these people? And how did you reach that conclusion? Skin colour, education standard, place of birth? Maybe having english as a 1st language gives you a leg up…
      Your entire post is offensive, what great race are you talking about? Are you talking about Australia? Y’know founded by immigrants, flourished on the back of imported labour, fair-go-for-all Australia… You mustn’t be, because I’m not familiar with the dissolution and subjugation your talking about. Nor is Australia somehow being targetted by this invasion of poor, scared needy people as your warped mind suggests.

      Now I’m ranting like all you other mouthy wankers, in short Scott your a wanker of catastrophic proportions. Your posterity isn’t at risk, your society will not disintegrate and whatever identity you trying to protect is embarassing the nation you believe your making stronger. Kindly open your eyes and pull your head out’ve your arse

  4. Just got back from down the street doing the shopping. At the counter at IGA I was treated to Jeff Kennett on the cover of the Herald-Sun advocating that Australia should change it’s national anthem.

    I said to the women serving how outrageous this is, she heartily agreed, and then showed me further pages in the paper discussing the funding our government is granting to Islamic schools here.
    We both agreed, this country is headed for a total disaster unless stopped.
    Some turn a blind eye to this, while others, worse, seem to urge it on!

    Could you IMAGINE the reaction if you went to any other country in the world and demanded that they change their national day? Demand that they change their flag? Demand that they change their national anthem?

    It would be machettes or machine guns!

    I know full well why multicultist racial-replacementists want to discard the Australian national anthem!
    For the complete anthem STRESSES the entirely British foundation, character, and spirit of Australia!

    • There’s nothing wrong with our anthem…

      ‘For those who’ve come across the seas, we’ve boundless plains to share’

      However, as far as the flag goes there’s a good argument there. We have another country’s flag on it! It’s not so much ‘true blue Aussie’ as ‘We were founded by an empire who’ve had no control over us in a long time and really don’t deserve to be on our flag’.

      • You do realise the original lyrics of the anthem were;

        ‘For loyal sons beyond the seas, we’ve boundless plains to share’

        Taken in the context of the rest of the anthem, this clearly meant we’ve boundless plains to share with loyal sons of Britain; English, Irish, Scotish and Welsh immigrants.

      • @ smash the left: do you realise that it’s not the nineteenth century anymore? your attitude is as out of date as the horse and cart. feel free to evolve.

      • Do you know about the other verses of the anthem? The ones that basically just ramble about England and James Cook? There’s a reason they were cut.

      • Quote Jess: “…who’ve had no control over us in a long time and really don’t deserve to be on our flag’

        The union flag deserves to be there imo honey – don’t forget, WE ARE STILL UNDER THE FLAG, and if you think that this is only on paper, think again (ie look under commonwealth legislation and you’ll see just how much we are still tied to our mother county)

      • Quote TAB: “So will we ever become Australia and not just England no.2?”

        Always Australian but we must remember where we came from, and more importantly, what we fought/ fight for:

        “For those who’ve come across the seas
        We’ve boundless plains to share;
        With courage let us all combine

        To Advance Australia Fair.”

      • Quote TAB: ” I believe that allowing Australia to become a Republic and move away from being England is a good way to advance Australia.”

        🙂 I don’t know what the future for our beautiful country holds. Whether our past history with England will continue … or fade. One thing I do know is that my forefathers did not fight for a racist, sexist or faschist ‘democracy’ here in Australia regardless of what others may claim.

        And we’re not in isolation either from my understanding. I’m sure the Welsh, Scottish and Irish (northern Ireland) would love to break away from the crown too.

        But that’s a whole and different story 🙂

        • “One thing I do know is that my forefathers did not fight for a racist, sexist or faschist ‘democracy’ here in Australia regardless of what others may claim.”

          Amen. A-fucking-men.

    • I could have a field day with everyone of your posts dude… The anthem isn’t exactly steeped in tradition, its only been official since the 80’s for fuck sake. Its not Un-Australian to want to change it, maybe we could find a tune with some sort of relevance to our home?
      An entirely British foundation? What fucking history are you reading?

    • Scott the world has changed and you need to add more to it then being born white. I understand that your angry about this, but it’s time to add more to society then white skin. While your sitting at home angry that white power is no more, people from different cultures are bettering themselves. Stop blaming others because your to consumed with anger and bitterness to put the effort into making your life better.

  5. You only have to see the amount of bloody sudos and indians driving around in flash cars here to realize that refugees get more handouts than average Aussies . Cut payments to the refugees and give them to our elderly pensioners , they worked hard for this country and paid taxes all thier life and now have to struggle , what have the Indians and suds given this great nation ? Nothing !!!!

  6. “…driving around in flash cars here”

    Ah now that would be PROFESSIONALS like doctors who can afford flash cars. Just like white doctors do. Doctors and other professionals are sourced through the Skilled Immigration programme. They come here by plane because they usually are not refugees fleeing certain death, and they go straight into jobs. And yes, some do come from Africa these days. They speak English and have often been trained in the UK or US.

    So why do you think they shouldn’t be able to buy “flash cars”? Because you can’t afford one on Centrelink sit-down money?

    Newly arrived refugees usually have only the clothes on their backs. They often are highly qualified in their own countries however, and once granted residency, often manage to do the gap training necessary for them to be able to practice their professions in Australia.

    Refugees are keen to work hard, provide for their families and learn English. They will often in the short-term eagerly take jobs that others will not do. They don’t spend much time in the job-seeker queues.

    Home ownership amongst aged pensioners is very high, as it is with refugees and recent immigrants. Pensioners are also thrifty savers for the most part. The pensioners I know run cars, regularly take holidays and eat well.

    There are some pensioners who struggle, single pensioners in particular or those with chronic health problems. And the supply of suitable public housing lags well behind demand because of 12 years of neglect from the Howard Government.

    However snatching benefits from one disadvantaged group in the erroneous belief that they can then be handed to another is something which could only originate in the warped brains of racists and bigots.

    Apart from the crass stupidity of your argument, the needs of both groups are different.

    • I’m a small business owner Josh and not a centrelink recipient , and no the sudenese in the flash cars are not doctors , of all the sudonese in Toowoomba , less than 1percent are employed , facts which have been printed in the local paper . More than 1 percent of them are driving new flash cars mate, come and have a look for yourself , get out from your upperclass digs and see the real Australia

      • @TGW, not on your life , I hire Australians who deserve a job and work hard , always have and always will , as do all of the businesses situated around me . Jobs for Aussies only, and I’m middle class mate and proud of it .

      • >bogans in your town (sorry, “the real australia”) only hire “aussies”
        >complain that brown people never get jobs

        keeps getting funnier

      • Here in Melbourne we have the most refugees from Sudan. I don’t think I’ve ever seen any Sudanese driving a ‘flash’ car, unless you count a thirty year old Merc as being ‘flash’?

  7. Whether or not refugees receive a greater centrelink allowance than aged pensioners, or vice versa is inconsequential. Australia should withdraw from the 1951 Convention relating to the status of refugees, and encourage refugees residing in Australia to return to their homeland if it is safe for them to do so, or to migrate to another country willing to accept them.

    On an unrelated note, did anyone else notice the bourgeois liberal Kennett’s call to change the national anthem? For once I agree with him, we should consider replacing the lame lyrics of our current anthem with the original lyrics penned in 1879.

    …” From England soil and Fatherland, Scotia and Erin fair,
    Let all combine with heart and hand, To advance Australia fair.”

    “Should foreign foe e’er sight our coast. Or dare a foot to land.
    We’ll rouse to arms like sires of yore, To guard our native strand.
    Britannia then shall surely know, Though oceans roll between
    Her sons in fair Australia’s land, Still keep their courage green.”…

  8. Good on you ‘Smash The Left’.
    You’re one who knows our national anthem.

    It’s a crying shame that some people ignore it, and that many have been led to a point at which they are dismally unaware of it and it’s message at all!

    Reacquaintance with the true spirit of our national anthem will lead to a reawakening of our true national spirit. It’s time to have the song known again, in full!

  9. Hey Josh, a few individual foreign professionals and their families is quite alright, and was actually the situation here in Australia not long ago.

    What’s going on now is totally different.

    You hit one thing on the head, one thing. That is that the large scale refugee/immigrant groups coming here now are keen to provide for THEIR OWN families and national/ethnic/cultural community!
    This notion by foolhardy leftists that refugees are “keen to work hard” is NOT born out by any evidence. If they were so keen to work hard then their own countries would be a success and they would not have to take “refuge” in ours.
    These ‘refugees’ find an easy target, that they are now welcomed into to feed off like parasites.
    Nowadays most refugees and immigrants here are NOT eager to learn English either!
    They are not encouraged to either, by an arrogant ‘multi-cultural’ policy which encourages “diversity”.
    In which silly liberals think having a barrage of alien languages spoken around you in your own country makes life “interesting”.
    As larger ethnic groups grow here, under the auspices of a “multi-cultural” policy, we see less and less adherence to English…only, perhaps, for it to be used when absolutely necessary.

    I was speaking to a Singaporean woman who has been in Australia for 8 years recently. She’s noticed the dramatic difference to the country she came to in less than five years. She works in a major shopping centre and was actually quite openly angry about the amount of people she interacts here now that do NOT or will NOT speak English!

    The importation of massive amounts of foreign races IS A TOTAL INSULT TO AUSTRALIAN PENSIONERS, IS AN ABSOLUTE INSULT TO THAT GENERATION OF AUSTRALIANS, who have worked hard their whole lives, often served this country, often struggled, cherished their people and country, who wish to see their descendents carry it on, yet who now in their autumn years see it being given away to foreign nations.

    Such a total insult, what is going on.

    It’s got to be stopped, now.

    • Right- as if a Singaporean woman, who I assume had been exposed to English, Malay and Mandarin, if not a number of other dialects whilst growing up would be worried about non-English speakers.

      However, your ability to create alter-egos and projections would be useful for psychic warfare. Please report to the ASIO Psychic Force unit ASAP.

      Rudolf Belka,
      Maestro of Psychic Powers

      • Rudolf, Snotty loves to make up fantasies to go with his fantasy love life. The only Singaporean woman he would encounter would be the one at hotasianchicks.com

        You sure you shouldn’t be directing him to the Psycho Force Unit? That would be more appropriate in his case. He could sit and stare at the goats.

      • Love your style dude, there’s nothing like an enormous leap in logic to help a rednecks story along. This guy has an impressive knowledge of the motivations of asylum seekers, he must know them all personally. Adding the bit about the non-european woman’s view is a nice twist, it gives the whole post a much more genuine air… almost

      • Net overseas migration to Australia has been running in the hundreds of thousands for the last decade, and was close to 300,000 in 2009. I would describe that as large scale immigration. I guess in your safe, largely white, upper middle class suburb you don’t the ethnic cleansing of European Australians that’s going on, you dog.

      • John, the racist believes it has the monopoly on the ‘real Australia’. It seriously thinks every single white Australian in the suburbs thinks the way it does. Anyone who disagrees must be super-wealthy or one of them dang dirty uni students from Melbourne, lol.

    • Scott,
      Should the said Singaporean woman be alerted? that you wank to internet pictures resembling her?
      Wonder what reaction she’ll have to that? 🙂

  10. It’s very amusing to read Scott’s comment on Refugees driving flash cars, and having nice things. My parents were refugees came here over 20 years ago, i was born and raised here in Australia playing backyard cricket with the wheelie bins as stumps, riding bikes until the street lights turned on, playing footy in winter. My parents worked hard to give me an opportunity to succeed in this wonderful country, but i only laugh at the ‘Skips’ or ‘Whiteys’ who always complain about why are the Asians or Africans or other Refugees driving nice cars or have big houses, guess what buddy because our parents work their asses off so that they can support their children to go school and get a proper education and most importantly finish year 12 which most of the bogans don’t ever reach because they bloody find reading and writing too hard. Refugees are high achievers that’s why the second generation have nice houses and nice cars because they achieved academically and socially, have high earning careers. Advice to the bogans many of them in Melton where u are currently livign Scotty, stay in school work hard and one day maybe one day you can drive a nice Merc or Bemma, instead of your done up Excels.
    Suck it up princess.

  11. Rudolf_Belka: “These ideas sounds remarkably familiar to what came up in Japan during the 1920s and 30s…”

    Don’t you mean Germany?

    Yawn.

    Nationalism is universal.
    Universalism isn’t.

    “as if a Singaporean woman would be worried about non-English speakers.”

    I love you guys just presume immigrants must have *no problem* with any other immigrants!

    A Singaporean woman might be just as annoyed at people not speaking English as Australians are.
    A society can’t function without a shared language.

    “Rudolf Belka,
    Maestro of Psychic Powers”

    What am I thinking right now?

    • I do mean Japan, shonky.

      The Japanese Showa government edged towards the imperialist supremacy ideology during the 1920s and 1930s taking over the government.

      Well I would assume a Singaporean would be exposed to it (multiple languages) growing up in the country.

      My title Maestro of Psychic Powers is just something I made up on the spot because I have a sense of fun.

      • You would think a ‘real aussie’ would know something about this history considering what happened between Japan and Australia.

        But that’s the usual case with the rednecks; scratch beneath the stickers, tats and utes and they don’t really know anything about our history, laws, anything. Just “aussie pride mate”.

    • I wasn’t referring to you, I was replying to John Citizen. Irony much? TAB is dedicated to a stereotype; the uneducated, unemployed, misogynist, ignorant, racist, Anglo bogan. But let me guess, it’s ok to stereotype the wrong kind of whites? Or this stereotype actually exists?

  12. No Rudolf. No Josh. Not fantasy scenarios.
    Rea; life situations and experiences.
    We that oppose immigration, multi-culturalism, and racial dissolution do not have to lie to get our point across.
    Unlike leftists, liberals, and assorted multicultists who lie as a matter of course, who lie as a habit, who wouldn’t be able to make out the truth if they tried.

    You’re the ones living in a fantasy, you’re the ones toying with contrived statistics so as to try and make people believe that what is happening – and what you at any other time brag is happening – somehow isn’t happening.

    All liberals are liars.
    For everything you promulgate is based on lies and deceit.

    I relay genuine events, and meetings with genuins people.
    And real life in this damned multi-racial farce you’re so keen on is NOT going well!

    • The only thing genuine about you is that you dont like humans that dont bear some resemblance to you. You will crap on line after line to convince strangers that your “wisdom” is not coming purely from a place of hate. Who do you need to convince? I think you need to convince yourself. You put people in groups and refuse to believe that any individual is different from another of their “kind”.
      So what if you got your all white peice of dirt. What then? Turn on each other. Thats right. Then there would be those stinkin southerners or the dirty northerners or what about those scumbags from the west. They are the worst of them all. Hey! That guy has a birthmark on his knee! Destroy him or the free land we live in is doomed. If you turn your back for one second they will knife you and steal all of you clothes pegs.

      • I must have missed the Australian civil war from 1901 until the 1970’s when we had our “all white peice (sic) of dirt”.

        “You put people in groups and refuse to believe that any individual is different from another of their “kind”.”

        And leftist refuse to believe that groups of people exist, except of course when it comes to punish whites for historical ‘wrongs’.

      • If you believe that australia was all white from 1901- the 1970’s then you really are stupider than I thought (I didn’t think that was possible).

  13. ‘Embrace’? Keep your cold embrace of death!
    We Australians do NOT have to embrace or “suck up” anything that we do not have to.

    We did not ask for any of this, we do not have to embrace it.
    We have had our right to integrity of identity and sovereignty hijacked from us, we do NOT have to “suck it up”.

    Take your foul, racist, loathesome, “skip” shit, take your nonsense, TO Africa or elsewhere…tell THEM to embrace masses of foreign races in their countries…tell them to “suck it up”…and see how long it is until you’ve got a burning tire around your neck.

    We do NOT have to “suck up” our own devestation and destruction.

    • perhaps you’d be more comfortable in a backward and insular society. i don’t think you understand that our economy is reliant on immigration and to stop it would be catastrophic. I’m australian and I AM asking for increased immigration and greater cultural diversity.

    • Hate to tell you buddy but it seems as if you do need to ‘suck it up’… Have you heard of evolution? Its more than just fish growing feet… You may not be full bottle on evolution seeing your clearly genetically atavistic. But I’ll try and walk you through it…
      Now this may come as a shock to you, so put your banjo down and listen in, there’s some things a few of us want you to know;
      -you are NOT the majority
      -you DO NOT speak for us
      -we DO NOT share your values
      -you ARE an embarrassment to my country

      What you represent is an angry and frightened section of the population that somehow missed out on the basic tools of humanity. Hold on to your fear and loathing, just do it under your rock while your cosy with your sister…. If there are any parts of this post you don’t understand, let me know, I’ll send you a finger painting…

  14. Japan, Rudolf…and Germany, and EVERY other nation on Earth! In the 30’s…and for all times before, and after, that.

    Many now, including Japan still, and Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, and SO many others.

    Practice their RIGHT to national sovereignty, to Nationalism!

    Australia’s nationalism was (and is!) our right! Our absolute right. It MADE this nation great! It is our birthright to still enjoy and pursue it now!

  15. Those of us taking a stance against mass immigration/multi-culturalism/multi-racialism never have to tell a lie about anything.
    For it is plainly, evidently, and clearly so entirely wrong.

    I simply relay notes from the front.

  16. TGW said “our economy is reliant on immigration”

    Then there’s something wrong with our education system.
    How come Third World countries can train their people, but we can’t?

    “and to stop it would be catastrophic.”

    If we do need skilled immigrants, we certainly don’t need unskilled ones, and they make up one third of it.

    And skilled immigrants don’t have to be “multicultural/multiracial”.
    If we can steal doctors from Malaysia and India, why not from Sweden or France, countries must more similar to our own?

    HURRDURR said “legal immigrants are mostly white.”

    Get up to date.
    In the last 5 years, Whites have only accounted for about a third.

    John Citizen said “the large scale refugee/immigrant groups coming here now”.
    Large scale, you must be joking.”

    Scott said “refugee/immigrant” not “refugee only”.
    Total non-White immigrants is over 100,000 per year.

    Non-White immigrants from just the last five years would have *filled* the entire cities of Darwin, Launceston, Albury-Wodonga, Ballarat and Bendigo.

    • “TGW said “our economy is reliant on immigration”

      Then there’s something wrong with our education system.
      How come Third World countries can train their people, but we can’t?”

      Our education system is just fine. Our total fertility rate however is not, being below replacement level. Our economy relies on immigration because we are not producing enough new people naturally and as such we need to get more economically productive people from elsewhere to mitigate the deficit.

    • Why can’t we train our own people? Actually that’s quite the mystery. Why are our Medicine courses so full of East and South Asian people anyway? Couldn’t be because bogans are lazy anti-intellectuals who want everything handed to them by ‘da gubbmint’, right? Must be another liberal conspiracy, lol.

  17. I say every country in the world should just have open borders. Let everyone move around freely. In fact, we should send our own sea-worthy boats to countries that are less fortunate than us (95% of countries), with a big sign on it saying ‘AUSTRALIA’. Why do we even have an immigration department? We should abolish it and people just rock up and leave when they want. Awesome idea hey guys? Can’t see how any bad could come from that. I’m going to go roll out the welcome mat now.

  18. Ben said “Our education system is just fine. Our total fertility rate however is not, being below replacement level.”

    Replacement bullcarp.

    Human labour is being increasingly mechanised and computerised.
    You would only need the same amount of human labour *if* the need remained constant.
    But its not, its falling.
    So we actually need fewer and fewer workers every year.

    “Our economy relies on immigration because we are not producing enough new people naturally”

    Immigrants reflect the same age range as locals, so do not help “en-youth” the population.
    The only way to do that would be encouraging large numbers of *children* to migrate.
    What about all those Romanian orphans?
    How about we extend our generous, humanitarian hands their way.
    They’d solve the baby crisis and be grateful for the opportunity to have a better life.

    “and as such we need to get more economically productive people from elsewhere”.
    So why are unskilled immigrants allowed at all?
    They’re currently over one third of the total.

    • i’d just like to add that ‘mechanised and computerised’ equipment still requires operators. and you know when businesses implement these solutions? when production increases, making the business grow and hire more staff.

    • Snotty the demographer wrote:

      “Human labour is being increasingly mechanised and computerised.”

      Good luck Snott with your mechanised robot doctor, dentist, nurse, aged care worker, IT professional, engineer…

  19. Will S said “You would think a ‘real aussie’ would know something about this history considering what happened between Japan and Australia.”

    The rednosed reindeer said nothing about “Japan and Australia”.
    Just Japan’s own internal ideology.

    I’m well aware of what happened “between” Japan and Australia.
    And Japan and China.
    Japan and Korea.
    Japan and Russia.

    Japan’s “nationalism” was nothing new.
    Nor is it unique to Japan.

    “they don’t really know anything about our history, laws, anything.”

    Well, apparently it doesn’t matter anyway, because we’re a brand new “improved” Australia, so who needs history?

    • Apparently not you, lol. Where do you think the conflict between Japan and Australia came from?

      hint: it wasn’t from Japan becoming an open and democratic society, lol.

  20. Will S said “Why can’t we train our own people? Actually that’s quite the mystery.”

    It sure is!

    “Why are our Medicine courses so full of East and South Asian people anyway? Couldn’t be because bogans are lazy anti-intellectuals who want everything handed to them by ‘da gubbmint’, right? Must be another liberal conspiracy, lol.”

    Bogans?
    No, native-born Australians.

    Who somehow *used to* fill these courses, and all those other jobs you claim “Australians won’t do”.

    Australians *used to* do all these things, so is it really Australians who have changed, or just government and business policies?

    Gov and biz hire and train more “coloured” people because they’re afraid to say “no” to any of them, lest they get SUED.

    They also want to “prove” how non-discriminatory they are, by showing off all the coloured faces in their graduating class/employee of the month photos.

    We’re not greedy, ruthless, power-mad arseholes, see how enlightened and sophisticated we are!

    Say no to White applicants, however, and nobody will notice.
    (cricket, cricket)

    White Australians will also not be treated like slaves by their employers.
    Employers know this.

    So they choose the coloured applicant, who won’t join a union, doesn’t know what his rights are, and can afford to work for $2.37 an hour because he shares a two-bedroom flat with 17 other people.

  21. Haha thank god TAB friends opinion is a minority. These guys are living in a fantasy world. A world where people from all countries and religions can all live together in peace and harmony. If you guys are so good with history, even a high school kid can tell you that this has never happened in the history of the earth. Even aboriginals had tribes with boundaries, and fought if these boundaries were threatened. War between countries, religions, states and tribes has been going on forever. The majority of these wars were fought to protect borders. We are so lucky to live in Australia. Since we have lived in this developed nation we call Australia, never have we had to deal with a mass invasion by anothert country. All we want to do is protect our borders. By all means, there is room for migrants, but let’s keep it under control shall we. Thank god TAB friends are just a voiceless minority.

    • Nothing wrong with wanting to protect a country’s borders from other countries who want to invade. I’ve seen no evidence that Australia’s immigration plan encourages other country’s to ‘take over’.

  22. nick0333 said “Have you heard of evolution?”

    Have you?
    Because human have existed in several geographically dispersed populations for tens-of-thousands of years.
    Not long enough to create new species,but definitely long enough to create recognisably distinct populations, who have every right to maintain those distinctions.

    “But I’ll try and walk you through it…
    Now this may come as a shock to you, so put your banjo down and listen in, there’s some things a few of us want you to know;
    -you are NOT the majority
    -you DO NOT speak for us
    -we DO NOT share your values
    -you ARE an embarrassment to my country
    If there are any parts of this post you don’t understand, let me know”

    WTF does any of that have to do with “evolution”?

    If *you* knew anything about evolution, you’d know that our brains are hardwired in certain ways that have nothing to do with this week’s hip trend in sociology.
    You’d know that our bodies create a “fight-or-flight” stress reaction when encountering the new and unfamiliar.
    That more brain power is used in facial recognition than probably any other thought process.
    Brain sees “unfamiliar” face = stress reaction. The more “unfamiliar” looking the greater the stress.

    Here we go, walking down a Sydney street.
    Oh, I feel so good today, I think I’ll ARRRGGGH.
    Brain sees “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
    Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction

    Think I’ll go home.

    • “Here we go, walking down a Sydney street.
      Oh, I feel so good today, I think I’ll ARRRGGGH.
      Brain sees “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction
      Brain sees another “very unfamiliar” face = stress reaction

      Think I’ll go home.”

      Diagnosis: Lack of frontal lobe development!

      If you had a brain you’d realise that human brain doesn’t work like that.

  23. HURRDURR: “i’d just like to add that ‘mechanised and computerised’ equipment still requires operators.”

    Thanks for sharing.

    “and you know when businesses implement these solutions? when production increases, making the business grow and hire more staff.”

    Not for the jobs that were mechanised.
    They’re gone forever.

    Then end result is still the same, no matter how much growth there is (and there is no *infinite* growth for any industry).
    Sooner or later the new workers will be replaces by machines, and so on and so on.
    Eventually *all* labour will be mechanised,, which is why an immigration argument based on human labour is ultimately stupid and short-sighted.

    Josh “Good luck Snott [are you confusing we with Scott?] with your mechanised robot doctor, dentist, nurse, aged care worker, IT professional, engineer…”

    Yeah, cause those jobs are just sooooo beyond the capacities of computers.
    A robot/computer system couldn’t EVER be developed that could scan your body for disease, anesthetize you based on your age, sex and weight, surgically operate on your predictable body construction with precision, stitch you up, wipe your arse, and tinker with your personal computer’s bugs (linked online to robot) while you’re recovering.

    No, that could NEVER, EVER, EVER happen.

    Now, telephone operator, please patch me through to the chalkies at the stock exchange. I have a hot tip on Olivetti Typewriters.

    • automation technology (not the same as what you were talking about) replacing people is an ethical question that goes beyond race. immigration is still needed to supply skills and labour. have you not heard of the engineering shortage? (or the lack of GPs, registered nurses?)

      your argument about all labour being automated is retarded. by that same logic, you may as well lie down and die because your job will be automated. we’ll just stop importing engineers and let all production, construction and design stop while we wait for our new computerised overlords. we may as well all go and destroy our PCs as they’ll take over. don’t you have any perception of time? these developments will take a lot of money, skill and labour to get going, and a lot of this will be imported. i can’t decide if you just trolled me hard, or if you’re retarded. stick to making historical facts up or whatever it is you do (i’ll stick to trolling scott).

  24. nick0333 said “The anthem isn’t exactly steeped in tradition, its only been official since the 80′s for fuck sake.”

    Then could you guys please stop quoting it?

    “Its not Un-Australian to want to change it”

    Pur-lease!
    If I hear that “boundless plains to share” crap one more time!
    Boundless *deserts* is more like it.

    “An entirely British foundation? What fucking history are you reading?”

    Ours.

    We weren’t colonised by the International Committee of All Ethnicities.

  25. Hey Flopadelic – for someone who is such a ‘genius’ at evolution you sure are missing the point at lot – but then again, why am I not surprised?

    “nick0333 said “The anthem isn’t exactly steeped in tradition, its only been official since the 80′s for fuck sake.”

    Then could you guys please stop quoting it?”

    I think you’ll find it’s quoted because it’s current. Our anthem has evolved from God Save the [regent] for a reason – evolution.

    Same reason why it’s now “Australian’s all” and not “Australian sons”

    ““Its not Un-Australian to want to change it”

    Pur-lease!”

    ‘Pur lease’? Are you trying to rent sound effects from a cat?

    “If I hear that “boundless plains to share” crap one more time!
    Boundless *deserts* is more like it.”

    Wow – you are awesome at geography. No arable land here then apparently.

    ““An entirely British foundation? What fucking history are you reading?”

    Ours.”

    And by ‘Ours’ he means: “The Facist-Right’s Everyday Guide to Unpopular Historical Misconceptions”

    “We weren’t colonised by the International Committee of All Ethnicities.”

    He’s right here – the ICAE was far too busy colonising the magical fairy land where the unicorns graze with their president the Easter Bunny.

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