Scott’s Post

Scott, you seem to be a very active commentator on this website, so now you’ve got your own dedicated post. You can contribute as much as you like, as your presence shines light on the isolation of your views, views that are shared by few. For the sake of this post, we have divided human beings into two categories – whites and non-whites. You have done this for us already, so let’s run with that.

Australia is less than 230 years old. You’re often comparing the success and cohesion of a multicultural society (as we have now) to the success and cohesion of a white Australia seen pre 1920’s. Not only were you not alive during this period, but you’re not bothering to make the comparisons with standard of living, economic prosperity, happiness index, crime levels, health and hygiene, equal rights, technological advancement or culture between pre 1850s and post 1950s. For the sake of this post, we are looking at Australia. While we have similarities with other Western nations such as Britain and the United States, there are many reasons as to why they are incomparable in context.

You cannot compare a modern 2010 Australia with a highly multicultural population (as we have now) with a modern 2010 Australia that is purely white, as you are only assuming that you know what that would be like. You are comparing a known situation with an invented situation. And your assumptions that a purely white country would be better than what we have now are based on your opinion that white people are superior. Such a position is flawed, as white people, like all people, are rapists, drunks, pedophiles, tax evaders, criminals and violent abusers. White people, like all people, have the capacity to (and have historically proven for hundreds and thousands of years) that they care not for their fellow man, nor for their family, nor for their country, nor for their religion, nor for their place of employment, nor for their children, nor for themselves.

You may assume that this writer speaks for all white people, such is your perspective of what theantibogan represents. But we know that white people, like all people, also have the capacity to love, care for, worship, cherish, respect, help and be charitable to people they want nothing in return from. As do non-white people.

Your desire to maintain the sovereignty and culture of Australia intact by ethnically cleansing our country and then halting immigration completely is absurd, as it assumes that only white people have contributed to the entity that is Australian society and culture, and that we are somehow losing touch with our European heritage because every non-white person that enters our country has no knowledge or respect for it. You will not be able to provide any evidence of how our ties with Britain have been severed. Our Australian anthem still stands. We remain a monarchy, ruled by the Queen. We continue to share our flag with the flag of another country. We continue to use a Westminster system of democracy. Our laws haven’t changed in any way that would contradict the notion of ‘sovereignty’. We continue to live in a free society. We continue to be allied with Britain and The United States.

You keep saying that you speak for the majority of Australians, yet the handful of political parties that have promised a halt in immigration have failed miserably at the hands of democracy. There is definitely such thing as multi racial integration, but what it does is evolve what it means to be Australian. Rather than focusing on a person’s skin colour or country of ancestry as you are suggesting, we now attribute being Australian to character and behaviour. If you were an Australian 300 years ago, you had black skin. If you were an Australian 200 years ago, you were British, and most probably a criminal or the descendant of a criminal. If you were an Australian 100 years ago, you were the descendant of a migrant, and you were separated comfortably or harshly by class. If you are an Australian today, you are a person who values the fair go, cheers for the underdog, disapproves of the tall poppy, works hard, enjoys relaxing with friends and family, has Australian residency, pays Australian taxes, contributes to Australian economy, works in the Australian workforce, adheres to Australian law, realises the physical differences between men and women but understands the equality in human rights, isn’t scared of sharing an elevator with a foreigner and has an interest in sport, music and/or art. We may disagree here, but defining a person’s worth or association with something beyond their control, such as their skin colour, is completely ludicrous, especially considering that many abuse their association.

Australia is definitely an example of a functioning multicultural society. You may question random examples of criminal behaviour displayed by non-whites, but you will be refuted with evidence of criminal behaviour at the hands of whites. You may question the inability for non-whites to integrate into society, but you will be refuted with evidence of whites refusing to allow non-whites the right to even be here. You may identify anti-Australian sentiment from minorities who feel oppressed by Australians, but you will be refuted with examples of pro-Australian sentiment from all kinds of migrant backgrounds.

Racial division comes from both sides, but so does racial tolerance and celebration. You will never in this lifetime, or in any time in the future, see a white Australia. So you can choose to be a white who stands for racial acceptance and celebration, recognising the contributions that non-whites have made to our culture, our way of life, our economy, our workforce, our communities, our charities, our international reputation and our identity, or you can choose to be a white who stands for division and hatred of non-whites, desperately clinging to a period of history that you were not even a part of.

You can choose to focus on the examples of where non-whites have failed to live as a positive member of Australian society, or you can choose to focus on the examples where they have succeeded.

142 thoughts on “Scott’s Post

  1. Away from the cities, away from the rot, and by and large aroudn Australia, Australians (White/British people) are still…naturally…the majority!

    Until VERY recently in the capital cities Australians…true, White, Australians…were still obviously the majority!

    There was NO reason that it could have been, or should be, anything else!
    It’s OUR country, WE made it and populated it!

    The White Australia Policy was taken away from Australians…WITHOUT VOTE OR REFERENDUM…but that does NOT mean that instananeously Australia went from being good, White, and secure…to being a crowded, divided, violent, incoherent, multi-racial, ‘multi-cultural’ mess!

    The intake of migrans was VERY slow!

    NO sane Australian that lived through the good years of the 1970’s, 1980’s, and 1990’s would state that they lived in a multi-racial or ‘multi-cultural’ Australia!
    ALL through those good years the vast, VAST majority of the population remained naturally and logically WHITE!

    No migrant that came here then thinks they came to a multi-racial or “multi-cultural” mess! They KNOW the society they took a small part in!

    Statistically less than 20 years ago our population was still some 98% White and British!
    That’s US, that’s who WE ARE!

    You are callously advocating massive and totalt population elimination and replacement. If this was planned for any non-White people and country YOU’D be jumping up and down about that being “racist”!!!

    In very recent times MASSIVE numbers of wildly divergent foreign races, ethnicities, and nationalisties have been brought in here…AGAINST the wishes of the Australian people!
    To say this qualifies roughly as making a multi-racial or ‘multi-cultural’ society is a stone cold LIE!

    They have come to live in and take advantage of OUR society!
    The veneer and momentum of real Australia…of true White/British Australia still exists! THAT is what people are flooding in to make use of…however, like parasites that weaken and eventually kill the host…this is an impending catastrophe for Australia!

    You’re looking at the VERY RECENT massive influx of foreigners into our country, and claiming this discounts Australia, and is now the “reality” of Australia. This is a LIE!

    You insanely, outrageously, and disgustingly claim that I (and one would presume that other Australians) have no right to cherish our country, our culture, our society, and what it was like before we were born???
    And yet you’ll as likely condone foreigners here adhereing to and preserving cultural rites far from their home and often centuries, if not millenia, after their inception!
    ALL staggering evidence of the lies, hypocrisy, and contradictions of liberal activists, and of multicultism in general!

    No, I was around in Australia in the 1920’s. SO WHAT? This is MY country and society…and my grandfather, and great-grandfather were here then…and prior to that my great-great, great-great-great, and great-great-great-great grand fathers!
    You low-down bastards, and those that hold your leads…maliciously wish to sever all of the Australian’s ties with their own people, society, culture, nation, and civilisation.
    As long as any of us breathes we shall resist that!
    We have NOT been invaded, we have NOT been subjugated! OUR system still holds sway in our country, WE are still the genuine population!

    I grew up in Australia over the last 40 years…and it was golden…and all that time, aside from a few tiny ethnic minorites…no Australian would claim that Australia was anything other than WHITE!

    You can’t shove in masses now and claim that’s what this country “is” now!
    White Australia was what made Australia, and IS Australia…and that just tears at the guts of you spite-filled brats and your multicult fantasies and plans!

    Tolerance and celebration are diametrically opposed things! Tolerating means standing something. You CANNOT celebrate what you have to tolerate, you cannot celebrate what you have to stand! Tolerance is always of a bad thing, and always short term.
    You are DENYING the Australian’s right to be themselves and to celebrate THEMSELVES! You are demanding that Australians “celebrate” and ‘tolerate’ the racial obliteration of their people, and the wanton destruction of their society and nation.
    This is absolutely INTOLERABLE!

    Australia is NOT a ‘multicultural’ society, that is a God-damned LIE!

    We were us, and the majority in our own country, until VERY recently…and we have EVERY right to return to that, to safeguard and ensure that, and to celebrate that!

    We know EXACTLY who and WHAT we were, and ARE!

    • “Statistically less than 20 years ago our population was still some 98% White and British!”

      Bullshit.

      “In very recent times MASSIVE numbers of wildly divergent foreign races, ethnicities (sic), and nationalisties (sic) have been brought in here…AGAINST the wishes of the Australian people!”

      What are you sourcing when you say ‘against the wishes of the Australian people’? Daily Telegraph polls? Yes, some people are opposed to immigration because they are xenophobic. You cannot tell me that the white masses that live in white Mcsuburbs away from the city who have plenty of room feel overcrowded. Excuses of losing University places and jobs to people who immigrate here are cloaks for xenophobia and serve to mask the fact that they didn’t work hard enough in school to secure their University place (subsidised greatly by international fee paying students) and consequent jobs. If I left school in Year 10, kicked a can around for a few years while scamming off Centrelink and then started whinging about the fact that foreigners were taking all my opportunities away, how long would it take for someone to remind me that I could get a job in a call centre, cafe, fast food outlet or a supermarket?

      “They have come to live in and take advantage of OUR society!”

      Yes, and what’s the problem with that? Their presence doesn’t decrease the amount of white people living here. What’s the difference between someone being born here taking advantage of our society, and somebody coming here from somewhere else? How would you feel if there was a three-generation white Australian family living in China that decided to migrate to Australia to take advantage of our society?

      “The veneer and momentum of real Australia…of true White/British Australia still exists! THAT is what people are flooding in to make use of…however, like parasites that weaken and eventually kill the host…this is an impending catastrophe for Australia!”

      Are you suggesting that people are migrating here because of our whiteness? Are you suggesting that our natural resources and booming mining industry are white? That the very earth that has been here all along, before white colonisation, before the Indigenous arrivals over 40,000 years ago is somehow white?

      “You insanely, outrageously, and disgustingly claim that I (and one would presume that other Australians) have no right to cherish our country, our culture, our society, and what it was like before we were born???”

      No, not at all. You are comparing a modern day setting with a setting you have never experienced. You are suggesting that Australia post-immigration is worse off compared to Australia pre-immigration, when there are no sources that would support the idea that pre-immigration times were more prosperous, more comfortable or more civilised. You can respect our ancestry all you like, and our ancestry will never change. What is inevitable is that our cultural make up will change, as it has done until this point.

      “We have NOT been invaded, we have NOT been subjugated! OUR system still holds sway in our country, WE are still the genuine population!”

      No, you’re right. We have not been invaded or subjugated. Our democratic and law systems still stand. Our allegiance to the British monarchy remains unchanged. So what the fuck are you so scared of? Australia takes on average over 170,000 immigrants each year and has done for quite some time. 25% of our population was born overseas. 50% of our population have foreign ancestry. And yet everything you say is being torn down remains unchanged. If non-whites were so hell-bent on taking over, un-installing our systems and tarnishing our heritage, then why haven’t they done so yet? There is no such thing as a pure white Australian, as they have British or celtic ancestry. Being Australian represents so much more than British ancestry, and white ‘Australians’ are a minority. So why haven’t your worse phobias been realised yet? Why hasn’t our country gone down the tubes and become a third-world country? Why haven’t we adopted Sharia Law, or a monotheist society? Why have the rights of women and children been upheld?

      “Tolerance and celebration are diametrically opposed things!”

      You have a choice. You can choose to tolerate other races, which means that you don’t necessarily like them, but can accept that they are here to stay. From here your aim is to avoid creating division. If you choose to celebrate other races, you’ve progressed to the point where you acknowledge the qualities that other cultures bring to continuum that is the Australian culture. If you choose to oppose other races living in Australia, you are choosing to create division. Australia will never be a whites-only country. As soon as you acknowledge this, you will make the necessary perspective changes and begin to open your mind.

      “You are DENYING the Australian’s right to be themselves and to celebrate THEMSELVES! You are demanding that Australians “celebrate” and ‘tolerate’ the racial obliteration of their people, and the wanton destruction of their society and nation.”

      No, not at all. If you take a look at the aspects that make up Australian culture, they are all global traits and interests. Drinking, playing and watching sport, helping your fellow man, mateship, having a sense of humour, and being family oriented – they are not exclusively Australian. Australians can be any colour, with any cultural heritage, as long as they abide by our laws, pay taxes and contribute in a positive way to our country. How you can disagree with this is beyond insanity, yet you have the nerve to call us ‘low-bastards’.

      “Australia is NOT a ‘multicultural’ society, that is a God-damned LIE!”

      Yes it is. More than half of our population have relatives who have migrated here from elsewhere in the globe. More than 25% of our population migrated here in this lifetime. If you look at where you eat, what you buy, what you drive, what you watch on TV, how you study and what you read, very little of it is the product or initiative of a ‘white Australian’ with British ancestry.

    • Does it not occur to you that we are made of different races? We are not “Australian”. We are part English, Scottish, Dutch, Irish, anything else you want to throw in there.
      Australia is a multi-cultural society, whether you like it or not, so it’s probably for the best if you just get the hell over it and shut your bigoted mouth.

  2. There has been NO break in Australian society, it is entirely linear.
    Despite the LIES of the left, and the very recent mass influx of foreigners.
    That does NOT break our direct link with our OWN people, society, and past…nor does it make a rag-tag influx of foreign races and nationalities the “reality” of what Australia “is”.
    Listing what foreigners may do here does NOT grant carte blanche to your hate-fileed, anti-White, anti-Australian agenda…it only makes us more angry at what is being done to our society.
    Less than ten years ago ethnic minorities were JUST THAT here…the VAST majority (naturally!) of Australians were White/British Australians…and NO-ONE thought otherwise!
    You cannot import massive amounts of foreigners in five minutes and claim that ‘hey presto’, “that’s what Australia is now”!
    It’s a total LIE!
    We Whites/British founded and made Australia…it does NOT exist without us…WE ARE IT…we ARE AUSTRALIA!

    • “Listing what foreigners may do here does NOT grant carte blanche to your hate-fileed (sic), anti-White, anti-Australian agenda…it only makes us more angry at what is being done to our society.”

      The authors of this blog are proud, white Australians who oppose racism and feel it necessary to publicise those that give other white Australians a bad name.
      As for ‘what is being done to ‘your’ society’, you’ve only ever known a multicultural society. You have access to a computer, free education, shelter, food and water, electricity, healthcare, freedom of speech and religion and entertainment. Your world hasn’t been affected one iota.

  3. “You are callously advocating massive and totalt population elimination and replacement. If this was planned for any non-White people and country YOU’D be jumping up and down about that being “racist”!!!”

    This statement was so absurd that I actually had to stifle a laugh.
    Immigration makes the anglo-celtic Australians disappear? Immigration is bringing in the extra people we need to support our economy because of our ageing population and critically low fertility rate. Australian citizens benefit from this. It allows us to continue to enjoy our high standard of living and economic prosperity. While Australia continues to not increase its population by natural increase we will need immigration, lest we decline.

    To compare this to the mass deportation or extermination of a certian group of people is utterly ludicrous. Immigration is not forcibly removing ‘white’ Australians from this country in any concievable way. Almost makes me wonder what your stance on emmigration is?

  4. “There was NO reason that it could have been, or should be, anything else!
    It’s OUR country, WE made it and populated it!

    The White Australia Policy was taken away from Australians…WITHOUT VOTE OR REFERENDUM…”

    Oh so the Aborigines took a vote to allow you to come into this country in the first place and then put them all into menial, degrading jobs? ‘You’ (and here I hesitate to associate all the accepting, caring Anglo-Saxon/Whites with people like you) may have populated this country, but you didn’t make it and it is most certainly not ‘yours’.

  5. The accusations of Scott about this being an anti-white, hate-filled agenda merely highlights a person who, when his claims and justifications fail to uphold the ‘integrity’ of his beliefs, falls to attacking on a personal basis. There is nothing ‘anti-white’ or ‘hate-filled’ by this post, moreover, it is well thought through and defines Australia as an inclusive, rather than an exclusive society, and the same can not be said for Scott’s comments. My family came over on the first fleet and were part of the invasion, and as far as I am concerned, it is a sad state of affairs when Australians who have the benefit of eating Italian or Chinese food, wearing European fashion, driving a Japanese car, can class Australia as predominantly white Australia. It is at this point that I would provide them with the tools to extricate their heads from their arses, as it is completely ridiculous to live in such complete ignorance.
    Australia is and has always been a place of multi-cultural immigration. Sentiments such as yours really took root during the Gold Rush when chinese migrants brought with them 5000 years worth of knowledge of working with gold and were seen as quite successful and therefore resented. It happened again with the successfully enterprising refugees of the 2nd World War, and then again during the Cold War, and Vietnam war. Your racism is not new, it has simply been reinvented. Your views are not unique, but represent the confused mix of bourgeois post-colonial discourse coupled with the the doctrine of how best to control the masses= divide and conquer. My great-great grandmother was Chinese, we have Spanish, Swedish, Irish, as well as convict English and aboriginal in my heritage. But simply because of the pale colour of my skin, you would not know my background. I am as Australian as anyone could claim to be and my family literally built the State I live in. I say to you that you should check your family tree, then get back to us. I suspect your ethnocentric values would be rocked by what you discover. Instead I would say to you Scott that your views are based on a series of poorly grounded stereotypes and misconceptions.

  6. ALL LIES!

    All downright, spite-filled lies…from people who think they’re going to somehow profit from a multi-racialised, multi-culturalised mess made of Australia.
    Or God know’s what you’ll want to call it.

    Lies, from people who have thrown their hand in with the racial dissolution of the Australian people, and the destruction of the Australian society and nation!

    Lies, from people who’s conscience tells them they’re wrong…but who’s ego will go to any lengths to try and cover that over.

    Lies, from people who were arrogantly “bored” with the Australia of five years ago…and 200 years before that.

    Lies, from people who think that what Australia “IS”, or seems like, now is all that matters.

    You all know that you’re wrong, everything you say is patently wrong…you do hate Australia and the Australian people.
    Australians NEVER gave their consent to their country being overrun, never gave their consent to being made a marginalised minority in their own country, never gave their consent to possibly being driven to extinction in their own country.

    You all go on about what is happening to Australia right now!
    As though this awful mess we find ourselves in is the be-all and end-all.
    With NO thought spared for the future…for the future of Australians.

    This is horrendous.
    You’ve stood up to be counted as enemies of Australia and Australians, and as enemies of the West.

    What is happening to Australia is an absolute tragedy…and, well, don’t count on all the rest of us laying down to die so readily.

    There IS a steady, grass-roots revival and movment amingst Australians to finally stand up against the grim plans that the spiteful left, and malicious capital, have for us.

    You ALL know that you’re wrong…in everything that you say…both factually and morally!

    Australia and Australians WILL stand against this awful plan!

    My voice one of a growing chorus!

    • “All downright, spite-filled lies…from people who think they’re going to somehow profit from a multi-racialised, multi-culturalised mess made of Australia.
      Or God know’s what you’ll want to call it.”

      Can you be specific? Where’s the lie? Maybe you can identify one at a time to enable level-headed debate. As for what we want to call Australia, we’ve already moved as a nation from ‘White Australia’ to ‘Assimilation’ to ‘Multiculturalism’. This has been progressive over the past 50 or so years, and you will find that the concept of ‘White Australia’ has less than 1% national support today. You didn’t just go to sleep one night in a white Australia and wake up the next morning with bipartisan politics embracing the idea of many cultures coming together and contributing to the ideals of Australian culture. If there are so many people in your ‘growing chorus’, where has their opposition been to the disbanding of the White Australia Policy?

      “Lies, from people who’s conscience tells them they’re wrong…but who’s ego will go to any lengths to try and cover that over.”

      You need to understand that in order for our country to continue to enjoy high levels of economic growth and prosperity, immigration needs to be a continuing contributing factor to our population. As mentioned before, we will never see a return to a white Australia, nor will immigration ever be completely halted. So when you put up an oppositional front and tell anybody coming here that they need to abandon their own culture, language and heritage, you are going to create mass division and racial tensions will increase. It’s consequential. However, if you encourage new Australians to abide by our laws, understand our democracy, identify with our heritage and history, while all along maintaining their identity with their primary culture, you are going to foster a mutual respect and move together to take advantage of the benefits that cultural variety brings to a nation that increasingly finds itself as part of the global scene.

      You can’t possibly hope to enjoy good trade, a booming tourist industry, worldwide respect and acknowledgment, partnership in international negotiations, international alliances, visiting international sports teams and migrating skilled workers without acknowledging that there are other cultures in the world that have things to offer.

      “You all know that you’re wrong, everything you say is patently wrong…you do hate Australia and the Australian people.”

      Lies, Scott. You are really clutching at straws here.

      “You’ve stood up to be counted as enemies of Australia and Australians, and as enemies of the West.”

      Not everything exists as a scenario of us versus the rest of the world. The paranoia sure has set in. We’ve been accepting high levels of foreign migrants into our country since the days of the Gold Rush. The mistrust at the time was of the cleanliness and hygiene of our visitors. The mistrust was because they were so damn good at mining for gold. Now the mistrust lies in the idea that everyone in the world except for us wants to take over the world. How much of the world has the West taken over, Scott? How much modern plundering and invasion has occurred at the hands of the Western nations? Australia is an aside for those global mistrusts. As mentioned before, no aspects of our societal structures have even come close to changing at the demands of the hordes of dirty non-whites coming here, have they?

      “What is happening to Australia is an absolute tragedy…and, well, don’t count on all the rest of us laying down to die so readily.”

      You enjoy a comfortable life, Scott. At some point you need to question the productivity of an Australia where deaths outweigh births, skills are desperately needed, tourism is non-existent, businesses don’t do any business and foreign countries refuse to buy or sell with us. You will realise that in our British-inherited system of democracy, we elect members of parliament who make decisions for us. Immigration benefits Australia far more than it hurts us. And the only ones hurting are xenophobic supremacists such as yourself.

      I live in the city, Scott. I am surrounded by multiculturalism. I look just like you, white skin, fugly face. I see and feel the benefits of multiculturalism daily. I have not lost a University place or a job opportunity to a migrant, but I have missed University places due to not getting the marks I wanted, and I have missed jobs because there have been better applicants for the job. I am still University educated, and have a good job. I live in a city apartment and do not feel crowded into a shoebox. I catch buses and trains and drive on city roads, and while at times they become crowded, I blame successive state governments for a lack of planning and infrastructure. There are more crowded cities in the world with better roads and transportation, more access to services, more networked technological systems and happier citizens. But if at any point I felt boxed in, I merely have to drive half an hour to an hour out of the city for uncrowded transport, parking, houses with big backyards, sports grounds, parks and reserves, pubs and clubs, shopping centres and a more relaxed lifestyle. The problems are amplified by those who want everything without being willing to make sacrifices.

      Australians ARE standing against immigration, Scott. They have been doing so since colonisation. Their voices are always outweighed by the majority of those who do not oppose it, and by the integrity of governments who understand the benefits migrants bring to our country, regardless of where they have come from. Health and security checks are mandatory. Citizenship tests are mandatory for those wanting to live here. And we have born-here citizens who know nothing of Australian history and heritage, engaging in anti-social behaviour and criminal activity that you have no problem with.

  7. EVERYTHING!
    Every peep, every vague claim, every glib statement, employed to promulgate ‘multi-culturalism’ is a LIE!
    All of it.

    Why call yourself “fugly”? All of that self-doubt and self-loathing being witnessed now in many Australians is part and parcel of the ruthless plan to demoralise, undermine, and destroy Western nations.

    You claim the city you live in is not crowded by foreigners? If you live in Melbourne or Sydney and say that then you are a liar.
    Any and every school position or job taken now by a foreigner IS one taken from an Australian.
    There are NO…absolutely ZERO… “benefits” to ‘multi-culturalism’!

    You also talk about a very tentative status quo…of right NOW…with the current level of foreigners living here…and that you ( in your esteemed wisdom) find that all fine and comfortable.
    Many don’t.
    And do you expect things to remain as is?
    What about a year from now? Five years from now? Ten years? 20 years? 100 years from now?
    As current migrants have children…as they most likely will, and in great numbers… and if the current massive levels of immigration continue?
    Just WHAT do you think might happen?
    You think that you can ply a trade in absolutely debased, kow-towed, defeatism…welcoming in all and sundry…AND continue with the comfortable life that your forefathers made possible for you and that you take obnoxiously for granted?
    Just when do you think it reaces critical mass?
    Do people like you make any provisions at all for such?
    Do you even actually CARE about the well-being of Australians?

    Many people are NOT comfortable in, or with, this! Australians ARE rapidly becoming sidelined in many schools, places of business, industries, neighbourhoods and areas.
    If this is not curtailed immediately, then it can ONLY GET WORSE!

    There is NO good reason for anything other than token levels of migration into Australia. There is NO benefit to be gained from racial dissolution and national destruction…there are NO “benefits” for any prescribed host nation in ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Australians do NOT have to make “sacrifices” to accomodate people that they do not want or need here!

    Earlier generations have often sacrificed for US! You have NO right to spit upon that!

    You mock and deny Australians.
    The fact is that the very VAST majority of Australians OPPOSE ‘multi-culturalism’ and RESENT traitors such as yourself who foster such an agenda!

    • “Every peep, every vague claim, every glib statement, employed to promulgate ‘multi-culturalism’ is a LIE!”

      Here is your problem. You are delving into subjectivity. The benefits of multiculturalism and the contributions of migrants can be physically measured. The idea that the white race is superior and therefore anything non-white that has entered our sphere is harming our society is opinionated at best. Why do you continue to write multiculturalism with inverted commas? Do you deny its existence? You still have not provided any data/evidence/public majority that supports the idea that multiculturalism is not working, yet you’re happy to keep referring to the very ideals of multiculturalism as conspiracy laden lies.

      “You claim the city you live in is not crowded by foreigners? If you live in Melbourne or Sydney and say that then you are a liar.”

      No, once again you are speaking with subjectivity. Waiting 20 minutes for a train is too long for some, and bearable to others. Paying $450,000 for a 2 bedroom apartment 5 minutes from the city is too expensive for some, and manageable for others. Sitting through traffic while passing over the bridge is agonising for some, but bearable for others. Once again, if you’ve made the choice to live in the heart of the city, you need to expect that this is the hub of activity. You need to expect that trains will be more crowded, as will roads. You need to expect to pay more for an apartment and wait longer for a table at a restaurant. These are the sacrifices we speak of. People who live in and around the cities of Melbourne and Sydney love where they live, and love most aspects of the lifestyle. Sure, some facets of their day-to-day life are more congested than those who live 30 – 60 minutes from the city, but for most residents, this is expected and taken in stride. YOUR opinion is that being crowded by people – especially if half of them are of foreign descent – is completely unbearable and intolerable. You need to realise that your opinion is one of several hundred thousand, and part of a minority of voices. People that are not happy where they are generally move. And the prices of apartments and houses in the city are high enough for people to make the move away from the cities if they so desire.

      “Any and every school position or job taken now by a foreigner IS one taken from an Australian.”

      Please list the schools you know of that are turning children away from enrollment. While childcare is expensive, and waiting lists are generally lengthy, public education is not overcrowded and white Australians are not documented as being turned away. This is a lie on your part Scott.

      “As current migrants have children…as they most likely will, and in great numbers… and if the current massive levels of immigration continue?
      Just WHAT do you think might happen?”

      I expect ‘white Australian’ blood to mix with non-white Australian blood, just as its done over the past centuries. My girlfriend is not a white Australian, she is a 3rd generation migrant from the Philippines. Our children will be half Philippine half white Australian. If this scares you, leave the country now.

      “Do you even actually CARE about the well-being of Australians?”

      Your poor misguided subjectivity again – I regard an Australian as someone who abides by Australian law, votes for Australian government, pays taxes, contributes to our economy and workforce, is a citizen and who demonstrates the kind of character traits of a decent human being. I very much CARE about the well-being of Australians, regardless of whether they’re white or not.

      Your homework: Find some facts and evidence to support the statements you’ve been making. Quit being so damn subjective. And for fuck’s sake – NO MORE CAPITALS. It makes you look so desperately misled.

  8. “The fact is that the very VAST majority of Australians OPPOSE ‘multi-culturalism’ and RESENT traitors such as yourself who foster such an agenda!”

    Can you present some concrete evidence to support this fact? I personally haven’t encountered any substantial opposition to multiculturalism in this country before discovering the ‘Fuck off We’re Full’ groups, which are usually composed of the ingorant and insecure and only number on average less than 5000 people at the most.

  9. “Statistically less than 20 years ago our population was still some 98% White and British!”

    I just downloaded the 1996 census from the ABS. No earlier ones are available online. The 1991 would be perfect for his bullshit.

    In 1996 14,773,610 people located in Australia were born in Australia, UK, Canada, USA, Ireland, NZ, or South Africa. Let’s assume they’re ALL anglo, which is NOT the case.

    2,362,379 were born elsewhere in the world. Most would be non-anglo. They made up 13% of the population.

    Here’s an idea Scott. Get the 1991 census to back up what you said. It’s from 19 years ago and should be perfect. Point out where it says 98% of people are from an Anglo background. Bet you can’t.

  10. Ben, in short, do you REALLY think that a majority of Australians would be keen on losing their country?
    Do you REALLY think that a majority of Australians would be keen on losing their society, their standard of living, their identity?
    Do you REALLY THINK that a majority of Australians would be so quick to spit upon the memory of their ancestors? Relinquish their heritage, legacy, and birthrights? Face marginality and minority status in their own country? See the lives of their children and future generations of Australians so severely compromised and threatened?
    Do you really think that the majority of Australians just up and voluntarily wish to commit racial suicide?

    Wake up. The very VAST majority…and much of that is a silenced majority…of Australians are terribly offended and upset by, angered by, resent, and oppose such ‘multi-culturalisation’ of their country.

    Your callous indifference to them, to us…actually comes at all of our peril!

  11. “Aussie Unionist”…WHY do you think it “bullshit” that the majority…or all…of the population of Australia was once Australians?
    That’s natural and logical!
    Why do you think it “bullshit” that until very recently the very greater majority of the Australian population was White/British Australians?
    That’s us, that’s who and what we are!

    Do you demand that the populations of any other countries now be not what the actual population of that country is?

    Why is it so horrendous to you that Australians (White/British people) made and populated Australia, and wish to keep it that way?

    Here we arrive, again, at the real conundrum for multicultists…you HATE Whites so much…but realise that only Whites built a country like Australia.
    You’ll ascribe blame to Whites/Australians alone for all of the “bad” things done here…BUT then also try and deny that Whites/British/Australians were ever the majority of the population!

    ANYONE who lived in Australia more than five minutes ago knows that Whites/Australians were the absolutely vast majority of the population.
    That was never in doubt. It couldn’t have been.

    There’s NO good reason for it to ever be different either!

    Yes indeed, we were until very recently the vast majority of the population of our own country…and we wish to forge into the future thus intact!

  12. You didn’t answer my basic point Scott. You’re the one who stated “Statistically less than 20 years ago our population was still some 98% White and British!” Funnily enough you haven’t produced any evidence of this (because it’s wrong).

    You’re full of bullshit because you make up statistics and then put words into my mouth saying I “HATE Whites so much”.

    It’s pathetic.

    • He hasn’t given me proof of his ‘majority of Australians hate multiculturalism’ statement either. Throw a peer reviewed study my way Scott. No websites please. I’m tired of reading unsubstantiated claims.

  13. Scott has only ever offered up 1 link, and it was to a crackpots page of conspiracy and fearmongering. A complete joke. (I’d show you the link, but it was lost when all scott’s posts were deleted after getting himself banned from yet another internet page, I’m sure he’ll still have it though).

  14. I commend the calm and rational way in which antibogan refutes Scott’s ‘argument’, if I can call it that. Racist rants are not given to being logical and rational, and Scott’s is no exception.

  15. Cold and rational, is how you should put it, very cold, and rational.
    Don’t put ‘argument’ as such in reference to what I am saying.
    I am stating stridently that Australia should remain populated by Australians, now and into the future…that Australians have EVERY right to autonomy and self-determination in their own country…that Australians have a right to the integrity of their identity…that Australians have EVERY right to close their borders to foreign immigration/invasion…that Australians have EVERY right to ensure their standard of living and to not be made a minority within their own country!

    You think the “anitbogan” has any cause or right to refute any of that?
    No matter how “calmly”(coldly) or rationally they do it?

    They are refuting the birth-right of Australians to be themselves, to protect themselves, and to stave off their social and racial destruction!

    I don’t have to ‘argue’ what I’m saying, per se, for it’s virtue shines clear and bright.

    Everything I have said is logical and rational (PLEASE, tell me what you think is illogical or irrational about defending your people and country?!)…and passionate!

    It’s racial, of course! It’s not “racist”!

  16. Scott, you say that “Australia should remain populated by Australians, now and into the future”. Well first off, no shit, Sherlock. If you’re born and raised here, you’re Australian. I’m not sure if you’ve heard, but there’s this thing called breeding, and as a result of that, Australia is always going to be populated by Australians.

    Question for you; if a person is born here to Chinese parents, and has spent their whole life here, are they Australian? Just because someone doesn’t fit the stereotypical Anglo image that you seem to associate with Australia, doesn’t mean they’re not Australian. Image isn’t everything.

  17. Everything I have said is logical and rational (PLEASE, tell me what you think is illogical or irrational about defending your people and country?!)…and passionate!

    Ok, You are not rational or logical at all. For starters, your country is not under threat, dispute that if you will but please provide some evidence of where your way of life has been threatened.

    Australia IS populated by Australians, You are from one of the many immigrant families that make up this wonderful country.

    And just to note, yes I said wonderful country, I love Australia and the lifestyle I have here. I do not advocate the destruction of my country as you so like to say we all do. Being pro multiculturalism does not mean I hate myself, my fellow man or my country. It also does not mean MASS MILLIONS BILLIONS or TRILLIONS coming in, nobody but you thinks the number is that big. (Yet more examples of your irrational and illogical dribble)

    Your “virtue” does not shine at all, the only thing recognizable exuding from you is hate for your fellow man.

  18. “Ben, in short, do you REALLY think that a majority of Australians would be keen on losing their country?
    Do you REALLY think that a majority of Australians would be keen on losing their society, their standard of living, their identity?
    Do you REALLY THINK that a majority of Australians would be so quick to spit upon the memory of their ancestors? Relinquish their heritage, legacy, and birthrights? Face marginality and minority status in their own country? See the lives of their children and future generations of Australians so severely compromised and threatened?
    Do you really think that the majority of Australians just up and voluntarily wish to commit racial suicide?”

    Please tell me… because Im a little confused….What is “an Australian”? Is it someone who was born here? I wasn’t but I became an Australian Citizen in 2005. Is an Australian a white person? From the outside I look white but I have to admit that my genetic makeup is a bit of a stew. Is it someone who is christian? Again, I wasn’t christened, was not brought up with any church nor have I subscribed to any religion in my adult years. Do I not belong here? I have a daughter now… she is regarded as an Australian by the government, her father (who was also born and raised here) and all her relatives. Do you have to cheer for Australia in sport to be an Australian? I have to admit that I don’t always. My daughter cheers for her bottle and funny faces. Do Australians want to live in peace, be healthy, grow prosperous and laugh alot? I definitely meet that criteria… But I’m sure I am not alone in that. I will teach my little girl to be respectful, kind and strong. I will tell her about her mother’s old home and hope that she is proud of that part of her heritage too. So I guess I want to know if she can claim to be an Australian as well? Why can you call yourself Australian and yet I feel that mine and my daughter’s nationality may be in question? Does she have a birthright? Is she entitled to “a legacy”? What is her “identity”? This is a serious question…. What makes a person Australian?

  19. Yes, I am rational and logical, and yes, my country is under threat.
    Melbourne’s transport system, schools, industry and streets are crowded by foreigners…with all that entails…these are not tourists…they are entire foreign communities, intent on staying, and growing.
    Australians are threatened with being made into a minority within one more generation.
    Land and property is being bought out from under Australians at an alarming rate.
    We could go on and on.
    Australia, is under serious threat.

    There is far more to a threat than only the worst extreme of one’s very life being threatened.
    There is so much more at stake.
    I will NOT see Australia, and the Australian’s standard of living, reduced to the level of being seen as acceptable, just as long as there’s no blade to your throat.

    There’s more to a threat than “just” the threat to life and limb.

    Key point being as well though, that the introduction of witless, callous, hyper-violent Maoris, Samoans, Lebanese, and Sudanese IS now a potential threat to the safety and lives of Australians!

    I am not from an “immigrant family”. There was no society here for any of us to immigrate to. I’m from a PIONEERING family! Major and total difference!

    Being pro-multiculturalism DOES mean that you hate yourself, DOES mean that you hate your family, your people, your society, and your country…’multi-culturalism’ can ONLY destroy the countries it is inflicted upon!

    So-called “multiculturalism” DOES mean millions, and possibly billions…do you think the ten’s of thousands arriving per annum now will not have children?
    Multiple ‘culturalism’ means exactly that…importing entire foreign populations, cultures.
    Once you do this you run the risk of losing control. Are you also advocating a limited birth policy for all of these immigrants? Sterilisation maybe?
    No, liberal fools such as yourself talk that game about “equality” and “openness” and “love”…but also presume to wipe your hands and absolve yourself of any guilt in what you support may elicit.
    Hundreds soon turn into thousands, thousands turns into hundreds of thousands, and they very shortly into millions.
    Very quickly you have entire racial/ethnic/cultural/national groups within another country that weren’t there a short time before.
    You can’t pretend to not know what ‘multi-culturalism’ involves.

    We can still nip that in the bud, before further damage.
    We genuine, concerned Australians have every right to say stop!

    You, and those like you, who presume to be able to distance yourself from any and everything that you unleash…or by your tacit approval unleash…hate your fellow man, and even more so hate your kin.

    I love my fellow man. That does not mean I invite them all into my home.

    Virtue, like charity, begins in the home, and we have a right and a duty to protect ours first.

  20. Oh dear. Scott, seriously have you considered seeing a doctor or a psychologist. Living with such fear and hatred is toxic to your own physical and mental health and it impacts on others in very negative ways. You’ll shorten your own life span with such bile induced rants.

  21. Typical, tired, liberal response.
    That Whites concerned by the degradation and impending loss of their countries must be “crazy”, or similar.
    Are you claiming that Australians (and Whites in Western nations generally) have nothing at all to fear in the face of massive, multi-racial immigration into their countries?
    Are you claiming that Australians are unjustified in hating the assault upon, swamping off, and possible loss of their country, identity, safety, standard of living, and maybe even lives?
    Are you claiming that Australians shouldn’t hate liberal traitors stabbing them in the back?
    I hate what is deserving of hate, that’s natural.
    I hate few people though, but I’ll often hate what people do.
    If you wish to stop hatred, then quit throwing your hand in with the kind of spiteful plans that cause such hate.

    It’s absolutely right to fear what is fearful, and to hate what is deserving of it.

    The whole multicult project, will…and is intended to, hamper and shorten lives!

    What I say is intellect, heart, and spirit inspired…it is the rants belched out by liberals such as yourself, that is bile.

  22. Yes Scott, I am claiming those things, there is nothing to fear, there is no loss of identity, country, safety or standard of living and nobody has stabbed us in the back.
    Wake up, you are the one that has been brainwashed.

  23. If you’re just saying that just to be saying that, to push the agenda, to gloss over what’s happening, then you’re a real so and so.
    If you actually believe that, then boy have you been duped!

    There is EVERYTHING to be feared about massive immigration levels into, heck, let’s be honest and call it invasion of, your country!
    There is EVERYTHING to be feared about possible total population change of our country, EVERYTHING to be feared about a massive, multi-racial influx, EVERYTHING to be feared about losing control of your own society, EVERYTHING to be feared about the very real threat of biological destruction!

    We are (were?) an ordered, culturally coherent, racially cohesive, advanced, modern society…how can any of us NOT fear the influx of massive numbers of other races, ethnicities, and nationalities into that???

    Are you for real?

    When in history has mass, foreign population innundation ever NOT had a fearful outcome?

    We’re not idiots, we’re not peasants herding goats or tending a rice paddy, that can have the wool pulled over our eyed, we’re not blind…we SEE what is going on, right now…AND we are aware of exactly what the plan for the future is!

    In only a very short space of time we have been faced with losing our identity!
    For frig’s sake, you can’t flip it around now!
    You’re one of the ones chiming in with the kind of “Australia has no culture”/”oh, I suppose you think Australian means ‘white Australian’/”who’s a real Australian?”/”Australians are boat people-immigrants-thieves”/”anyone that is a citizen is an Australian” malarky and garbage that is being thrown around now.
    The whole point of this web/blog site, and of the multicult movement, is to deny the Australian’s identity.

    Australian’s ARE losing their country! Have you walked the streets of Melbourne recently, teeming with foreigners? Looked at schools in which 80% or more of the student body is non-Australian? Ridden on buses or trains around Melbourne…crowded full by a horrendous multi-racial mess, dozens of incoherent languages and dialects bashing your ears ? Read the gleefully and malciously conveyed report that Singh and Nguyen are now amongst the ten most numerous names in the phone book?

    Literally, thousands of acres of Australian farm-land is being bought up foreign interests every week!

    What in the hell do you think happens when massive numbers of foreigners go into another country?
    What do you think happens?

    The Australian’s safety is put more and more at risk. If you don’t think that violent, cold-blooded, machette wielding gangs running amok are not a risk to safety, then I don’t want to know what you think is.
    If you don’t think that Australians losing employment, or having housing in their own property priced out of their reach is a threat to our safety…or standard of living…then I really dread to think what you might say would be!

    By definition, ‘multi-culturalism’ IS the most serious threat to the identity, country, safety, and standard of living of Australians.

    How dare you say we’re not being stabbed in our back? You’ve got your hand firmly grasped on the knife’s handle!

    And no, it’s your brain that has been hosed out and scrubbed squeaky clean.

    • “Looked at schools in which 80% or more of the student body is non-Australian?”

      I don’t know where you got this from, but the year group I was in, there was only 10 non-white people.

      • Scott believes that use of hyperbole makes his arguments more convincing. This does not make them any more truthful, however.

        I’m still waiting for that article Scott. I would be interesting to see where you are getting your ‘facts’ from.

  24. I don’t know where he gets his definitions from either, a special Scott edition dictionary maybe?
    I can picture it now, he has the only copy, and it has a space under each word to write his own definition.

    • Scott lives under the delusion that he will get what he wants by incessantly shouting at people. Fortunately, in a civilised society like Australia we don’t measure the veracity of an argument in decibels.

  25. And what year was that Rudolf?
    You half-wits really need to pull your heads out of your sphincters, and look what’s going on now.
    OR, stop liying about what’s going on!

    There are numerous schools around Melbourne’s suburbs now in which there are few, if any, Australian students.
    Go and wait at the Sunshine bus terminus any afternoon of the week, and see bus after bus pull in, and an explosion of screaming Asian, Indian, Islander, and African children pour out.
    Notice, terribly, that not one Australian child gets off.
    There are school teachers and principals actually regaling us now with the news that the population of their schools are 80%, or more, non-Australian/non-White…as though this is good, as though this is some sort of achievement, as though we’re supposed to be fucking happy about this turn of events!

    What do you think is going to happen with ‘multi-culturalism’ anyhow?
    What do you think happens when you invite entire ethnic groups in?
    You people flit around with trying to hurt Australian’s feelings by gloating over the percentages of how many more foreigners live in Australia now, and that’s “the way it is now”…AND then pissing around and trying to claim that what is happening actually isn’t!

    Many Melbourne schools now have vastly more foreign students than Australian. Do you think you can hide that?
    They, obviously, STAND OUT!

    People are actually trumpeting on about the high levels of non-White/non-Australian children in our schools, as a sign of our “diverse” and ‘multi-cultural’ new society.
    It’s total and complete horse-shit. It really does not bode well for the future. It’s a complete travesty!
    It’s a crash course in our own destruction.

    You want to show off the ‘diversification’ of Australia…BUT then try and deny that it’s happening to as to alay the fears, concerns, and objections of Australians?
    No, you don’t get it both ways.

    The shocking evidence of what is going on is most apparent in Australia’s schools.

    Try going back to your old school now Rudolf, there’s as likely only 10 Whites/Australians there.

    In my High School there was one Black (Rhodesian) girl, three Chinese, and a few European ethnics, and that’s ALL it has to or ever should be here!

    Wake up though, it’s vastly different right now, it’s sickening, shocking, and disgusting in our schools, and something has to be done about it.
    Pretending it’s not happening, doesn’t cut it.

    • “There are numerous schools around Melbourne’s suburbs now in which there are few, if any, Australian students.”

      Here’s where our problem lies, Scott. We have extremely differing opinions of what it means to be Australian. The issue is in the definition.
      People that believe in multiculturalism (the concept of many cultures harmoniously living together with respect for each other) believe that granting the status of belonging to a country lies in examining whether or not that person contributes positively to their country of chosen residence or not. Do they work and pay taxes? Do they abide by the country’s laws? Do they have a knowledge of that country’s history? Do they respect all other people living in that country, regardless of sex/gender/race/religion/disability? If the answer to most or all of those questions is yes, we believe that a person deserves to live in Australia and have the freedom of calling themselves Australian.
      People such as yourself believe that a person is Australian only if they are pure descendants of a British family. So while Australia’s notorious pedophile Denis Ferguson appears to be a white, Anglo Saxon bloke who you would assume is a descendant of a British family somewhere up the track, you choose to ignore the fact that he used to rape children, and you grant him residency into your country. Do you see the irony in accepting people on the basis of something that they cannot control, ie. their birth country or line of relatives? Do you see the irony in calling people who have directly come from another country (England) Australian, yet ignoring those who were actually born here to people who were born here to people who were born here to people who were born here to people who migrated here from Vietnam?

      “There are numerous schools around Melbourne’s suburbs now in which there are few, if any, Australian students.
      Go and wait at the Sunshine bus terminus any afternoon of the week, and see bus after bus pull in, and an explosion of screaming Asian, Indian, Islander, and African children pour out.
      Notice, terribly, that not one Australian child gets off.”

      You do realise that these children are being educated in our country, and will one day be participants in our economy? They will work, pay tax, and contribute money to our economy in their roles as consumers. In this statement you make the implication that only non-white children are ‘…an explosion…’ of screamers. By making this implication, you suggest that white children are always well behaved in public and on public transport. In fact, every time you refer to a non-white, you imply that they are dirty, uneducated, greedy and intent on taking over the country. By this very implication you suggest that white people are never dirty, uneducated, greedy or intent on running the place their way. Do you see the irony?

      “There are school teachers and principals actually regaling us now with the news that the population of their schools are 80%, or more, non-Australian/non-White…as though this is good, as though this is some sort of achievement, as though we’re supposed to be fucking happy about this turn of events!”

      You may have never experienced being educated in an environment where you can interact with a child who participates in Ramadan, or that can speak 3 other languages, or that has homosexual parents, or that live in a house containing three generations of family, or that have completely different skin to you. But studies show that children who have the opportunity to grow up with and learn alongside people from different cultures and backgrounds consistently show that these people are far less likely to hold unjustified prejudices or entertain negatively stereotypical views of those who are physically different to them. How you can see this as a negative is completely beyond the rational thinkers in this forum, because you’ve shown (for several months now) that you have built a wall based on prejudice. You’ve decided that Australians can only be white, and this view suggests that you see whites as superior. This may haunt you forever, but out there in our beautiful country, is a refugee who has a higher IQ than you, an African wiser than you, a Chinese woman who earns more than you, an Aboriginal who has achieved more than you, a Lebanese person who has more friends than you, a Muslim who is better looking than you, an Indian who is cleaner and neater than you and a Somalian who is more proud to live in Australia than you. Because all you do is criticise what Australia has become, and what it is becoming. You can’t see the forest for the trees. You have a rigid view and a narrow perspective. You see negatives when there are positives. You see white when there is black.

      “What do you think is going to happen with ‘multi-culturalism’ anyhow?
      What do you think happens when you invite entire ethnic groups in?”

      Nobody is making any ‘invitations’, Scott. Australia is a free country, not a whites only crows nest. People are screened for criminal backgrounds, health standards, employment opportunities and knowledge of our country before being granted residency. White people who are born here of parents part of 8 or 9 generations (such as myself) are NOT screened for these things. If anything, quality control only extends to those moving here from elsewhere. If a white 8th generation Aussie bashes his wife, he isn’t deported, he cops a fine or sits in jail for a little while at the taxpayer’s expense, yet we moan and carry on when a Sudanese bloke robs a convenience store and isn’t sent back to his war torn country. When a white Aussie picks up an STD, are the Australian people protected from his presence in this country? Nope – he’s already here. Can a white Aussie grow up in Australia and fail throughout school and end up on the dole? Yes. Can a migrant gain citizenship and end up in the Centrelink queue? Not nearly as likely. Can a white Aussie grow up and not know who our first Prime Minister was, or understand our system of Parliament? Yes. Can a migrant gain citizenship and not have any idea? No. How’s your protected Australia looking now? Pretty dumb, lethargic and inbred isn’t it?

  26. Wow, gosh, gee…in short Rudolf, just HOW do you think a civilised society such as Australia even exists???

    I mean, really?

    The kind of civilised society that you’re inviting people into that could NOT have made it, and that you would have destroyed?

    It’s SO rich that multicultists want to deny and destroy White/British Australia, a civilised society…and THEN have the stone cold nerve to presume to mention that very civilised society!

    You don’t measure the veracity of an argument in decibels?
    Cough! Splutter! What?!
    You’re a liberal, a multicultist? Such people are INFAMOUS for their predeliction for foaming and frothing at the mouth, for screaming, shouting, and spitting, for yelling and shrieking to get their weak “arguments” across!
    For measuring everything upon the decibels their hysterial chants can reach to shout any genuine discussion down!
    And everybody knows it!

    You’re also fortunate to live within the kind of civilised society that allows for argument. Most of the ‘cultures’ you’re rashly inviting in wouldn’t allow such for a moment…in them you’d find yourself beaten, flogged, tortured, imprisoned, enslaved, hanged, shot or beheaded for your efforts at such!
    Do you realise your paradoxical contradiction?

    You all want to downplay, deny, insult, and destroy White/British/True Australia…but that’s the reason WHY there is a civilised Australian society!

  27. Do us a favor Scott, and answer the questions people are actually asking you. Instead of going off on a rant you have already told us.

    Who do you classify to be Australian? If a person is born here to Chinese parents, and has spent their whole life here, are they Australian? Just because someone doesn’t fit the stereotypical Anglo image that you seem to associate with Australia, doesn’t mean they’re not Australian. Appearance isn’t everything.

    If you answered no to that question. Then you’re pretty much saying that you’re not Australian. You see, for at least 40,000 years before European settlement in the late 18th century, Australia was inhabited by indigenous Australians. So unless you’re of Aboriginal decent, then your ancestors came here by boat also. Put it into the eyes of indigenous Australians at the time, and your ancestors were considered “foreigners who don’t belong here”.

    And for the record, where do you get all your “information” from? http://www.ipulledthisoutofmyass.com?

  28. Why don’t any of you, ever, answer questions?
    Does very convenient liberalism get you out of that?

    I’ve said it before, several times…and again I shall repeat the obvious.
    An Australian is a British person (and no, that doesn’t mean a Pakistani or West Indian that lives in Britain), an Australian is a (White) British person…English, Cornish, Welsh, Scottish, or Irish…or an Aboriginal.
    Those are the two, and one is obviously the vastly more important in that.

    No, Chinese are not Australians, as Australians are not Chinese.
    There has been a microscopic minority of Chinese in Australia for well over a century ( I have some in my family), that does not make them Australians.
    Appearance is something, not everything, no, but something…AND there is much more to being a nation, a culture, a people.

    Here’s an experiment, let’s start taking lots of Indians, or Africans, to live in China.
    Then see if the children they have there are thought of as “Chinese”.
    Firstly, it won’t happen, because other, non-White, countries take in NO immigrants…they just will NOT have it…and secondly, even IF…they would never be called Chinese.

    The Chinese who have been in Australia for a long time are in a truly weird position.
    Even though they have been here for a long time, have often become very “Australianised” or Westernised, by virtue of being a very different, alien people, within a greater society, they were always different, always somewhat of an oddity, the ‘others’.
    Over the last five years or so we have see MASSIVE numbers of Chinese coming here.
    Either from Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan or Hong Kong, or from mainlaind China proper…and they just could not care less about the long term Chinese population here, look down their nose at them, frankly.
    And the Chinese who have been here for a long time more often than not utterly resent these recent interlopers!
    They, ironically, after all this time value and miss their old status as being something of a special community here.
    It’s a real quandry.
    And in regards what you say about appearances…that’s the other killer, that after over 100 years being here, they’re often now thought of as being “just like” the new Chinese, because they (obviously) look Chinese.
    I liked the small Chinese population that had been here all that time, they were interesting, they knew their good little place here.
    No, they were not Australians, but they were an acceptable minority population here.

    I have an Italian uncle, been here 50 years, and he’s quite candid about it, “I’m Italians, I’ll never be Australian”.

    Do you think any other peoples or nations around the world would cop that “appearance isn’t everything” horse-shit that you’re peddling?
    Appearance to all of them is AS vital as anything else, and the various migrant groups coming, or wanting into, here WILL strive to protect their appearance as with everything else about their culture!

    You’re preaching this nonsensical and insulting cultural relativity, in which being Australian is reduced to a mere civic identity, which posits that a Sudanese who has been here six months can make some trite oath, become a citizen, and is all of a sudden an “Australian”!
    It’s outrageous, and myself and so many Australians refute it entirely!

    The indegenous Australians did NOT make the Australian nation and society!
    So quit it right there.
    You live within civilised, advanced, British, Australian society. You do NOT live in an indigenous Australian society, and NO migrants wanting in here are coming here to live in an indigenous society, they’re wanting into OUR society!

    We didn’t fucking well come here by boat! We traversed the seemingly endless oceans, upon some of the most well-crafted sailing ships ever constructed! Captained and crewed by brave, spirited men, taking a great nation, empire, and civlisation to the world.
    We arrived, and found a primitive people here, we conquered them, they’re our responsibility.
    This however, is our nation and society, it came with great effort and cost.
    We came and built a great nation here…by ourselves, from scratch, from the dust up!
    It’s our heritage, and legacy.

    It is our birthright to protect it, and see it into the future!

    • “An Australian is a British person (and no, that doesn’t mean a Pakistani or West Indian that lives in Britain), an Australian is a (White) British person…English, Cornish, Welsh, Scottish, or Irish…or an Aboriginal.”

      Wrong. Subjective comment. Australian law defines an Australian as somebody with Australian temporary residency or citizenship. Aboriginal people are identified in the census as Indigenous people, native to the land. As a Chinese person has the freedom to call themselves Chinese, Australian or Chinese-Australian, an Aboriginal can call themselves an Aboriginal, Australian or an Aboriginal Australian. You keep telling us how wrong we are, yet your comments are opinionated at best, and not supported by the laws of this country, that were adopted from the British system.

      “Here’s an experiment, let’s start taking lots of Indians, or Africans, to live in China.
      Then see if the children they have there are thought of as “Chinese”.”

      Imagine you are a parent, Scott. You go to enrol your child at school. You want to enrol your child into a classroom full of children, and for the sake of this example, it doesn’t matter if all the children are as white as your child, or from all over the world. The teacher has decided that this class is full, even though there are spare desks and chairs and workbooks, and tells you that your child is unwelcome. How does this affect your opinion of the teacher? How does this affect your opinion of the school? How does this affect your opinion of the children that are allowed to be in the class? How does this affect the mindset and behaviour of your child? How do you feel knowing that the school doesn’t want your child without even knowing that your child is a genius and an awesome cricketer? What options are left for you? Do you honestly want a country that parallels this system of exclusive behaviour?

  29. Who came up with this shit, so-called new Australian “law”? That anyone or anything can come here after the fact and, hey presto, become an Australian?
    That was NEVER put to the Australian people!
    We go by the rule of real law, common law, British law, old law, our law.

    Subjective-Objective, it doesn’t matter…an Australian is an Australian, and someone who isn’t, isn’t!

    I will fucking DIE, I will go down FIGHTING, before I see Australians be degraded and turned into hyphenated “Australians” in our own country!!!

    Don’t you dare raise a peep about the British system, that’s our system, and every moment you run with the multicult movement is an insult to that.
    You should read the original and complete lyrics of ‘Advance Australia Fair’, and you shall realise that your entire agenda at the moment spits vulgarly upon that spirit!

    Typical liberal act though, that you also ignore ALL else that wrote.
    Then trot out some REALLY piss-weak, and TOTALLY subjective nonsense to try and swing this multicult bullshit into sounding like it’s halfways right.
    It’s not.
    This is Australia, and it’s for Australians, that’s really simple. That’s it!

    Back to Sarah, I still expect, and will appreciate, you reading all that I wrote in reply to you.

    • “Who came up with this shit, so-called new Australian “law”? That anyone or anything can come here after the fact and, hey presto, become an Australian?
      That was NEVER put to the Australian people!
      We go by the rule of real law, common law, British law, old law, our law.”

      Yes, we go by the democratic Westminster system, a system adopted from British democracy, a system where we vote for leaders who represent us, and make these decisions for us. As mentioned before, there are a very small handful of political ‘parties’ that stand for an end to non-white immigration. You will appreciate, that none of them enjoy more than 0.01% of the popular vote. This suggests that you are part of that 0.01%.

      “Subjective-Objective, it doesn’t matter…an Australian is an Australian, and someone who isn’t, isn’t!”

      No, it does matter. Because you can’t dictate meanings to a dictionary, nor can you dictate law to a magistrate. Your opinion means nothing when it comes to understanding terms defined by our legal system.

      “I will fucking DIE, I will go down FIGHTING, before I see Australians be degraded and turned into hyphenated “Australians” in our own country!!!”

      Good riddance then. My best mate calls himself a Chinese-Australian. He holds onto his original culture, while embracing the Australian sense of culture. He drinks beer with me, he comes to the footy and goes for Essendon. He is a solicitor. He pays taxes. He has a son and he ensures that he is educated and safe. He is extremely knowledgeable in Australian history, and he is a second generation Australian. He flew the flag next to me at the 2000 Olympics. He is an Australian and he is Chinese. He is a wonderful citizen of this country, and he has far less pent-up hatred and cynicism than you.

      “Don’t you dare raise a peep about the British system, that’s our system, and every moment you run with the multicult movement is an insult to that.”

      Bullshit. Nowhere does it state that the British system is impervious to change. Multiculturalism has been installed in Australia by the leaders who have been elected via a British system of governance. Deal with it.

      “You should read the original and complete lyrics of ‘Advance Australia Fair’, and you shall realise that your entire agenda at the moment spits vulgarly upon that spirit!”

      Beneath our radiant Southern Cross,
      We’ll toil with hearts and hands,
      To make this Commonwealth of ours
      Renowned of all the lands,
      For those who’ve come across the seas
      We’ve boundless plains to share,
      With courage let us all combine
      To advance Australia fair.

      Now it’s your turn to read it.

      “Typical liberal act though, that you also ignore ALL else that wrote.
      Then trot out some REALLY piss-weak, and TOTALLY subjective nonsense to try and swing this multicult bullshit into sounding like it’s halfways right.
      It’s not.”

      I personally choose to respond to the things you say in this post, which is entitled ‘Scott’s Post’. I refuse to engage with you in the other threads you’ve poisoned. As for discussing subjectivity, it is you who has consistently argued the decisions made by those democratically elected to parliament, and it is you who has consistently denied the established understandings and definitions of what it means to have Australian citizenship. It is you that flies the flag of opinionated bullshit, and it is you who refuses to acknowledge Australia for what it is.

      “This is Australia, and it’s for Australians, that’s really simple. That’s it!”

      Correct. And this is the crux of our disagreement. One of us is bound by Australian law, and common Australian knowledge. One of us is bound in hate-driven opinion.

      http://www.citizenship.gov.au/should_become/

  30. I asked you to read the ENTIRE, original, complete lyrics of Advance Australia Fair!

    Which passionately stress the absolute Britishness of Australia!

    That burns like seering acid, like poison, to leftists and multicultists who HATE that, and will do anything to ignore suppress that!

    You resent, ridicule, mock, crticise, assault, and insult Australia…true, British, Australia…you then TOTALLY forfeit the right to talk about the Westminster system or any other aspect of our culture, history, society and heritage.

    With every word you utter, and every action now, as you spitefully seek to open Australia to invasion by the masses of the rest of the world, you attack our system.

    You’ve no right to try and pull it out at the last moment as some imagined defence of your evil-minded desecration of our system!

    All moves to inflict ‘multi-culturalism’ upon Australia and Australians is a total insult to us and our society and system, and is an attack upon the very foundation and spirit of our society.

    You’ve no right to try and play both sides.

    • “I asked you to read the ENTIRE, original, complete lyrics of Advance Australia Fair!

      Which passionately stress the absolute Britishness of Australia!”

      While the original verses of the anthem sing proudly of a British heritage, at no point during the anthem is there ever a point where the writer suggests that foreigners are unwelcome. You might be referring to the following (below) verse which merely says that if enemies from abroad should try to take over, Australians will defend their land with vigor. I don’t think there is any denial of this, and I personally wouldn’t have it any other way. But once again, the problem is in the definition, because you see any non-whites who choose Australia as their home as ‘foes’, when in actual fact they are happy to be here and have no desires to kill whites and take over. This is merely your paranoia.

      Should foreign foe e’er sight our coast,
      Or dare a foot to land,
      We’ll rouse to arms like sires of yore,
      To guard our native strand;
      Britannia then shall surely know,
      Though oceans roll between,
      Her sons in fair Australia’s land
      Still keep their courage green.
      In joyful strains then let us sing
      Advance Australia fair.*

      “You resent, ridicule, mock, crticise, assault, and insult Australia…true, British, Australia.”

      Nobody on here has done that at all. Please provide evidence of where any one person in this forum has insulted the British heritage. A person can stand for a Republic Australia without disrespecting a British heritage. A person can state that the majority of our first Brits were convicts without disrespecting Australia’s British heritage. A person can criticise the actions of white people without insulting the entire white race.

      “With every word you utter, and every action now, as you spitefully seek to open Australia to invasion by the masses of the rest of the world, you attack our system.”

      Again this is your opinion, it is not gospel or fact. You see immigration as invasion, but 40 years of government and voters have supported it as more than beneficial to our country. And let’s put things into perspective for a minute: We accept around 180,000 migrants each year, most of which are WHITE, from England and New Zealand. Around 110,000 people LEAVE Australia each year – and no, they aren’t all white. In fact most of the people that emigrate each year are going home to their home countries. That leaves a net 70,000 migrants each year, most of whom bring skills to our country. Australia’s population is 23,000,000. Immigration as a singular factor of population growth represents 0.3%. Births (one every minute 44 seconds) versus deaths (one every 3 minutes 27 seconds) represents a larger factor of population growth.

      “All moves to inflict ‘multi-culturalism’ upon Australia and Australians is a total insult to us and our society and system, and is an attack upon the very foundation and spirit of our society.”

      It would have been an insult back in the day where we feared black people because we thought that they were all savages. It would have been an insult back in the day where we feared Asians as a disease plagued horde of death merchants. It is not an insult today, and what you need to understand is that while there will always be debate over just how many people we allow in here each year, the wider population and both main sides of government believe that the foundation and spirit of our society is the inclusion of people from all walks of life, not just people with white skin.

  31. Hey yeah Scott I did read your reply. And there wasn’t really anything in there that you haven’t said before. You know, no matter what you say, the people on this blog are never going to take sides with you, so you may as well give up and go and talk to people who will actually take you seriously, because I don’t. I actually think it’s funny, how many things you’re making up and accusing of us of, when it’s all complete bullshit. And the the only one who denies it is you. And don’t say it’s because we’re liberals or whatever. It’s because we have a brain. I can see you have one too, it just seems a bit lost though.

    Look, you’d be flat strap finding a country in the world that disallows immigration. You’re acting as if Australia is the only country to do so, and that we’re eventually going to be flooded by the world’s population. Not so. Australia is very strict in regards to immigration, they don’t just let whoever turns up, in. There’s talks of a population cap already. It’s not going to get out of hand.

    If you want to live somewhere where there’s no immigration, go and live on the moon. You’ll be the only one that way, and can jabber on all you want about the ways of the world, and best bit is, no one will hear you!

  32. Good, a response.
    Not good, a typically hack, ignorant, liberal response!

    Well, you can take your flat strap to a WHOLE bunch of other (non-White!) countries that officially, or unofficially, totally disallow any immigration!
    Of course, many of them people aren’t going to want to go to. They don’t want to trade one crowded, filthy, violent mess for another.
    However, if Japan, Malaysia, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia…all quite wealthy and well run…were to open up to immigration there’d be masses flooding in!
    No, a great many nations of the world will ruthlessly seek to preserve their national, and racial, integrity.
    To whatever level it is.
    Wise up, immigration is not a multi-lane highway, it’s ALL going into the West.
    So many other countries have got their doors slammed and bolted shut.
    MAYBE, they’ll let a precious few, individual, skilled foreigners in each year.
    Total difference to entire ethnic, cultural, national, and racial groups pouring into the West.
    The rank hypocrisy of liberals, who say nothing about any of that, is glaring.
    Many countries take no immigrants. Australia has got to get back to that!

    No-one’s making up, or accusing, any of you of anything! You all go ON about your bullshit, you BOAST about it! You expect you’re gonna get nothing but sychophancy in reply…but when someone calls foul…then you scurry around claiming you’re not doing and sayinf what you’re doing and saying?

    I don’t have to go and live anywhere else, this is my country.
    If you so desire to live in a discordant, crowded, dirty, fractured, divided, stressful, violent mess…then there’s plenty of hell-holes around the world you can go and get lost in.
    You’ve no right to try and re-create such here.

    It’s funny how an anti-White activist will say something about going to the moon. It was us who went to the surface of the moon!

    Typical communist/illuminatist approach to, to try and silence people.

    CLEARLY, with the amount of responses I get, here and elsewhere, my voice IS being heard!
    You and your type just HATE that!

    And I WILL continue to talk about the world and all of it’s ways, and my voice WILL be heard!

    • ‘And I WILL continue to talk about the world and all of it’s ways, and my voice WILL be heard!’

      If you want to make your voice heard, get a megaphone and go to the Melbourne CBD. 🙂

  33. “There has been a microscopic minority of Chinese in Australia for well over a century (I have some in my family)”

    “I have an Italian uncle, been here 50 years, and he’s quite candid about it”

    Scott – your family, by your own admission I might add, is a representation of multiculturalism within Australia. Whether we like it or not, our families are an embodiment of who we are, and yours is multicultural (which is a beautiful thing I might add – I commend your ancestors for being so forward thinking and able to marry outside their “race” and culture).

    You Scott, (with your Chinese and Italian family members and partialness for hot Asian booty), are the poster child of multiculturalism. And for that I give you props and respect x 3. Carry that tag well Scottie my boy, you have a great responsibility … like Superman.

    In seriousness though, you harp on good and proper about how a white person supporting multiculturalism is tantamount to them hating themselves. (I refute this point and say this is due to a tolerant, open-mind that is not insecure about his/her place in society – but for the purposes of this post that’s neither here nor there). I put to you that as the new poster child for multiculturalism, your lack of support for multiculturalism is tantamount to you hating yourself and your own family – and for that I feel very sorry for you as you are a very conflicted human being.

    Go seek some help Scottie. Try and stay off the internet for a while and go get some fresh air and a new perspective on life. Try and cope with your role as poster child for this site and for the ATB cause, it’ll be worth it. I can hear the cheers and adulations for you now — “hooray for Scott the reformed white supremacist!” they’ll all proclaim.

    Your Italian uncle and Chinese cousins will never be prouder of you.

  34. Lol @ the “we didn’t come on boats, we came on ships”. I mean come on, I would think they’d both fall into the sea-faring vessel category. So you obviously came on a boat, boat person.

  35. You damn well know the difference Freddy!

    No, Ronnie, certain members of my family are NOT representative of any “multi-culturalism” in Australia! There were NO other cultures involved in the foundation and construction of Australia. What they are representative of is tiny immigrant ethnic minorities having a small place within our culture.

    In regards you piss weak advice for me to seek some kind of help (as people are wrong and need help when they strive to protect their people and country!), shove it right up your back passage.
    One cannot be “reformed” from having dignity!

    Oh, and my Italian uncle and Chinese/part-Chinese relatives HATE the massive waves of migrants flooding in here now!

    That’s fuckin’ BULLSHIT Rudolf!
    MANY countries take NO immigrants, they have self-preserving laws that stipulate such.
    Taiwan very recently instituted more laws to prevent any foreigners going to live there.
    MANY countries will NEVER take migrants or refugees! They have entirely nationalistic and racial laws to protect their own. As is ANY country’s right!
    Perhaps you deluded multicult saps should acquaint yourselves with what’s really going on the world!

    The internet’s a great technological innovation as well, get’s my voice out far and wide!

  36. What, you don’t believe in it?
    You DON’T believe it?
    That’s what they (whatever title you wish to give them) would want!!!

    Do you REALLY think that White people would up and throw away their advanced civilisation on a whim? You think that Whites would just spontaneously up and commit racial suicide?

    You think there’s no plan or conspiracy behind all that’s going on in the world, and particularly the West, now?
    A little innocent naivety is good…but for someone to be as naive as you about such things is dangerous.
    Or is it more wilful ignorance?

    Wake up! There are very sinister forces engineering what is going on around the world, they seek to profit further from it, and gain ever more control from it.

    Don’t make the mistake of thinking that things around the world and in society “just happen”, by accident, and are all unrelated. There ARE machinations and clutching talons behind all this.

    Your doubt and disbelief, you’re mocking laughter at those who call out about and against this threat, is JUST what ‘they’ like to see! It serves their purpose well!

  37. Scott, I think I just had a “light bulb over the head” moment reading your last post. I think through the repetitive nature of your comments here you’ve effectively delivered across to me what you’re saying — I’m starting to HEAR you buddy. Look at that, I’m even starting to TYPE like you.

    Like you, I do want your voice to be heard far and wide, as you say – but you’re going to need to sway some of those fence sitters if we’re going to effect real change. You’ll probably need to do said swaying, with say, I don’t know … facts, that’ll help to convince those discerning Australians that you’re the voice of truth, as opposed to just another insecure racist asshole. For starters, start by answering some of the questions that these left wing liberalists, have posed to you and by justifying some of your comments. Comments such as:

    “Do you REALLY think that a majority of Australians would be keen on losing their country?”
    –> The majority of the people on this site are real Australians by your definition and however do not share your views. Why don’t you get the masses of real blokes and sheilas to jump onto this site to reaffirm your point, or better yet, give those liberalists some references to surveys supporting this! You are the voice Scott, try and understand it mate! Make a noise and make it clear!

    “that Australians have a right to the integrity of their identity…”
    –> Define “Australian” identity?

    “that Australians have EVERY right to close their borders to foreign immigration/invasion … They are refuting the birth-right of Australians to be themselves, to protect themselves, and to stave off their social and racial destruction!”
    –> What dangers do these foreign invaders pose by being here — besides contributing to the welfare of the country by paying taxes and supporting the ageing Aussie population? Personally, I think the non-whites have been responsible for this whole sub-culture of fake tanning. I mean come on! We’re losing OUR whiteness!!

    “I will NOT see Australia, and the Australian’s standard of living, reduced to the level of being seen as acceptable”
    –> Scottie – produce some evidence showing Australia’s decline over the past 20 years!! I know you have it tiger! I mean “idiots” like The Reserve Bank’s deputy governor state will say things about how “The period since 1991 is the longest period of growth that Australia has recorded for at least the past century”, but we know better don’t we Scottie?! http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/20/2988801.htm

    LIES LIES LIES!!

    GO SCOTTIE! I believe in YOU.

  38. You think Australia actually hasn’t declined over the last twenty years?
    COME ON!?

    There has been a gradual downward spiral in this country, growing ever more rapid, over the last twenty years.

    You’re trying to deny that?

    You think bankers aren’t going to go on about ‘growth’? What the fuck “growth”? Growth in some people’s profits, that’s what.
    As I posed earlier, in regards ‘multi-culturalism’ being imposed upon Australians…Cui Bono?
    I would NEVER trust a bankers views on what’s best for a country!!!

    Invaders/immigrants pose a threat just by BEING here! You think these people won’t have children? You don’t see the simple biological mathematics? Because it’s going on around you right now! A few come, a few more, the babies start getting born, and then it’s just a hop, a step, and a jump to us being swamped, to us being gone.

    How fucken’ ironic that you go on about fake-tanning (we never used to have to fake tan in Australia, go out for one week at the beginning of summer and you’re nice and tan…that’s tragically gone now) when so many Asians, Indians and other are tripping over themselves and each to whiten their skin, alter their eyes, and lighten their eyes!

    What worthwhile ‘references’ do any of these leftists and liberals cite in defence of their horse-crap?
    None, ‘cos there can be none.

    Yes indeed, some actual Australians ARE traitors within or midst, a worse version of the fifth column, fools so spoiled by their good life here, brats really, who take from and bite the hand that feeds. Arseholes who may not even waken from their zombie-like stupor even if it gets too late.
    Just because they’re willing to sell out, or giver away, their country doesn’t make them right.

    All in all though, you’ve just delivered some more spiteful, glib, shit.
    If I repeat myself at all, it’s because I have to.

  39. Evidence, links, can you provide any to back your claims?

    You can’t just say “I speak the truth” or “look at history” you need to provide peer reviewed public facts to back up what you say. Or I could put it this way…..

    Isn’t your point to convince people that you are right?

    Don’t you think it’s wise to speed up this process?

    Isn’t it in your best interest to provide this evidence?

    If you have this evidence and are not sharing it, does that mean you are working against the best interests of your country?

    I would think the angle you’re taking at the moment is not really converting many to your cause. Maybe if you tried providing proven facts with evidence, you could sway opinion more easily.

  40. Some of your ‘multicultural’ friends that you’ve rashly invited into this country have done their dastardly work last night, and a good young Australian police officer has been shot, and is now dead.
    His blood is as much on all of your hands.
    You should be ashamed of yourselves.
    Police officers here are now expected to take care of and deal with things that your vain fantasies bring on us, but that you’ll all blissfully ignore and feel you’ll comfortably never have to see.
    You should really think about things…

    • That’s incredibly presumtuous of you Scott. You can never judge an entire ethnic group based on the actions of a few. By your logic I could claim that all white Australians bash and murder Indian students in Melbourne’s CBD. This of course is preposterous, as are your own generalisations.

      And NO, I am not condoning the murder of our valued law enforcers. I believe such actions to be despicable, just as all of this blog’s visitors do. I will not give you the pleasure of putting your abhorrent spin on my statements.

  41. Yes, you can.
    YOU all do, in the worst way.

    Much of the crimes committed by members of certain ethnic groups here ARE endemic OF their cultures! It’s far more than a few doing these things. LOOK at their own countries…that’s what you’re inviting in here.

    Wake up!

    99% of the bashings of Indian students (who shouldn’t be here anyway!) committed in Melbourne were done so by your new Samoan, Maori, Lebanese, Turkish, Vietnamese and Filipino friends as well!

    If many of a group are violent, if a group is violent, then we have every right to lessen our risks.
    That’s key to life.

    It’s staggering how people such as yourself continually excuse things.
    As long as anyone is pro-immigration, pro-multi-culturalism, they are by default responsible for ALL that entails!

    • Or perhaps I’m not shallow enough to make assumptions about people I don’t know? Perhaps I prefer to judge people on their individual merits rather than on the reprehensible actions of others that they have some kind of group affiliation with?

  42. Answer this Scott: Where did you get the “99% of the bashings of Indian students (who shouldn’t be here anyway!) committed in Melbourne were done so by your new Samoan, Maori, Lebanese, Turkish, Vietnamese and Filipino friends as well!” statistics from? You made them up didn’t you? Smooth.

    You seem to be forgetting that the people who you do deem worthy to be Australian commit many, many crimes also. It’s not just foreigners. That is an extremely judgemental and biased opinion you made there. But I suppose you don’t care because the fact is, ooh, people of ethnicities other than Anglo’s commit crimes.

    • He still hasn’t shown me his source of information, so I’ve long since established that he likes to run away from the things he can’t deal with.

      It is more likely though that he doesn’t have an academic source for his information and is rather pulling it out of his arse. Or perhaps he is working with second-hand arse-pullings.

    • Scott has decided to no longer engage with me, instead implying that I (and his other opposition here) are somehow to blame because a middle eastern man shot a police officer, and that all people that have migrated here from the middle east are police shooters.

      Made up statistic for the day: 84% of Scott’s family were related to each other prior to getting married/procreating.

  43. Statistics are only a superficial way of looking at social phenomena in any case. You need to couple them with qualitative findings to really gain the full picture on an issue. I know these things as a Sociologist of course.

  44. We can’t argue with Scott as he has already kindly pointed out in another post, he already knows ‘ALL’.

    Ohh, he must be God

    *bows and worships*

  45. Cut the personal insults and aspersions, “anti-bogan”. I’ve been engaging with you all along.

    Yet another awful day today, of riding on Melbourne buses and trains, now CRAMMED beyond full, of Asians, Indians, Arabs, Africans, jammed in, like a third world hellhole!
    Stations, shops, streets, TEEMING with foreigners!

    You’d BETTER start telling me how any of this is fucking well supposed to be “benefitting” Australians!

    • hahaha oh wow, didn’t know you were a melbournian. how do you manage to deal with non-white people on a day-to-day basis without having a rage induced heart attack?

      p.s. i think you love the exclamation mark a little bit too much.

    • The only point you’ve been making all along is that public transport is overcrowded. Unemployment is steadily falling and our economy is among the best performing in the world.

      If you’ve got a problem with public transport, you’ve got a number of options:

      * Ride the trams, buses and trains a little earlier/later to avoid peak crowds;
      * Take advantage of Melbourne’s extremely cheap bicycle hire bays;
      * Buy a car;
      * Carpool;
      * Walk if possible;
      * Find a job/study at a campus at one of the outer suburbs of Melbourne where transport is naturally less crowded.

  46. LEAVE SCOTT ALONE!!!

    I’ve been reading his posts now for a long time and he has truly shown me the light!

    You all pick on him so mercilessly when he stands up for what is truly important!!!

    LIKE USING CAPITAL LETTERS FOR NO APPARENT REASON!!!

    Like the capacity to NEVER SUPPLY ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER TO SUBSTATIATE ANY CLAIM.

    Like understanding that SUBJECTIVE, OBJECTIVE and fuckit even ABJECTIVE and EJECTIVE and are all interchangeable and MEAN THE SAME THING!

    […bit like “banana” actually means exactly the same as “pulmonary oedema”]

    Let’s take the truisms he most recently expounded:

    “Cut the personal insults and aspersions, “anti-bogan”. I’ve been engaging with you all along.”

    HE HAS!!! Just because it was in a subtle, ambiguous, subliminal, round-about non-descript kind-of-a-way, THAT’S NOT HIS FAULT!!!

    EVERY TRUE AUSTRALIAN CAN SEE IT’S NOT HIS FAULT!

    Can you not SEE from all the previous POSTS that he has clearly engaged you at ALL times – even as you were in the process of writing it, HE ENGAGED you. He is the MOST engaged man I KNOW!

    ALL AUSTRALIANS – YES, ALL 153.6% of them know how SERIOUSLY engaged Scott IS!

    “Yet another awful day today, of riding on Melbourne buses and trains, now CRAMMED beyond full, of Asians, Indians, Arabs, Africans, jammed in, like a third world hellhole!
    Stations, shops, streets, TEEMING with foreigners!”

    HELL YEAH!!!

    I live in MELBOURNE and I was catching a train AND A BUS at the VERY same time (THE BUS WAS ON THE TRAIN!) from Wynyard to Fremantle via Ipswich and it was like the fucking United Nations on board EXCEPT it was the DISUNITED Nations. Everyone was trying to KILL everyone else while I sat there trying to read my People magazine.

    BEYOND FULL! THIRD WORLD HELLHOLE! TEEMING!

    AUSTRALIANS ALL could NOT REJOICE and had to GET OFF the bus in MELBOURNE before Charles Taylor’s army of CHILDREN came onboard and MADE us DIG for BLOOD diamonds.

    THIS HAPPENING NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN AUSTRALIA!!!

    “You’d BETTER start telling me how any of this is fucking well supposed to be “benefitting” Australians!”

    Yeah – you’d BETTER!!!!

    Scott and I know that SINISTER FORCES are creating ALL the MYTHS that you bleeding-heart pinko commos keep referring to!

    The ABC?!?!?!?

    The Australian Bureau of Statistics?!?!?!?

    Are they even sources at all?

    I’ve NEVER heard of them and yet you liberal pathetic whingers keep referring to them!

    We know – ALL REAL AUSTRALIANS – truly know that any website that ends with “.gov.au” is a ZIONIST WORLD PLOT site.

    You want MORE EVIDENCE from our side of the argument – well here it is – THIS WILL SHUT YOU UP ONCE AND FOR ALL!!

    http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

    • …Bugger – sorry Scott – I’ve actually re-read my post and I’ve got a splitting headache after reading it – I’m not 387% sure why – but I’m pretty certain it’s because I may have not used enough CAPITAL letters…

      P.S. Did you notice Antibogan didn’t pick up on the significance of “girt” when quoting the national anthem – a word that all Australians know is defined in the Macquarie English Dictionary as “subjected to a foreign invasion via Christmas Island on small wooden boats irregularly” – not surprised that he deliberately missed that!

  47. I am close to a rage-induced something-or-other!
    Why is it that multicultists illustrate what’s wrong with what’s going on, knowing that it’s angering people, but still gloat over it? As though they’re in the right about it?

    You seem well aware of the situation in Melbourne now, how bad it is, yet you think that the Australians still living in Melbourne somehow shouldn’t be utterly enraged at what’s been done to their city?

    You, ‘Terror Australis’, are a top notch fuck-wit. You think that if Australia just gets completely lost, and that Australians are sent the way of the dodo, that those who take over will put up little busts of the traitors (such as yourself) who took it upon themselves to make it a little easier for them to do so?
    NO!
    They won’t ever give you a second thought.

    I use capitals to emphasise either important things, or to convey a heavier sense of passion, sometimes both at the same time.

    Again, go and read the lyrics of OUR national anthem, for then you’ll realise that your current agenda is entirely against us, our country, our society, our spirit.

    And, what the fuck are you snidely lol’ing at, ‘widedog’?!

    • I hear you Scott!

      I am not just close to – I am literally a SOMETHING-OR-OTHER top-notch fuckwit!

      TOP-NOTCH!!!

      FUCKWITT!!!

      …Yes I am…

      And why is it that multicunniligulists illustrate what’s wrong with what’s going on, knowing that it’s angering people (and by “people” this means you and I, Scott – I’ve read the posts on this site and we’re the only ones who are ANGRY!), but still GOAT over it?!?!?! As though they are the far-right over it?!?!?

      (Scott why are we talking about goats?)

      I am WELL AWARE of the situation in MELANONABOURNE now, how BAD it is, because you Scott are my FONT OF ALL WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE!

      …AND I’M ENRAGED!!!!

      I come from a small community of Picts who, driven into the Scottish highlands by invading and marauding Saxons (fuck off Krauts!) and then Normans (fuck off Frogs!) stumbled across a small village and have lived there in an insular and slightly inbred community ever since.

      Anyway – two years ago when my village of Brigadoon appeared again (it disappears for 100 years or so) – since I had recently been elected ‘Top-notch Fhuckwittt’ (an old Pict expression meaning: “he who can manipulate individual words to create NEW and INTERESTING meanings”) – the villages gathered around and told me I was to come here – to MELANDKOSHYBOURNE and learn the ways of the world from YOU SCOTT – a sage and wiseman whose reputation preceeds you.

      AND YOU HAVE NOT FAILED ME GRAND MASTER!!!

      You have shown your amazing powers of perception because:

      1) without asking any questions you were able to ascertain that I did indeed hold the position of ‘Top-notch Fhuckwittt’ of the village – AMAZING!!!

      2. You know what I think – even before I think it! ASTOUNDING!!!

      3. You are aware of DODO!!! A Nigerian dish involving fried plantain bananas that, like Australia (the continent) is all too quickly gone from people’s plates – the analogy is not lost on me Scott – it isn’t…

      4. I like busts! Hells yeah – I am such a boob man it’s not funny – AND YOU PICKED THAT UP SIMPLY BY READING BETWEEN MY LINES!!! As an aside – only you are allowed to do that Scott – any one else tries to read between my lines and they’s gettin bitch-slapped (an ancient Pict mechanism for redressing a point, theme or argument; a point of conjecture).

      But on one thing oh-great-master you are a little off track.

      I don’t make things easier – I fight for the truth – WITH CAPITALS!!!!

      …without a second thought!….

      I also use capitals to EMPHASISE either important things, or WORDS I like the sound of, such as MOIST, PHLEGHM and ORANGUNTANG. (did you know that “orangutang” is a derivation of the Malay/Indonesian words “orang” and “hutan” meaning literally “man”and “forest” or “man of the forest”? – did you? – WELL DID YOU????)

      By the way Scott – be careful – these pinkos don’t understand us and heavily misinterpret everything! Take for example your following sentence:

      “I use capitals to emphasise either important things, or to convey a heavier sense of passion, sometimes both at the same time.”

      Now whilst I understand you – THEY on the other hand would read this as:

      “Secretly I want to be a gushing teenage female Toorak princess who reads to many Twilight novels and Stephanie Meyer books”

      BUT NOT I – First dan Black belt of the art of Top-notch Fhuckwitttedness!!!

      On your advice I have ahead and read THE lyrics of our national anthem and I have realised that THEIR current agenda is completely contradictory to it!!!!

      “Golden soil” – urine reference – we pissed on it – territory is marked – it’s OURS!!!

      “Toil” – rhymes with soil -This refers to MARY MAGDALENE who was the “soil” of Jesus and was had to “toil” to push out the “boundless plains” or SON OF CHRIST the almighty!

      “For those who’ve come across the seas, we’ve boundless plains to share”

      – NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY!!! This actually refers to the ILLUMINATI and their battles to recover the NATIONAL TREASURE from the MASONS and the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. The treasure is in fact Captain Arthur Philip’s collection of fine stamps from the Northumberland region that he brought out to Port Jackson with him.

      AND WIDEDOG – STOP SNIDELY LOL’ING – IT’S MAKING ME SEA-SICK!!!!

  48. At the hospital where I work, 90% of the doctors are overseas trained, and come from a very diverse array of nations. (This is not exaggeration. Do some research and find out how many of the doctors supporting rural and regional Australia are overseas trained).

    Without their efforts, the hospital, which serves a predominantly white community, would not be able to function.

    Why such a high percentage of immigrant doctors? Because the Australian doctors do not want to come here. They would rather stay in the capital cities, and no matter how many more medical graduates the Australian universities churn out, this won’t change any time soon.

    Now according to Scott’s logic, most of the doctors at this hospital don’t have the right to be in the country. Because they are apparently threatening our ‘way of life’. So the community would be much better off without them.

    In this predominantly white, Australian community, where people are free to enjoy their ‘way of life’, the most common presentations to the hospital are a result of lifestyle choices. Rates of obesity are something shocking. Type II diabetes is rampant, as are smoking related diseases and injuries sustained as a result of drunken mishaps. Drug induced psychosis, including attempted suicide, is not uncommon. Pregnant mothers poison their unborn children with tobacco, alcohol and marijuana. Ischaemic Heart Disease… oh, don’t get me started.

    But of course, if all the immigrants left and this were Perfect White Australia, such things wouldn’t happen. Because then there would be no-one around to threaten our ‘way of life’.

  49. lol i’m not pointing out any problem with melbourne. no problems here, just the ones in your head. and i throw lol’s around all the time, not trying to be snide.

  50. So it’s okay for Scott to calll us fuck-wits, illuminatists, racists, white people haters, self haters – all of which are a load of rubbish. And then asks us to stop with the personal insults. Hypocritical much? Learn to take what you dish out in the first place.

  51. You are White haters and ipso facto self haters, you are (in a most ironic fashion) racists, you are (perhaps unwittingly) dancing at the end of Illuminati puppet strings…all of that does, indeed, make you fuckwits.
    Are you saying you were fuckwits before you embarked on all of that?

    You, liberals, make DIRECT personal insults as a matter of course, by habit, routinely, it’s your modus operandi.
    Failing to have any sound argument, grounding, or credibility, you always rush straight for the personal insults.

    Hypocritical? Thy other name is liberalism!

    You dish the shit out first. You all decide to take part in the whoring out of Australia ane the threatening of the Australian’s future…you then decide to call any Australian that raises a voice of concern about that a “bigot”, “xenophobe”, or “racist”, or any other piss-weak epithet you can come up with.
    This country was perfectly good, you’ve all taken it upon yourselves to fuck it up…so YOU dished it out, and deserve anything you get in retribution.

  52. There are a lot of websites around where you can go and voice your concerns and meet people who agree with you, however this particular website clearly has nothing to do with your beliefs. No matter how much you dribble on, and on, and on, and on, and on, nothing you can say will make us agree with you. Please go away, you’re really annoying.

  53. I’ve figured you out Scott – I’m pretty sure I know who you are.

    You are scared, little man – you are the guy everyone deliberately ignores on the buses, trains or trams because you look boring yet there is something slightly weird in about you.

    You probably wear a lot of cardigans… cardigans with a slightly funny musty smell.

    You buy most of your clothes from K-Mart or Target.

    You are quite articulate when you want to be – of that there is little doubt – and yet you are probably a little terrified of people and so you can’t actually talk comfortable with anyone – anyone whatsoever.

    You’ve seen from experience that the more comfortable you get with people and the more you talk openly with them, the more uncomfortable they get and they start backing away from your weirdness. You’ve probably begun to understand that everyone except for a few extreme nut-jobs – people like you who don’t fit in – tends to find you very unnatural and so you are a social outcast.

    You’ve looked desperately for who to blame for this. In conjunction with this you’ve discovered that as a social creature – humans – all humans – need a community.

    And so you’ve got back to a rudimentary form of tribalism in order to find peace within yourself.

    You’ve then used your manic intelligence to form a fantasy around this very desperate need of yours. You’ve created myths and figures and statistics quite well initially to support your claim – you’ve just started to fail miserably when people have begun to call you to account.

    You’ve become more and more basic in your language and started to resort to insults and lashing out because that’s really all you’ve got.

    Whilst the majority of the planet is understanding the complexities of contemporary life demand a cohesive co-operative approach to life – you are running for your life in the other direction – and only due to your own inadequacies.

    You resort to tribalism and finding a scared minority of bigots because it’s the only community that accepts you and even then you are on the fringes.

    You therefore see this forum as an avenue to vent out all the frustrations you have in life.

    As said, you are actually quite intelligent but you are an abject failure.

    This must really, really get on your nerves – so you lash out – and you lash out at the easiest target you can see. Scary “otherness”!

    Your own failure in life needs a reason – you can’t see it as your own fault so you blame others – anyone else you can find.

    You probably have an inane blue-collar job that you are far too intelligent for and you are desperately bored and frustrated every day but you are also influenced by your bogan colleagues.

    You are likely to be getting some form of support either from the government or from some Christian charity.

    Your reference to the Illuminati in your previous post is a dead give-away that you are in trouble my friend.

    You are a scared, small, little child and you are hurting a lot.

    I am sorry for you my friend – I have ridiculed you previously because I saw your arguments as only being worthy of contempt but I was wrong and I apologise.

    You are so completely out of sync with the world around you that it must be terrifying on a daily basis.

    I know now that there is very little hope for you – you are a dinosaur and you are absolutely right in feeling that your time is almost up – you will be extinct very soon.

    I can only say that if there is a glimmer of reality in the back of your head – a small voice amongst the cacophony of anger that dominates your life – a litte voice that says “hey – it’s actually not that bad – I can function successfully in this environment” – and if you are prepared to give that small voice a chance – get some help my friend – get some serious help.

    There are many supports for outcasts from society like you who want to rejoin our ranks. Use them!

    One last thing Scott:

    I know what you are going to do next – you are going to say the very same thing you’ve said before:

    “Australia is dying and you liberal multicultists are all to blame for the invasion and imminent extinction of a pure noble Anglo way of life. You are part of a massive conspiracy to destroy the best culture and civilization the world has ever known”.

    Before you do – have a look inwards and answer me the following questions:

    How far off was I?
    Are you successful?
    Do you function well in society?
    Do you have any friends? Friends who genuinely like you and are not friends of political convenience because you all hate the world together?
    Do you look at yourself in the mirror every day like what you see?

    • Sadly, I think your observations of Scott are probably spot on.

      I recall from previous posts that Scott mentioned that he was a 40 something male, living at home with his mother doing part time barista-ing, part time gardening, part time etc etc (i.e. unemployed). The last real job he had was probably given to an immigrant.

  54. And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    • Australia is made up of people from almost 200 countries, creating a society with diverse social, linguistic and cultural abilities. A culturally diverse workforce has a specialised knowledge of overseas businesses, niche markets and cultural protocols. By taking advantage of migrants’ language skills, cultural awareness and business networks, Australian export companies can improve their understanding of the overseas markets and gain a competitive edge. The benefits of cultural diversity in the workplace can no longer be ignored when 12 of the top 15 Australian export markets are non-English speaking.

      The free movement of people, within and between countries, generally contributes to greater prosperity than when movement is restricted.

      Like the free movement of goods and capital, the free movement of people is not only a basic human right but also contributes to economic growth by allowing the benefits of greater trade in the labour market. This trade benefits both the new immigrant and their new nation. Immigrant nations such as America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada have benefited enormously from high levels of immigration.

      For Australia the need for immigration is becoming particularly acute as we face a labour shortage. In Western Australia the unemployment rate has fallen below 3%, with an historically high participation rate, and the number of job vacancies exceeds the number of unemployed.

      Over the last sixty years, Australia’s migration program focus has shifted. The original aim of the program was to build up the population for defence purposes. In the 1950s and 1960s, the program aimed to bring in workers to build up Australia’s manufacturing industries. By the early 1990s, the aims of the program were more diffuse, encompassing social (family reunification), humanitarian (refugee and humanitarian migration) as well as economic (skilled migration) objectives. Over the last ten years the emphasis of the program has been on skilled migration (both temporary and permanent), particularly to our regional areas.

      Today, the Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs (DIMA) allocates around 130 000 to 140 000 migration places each year—the highest level in twenty years—with a firm focus on bringing in migrants with the relevant skills to complement Australia’s labour market needs and skill shortages. In 2005-06, 97 500 places have been allocated for skilled migration.

      The skilled migration program

      Since the 1980s, the government has developed policies designed to target migrants with experience in areas where there is a skill shortfall through its general skilled migration program. In 2004­–05 record numbers of skilled migrants were granted visas, accounting for about 60 per cent of the entire migration program.

      The current skills in demand are listed in DIMA’s Skilled Occupation List (SKOL). Generally an applicant must be under 45, with an occupation listed on the SKOL, with enough points to pass the points test and with a fairly proficient level of English.

      Under the skilled or independent migrant selection system, the Migration Occupations in Demand (MODL) List identifies occupations to be allocated extra points under the points test. IT skills featured strongly in the past (they were dropped off the list in 2003), and now health professionals and tradespeople are currently in demand. The current skills points list shows occupations acceptable for permanent migration and the number of points allocated to these occupations.

      There are a variety of relevant visas that potential migrants can apply for under the skilled migration program, depending on whether you are applying for an onshore visa, an offshore visa or for a skilled visa as a New Zealand resident. There are also specific requirements to encourage successful business people to settle permanently in Australia and develop new or existing businesses.

      Skilled migration to the regions

      In order to encourage skilled migration to the regions where skill shortages are particularly acute, the government has created state and territory specific migration schemes that include the Skilled Independent Regional (Provisional) (SIR) Visa, the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme and the State and Territory Nominated Independent Scheme. In 2004–05 18 700 visas were granted under the state-specific and regional migration schemes–an increase on the 12 720 visas granted the previous financial year (DIMIA Annual Report 2004–05 Part 2, Output 1.1).

      Business migrants are encouraged to migrate to the regions and there are various visas available for such migrants. Some business migrants may apply for a Business Talent visa to obtain direct permanent residence if they have high level business attributes and are sponsored by a state or territory government agency.

      These schemes mean that it is easier for certain migrants to migrate to regional areas in Australia, and the numbers of regional skilled migrants are certainly rising, but many regional areas are still desperate for skilled workers and tradespeople, and there has been some community debate and discussion on how effective the regional migration schemes actually are.

      Temporary or permanent?

      Another change in focus to migration patterns over the last few years has been the change in emphasis from permanent settlement to temporary migration to Australia, particularly by business and skilled migrants.

      The granting of both long-term and short-term business visas in Australia has risen markedly. In 2004–05, for example, 339 424 short stay business visas were granted–a 13.58 per cent increase on the previous financial year (DIMIA Annual Report 2004–05 Part 2, Output 1.1). In 2004–05 there were also 49 855 long stay business visas granted (40 633 in the previous year), according to an answer to question in February 2006 put to the Senate’s Immigration Estimates hearing.

      According to DIMA’s fact sheet on assisting skilled and business people, the Business (short stay) visa (subclass 456) may be issued for either single entry or for multiple entry. Holders of a multiple entry visa may make any number of journeys to Australia for up to three months on each occasion. Multiple entry visas may be valid for either up to five years, or the life of the passport (to a maximum of 10 years). Applicants must apply for this visa outside Australia.

      The Temporary Business (long stay) visa (sub-class 457) allows highly skilled personnel to come to Australia to work for an approved employer for up to four years. The prospective employer must first apply to become a standard business sponsor, which will permit them to sponsor an agreed number of overseas employees over a two-year period. The position nominated to be filled by the overseas employee must meet minimum skill and salary levels.

      Many of these temporary migrants go on to settle permanently and add to Australia’s ‘brain gain’. In fact, there is a growing link between temporary migration and permanent migration, with a temporary visa often being the first step towards permanent migration. In 2004–05, for example, 39 000 permanent visas were granted to people already in Australia on visitor, student or temporary worker visas. The government is encouraging such migration with various measures, including an announcement in 2005 by the Minister, Senator Amanda Vanstone, that from 1 November 2005, ‘overseas students will be able to apply, on completion of their studies in Australia, for an Occupational Trainee Visa to undertake up to 12 months of supervised on-the-job training in their area of expertise. Employers will also be able to offer overseas students practical employment experience on an occupational trainee visa where this leads to registration in their chosen profession in Australia.’

      International comparisons

      Internationally, most developed countries are experiencing global skill shortages and many are beginning to address the issues with skilled programs or special purpose visas similar to the Australian system. Some are even modelling themselves on the Australian system as, according to international migration expert Professor John Salt, Australia has long been ‘ahead of the game’ in its skilled migration program and research into immigration policy.

      A recent report from the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs/Population Division, World Population Policies 2005, notes that the percentage of developed countries with policies designed to lower immigration fell from 60 per cent in 1996 to only 12 per cent in 2005 and that in general, migration policies in receiving countries are evolving towards greater selectiveness and favouring those who can fill the skills gaps. However, according to this report, while more than 40 per cent of developed countries aim to increase skilled migration to their countries, only 14 per cent are actively pursuing this strategy to date. The US Migration Policy Institute lists competition for skilled workers as being one of the top ten immigration issues for 2005–see the Growing Competition for Skilled Workers web page. This page outlines some of the policies currently pursued by certain developed countries, including Australia, the UK, Germany, New Zealand and Canada.

      The UK government plans to introduce a points system favouring skilled migrants similar to the Australian system that is due to be introduced in 2007. The UK’s existing Highly Skilled Migrant Program is designed to allow highly skilled people to migrate to the United Kingdom to look for work or self-employment opportunities, but there have been problems verifying skill levels and so the government is keen to more effectively target foreign workers with the skills in demand.

      New Zealand maintains both an Immediate Skill Shortage List and a Long Term Skill Shortage List and conducts a regular review of occupational shortages. As part of each review, submissions are sought from industry groups about both the nature and extent of skill shortages in their area.

      Canada has a Skilled Worker Visa with a points selection system that assesses the applicant by work experience, language ability and education. This visa allows the successful applicant to migrate as a permanent resident and to apply for jobs available to any resident skilled worker.

      The US has been accepting growing numbers of skilled temporary workers, and in November 2005, the United States Senate voted to increase numbers of skilled migrants from 65 000 to 95 000 per year. However, some argue that this is still inadequate and that there is need for a coordinated approach to attracting workers to the US, and a need for more evaluation on how effective the recruitment measures are for meeting employer needs.

      A recent report produced for DIMA, Evaluation of the General Skilled Migration Categories 2006, examines contemporary policy approaches to skilled migration in Australia compared to those in Canada, New Zealand and the UK—the major current alternative destinations for skilled migrants, along with the US. Ross Garnaut has also compared Australia’s and Canada’s skilled migration policies and outcomes (see A Comparison of Australian and Canadian Immigration Policies and Labour Market Outcomes).

      Research

      The first major review of Australia’s skilled migration program since the 1980s, the Review of the independent and skilled Australian Linked categories, was published by DIMA in 1999. The aim of this review was to evaluate the effectiveness of the points test in selecting the relevant skilled migrants able to quickly make a positive contribution to the Australian economy and labour force. The review drew heavily on data from the department’s Longitudinal Survey of Immigrants to Australia (LSIA) and led to changes in the government’s skilled migration policy.

      The follow-up, Evaluation of the General Skilled Migration Categories published in 2006, aimed to further fine-tune skill criteria without reducing the overall intake. This evaluation also drew on data from the LSIA, and has led to further refinement of selection procedures.

      The Longitudinal Survey of Immigrants to Australia is surveying migrants who arrived in Australia between September 1993 and August 1995 (LSIA 1) and migrants who arrived in Australia between September 1999 and August 2000 (LSIA 2). The survey is designed to provide the government with reliable data on issues like employment outcomes for migrants, improvements in English language proficiency and the use of settlement services. Results from the survey published to date are listed on the LSIA publications page.

      Other government research and inquiries are in progress at present to continue the government’s quest to improve immigration and settlement policies, programs and services. The Joint Standing Committee on Migration has conducted several inquiries on skilled migration over the past few years and is currently conducting an inquiry into skills recognition and licensing. Past inquiries have included a Review of skilled migration in 2004.

      In January 2006 the Australian Productivity Commission released a report, the Economic impacts of migration and population growth, that argued an expanded skilled migration program would lead to an increase in Australia’s productivity. The modelling, conducted on behalf of the Productivity Commission by Monash University’s Centre of Policy Studies, found that a 50 per cent increase on current skilled migration places would have a positive effect on living standards and on the labour force.

      Australia has a low unemployment rate compared to other nations, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. OzLife visa services states that 150,000 jobs become available in the nation every week. Australia seeks immigrants with job skills to fill holes in the labor force and contribute to the country’s economic success. Over eight in 10 immigrants with skilled independent work visas find work within six months of moving to Australia.

      http://dpl/Books/2006/ProdCommPosPaper_EcoImpactsMigPop.pdf
      http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/gsm-report/index.htm
      http://dpl/Books/2005/DIMIA_SkilledMovement.pdf
      http://dpl/Books/2006/DIMIA_TemporarySkilled.pdf
      http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rp/2003-04/04rp10.pdf
      http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2003-04/04rn56.htm
      http://dpl/Books/2005/EconomicBenefitReport.pdf
      http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/pdf/perm_mig_budget.pdf
      http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/pdf/temp_res_livingstandards.pdf
      http://dpl/Books/2006/ProdCommPosPaper_EcoImpactsMigPop.pdf
      http://dpl/Books/2004/RWI_DemandHighSkilled.pdf
      http://dpl/Books/2005/DIMIA_SkilledMovement.pdf
      http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=jrnart&Criteria=CITATION_ID:N4ZI6;
      http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=PRESSCLP&Criteria=CITATION_ID:F8LI6;
      http://www.workplace.gov.au/workplace/Publications/LabourMarketAnalysis/VacancyReports

  55. Jokes aside – Antibogan – that was epic!
    Nicely done! 🙂

    Now since Scott has left us – I’m going to reply on his behalf:

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    And, if so?
    What is your fucking point???

    It’s REAL hard to get a handle on the multicultist’s angle.

    One of you’ll claim that what’s happening isn’t happening, that the situation in Australia isn’t drastically changing, that there are no large amounts of foreigners here, that immigration isn’t a problem, that the Australian’s lives, safety, well-being, standards, and jobs are not in peril…and then the next one will come along gloating over just HOW BAD things are and rubbing it in!!!

    ……Got that right Scott?

  56. This may have been discussed already. I apologise if it has been. I checked out the Facebook ‘wall’ of Scott Pengelly (hey, I was bored)

    It’s definitely Scott from here. For example,“It’s outrageous that most of the contestants, especially in the groups section, on the Australian X-Factor…aren’t!”

    Looks like a fair chunk of his friends list are porn stars too.

    Absolutely fucking HILARIOUS.

  57. Australia is NOT “made up of people from almost 200 countries”!
    That is an INSULT to each and every Australian!
    Australia was made solely by, and up by, British people!
    We descendents of them ARE the Australians!

    In very recent times various peoples of some 200 nations have been artificially transplanted here, by those would ruthlessly dismantle, divide, destroy, and control Australia.
    People of some 200 countries have been brought here recently AGAINST the wishes of the Australian people, and entirely to our detriment!

    Trying to dazzle with statistics and claims in relation to Australia and other countries is pointless!
    White countries, and ONLY White countries, are earmarked for, and are suffering, immigration and enforced multi-culturalisation.

    Trying to raise any contrived statistics is meaningless. The FACT IS that Australia is suffering an invasion via immigration, and that Australian cities ARE BEING FLOODED BY FOREIGNERS!
    That is the point of you God-damned “multi-culturalism”! To transplant masses of foreign nationalities, ethnicites, and races into White/Western nations.
    You cannot beat around the bush and try and deny the OBVIOUS affects of this!

    No, Australia is NOT “made up of” people from 200 countries! People of some 200 countries have COME here…and we do NO want or need them, in anything higher than token numbers.
    Australia is made up of people of ONE land, Great Britain.
    Australia IS one country!

    • “Australia is NOT “made up of people from almost 200 countries”!
      That is an INSULT to each and every Australian!
      Australia was made solely by, and up by, British people!”

      Exactly Scott. Was. No longer though. Face it.

      “We descendents of them ARE the Australians!”

      An opinion. Not supported by the wider population, Australian law or constitution.

      “In very recent times various peoples of some 200 nations have been artificially transplanted here, by those would ruthlessly dismantle, divide, destroy, and control Australia.
      People of some 200 countries have been brought here recently AGAINST the wishes of the Australian people, and entirely to our detriment!”

      ‘…ruthlessly dismantle, divide, destroy, and control Australia…’ Immigration has been happening for a long time now. Which facets of Australia’s society have been dismantled, divided, destroyed or controlled by anything other than British democratic values? As for people coming here against the wishes of the Australian people: you do not speak for all Australians. Once again, I bring your attention to the fact that there are political parties in Australia that stand for complete halts to immigration. These parties have not ever received more than 0.1% of the popular vote. If the wishes of the wider Australian society were to stop immigration, don’t you think that these policies would be supported?

      Australia is made up of PEOPLE with origins from over 200 countries Scott. Are you denying that?

  58. What are these “facts” or unanswered questions that some of you keep going on about, as to my not confronting them???
    ARE any of you denying that Australia is being flooded by masses of foeigners?
    If so, you are LIARS!
    We SEE this all around us now! It is the POINT of accursed “multiculturalism”!
    We hear the dire threats, warnings, predictions, that Australians shall soon be made a minority in our own country…as Whites are being told in most Western countries…and THEN you’ll try and deny this as it is happening?

    Australia IS being flooded by massive numbers of foreign races! This IS a ruthless move towards genocide, and national destruction, division, and control…for profit’s sake.
    Australia IS being flooded by foreigners, you CANNOT both brag of and deny this!

    We Australians have EVERY right and duty to oppose this!

    • “What are these “facts” or unanswered questions that some of you keep going on about, as to my not confronting them???”

      People in this forum are increasingly finding your rants frustrating as you never offer anything other than your opinion.

      “ARE any of you denying that Australia is being flooded by masses of foeigners?”

      No, not at all. In fact, at various times, several users have commented that Australia is very multicultural – responding to your horseshit about Australia being made up of over 98% of white people less than 10 years ago. In 2010, one in four Australian citizens were born overseas, and one in four Australian citizens have family that were born overseas.

      “We hear the dire threats, warnings, predictions, that Australians shall soon be made a minority in our own country…as Whites are being told in most Western countries…and THEN you’ll try and deny this as it is happening?”

      You refer to ‘dire threats, warnings, predictions…’. Are you willing to share some references at this point? You will be unable to find references that suggest that such an outcome is ‘threatening’. As for your ‘Australians’ will become a minority in their own country, it’s so important that you realise that your definition of what it means to be Australian is extremely different to the definition supported by the wider population, Australian governing bodies and Australian law. This is why your rants are so subjective. You believe an Australian is only a white person purely descended from a British person, with no foreign blood in them. That is an extremely shallow opinion of what it means to be Australian. And the fact that you trumpet superiority for such ‘pure’ Australians suggests that you are not aware of white pure British (Australian) people murdering, raping, stealing etc. Those kind of people are not welcome in this country – regardless of what colour their skin is.

  59. I watched ‘Buddha Collapsed Out Of Shame’ again last night. The second time it’s been aired since I first saw it less than three weeks ago.
    The most terribly harrowing, tragic, frustrating, beautiful, stressful, and deeply saddening film that I have ever seen!
    The waste and devestation of humanity and culture.
    My feelings go out to those people.
    These places have to be fixed.

    That situation, is NOT something I wish to see repeated again on my people and society here!!!

  60. What are these facts you ask?

    Where do you get your numbers from? Source please.

    Where is your proof of inherent violence in other nationalities (that cannot be pointed out in your own)? Source please.

    How is Australia becoming a minority? proof please, not just I SEE it!!!

    Where is the illuminati based? Source please.

    What influential positions do these illuminati hold? Source please.

    Now these are just 5 of the questions you have not ever answered with facts or proof.

    If you can actually answer these, and provide some evidence, I may actually start to sway my opinion. (Because if you didn’t know, that’s how you sway opinion. You provide facts and proof that support your point).

  61. Are YOU denying any of those things?

    Are YOU denying that there has been a MASSIVE, and VERY OBVIOUS, influx of foreigners into Melbourne and Sydney in recent times?

    Are YOU denying that at most times, in most places, every day now in Melbourne, Whites/Australians are either a tiny minority, or else non-existent, within CROWDS of foreign races and nationalities?

    Are YOU denying that mass immigration and so-called ‘multiculturalism’ is ONLY inflicted upon White/Western nations?

    Are YOU denying that the ultimate plan of ‘mult-culturalism’ is the marginalisation and eventual elimination of White people in their own countries?

    Are YOU claiming that this move towards subjugation, immolation, and eventual genocide is “voluntary” on the part of White people and White nations?

    Are YOU claiming that there ISN’T a grand scheme, orchestrated by a certain echelon, that is actually behind this?

    As with other White/Western nations, the massive and ceaseless influx of foreign races can ONLY reduce the people of that country to a minority, or worse…are YOU denying that process?

    This has happened before, tragically. This is happening again. There IS a sinister force behind this! This has not totally succeeded yet. We Whites STILL have the opportunity to defend our people, countries, and civilisation, and to safeguard our future generations!

    You BOAST of the problems caused of ‘multi-culturalism’ Freddy! You gloat over how much it hurts, upsets, angers and harms White people and White society…you also then attempt to deny all of these problems.
    The sinister origins of what motivates traitors such as yourself is obvious.
    You CANNOT lie now about what you would as readily very callously celebrate!

    As others do theirs.
    We Whites, we Westerners, we Australians, have EVERY right to protect our people and society!

  62. Try answering the questions and backing them with proof. You can’t just continue to dodge them and expect to have any credibility.

    So go on, give it another go.

  63. It’s frankly astonishing, that the people who push to have their country “diversified”, then try and duck for cover when all the problems inherent in that ruthless process become apparent.
    Do you think that it WOULDN’T be obvious when Australia starts to be turned from a strong, successful, good, civilised, racially homogenous, culturally coherent White society, into a fucked up, crowded, incoherent, fractured, divided, violent, mult-ethnic, multi-racial mess???

  64. Scott you asked for these questions remember?…..
    “What are these “facts” or unanswered questions that some of you keep going on about, as to my not confronting them???”

    You are still not confronting them.

    Try again.

  65. The facts are evident!
    ONLY White nations are subjected to ‘multi-culturalism’.
    British, French, Dutch, Swedish, Canadian, Australian, and other, people are being threatened with being made a minority, very rapidly, in their own countries.
    Then, possibly even worse.
    Continual mass immigration into White countries, and spiralling birth-rates amongst the various immigrant communities within each host country, IS leading directly to a national, social, and racial CATASTROPHE!

    That the liberals that foster this would be up in arms over if it were to befall a non-White country and people.

    The facts are evident and readily accessible regarding what is going on.
    How is it that you think the social, cultural, and racial disaster being inflicted upon the West, and upon White societies, that you rally for under the guise of “diversity”, WOULDN’T be noticed???

    It’s not over yet, we still have the chance to stop, and reverse this.

  66. The facts must not be evident or you would not feel the need to rant so often.

    Again, you are just saying “this is how it is”, this is not providing facts or evidence.

    Have another try.

  67. Speaking Freddy, not ranting.
    I’m not some socialist mug at the latest fashionable rally shrieking at and haranguing people.

    This is going on. With each day and every batch of newly arriving immigrants, with every batch of children born to immigrant communities here, with ever instance and manner of this plan being inflicted, it’s happening.

    This is an ongoing threat, and therefore needs to be addressed, discussed, opposed, and spoken against, continually…until it is thwarted.

    This is how it is? That’s ALL you multicultists go on about! Forget our past, identity, heritage, future, and integrity…because a whole lot of foreigners have been bought here and “that’s how it is now”!
    How it is now, is not how it should be, and can ONLY worsen if left to fester!

    We’ve got to be strident against this.

    • “This is going on. With each day and every batch of newly arriving immigrants, with every batch of children born to immigrant communities here, with ever instance and manner of this plan being inflicted, it’s happening.”

      This is why people are complaining about you repeating yourself. Nobody has denied that it is happening. You are upset about it, and you are in the minority. As mentioned multiple times now, one in every two Australian citizens was born overseas, and one in every four have relatives that were born overseas.

      “This is an ongoing threat, and therefore needs to be addressed, discussed, opposed, and spoken against, continually…until it is thwarted.”

      You’ve been provided with evidence suggesting that the benefits of multiculturalism and immigration far outweigh the negatives. And to this point you’ve not managed to provide alternative references.

      “This is how it is? That’s ALL you multicultists go on about! Forget our past, identity, heritage, future, and integrity…because a whole lot of foreigners have been bought here and “that’s how it is now”!”

      Immigration has been going on for ages now, yet the education system still maintains that identity, heritage, past and future are all important subjects. People going for citizenship in our country need to pass a citizenship test, while those born here don’t have to. You have still yet to describe how multiculturalism has stripped Australia of it’s British heritage other than the fact that there are less white people living here (percentage-wise) than there used to be.

  68. Hi Scott – let me help you here. Please learn the difference between the following two words:

    FACT

    Something known to be true: something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened.

    Something based on evidence: something that is based on or concerned with the evidence presented.

    OPINION

    a personal view: the view somebody takes about an issue, especially when it is based solely on personal judgment. To be open to dispute or debate.

    Good luck – I know how challenging such difficult (or shall we call it diffi-“cult” for your benefit?) philosophical concepts are for you…

  69. Dios mio ! This thing’s gone off. Why does this guy come here and take on a bunch of people who are not going to agree with him? This guy’s views are so extreme and narrow – not even simple bogans would know what the fuck he’s on about. Sure some (no, many) Australians are racist. But this guy’s way off the scale. He’s not just anti-immigration, he’s an old-fashioned white supremacist who hates Jews as well as Asians.

    I mean, a good many racists who want to curb immigration have Muslims and Asians in their sights (nothing new there). But on the question of global politics, they now tend to support Israel. Witness the change in the religious right across world. Except this guy has even suggested that perhaps Hitler was correct. And if I call Scott a National Socialist he doesn’t deny it ! And that’s because Scott is not a right-winger but indeed a melding of both left and right – a national socialist who respects Nazisim. He has posted a comment here questioning the validity or extent of the Holocaust.

    All this means the guy’s got credibility whatsover.

    There’s so much garbage in his arguments, proof of the man’s an out and out white supremacist (again, that is NOT a simple Aussie-style ignorant racism) is easy to find. Like here for example

    “There are numerous schools around Melbourne’s suburbs now in which there are few, if any, Australian students.
    Go and wait at the Sunshine bus terminus any afternoon of the week, and see bus after bus pull in, and an explosion of screaming Asian, Indian, Islander, and African children pour out.
    Notice, terribly, that not one Australian child gets off.”

    How does he know what their citizenship status is? How does he know if they’re indeed Aussies? He equates the colour of one’s skin, the shape of their eyes and face with being ‘Australian’. An ‘Australian’, according to Scott, is a white person of British decent. It seems, according to Scott, you can’t be Australian if you don’t fit the ‘racial’ mold he’s set out.

    This is guy what I call Chief Wanker.

    • He must be totally conflicted when Indigenous Aussie kids get off the bus. Then again I think he is so confused already by the raging storms going on in his cortex that one more credibility challenge will not make a difference.

  70. May be we should introduce ‘Scott’ to “Today tonight”, together they could cook up some fear mongering xenophobic story and who knows? may be JUST MAY BE, ‘Scott’ will get enough money to move out & pay for his own Internet connection.

    Matthew White & ‘Scott’ will make a good team. Also ‘Scott’ will like him because even his name is “White.”

  71. Check out this idiots facebook page now, he’s finally letting his colours show to people he knows, and most don’t like it. He continues to argue with them though, who would’ve guessed? 🙂

  72. Scott,
    So are you still a virgin?
    You’ll have to be, because you’re not married & your god does not approve of sex before marriage…
    🙂

      • .. yeah well, Have you not seen his Facebook profile pic from sometime back?
        I wanna see what he has to say though, I’m sure the Immigrants took the women that otherwise would have slept with him. 🙂 LMAO!

  73. Stop besmirching my good name with your inane bullshit, Scott. I’m quite capable of besmirching my own good name without your help.

  74. I really can’t read this entire thread now, as I have work to do. I did, however, read enough to realise that Scott is a xenophobic blow-hard racist white-supremacist. He seems dangerously unbalanced, and needs to see a shrink or get some anger-management (or both).
    Later in the week, I shall go through the whole thing. I need a good laugh.
    Scott, you are the very worst aspect of Australia. I would rather live next to a refugee than a redneck like you.

    • “I would rather live next to a refugee than a redneck like you” What is wrong with living next to a refugee? You are as bad as scott.

      • It’s all about context, which is difficult to express here online. I have absolutely nothing against refugees at all. If that’s how you choose to take it, it’s not my problem.

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